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February 09, 2015, 04:27:48 PM
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Give it time and this will be the result more or less. Brain-dead U.S. foreign policy will continue hastening the process no doubt.

Transnistria must be united with their Russian siblings  Grin


De facto they're already united. Just one example, Transnistrian universities are getting their orders from russian Ministry of Education and Science. The same is correct for many of other significant structures, there are a lot of mutual treaties between Transnistria and federal subjects of Russia.
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February 09, 2015, 04:41:14 PM
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This explains a lot


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February 09, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
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Obama & Merkel 'Agree': No Prospect Of "Military Solution" In Ukraine



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"Success is anything but certain," warned Germany's Merkel during the uncomfortably un-united joint press conference as both the leaders appeared to be able to agree on only one thing - that a military solution will not happen. This was followed by what appeared to be President Obama conceding to Merkel that the provision of arms to Ukraine was kinda sorta 'off-the-table' - though still under "ongoing analysis."  Hopes remain for a diplomatic solution and President Obama even concluded, "we are not looking for Russia to fail. ... Our preference is for a strong, vibrant, confident Russia." Other items that caused some tension included Iran, Israel, NSA "trust" and US asking for "benefit of the doubt," and Greek anti-austerity plans...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-09/obama-merkel-agree-no-prospect-military-solution-ukraine

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February 09, 2015, 11:33:53 PM
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Posting this here as an unverified report. If true, the info is quite alarming:
http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/02/are-tactical-nuclear-weapons-being-used-in-the-eastern-ukraine-by-the-kiev-junta/

Read elsewhere that there was an explosion of a Russian humanitarian convoy, delivering food items. Possibly a sabotage.

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February 10, 2015, 02:32:51 AM
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Posting this here as an unverified report. If true, the info is quite alarming:
http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/02/are-tactical-nuclear-weapons-being-used-in-the-eastern-ukraine-by-the-kiev-junta/

Read elsewhere that there was an explosion of a Russian humanitarian convoy, delivering food items. Possibly a sabotage.

There is enough evidence to prove that Ukraine is using the OTR-21 Tochka (SS-21 Scarab) short-range tactical ballistic missile against the rebels. The same missile does have the capability to carry a nuclear warhead.
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February 10, 2015, 04:53:54 AM
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I don´t get it. According to the mob, Russia is totally isolated internationally. Yet Mr. Putin just received Merkel and Hollande and now

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Russian President Vladimir Putin is scheduled to stay in Cairo for two days, to discuss with his counterpart Abdul Fattah el-Sisi about the possibility of securing closer military and economic ties between the two countries. Both leaders are also expected to talk about the current situation in Syria, along with coalition airstrikes against ISIS and their ineffectiveness.

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February 10, 2015, 06:28:42 AM
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Failed state: Ukraine´s monetary unit the hryvnia just cratered by another 50%. Before the western mob put its nazi pals there into power the hryvnia had been pretty steady at 8-9 per dollar by year´s end it was at 15 and now 25.

Bankrupt country, useless military, runaway inflation - I put the life expectancy of the worse than useless regime at 2-3 months at most.

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February 10, 2015, 07:27:16 AM
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I don´t get it. According to the mob, Russia is totally isolated internationally. Yet Mr. Putin just received Merkel and Hollande and now

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Russian President Vladimir Putin is scheduled to stay in Cairo for two days, to discuss with his counterpart Abdul Fattah el-Sisi about the possibility of securing closer military and economic ties between the two countries. Both leaders are also expected to talk about the current situation in Syria, along with coalition airstrikes against ISIS and their ineffectiveness.

Don't believe anything of what you hear and half of what you see... Cool

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February 10, 2015, 07:36:51 AM
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I don´t get it. According to the mob, Russia is totally isolated internationally.
According to Bagdad Bob propaganda, you mean Grin
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February 10, 2015, 08:48:23 AM
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Posting this here as an unverified report. If true, the info is quite alarming:
http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/02/are-tactical-nuclear-weapons-being-used-in-the-eastern-ukraine-by-the-kiev-junta/

Read elsewhere that there was an explosion of a Russian humanitarian convoy, delivering food items. Possibly a sabotage.

Nukes are unlikely. The sensors in Russia (and around the world) would indicate a nuclear explosion and in the next few minutes the news channels would explode. In addition that would be the perfect reason for Russia for a full scale intervention.
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February 10, 2015, 08:52:35 AM
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I don´t get it. According to the mob, Russia is totally isolated internationally.
According to Bagdad Bob propaganda, you mean Grin

You know; I´m actually beginning to think that Russia helped put that totally useless nazi crap into power to put the totally brain-dead western mob on the spot. And help its own national security interests as the Crimea and Donbass are concerned of course.

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February 10, 2015, 09:23:34 AM
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Thought I saw somewhere that Brennan, CIA director, is in Kiev now. Uh oh, look out below Ukrainians. Some major poop is about to hit the fan making your currency even more worthless Grin

As some of you may remember the Donbass military operations of the Kiev regime (or anti-terror operations as they predictably called them) started right after Mr. Brennan´s visit there last April. If you look at the record of this psychopath and his psycho-legion in other countries you´ll understand much better how the disaster of the Donbass and atrocities against its population came about.

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February 10, 2015, 09:45:05 AM
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I don´t get it. According to the mob, Russia is totally isolated internationally.
According to Bagdad Bob propaganda, you mean Grin

You know; I´m actually beginning to think that Russia helped put that totally useless nazi crap into power to put the totally brain-dead western mob on the spot. And help its own national security interests as the Crimea and Donbass are concerned of course.
A lot of people here would agree that the most of nazis, such as Yarosh, Tyahnybok or Farion, are FSB/SVR agents. It sems that they were installed to make Obama's control over Europe weaker.
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February 10, 2015, 09:56:44 AM
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I don´t get it. According to the mob, Russia is totally isolated internationally.
According to Bagdad Bob propaganda, you mean Grin

You know; I´m actually beginning to think that Russia helped put that totally useless nazi crap into power to put the totally brain-dead western mob on the spot. And help its own national security interests as the Crimea and Donbass are concerned of course.
A lot of people here would agree that the most of nazis, such as Yarosh, Tyahnybok or Farion, are FSB/SVR agents. It sems that they were installed to make Obama's control over Europe weaker.

Wouldn´t be surprised. You never know where you have those crafty Russians. They are chess players, masters of strategy. Don´t want to underestimate them, that´s for sure.

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February 10, 2015, 10:18:35 AM
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"Germany reserves the right to impose sanctions on Ukraine"--Steinmeier



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Ukrainian MFA summons Germany’s ambassador after Steinmeier mentions possible sanctions against Kiev

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Frank-Walter Steinmeier’s announcement that sanctions against Kiev are possible cause a furious reaction by the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The Foreign Minister Steinmeier made this statement in an interview with the ARD TV channel.

Steinmeier said that if no political decision is reached in Ukraine, the German government reserves the right to “act decisively against the Ukrainian leadership, up to and including sanctions”.

Germany’s ambassador to Ukraine Christoph Weil was forced to have a discussion with the Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine Andrey Olefirov due to Steinmeier’s statement.

Ukrainian diplomats are very sensitive to Western countries’ position on the ongoing crisis in the country. However, that sensitivity is very one-sided. In December Ukraine’s ambassador to the EU Andrey Eliseev similarly strongly reacted to Steinmeier’s statement that Ukraine is not wanted in NATO.

“Nobody can prevent Kiev from joining NATO!”  was the Ukrainian diplomat’s reply. Germans, as usual, took no offense, and nobody summoned Ukraine’s ambassador to the German MFA.

J.Hawk’s Comment: Let’s not forget Steinmeier’s statement was made against the background of Angela Merkel’s visit to the US. It would seem that everyone knows what Poroshenko must do. It would seem that we now know what was agreed to between Putin, Merkel, and Hollande in Moscow, namely the federalization of Ukraine. It's a solution that is consistent with the interests of both Russia and Germany, as the two countries in effect decide the zones of their respective zones of economic influence. It also has the benefit (from everyone's perspective except the junta's) of cutting the junta out of the equation to a significant degree.

Poroshenko, for his part, is still insisting that the situation should revert to the original (and never implemented) Minsk agreement. “Finis Ucrainae” is still the most likely scenario, unless something snaps in Kiev. That Western leaders are, for the first time, suggesting the possibility of Kiev being sanctioned suggests Poroshenko is in process of graduating from "disappointment" to "liability.
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February 10, 2015, 11:30:12 AM
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Hmmm... surprise offensive by the Azov Nazis towards Novoazovsk. Already they have seized a number of smaller villages along the Azov sea (such as Shirokino and Pavlopol).
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February 10, 2015, 12:09:07 PM
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Hmmm... surprise offensive by the Azov Nazis towards Novoazovsk. Already they have seized a number of smaller villages along the Azov sea (such as Shirokino and Pavlopol).

No surprise really, they are desperately trying to retract some Novorossian forces from Debaltsevo. And these localities were neutral territory at that (it may well be a trap cleverly laid out for the Ukropians)... Cool 

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February 10, 2015, 06:29:03 PM
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Hmmm... surprise offensive by the Azov Nazis towards Novoazovsk. Already they have seized a number of smaller villages along the Azov sea (such as Shirokino and Pavlopol).

And it has already been reported they took heavy losses.

Here is a pic of several captured Azov members.

https://twitter.com/Truth_Seeker_11/status/565179886932094976

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February 10, 2015, 06:46:43 PM
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Mob media slip or maybe not

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Social media is abuzz after CNN labeled Ukrainian forces involved in Kiev’s deadly military operation in the country's southeast as “pro-US troops.” Online comments are calling it a Freudian slip, claiming it unmasks the true agenda behind the conflict.

The headline during CNN’s Monday segment, dedicated to talks between Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel on the resolution of the Ukraine crisis, read: “Obama considers arming pro-US troops.”

http://rt.com/usa/230759-cnn-us-troops-ukraine/



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February 10, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2015, 07:25:40 PM by Nemo1024
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Hmmm... surprise offensive by the Azov Nazis towards Novoazovsk. Already they have seized a number of smaller villages along the Azov sea (such as Shirokino and Pavlopol).

And it has already been reported they took heavy losses.

Here is a pic of several captured Azov members.

https://twitter.com/Truth_Seeker_11/status/565179886932094976



The commenters there say that the "after" photo is from Debaltsevo.

Now...

Kramatorsk was shelled. This is the reason for the delay of the planned Minsk talks:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/02/10/n_6912253.shtml?fff

The interesting thing. Now that the Debaltsevo pocket is closed and the cards for Minsk talks are in the hands of DNR, Kiev desperately needs a false flag, and hey presto, here it comes! Kramatorsk was shelled from the direction of Gorlovka, controlled by NRA. And 58 people are wounded as the result. And, unlike when Donetsk is shelled everyday and no one bats and eyelid, this shelling suddenly became high-profile news.

http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/02/10/n_6912201.shtml

What I know from before, is that there are many mobile hit-and-run provocation Ukro-army groups, operating on the territory of DNR.

DNR expects Ukrainian forces to start an offensive (last pitch) against Donetsk from the direction of Orlovka:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/02/10/n_6912361.shtml

Ukraine asked Russia to restructure Ukraine's debt. Russia declined.
http://tass.ru/ekonomika/1758277

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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