[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[kpierce77]

i don't want scammers to get paid but setting reset should cost mint pal some sort of penalty. I think they should have to donate some money or something. Otherwise, i think the whole crypto community will be left with a bad taste. Ok we took all the money back from the scammers but we gave half to sick kids in africa or something.. Otherwise I'm cutting mint pal off my list of useable sites

You are kidding right. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

In the words of Dubya... Ya can't get fooled again.

[RW-Stott]

Even if VeriCoin were to completely die from this, no value in the crypto world would be lost.  ALL of VRC's features are centralized, and today's fiasco shows us exactly why that is so dangerous.

Not to mention that veribit is a complete gimmick.  Dump VRC for BTC to make purchases... Really?  This sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?  Wait, this is what I can do with EVERY altcoin on ANY exchange.  Except with centralized veribit I place my trust in the hands of VRC's "security team" (which is one person).

No thanks.

[bigc1984]

Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.

Actually hard forking to avoid a transaction makes your coin lose 100% of it's integrity.

What integrity are you talking about? Avoiding a malicious transaction?

So it is okay to steal in cryptocurrencies and get away with it now?

Aww, does someone need mommy to hold their hand on their trip to the bank? Nice mickey mouse coin.

[buy4crypto]

Even if VeriCoin were to completely die from this, no value in the crypto world would be lost.  ALL of VRC's features are centralized, and today's fiasco shows us exactly why that is so dangerous.

Not to mention that veribit is a complete gimmick.  Dump VRC for BTC to make purchases... Really?  This sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?  Wait, this is what I can do with EVERY altcoin on ANY exchange.  Except with veribit I place my trust in the hands of VRC's "security team" (which is one person).

No thanks.

Actually veri-bit costs .20 cents to get money to bitcoin wallet from cryptsy, withdraw bitcoin and it costs .31


So, its a "gimmick" that actually saves you money! Huh, whatta gimmick!

[libertynow]

I'm assuming everyone in this forum is smart enough to realize that all the FUD against Vericoin and the hard fork is coming from the HACKERS trying to get away with their theft. 

Of course after I post this, the fudders will then deny that they are the hackers, but we're smart enough not to fall for asshole thieves.

To the hackers...you're a bunch of amateur jerkoffs for stealing the VRC.  Fuck you, the hard fork is going through.  Stop wasting your time on this forum trying to find the 8 year olds who are dumb enough to believe your lame arguments against the hard fork.  Please take your talent and use it to contribute to society rather than taking away.  Right now, you're pretty much the scum of the earth.

[phzi]

So, its a "gimmick" that actually saves you money! Huh, whatta gimmick!

Yup.  A lame centralized gimmick, like all of the other VRC 'features'.

I'm assuming everyone in this forum is smart enough to realize that all the FUD against Vericoin and the hard fork is coming from the HACKERS trying to get away with their theft.  

If you think that is a smart conclusion, you're the dumb one.  You really trying to say I (and others in this thread that agree with me) am holding some of those stolen coins?

Check yourself before you speak...  You are the "scum of the earth" you speak of if you dare accuse us of something like this.

And FFS... stop calling this a hardfork.  This is a blockchain rollback.  There is a huge difference.

[bigc1984]

I'm assuming everyone in this forum is smart enough to realize that all the FUD against Vericoin and the hard fork is coming from the HACKERS trying to get away with their theft. 

Of course after I post this, the fudders will then deny that they are the hackers, but we're smart enough not to fall for asshole thieves.

To the hackers...you're a bunch of amateur jerkoffs for stealing the VRC.  Fuck you, the hard fork is going through.  Stop wasting your time on this forum trying to find the 8 year olds who are dumb enough to believe your lame arguments against the hard fork.  Please take your talent and use it to contribute to society rather than taking away.  Right now, you're pretty much the scum of the earth.

lol @ mad bag holder trying to retain value of dead coin.

[YoyodyneSystems]

So what is the exact time of the cutoff for what transactions the rollback will reverse?

12 hours ago? 14 hours ago?

[RW-Stott]

Even if VeriCoin were to completely die from this, no value in the crypto world would be lost.  ALL of VRC's features are centralized, and today's fiasco shows us exactly why that is so dangerous.

Not to mention that veribit is a complete gimmick.  Dump VRC for BTC to make purchases... Really?  This sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?  Wait, this is what I can do with EVERY altcoin on ANY exchange.  Except with veribit I place my trust in the hands of VRC's "security team" (which is one person).

No thanks.

Actually veri-bit costs .20 cents to get money to bitcoin wallet from cryptsy, withdraw bitcoin and it costs .31


So, its a "gimmick" that actually saves you money! Huh, whatta gimmick!

Even if that were true, I'd rather pay the extra .11 cents to trust centralized security of Cryptsy's team than VRC's 1 man operator.  

Veribit is a complete joke.  Just like it is a complete joke that they are rolling back this coin, compromising the integrity of the blockchain.  I'll have my popcorn ready for the mass dumps.

[stormia]

So, its a "gimmick" that actually saves you money! Huh, whatta gimmick!

Yup.  A lame centralized gimmick, like all of the other VRC 'features'.

When you start reverting back to insulting other aspects of the coin it becomes clear to people that your previous posts and "recommendations" are all given with similar ill intent. You are a troll who is happy to see VRC hurting, congrats..

[eiskalt]

In your logic there should be no hardfork ever, because it is always a bailout.

If bitcoin hardforks for whatever reason, they do it to protect their coin. It is a centralized decision and they are bailing out themselves. If they would not hardfork, the coin would die. You are advocating this, so please demand it from the BTC-DEVs and the foundation.

You have a horrid sense of logic or understanding of crypto if that was your conclusion.  Hardforks are perfectly valid, specifically when a coin is developing - for security reason, or feature development.  But they should be very very carefully considered.

The key is that this VRC move isn't a hardfork, it is a blockchain rollback for external purposes that are totally unrelated to coin development.

Maybe you understand, that you are contradicting yourself, but I doubt it.
Had the hardforks in BTC protocol not occurred, it would be a dead coin. The BTC-DEVs decided to alter the blockchain and the miners followed through.

I cannot see why you wish thieves to get rewarded and the victims to get punished. The VRC-DEVs considered carefully and rightfully, that altering the blockchain at this point is the best decision for the coin, because it will restore trust in it.

BTW nothing, that happens to a coin is "totally unrelated" to its development.

[ofp]

Why the heck should we worry about the opinion of those who don't own vericoins?
They can't dump them.
They can only BUY them, if and when they want to.
Those who actually own Vericoins will get them back as soon as devs release the new wallet.

[phzi]

When you start reverting back to insulting other aspects of the coin it becomes clear to people that your previous posts and "recommendations" are all given with similar ill intent. You are a troll who is happy to see VRC hurting, congrats..

If you're so blind that you can't see that these 'features' are pure gimmicks, then I wish you all the luck holding your bag.

The butt hurt bag holders in this thread are priceless.

[buy4crypto]

So, its a "gimmick" that actually saves you money! Huh, whatta gimmick!

Yup.  A lame centralized gimmick, like all of the other VRC 'features'.

I'm assuming everyone in this forum is smart enough to realize that all the FUD against Vericoin and the hard fork is coming from the HACKERS trying to get away with their theft.  

If you think that is a smart conclusion, you're the dumb one.  You really trying to say I (and others in this thread that agree with me) am holding some of those stolen coins?

Check yourself before you speak...  You are the "scum of the earth" you speak of if you dare accuse us of something like this.

And FFS... stop calling this a hardfork.  This is a blockchain rollback.  There is a huge difference.

I'll say it again, a gimmick is something that has no value. Saving someone .10 - .11 USD on a .31 USD transaction is important no, Pretty VALUABLE would you say? Or, is it still a gimick?

[buy4crypto]

When you start reverting back to insulting other aspects of the coin it becomes clear to people that your previous posts and "recommendations" are all given with similar ill intent. You are a troll who is happy to see VRC hurting, congrats..

If you're so blind that you can't see that these 'features' are pure gimmicks, then I wish you all the luck holding your bag.

The butt hurt bag holders in this thread are priceless.

Incase you aren't good at math, or never checked out the gimmick aside from mocking it, let me say it again. I can keep saying this as long as you want to say its a gimmick, because you miss the value big time in this.



Actually veri-bit costs .20 cents to get money to bitcoin wallet from cryptsy, withdraw bitcoin and it costs .31


So, its a "gimmick" that actually saves you money! Huh, whatta gimmick!

[btminer8]

Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.

Actually hard forking to avoid a transaction makes your coin lose 100% of it's integrity.

What integrity are you talking about? Avoiding a malicious transaction?

So it is okay to steal in cryptocurrencies and get away with it now?

Aww, does someone need mommy to hold their hand on their trip to the bank? Nice mickey mouse coin.

If this is your conclusion, you showed your true colours.

[chunkyjunkie]

Everything you say is false, misleading or you just keep ignoring the situation.  I can't keep up, but you are not alone.

I stopped responding to people because it is the same thing over and over.  You explain to them what 8 mil coins staking at once would do and they ignore, or they make up their own bitcoin history like you just did

You take the time to respond, but doesn't make a single worthwhile comment...  Obviously you just have nothing to say of value.

Nothing I have said is false or misleading (and nobody has proven otherwise - nobody has even made an intelligent counter point to anything I've said).  I've made up no history - bitcoin and litecoin have NEVER rolled-back the chain for an external reason like an exchange.

If the blockchain network can't survive this, then the coin doesn't deserve to survive.  A rollback like this is so counter to the very ideas of distributed trust, that it's almost offensive.

I stopped responding because it is the same thing over and over. Blah blah.. bs fud.

A coin with great devs, innovating, delivering and showing integrity and not being anon and closing shop should pay because a big exchange like mintpal failed.

Mintpal failed on the most basic of levels, you don't hold 8 million coins in a hot wallet.  So any pos coin should suffer if an outside entity is irresponsible at best and reward thieves?  Very interesting view

[eiskalt]

And FFS... stop calling this a hardfork.  This is a blockchain rollback.  There is a huge difference.

Desperately trying to create new buzzwords? The blockchain gets altered as has happened many times with other coins.

But you are right, the special thing here is, that thieves will hold an empty bag.

[phzi]

And FFS... stop calling this a hardfork.  This is a blockchain rollback.  There is a huge difference.

Desperately trying to create new buzzwords? The blockchain gets altered as has happened many times with other coins.

But you are right, the special thing here is, that thieves will hold an empty bag.

It's just annoying to see people use the completely wrong term to describe something.  Education is good, no?

[chunkyjunkie]

When you start reverting back to insulting other aspects of the coin it becomes clear to people that your previous posts and "recommendations" are all given with similar ill intent. You are a troll who is happy to see VRC hurting, congrats..

If you're so blind that you can't see that these 'features' are pure gimmicks, then I wish you all the luck holding your bag.

The butt hurt bag holders in this thread are priceless.

You are a crypto stalker lol.  Very interested in a coin that in your opinion has no value.  

Why so worried? Sold and want to buy back in cheap?  Sorry for your loss but it still does not change the facts.  VRC did what was needed to protect the community due to another entities negligence. PERIOD.