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August 02, 2014, 03:48:20 PM |
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Crypto Analytics has reiterated its BUY rating = Crpyto Analytics holds VRC. Good to know =0
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August 02, 2014, 04:16:05 PM |
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Well all things considered my personal beliefs are that theres alot of people out there that want to see VRC fail because they know that whatever scam/shit coin they are working on/invested in can't hold a candle to VRC and that the price slump is due to market manipulation just look at all the evidence,
Exhibit A) When we first started taking off in price how many FUDDERS showed up trying to run people off and when that didn't work and we kept going higher we go to...
Exhibit B) The MP hack where 30% of all VRC was stolen, I truly believe this was perpetrated by the same person or persons behind the FUDDERs, but now we go to...
Exhibit C) The constant DDoS attacks on the SuperNodes that have been occurring the past few days, this is obviously a concentrated effort by a desperate entity trying to pull out all the stops to destabilize VRC, but now we go to...
Exhibit D) The OBVIOUS manipulation and suppression of the price of VRC by a person or persons, look at the fake sell walls, look at how EVERYTIME there is an uptrend somebody comes and dumps the price right back to the 15k range, if it really was an exit holders would have sold off on the open market and moved on (as most weakhands have) so now all thats left are the true investors/believers and the person or persons trying to kill VRC and suppress the market. We have even had ACTUAL FOREX ANALYSTS POINT OUT THE VRC MARKET IS BEING OBVIOUSLY AND ARTIFICIALLY SUPPRESSED. and then we go to last but not least...
Exhibit E) The lack of liquidity across the market in general, as it has already been pointed out there are plenty of factors attributing to the lack of volume and I STRONGLY disagree with anyone who says this isn't a factor because lets take a second to look at the numbers. Before the Summer loss of volume VRC ALONE on JUST MINTPAL had between 1200 and 1500 BTC volume DAILY, now the exchanges can BARELY hit that mark on their TOTAL volume much less 1000 BTC volume on just one coin alone. So please, tell me again how this isn't an attributing factor?
In Summary: Until volume returns to the market at large and we buy out the manipulator(s) the price is going to struggle short-term, but as long as the community stays positive and active and the Devs keep developing and innovating, the long-term potential of VRC is still as bright, if not brighter, as it was when price was 50k. This is just a perfect time for all of us to buy VRC on the cheap and hang on.
The manipulator is getting richer suppressing it. He/She dumps on the advances then buys more back, when it falls. Making it more difficult each time. The only way to pull out is to keep going up. Make it cost him/her more to buy back in to continue the manipulation. The other choice is to let this great coin go. Regardless what happens, I support the devs decision 100%. Stealing millions back from the thieves. Like BTC stole those billions back from the exploiter. Very cool! How many other coin devs, could you already know, if you ever met them in person? Most hide anonymously behind their online nicks. These guys obviously do good work. Someone thought enough to run a heist on an exchange. Maybe the same someone/s suppressing it. In the "Methinks thou protests to much" category. I have suspicions about bob and/or smoothies involvement. Maybe they're just pawns. Dupes playing into the thieve and manipulators hands. But they seem awfully motivated.
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August 02, 2014, 05:46:56 PM |
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When staking, why am I getting " Generated but not accepted interest" ?
Not trying to FUD but just a question.
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August 02, 2014, 06:34:19 PM |
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Stake is averaging 15 million. That's a the most I've ever seen. Congrats Vericoin. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 02, 2014, 06:40:07 PM |
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Stake is averaging 15 million. That's a the most I've ever seen. Congrats Vericoin. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It was 19 M. Few hours back. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUWU9M6X.png&t=665&c=X9pcoRkORgLkNA)
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August 02, 2014, 06:42:19 PM |
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When staking, why am I getting " Generated but not accepted interest" ?
Not trying to FUD but just a question.
Having staked several coins I get this in every one of them. I think they are comparable to orphaned blocks when mining. Two people found the same block and you were chosen as the loser. XST for example, has a very active chain. After many users participated in a "stakes 1 minute apart competition". I currently have 550 incoming stake transactions and about 40 of these are the "not confirmed" type. It could just be a percentage, or possibly the more participants staking, competing for blocks, the bigger chance of ties finding blocks. Or I need to reload my wallet like Mad says ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Here's the kicker, and a good reason to do mini stakes and buck up the block chain like xst did. I grumbled about the transaction fee, when I was sending over 100 small deposits to my wallet. But 1 round of staking more than recouped any loss on the deposit fees. If I'm not mistaken this speeds up the confirms making the coin move around more quickly.
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August 02, 2014, 06:49:15 PM |
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When staking, why am I getting " Generated but not accepted interest" ?
Not trying to FUD but just a question.
Having staked several coins I get this in every one of them. I think they are comparable to orphaned blocks when mining. Two people found the same block and you were chosen as the loser. XST for example, has a very active chain. After many users participated in a "stakes 1 minute apart competition". I currently have 550 incoming stake transactions and about 40 of these are the "not confirmed" type. It could just be a percentage, or possibly the more participants staking, competing for blocks, the bigger chance of ties finding blocks. I'll add to this that, unless you're getting several of those consecutively over a period of time, it's not really an issue. Since your coins did not successfully stake, they did not lose coinage; the next time they DO stake, you should receive a higher interest payout as a result. You're not losing any coins.
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August 02, 2014, 07:46:43 PM |
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I was gonna say the easy way of stopping this manipulation is to buy straight off the stack instead of waiting to get dumped on but from the resent green to red it looks like ya might already be doing that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 02, 2014, 11:07:06 PM |
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lol.. listen if it is manipulation there is a simple way to deal with this. instead of whining about the price.. buy more vericoin each day. post buys on each increment 14, 13, 12, 11, 10 and so on. buy more vericoin the lower the price goes and hold your coin until theres noone to sell except those of us who will only place sell orders from .05btc per vrc. noone sell under that and work together as a community and thats it. what will they do? sell down to 1000 satoshi again?? lmao if only. its simple. committed investors in this coin do not care about day to day fluctuations. only traders in my view trying to extract btc investment from others. the coin is useful as it is. it does not need to be transferred into btc to be useful. create a budget and buy some vericoin each day or week or whatever at whatever price point its at. it really shouldnt matter if ur a committed investor. let the fleas get shaken off the product and then make a big jump. im not giving any more vericoin pep talks because of what i just said above. let those who want to sell sell into stronger hands. that's how the stock will get taken further. not by little prissies who buy at 15k and sell at 16 and call themselves investors. but by those who can have a good nights rest even though stock value fell sharply overnight because they know their investment. what did you guys run out of btc or something? i sold around 40k, bought back in at 18k 17k and 15k, and im waiting to see where this bugger will bottom out to get even more. im not going to lie and say i dont want the price to go lower lol. but i dont mind if it does lets say. i made a decent profit and now have more vericoin than i sold originally with btc to spare. moving my vrc off exchange atm to send to stake. if u believe in this coin day to day fluctuations arent going to be an issue. they will be seen as an opportunity. so close your eyes to the order books for a while. watch a movie. if u werent too greedy with ur investment strategy then this wouldnt be a problem for you. i bought what i can afford to invest without minding if i lose it all. but vericoin is too solid for that to happen. only reason i sold at 40k is because i knew a good lot would cashout on that first price rise. but if not for that i wouldve held. ill be holding now considering ive multiplied my holdings and that was always the aim since im mining this vericoin stock for all the years it will exist. not just today and tomorrow. vericoin will find a way to make more waves with new investors so in a dramatic change of tone in my usual talks. stake-up, or shutup! one man's trash is another man's treasure #end_rant ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i dont know about u guys but vrc is the one investment where i bought at 18k and slept well watching arrow episodes on my new 150 inch projector yeah!! today price is hovering around 14k and im contemplating getting more with buy orders set at 13 and 12k for now.
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August 03, 2014, 01:24:43 AM |
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Hpmm...
I just transferred some VRC from Bittrex to my Vericoin wallet on my computer - but i haven't got anything yet.. (it's been a while now)
Block explorer cannot find the transaction id or my wallet address (though, to be fair it is the first transaction to that address)
I am using the latest wallet. Should i be worried??
EDIT: Transaction complete 2mins after i post this!
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Ed4252
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August 03, 2014, 01:48:55 AM |
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When staking, why am I getting " Generated but not accepted interest" ?
Not trying to FUD but just a question.
Having staked several coins I get this in every one of them. I think they are comparable to orphaned blocks when mining. Two people found the same block and you were chosen as the loser. XST for example, has a very active chain. After many users participated in a "stakes 1 minute apart competition". I currently have 550 incoming stake transactions and about 40 of these are the "not confirmed" type. It could just be a percentage, or possibly the more participants staking, competing for blocks, the bigger chance of ties finding blocks. I'll add to this that, unless you're getting several of those consecutively over a period of time, it's not really an issue. Since your coins did not successfully stake, they did not lose coinage; the next time they DO stake, you should receive a higher interest payout as a result. You're not losing any coins. Is that message happening to anyone else? I'm getting that at least 3-4 times a day.
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Coinler
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August 03, 2014, 01:51:56 AM |
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When staking, why am I getting " Generated but not accepted interest" ?
Not trying to FUD but just a question.
Having staked several coins I get this in every one of them. I think they are comparable to orphaned blocks when mining. Two people found the same block and you were chosen as the loser. XST for example, has a very active chain. After many users participated in a "stakes 1 minute apart competition". I currently have 550 incoming stake transactions and about 40 of these are the "not confirmed" type. It could just be a percentage, or possibly the more participants staking, competing for blocks, the bigger chance of ties finding blocks. I'll add to this that, unless you're getting several of those consecutively over a period of time, it's not really an issue. Since your coins did not successfully stake, they did not lose coinage; the next time they DO stake, you should receive a higher interest payout as a result. You're not losing any coins. Is that message happening to anyone else? I'm getting that at least 3-4 times a day. i think you need to leave the wallet open so the stake coins can mature. otherwise they get orphaned. i just synced up and have some accumulated stake that needs to be re-done as well so ill know soon enough if staking is working fine for sure.
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August 03, 2014, 03:55:40 AM |
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Is Vericoin really looking to integrate a p2p exchange? That would be so awesome if it would. Would be very apt after the whole mintpal incident and all =p
It doesn't even make scene for VRC to create an ano / p2p exchanges. This is all hype shit in the end to make a coin pump and dump. I mean sure p2p / ano exchanges are great, but in the end if you have 100 of them they will all be useless because they don't have anyvolume. And in the end the coin itself doesn't even serve a purpose for a p2p exchange. It's just good for funding it. And since there are several exchanges in development / released (keycoin) I would say it's a waste of time to get a ano/p2p exchange for VRC as well. If VRC wants to stand out they should come up with something really innovativ and suprising. Not just copy existing features of other coins. ok all well and good but are you going to all the other coins that have copied VRC's INNOVATIVE features (i.e. Network-stake dependent Interest, VeriBit) and slamming them for not doing anything original and copying VRC? What's that? You aren't? I didn't think so. And if we follow your logic to it's inevitable and tragic end then we will find that, again by YOUR logic, everyone in the world needs to stop making exchanges, and everyone in the world needs to stop improving on exchanges because theres enough and it isn't "Innovative" There ALWAYS room for improvement, so maybe VRC's p2p exchange will be better in someway to the others out there, you don't have to be different to be "Innovative", you just have to be better, which VRC unequivocally is.
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August 03, 2014, 04:28:40 AM |
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Is Vericoin really looking to integrate a p2p exchange? That would be so awesome if it would. Would be very apt after the whole mintpal incident and all =p
It doesn't even make scene for VRC to create an ano / p2p exchanges. This is all hype shit in the end to make a coin pump and dump. I mean sure p2p / ano exchanges are great, but in the end if you have 100 of them they will all be useless because they don't have anyvolume. And in the end the coin itself doesn't even serve a purpose for a p2p exchange. It's just good for funding it. And since there are several exchanges in development / released (keycoin) I would say it's a waste of time to get a ano/p2p exchange for VRC as well. If VRC wants to stand out they should come up with something really innovativ and suprising. Not just copy existing features of other coins. ok all well and good but are you going to all the other coins that have copied VRC's INNOVATIVE features (i.e. Network-stake dependent Interest, VeriBit) and slamming them for not doing anything original and copying VRC? What's that? You aren't? I didn't think so. And if we follow your logic to it's inevitable and tragic end then we will find that, again by YOUR logic, everyone in the world needs to stop making exchanges, and everyone in the world needs to stop improving on exchanges because theres enough and it isn't "Innovative" There ALWAYS room for improvement, so maybe VRC's p2p exchange will be better in someway to the others out there, you don't have to be different to be "Innovative", you just have to be better, which VRC unequivocally is. yeah we would only have one brand of tires and everything else in the world as well. so one guy made the wheel. noone else should ever make one except him lol. by that logic we'd still be driving on wooden wheels with wooden spokes. or maybe stone like the flintstones era lol
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August 03, 2014, 04:54:54 AM |
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lol.. listen if it is manipulation there is a simple way to deal with this. instead of whining about the price.. buy more vericoin each day. post buys on each increment 14, 13, 12, 11, 10 and so on. buy more vericoin the lower the price goes and hold your coin until theres noone to sell except those of us who will only place sell orders from .05btc per vrc. noone sell under that and work together as a community and thats it. what will they do? sell down to 1000 satoshi again?? lmao if only. its simple. committed investors in this coin do not care about day to day fluctuations. only traders in my view trying to extract btc investment from others. the coin is useful as it is. it does not need to be transferred into btc to be useful. create a budget and buy some vericoin each day or week or whatever at whatever price point its at. it really shouldnt matter if ur a committed investor. let the fleas get shaken off the product and then make a big jump. im not giving any more vericoin pep talks because of what i just said above. let those who want to sell sell into stronger hands. that's how the stock will get taken further. not by little prissies who buy at 15k and sell at 16 and call themselves investors. but by those who can have a good nights rest even though stock value fell sharply overnight because they know their investment. what did you guys run out of btc or something? i sold around 40k, bought back in at 18k 17k and 15k, and im waiting to see where this bugger will bottom out to get even more. im not going to lie and say i dont want the price to go lower lol. but i dont mind if it does lets say. i made a decent profit and now have more vericoin than i sold originally with btc to spare. moving my vrc off exchange atm to send to stake. if u believe in this coin day to day fluctuations arent going to be an issue. they will be seen as an opportunity. so close your eyes to the order books for a while. watch a movie. if u werent too greedy with ur investment strategy then this wouldnt be a problem for you. i bought what i can afford to invest without minding if i lose it all. but vericoin is too solid for that to happen. only reason i sold at 40k is because i knew a good lot would cashout on that first price rise. but if not for that i wouldve held. ill be holding now considering ive multiplied my holdings and that was always the aim since im mining this vericoin stock for all the years it will exist. not just today and tomorrow. vericoin will find a way to make more waves with new investors so in a dramatic change of tone in my usual talks. stake-up, or shutup! one man's trash is another man's treasure #end_rant ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i dont know about u guys but vrc is the one investment where i bought at 18k and slept well watching arrow episodes on my new 150 inch projector yeah!! today price is hovering around 14k and im contemplating getting more with buy orders set at 13 and 12k for now. +111111111111111 ^^THIS
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August 03, 2014, 05:04:39 AM |
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Is Vericoin really looking to integrate a p2p exchange? That would be so awesome if it would. Would be very apt after the whole mintpal incident and all =p
It doesn't even make scene for VRC to create an ano / p2p exchanges. This is all hype shit in the end to make a coin pump and dump. I mean sure p2p / ano exchanges are great, but in the end if you have 100 of them they will all be useless because they don't have anyvolume. And in the end the coin itself doesn't even serve a purpose for a p2p exchange. It's just good for funding it. And since there are several exchanges in development / released (keycoin) I would say it's a waste of time to get a ano/p2p exchange for VRC as well. If VRC wants to stand out they should come up with something really innovativ and suprising. Not just copy existing features of other coins. ok all well and good but are you going to all the other coins that have copied VRC's INNOVATIVE features (i.e. Network-stake dependent Interest, VeriBit) and slamming them for not doing anything original and copying VRC? What's that? You aren't? I didn't think so. And if we follow your logic to it's inevitable and tragic end then we will find that, again by YOUR logic, everyone in the world needs to stop making exchanges, and everyone in the world needs to stop improving on exchanges because theres enough and it isn't "Innovative" There ALWAYS room for improvement, so maybe VRC's p2p exchange will be better in someway to the others out there, you don't have to be different to be "Innovative", you just have to be better, which VRC unequivocally is. yeah we would only have one brand of tires and everything else in the world as well. so one guy made the wheel. noone else should ever make one except him lol. by that logic we'd still be driving on wooden wheels with wooden spokes. or maybe stone like the flintstones era lol you da man +2222222222222
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August 03, 2014, 03:46:55 PM |
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Picked up some more Vrc, Way too undervalued time to get back up ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 03, 2014, 06:14:23 PM |
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Picked up some more Vrc, Way too undervalued time to get back up ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Nice. Been picking it up in the 14k's as well
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August 03, 2014, 06:39:23 PM |
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I reckon price is going to be quiet for another week or so, or whenever the next major update will come out from the devs.
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All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
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August 03, 2014, 07:34:43 PM |
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Hi everyone, I am getting 3 of the 3 interest for staking not accepted. Why is that that are not been accepted, is it somethong wrong with my wallet 1.3.4?
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