[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[setup]

So everybody is talking to move to Veritalk. But it seems nobody is reading the posts there. Reavon put a lot of work in two whitepapers and TJ_VRC offered his help to make a yt-video.
That are just two examples.
The response is poor. If this is what community means I'm scared.
Everybody has at least the ability to motivate those guys with a little "thank you". There are so many good supporters spending their time for free like Xosihc, Reavon, Socal, Kevondo and others and of course the devs.
Even Barabbas is useful for the community because another point of view can help sometimes. For my taste he is a little bit too negative but hey, I can live with that.

What I mean is: if you want to be a part of a community, you should also invest something at least a Little "Thank You" for the supporters!

Regards,
Michael

[barabbas]

So everybody is talking to move to Veritalk. But it seems nobody is reading the posts there. Reavon put a lot of work in two whitepapers and TJ_VRC offered his help to make a yt-video.
That are just two examples.
The response is poor. If this is what community means I'm scared.
Everybody has at least the ability to motivate those guys with a little "thank you". There are so many good supporters spending their time for free like Xosihc, Reavon, Socal, Kevondo and others and of course the devs.
Even Barabbas is useful for the community because another point of view can help sometimes. For my taste he is a little bit too negative but hey, I can live with that.

What I mean is: if you want to be a part of a community, you should also invest something at least a Little "Thank You" for the supporters!

Regards,
Michael

Well thank you Michael. A bit of good will is always a nice thing... but "a nice thing" is meaningless as far as supporting a project such as Vericoin. Just like those making the "efforts" would do the project a great favor not only if they would volunteer nothing but actually stay away completely... other than supporting it with their investment. Because those "efforts" are, obviously, counter productive. Just like the public appearances of the two devs that cannot stop saying meaningless and, again, counter-productive things. See? if it were for will, and enthusiasm and even dedication, all of us would be Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Albert Einstein, Roger Federer and Brad Pitt -to mention just some examples-, and win gold medals and world cup titles every 4 years on every discipline. Does deserve a "thank you" someone who spends inordinate amounts of time trying to run the 100 meters in under 12 seconds, when his best mark is 32? I believe, other than the benefit of the exercise, which is quite personal, is just an exhibition of complacency, just as eating 60 nuggets per session as KFC would be. And almost equally regrettable both. Definitely, not serving any community purpose of any measurable kind.

The reality is that those efforts by those individuals have, so far -Xosihc's will effect after it takes place-, taken us to a loss of over 80% from the highs, so perhaps we would have been much, much better without any effort at all? Just a very objective consideration.

So thanking efforts of obvious incompetence? No, thank you.

As for veritalk, what can I say? No one but no one ever wants to be in a place where only delusional and mental cheerleaders post. Not even them. Especially them. So if you expect that to take off any day soon, perhaps you should think it again.

[ereborltc]

i just like making barabbas type long rants it s entertaining as for me to help out I'm just an investor/cheerleader i have about 16000$ invested I don't day trade vericoin i stake them, only coin i don't trade, i also run a large manufacturing business and clothing line that i will be accepting vericoin as payment through my webshop... thats about what I'm good for if thats not enough for you mr.barabbas it doesn't bother me... I have faith in the community and the devs to manage the rest which is why i chose vericoin as my 1 coin i just accumulate and i trade the all the other weekly coins

you like to sound smart but really the way u speak says it all... as a business man ,even if you were a genius i wouldn't want to invest into anything that had a person like you involved...

little tip.. learn to speak to ppl and one day someone might take u seriously and let u ride their coat tail

[altcoinUK]

That was a veri good hangout out session.

Doug Ty. I learned a lot from it regarding how coins function as to how I thought I previously knew.  

A well Deserved Applause at the end to.

Still nobody want to realize of the evident? Every time dev # or dev #2 (in this case it is almost a daily occurrence), opens their mouth the price takes a hit. Why do you think that is? Oh I'll tell you why that happens: Because they have absolutely nothing of substance to say. Or worse: What they say is so utterly ridiculous that the effects are, ALWAYS, counter-productive.

As I have stated before many time: Keep your mouth totally shut. And open them ONLY when there's something ob substance to be said. That goes for interviews too. And, above all, before you say anything, think, reflect, study, ASK FOR GUIDANCE and finally say just what you should know by then it is appropriate and STICK TO IT and ONLY to it.

Once again, like talking to the freaking wall...

Jesus Babrabbas...why dont you take your own advice!

no ones listening... the way you talk no one wants to bother with you..good ideas or bad ideas doesn't matter, you come across rude and disrespectful..dont u get it by now... you ARE talking to a wall...

Simply amazing: Neither you, nor the other three (total) useless cheerleaders that keep on posting inanities day after day, hour after hour here, in spite of insisting that they want to only read what other cheerleaders post, as in veritalk, get that you are four (total) and that the vast majority of people with a deep or passing interest in Vericoin has absolutely no interest whatsoever in listening to your constant and mindless "support" (propaganda, rather).

Now, keep on asking for censorship, as you do 10 times a day, but here, where there's none -nor is wanted, of course- instead of going where you rightfully belong. Get this: You are 4 cheerleaders and 3 stooges, ok?

Simply amazing...

since your prob glued to your screen waiting for a reply ill play with you since you seem lonely,
but its always the same usual drunken rant... proving everyone right ... your not wanted in the cheerleader group , get it?
why so much effort? aren't you tiered ? lol

I thought you gone by now to veritalk to wait the sun shine out from the devs asses... we said goodbye to you already. You have added nothing the discussion apart from a) insulting investors who voice constructive criticism here  b) celebrating the nonsenses and rubbish that brought the price to 9k.

[barabbas]

i just like making barabbas type long rants it s entertaining as for me to help out I'm just an investor/cheerleader i have about 16000$ invested I don't day trade vericoin i stake them, only coin i don't trade, i also run a large manufacturing business and clothing line that i will be accepting vericoin as payment through my webshop... thats about what I'm good for if thats not enough for you mr.barabbas it doesn't bother me... I have faith in the community and the devs to manage the rest which is why i chose vericoin as my 1 coin i just accumulate and i trade the all the other weekly coins

you like to sound smart but really the way u speak says it all... as a business man ,even if you were a genius i wouldn't want to invest into anything that had a person like you involved...

little tip.. learn to speak to ppl and one day someone might take u seriously and let u ride their coat tail

Delusional as always. Get it for once: No one wants to be in any group of delusional, deranged cheerleaders like you are. No one. Just stick to veritalk and it will be much more eloquent that I can dream of being.

As for you, I wouldn't be in business with you, under any circumstance, even if you were to sell me dollars at 50 cents ... -figuratively speaking, of course-. People like you and the other three deranged cheerleaders and me, don't jell, never will. Now, the rest, the 99.99% rest, will do just fine -in degrees of course- when confronted, however bluntly, with the different facets of the truth.

But what do I know? You are an obviously successful individual and not so obviously happy one, so you much be doing something right. So, as long as you are happy... I just cannot bring myself to believe that you are even remotely close to that... and still spend inordinate amount of time posting nonsense here. But hey, it must be just me?

As for accepting VRC as payment in your business... you mean accepting payment through an intermediary -such as Moolah- or straight up VRC? I would expect nothing but the latter coming from such a cheerleader. And, actually, caveting -and achieving it as of now- the honor position of being the first one... I'm sure the stooges would be extremely happy putting your name as the first and only in the page marked as "Merchants" in the website. It currently looks quite depressing as it is. I'm not sure one -however "large"- would have a huge impact but certainly it wouldn't look as depressing. And you could write -although I strongly suggest that you dictate instead- it as historic in your memories...

[socal]

Hey guys sry I have been absent recently, still swamped with getting the Physical Vericoins in order, Anyway THANK YOU to everyone in the community for your support I know myself and the Devs are constantly really busy so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Once again THANK YOU everyone, your hard work and support are extremely appreciated

[setup]

So everybody is talking to move to Veritalk. But it seems nobody is reading the posts there. Reavon put a lot of work in two whitepapers and TJ_VRC offered his help to make a yt-video.
That are just two examples.
The response is poor. If this is what community means I'm scared.
Everybody has at least the ability to motivate those guys with a little "thank you". There are so many good supporters spending their time for free like Xosihc, Reavon, Socal, Kevondo and others and of course the devs.
Even Barabbas is useful for the community because another point of view can help sometimes. For my taste he is a little bit too negative but hey, I can live with that.

What I mean is: if you want to be a part of a community, you should also invest something at least a Little "Thank You" for the supporters!

Regards,
Michael

Well thank you Michael. A bit of good will is always a nice thing... but "a nice thing" is meaningless as far as supporting a project such as Vericoin. Just like those making the "efforts" would do the project a great favor not only if they would volunteer nothing but actually stay away completely... other than supporting it with their investment. Because those "efforts" are, obviously, counter productive. Just like the public appearances of the two devs that cannot stop saying meaningless and, again, counter-productive things. See? if it were for will, and enthusiasm and even dedication, all of us would be Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Albert Einstein, Roger Federer and Brad Pitt -to mention just some examples-, and win gold medals and world cup titles every 4 years on every discipline. Does deserve a "thank you" someone who spends inordinate amounts of time trying to run the 100 meters in under 12 seconds, when his best mark is 32? I believe, other than the benefit of the exercise, which is quite personal, is just an exhibition of complacency, just as eating 60 nuggets per session as KFC would be. And almost equally regrettable both. Definitely, not serving any community purpose of any measurable kind.

The reality is that those efforts by those individuals have, so far -Xosihc's will effect after it takes place-, taken us to a loss of over 80% from the highs, so perhaps we would have been much, much better without any effort at all? Just a very objective consideration.

So thanking efforts of obvious incompetence? No, thank you.

As for veritalk, what can I say? No one but no one ever wants to be in a place where only delusional and mental cheerleaders post. Not even them. Especially them. So if you expect that to take off any day soon, perhaps you should think it again.

Every post of you, Barabbas, sounds that you are a very embittered guy.
You wrote that enthusiasm and dedication are meaningless, for me it's everything. Without it the Vikings wouldn't have explored Newfoundland and Edison wouldn't had invented the light bulb because he didn't stop trying.
If you are enthusiastic and motivated you can reach nearly every goal. Of course there are a lot of mistakes you can make, but we are human beeings so we can learn from.
If the community and the devs are motivated, even when the value drops to 100 Sat, we can reach everything, all we have to do is keep on and don`t quit.
Like I wrote, your point of view is very often interesting and true, but trying to demotivate people is something you shouldn't do.

Regards,
Michael

[altcoinUK]

... so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Why the ideas need to be sent to you instead of write directly to this thread? Are the devs so busy that unable to follow this thread? It's obviously not the case here as the devs delivered nothing in the last 9 weeks, they don't work on the coin (at least do nothing that make sense) and should have time to read the input from investors/community members.

[ereborltc]

i just like making barabbas type long rants it s entertaining as for me to help out I'm just an investor/cheerleader i have about 16000$ invested I don't day trade vericoin i stake them, only coin i don't trade, i also run a large manufacturing business and clothing line that i will be accepting vericoin as payment through my webshop... thats about what I'm good for if thats not enough for you mr.barabbas it doesn't bother me... I have faith in the community and the devs to manage the rest which is why i chose vericoin as my 1 coin i just accumulate and i trade the all the other weekly coins

you like to sound smart but really the way u speak says it all... as a business man ,even if you were a genius i wouldn't want to invest into anything that had a person like you involved...

little tip.. learn to speak to ppl and one day someone might take u seriously and let u ride their coat tail

Delusional as always. Get it for once: No one wants to be in any group of delusional, deranged cheerleaders like you are. No one. Just stick to veritalk and it will be much more eloquent that I can dream of being.

As for you, I wouldn't be in business with you, under any circumstance, even if you were to sell me dollars at 50 cents ... -figuratively speaking, of course-. People like you and the other three deranged cheerleaders and me, don't jell, never will. Now, the rest, the 99.99% rest, will do just fine -in degrees of course- when confronted, however bluntly, with the different facets of the truth.

But what do I know? You are an obviously successful individual and not so obviously happy one, so you much be doing something right. So, as long as you are happy... I just cannot bring myself to believe that you are even remotely close to that... and still spend inordinate amount of time posting nonsense here. But hey, it must be just me?

As for accepting VRC as payment in your business... you mean accepting payment through an intermediary -such as Moolah- or straight up VRC? I would expect nothing but the latter coming from such a cheerleader. And, actually, caveting -and achieving it as of now- the honor position of being the first one... I'm sure the stooges would be extremely happy putting your name as the first and only in the page marked as "Merchants" in the website. It currently looks quite depressing as it is. I'm not sure one -however "large"- would have a huge impact but certainly it wouldn't look as depressing. And you could write -although I strongly suggest that you dictate instead- it as historic in your memories...

yes your right i am successful and i am very happily married with 3 beautiful children ,i couldn't care if i was the first or 20th business to accept vrc ,ill accept vrc cause its the coin i believe in and cause i can, u can go on disrespecting serious investors ,u prob don't do business with anyone and if u ever did it couldn't of been for too long.. you have no sense of communication.. so keep going with your senseless rants on how ppl are cheerleaders etc.. go do something useful with whatever it is that u do ,make some money ,meet a girl , get a friend or something you might become more humble... i work a lot with china so I'm up at these hrs and your my entertainment so thanx for that...

[kasman5]

... so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Why the ideas need to be sent to you instead of write directly to this thread? Are the devs so busy that unable to follow this thread? It's obviously not the case here as the devs delivered nothing in the last 9 weeks, they don't work on the coin (at least do nothing that make sense) and should have time to read the input from investors/community members.

Spot on mate. I don't like the opaque centralization of power that's taking place with Vericoin.

Take fore example the VRC to Fiat Card. How come insiders (Socal. Poeple who are part of marketing, whoever they maybe?) had access to this announcement well before the rest of the community. No one once said, "look, socal is helping to close this deal" or " 'insert-name' knows the announcement and is preparing the marketing material". I understand the Devs need help but why don't the devs make clear who is helping with what. If these members are going to have elevated roles within Vericoin then you should be transparent about it and put their information on the Vericoin site underneath the developers.

[barabbas]

So everybody is talking to move to Veritalk. But it seems nobody is reading the posts there. Reavon put a lot of work in two whitepapers and TJ_VRC offered his help to make a yt-video.
That are just two examples.
The response is poor. If this is what community means I'm scared.
Everybody has at least the ability to motivate those guys with a little "thank you". There are so many good supporters spending their time for free like Xosihc, Reavon, Socal, Kevondo and others and of course the devs.
Even Barabbas is useful for the community because another point of view can help sometimes. For my taste he is a little bit too negative but hey, I can live with that.

What I mean is: if you want to be a part of a community, you should also invest something at least a Little "Thank You" for the supporters!

Regards,
Michael

Well thank you Michael. A bit of good will is always a nice thing... but "a nice thing" is meaningless as far as supporting a project such as Vericoin. Just like those making the "efforts" would do the project a great favor not only if they would volunteer nothing but actually stay away completely... other than supporting it with their investment. Because those "efforts" are, obviously, counter productive. Just like the public appearances of the two devs that cannot stop saying meaningless and, again, counter-productive things. See? if it were for will, and enthusiasm and even dedication, all of us would be Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Albert Einstein, Roger Federer and Brad Pitt -to mention just some examples-, and win gold medals and world cup titles every 4 years on every discipline. Does deserve a "thank you" someone who spends inordinate amounts of time trying to run the 100 meters in under 12 seconds, when his best mark is 32? I believe, other than the benefit of the exercise, which is quite personal, is just an exhibition of complacency, just as eating 60 nuggets per session as KFC would be. And almost equally regrettable both. Definitely, not serving any community purpose of any measurable kind.

The reality is that those efforts by those individuals have, so far -Xosihc's will effect after it takes place-, taken us to a loss of over 80% from the highs, so perhaps we would have been much, much better without any effort at all? Just a very objective consideration.

So thanking efforts of obvious incompetence? No, thank you.

As for veritalk, what can I say? No one but no one ever wants to be in a place where only delusional and mental cheerleaders post. Not even them. Especially them. So if you expect that to take off any day soon, perhaps you should think it again.

Every post of you, Barabbas, sounds that you are a very embittered guy.
You wrote that enthusiasm and dedication are meaningless, for me it's everything. Without it the Vikings wouldn't have explored Newfoundland and Edison wouldn't had invented the light bulb because he didn't stop trying.
If you are enthusiastic and motivated you can reach nearly every goal. Of course there are a lot of mistakes you can make, but we are human beeings so we can learn from.
If the community and the devs are motivated, even when the value drops to 100 Sat, we can reach everything, all we have to do is keep on and don`t quit.
Like I wrote, your point of view is very often interesting and true, but trying to demotivate people is something you shouldn't do.

Regards,
Michael

No Michael, you are wrong. And it is already very late for you to realize that. Let me put it to you in a way that you can understand: To "reach nearly every goal", you have to start by setting REALISTIC goals, otherwise you would waste all your time, efforts, perseverance and enthusiasm. Get the difference? No matter how much you try to beat Kobe Bryant, you just will never be able to come even remotely close to it. Or much as you may like to sing like Placido Domingo or paint like Dali.... nah. Efforts, enthusiasm, training, the whole shebang... nada. Get it? It is only IF you have the talent, a condition sine qua non, you could get to those leagues. No talent = exercise in futility. I hope you get it. Because, frankly, you really, really need to.

I am not bitter at all. Tired of dealing with the most abject mediocrity, yes. But not bitter at all. Mediocrity will always be a stumbling block to progress. The mediocrity here is overwhelming. And that's why this project is destined to oblivion because mediocrity could, with a lot of support, potentially pull a mediocre outcome, but abject mediocrity mixed with arrogance, is a sure-fire failure going to happen.

[sluppy]

Can everyone just Ignore B and stop requoting him , hes like a little kid he likes the attention hes getting If u stop he`ll go away.

[altcoinUK]

You wrote that enthusiasm and dedication are meaningless, for me it's everything. Without it the Vikings wouldn't have explored Newfoundland and Edison wouldn't had invented the light bulb because he didn't stop trying.
If you are enthusiastic and motivated you can reach nearly every goal.

And the enthusiastic Vikings are fucked-up and don't even exists, while the less enthusiastic, but practical, rational and problem solver Swiss people enjoy their prosperous country.

The enthusiastic attitude and general sentiment of the community that anything the developers suggest must be the best thing that ever happened to mankind made this open source decentralized currency project a cult, in which the cult members (cheerleaders) wait the Sun shine out from the developers' asses, and once light is out in the form of lame ideas such as the VISA card then the cult members start the usual hype making dance and standing ovation ... and then the market reaction is a facepalm, and the price remains at 9k.

PS:
On the note of the VISA card idea, anyone knows who pays the US$ 15,000 fee for Coinsis? It is paid buy EffectsToCause or the devs dumped US$ 15,000 worth of VRC to pay that fee for the noname and untested Coinsis?
source: http://www.blkfeed.com/topic/170/coinsis-business-proposal-and-the-15k-previously-50k-ultimatum

[barabbas]

... so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Why the ideas need to be sent to you instead of write directly to this thread? Are the devs so busy that unable to follow this thread? It's obviously not the case here as the devs delivered nothing in the last 9 weeks, they don't work on the coin (at least do nothing that make sense) and should have time to read the input from investors/community members.

This guy is so desperate to be something -other than Nosker kiss ass pet- in Vericoin, along with getting some money with his silver coin business on the side, that he has appointed himself as some sort of missing link between the community and the stooges. Even though the stooges, as you point out, have not done anything at all but read these boards and post here and on twitter, 99% unnecessarily -and damaging- stuff for 9 weeks.

But, mind you, they are busy: This is an active forum with some long posts by some posters -hint, hint...- and reading all the stuff takes time. And then they have the vacation, the family, those biology papers coming up and the full time job and Mr Softie... It is not that they don't know their faces from their asses, you know? It just lack of time. But there comes the pooch to help with the suggestions...

[barabbas]

Can everyone just Ignore B and stop requoting him , hes like a little kid he likes the attention hes getting If u stop he`ll go away.

Why do you subject yourself to the torture of this forum plagued with requotes of my posts, when you have the oh so comfy veritalk available to you? I PROMISE I will never visit there, what a deal ah?

[altcoinUK]

... so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Why the ideas need to be sent to you instead of write directly to this thread? Are the devs so busy that unable to follow this thread? It's obviously not the case here as the devs delivered nothing in the last 9 weeks, they don't work on the coin (at least do nothing that make sense) and should have time to read the input from investors/community members.

This guy is so desperate to be something -other than Nosker kiss ass pet- in Vericoin, along with getting some money with his silver coin business on the side, that he has appointed himself as some sort of missing link between the community and the stooges. Even though the stooges, as you point out, have not done anything at all but read these boards and post here and on twitter, 99% unnecessarily -and damaging- stuff for 9 weeks.

But, mind you, they are busy: This is an active forum with some long posts by some posters -hint, hint...- and reading all the stuff takes time. And then they have the vacation, the family, those biology papers coming up and the full time job and Mr Softie... It is not that they don't know their faces from their asses, you know? It just lack of time. But there comes the pooch to help with the suggestions...

It seems that's the case.

I hope you will be able to convince the community and the devs to accept and implement your "Good guys" theme. Probably that is the easiest and most sensible solution here (though I don't expect the arrogance of the devs allow such radical change). Good luck with that anyway! :-)

[ereborltc]

barabbas you make it seem like your here to help or something?... if you are I'm confused cause your lack of respect..all your doing is making vericoin look bad in your opinions... so if thats your goal don't expect to succeed cause i don't think anyone wants help from u after your full retard rants...

if your as serious as the books you write and actually do want to help.. why don't u try a different approach ?

sincere question ,try your hardest to not be condescending

[setup]

@altcoinuk @barabbas

It takes a long time till I ignore people, but your personal attacks on people are disgusting.

One last word to altcoinuk: Island, Greenland and most of the scaninavian people are descendants of the Vikings (never been to school?)

you can save your time to reply I won't read it, it's senseless!

[souljah1h]

^ No problem!

Also found this. http://www.blkfeed.com/topic/170/coinsis-business-proposal-and-the-15k-previously-50k-ultimatum

Did Vericoin pay 15k?

I quoted myself for the first time. No answer?

[ozboy2014]

... so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Sh*t .. you guys have a lot of time on ya hands..