[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[altcoinUK]

^ No problem!

Also found this. http://www.blkfeed.com/topic/170/coinsis-business-proposal-and-the-15k-previously-50k-ultimatum

Did Vericoin pay 15k?

I quoted myself for the first time. No answer?

According to the Blackcoin guys vericoin has dropped the idea and not going to roll out the vericoin VISA card.

[ereborltc]

barabbas you make it seem like your here to help or something?... if you are I'm confused cause your lack of respect..all your doing is making vericoin look bad in your opinions... so if thats your goal don't expect to succeed cause i don't think anyone wants help from u after your full retard rants...

if your as serious as the books you write and actually do want to help.. why don't u try a different approach ?

sincere question ,try your hardest to not be condescending

why aren't you on other threads like razor that tanked 110% ..theres got to be a good reason why u put so much effort in trashing vericoin? or cloak that tanked also 130% ?  

again honest serious question

[ereborltc]

^ No problem!

Also found this. http://www.blkfeed.com/topic/170/coinsis-business-proposal-and-the-15k-previously-50k-ultimatum

Did Vericoin pay 15k?

I quoted myself for the first time. No answer?

According to the Blackcoin guys vericoin has dropped the idea and not going to roll out the vericoin VISA card.

i don't think thats true but I'm sure the dev will answer these questions..

[altcoinUK]

... so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Why the ideas need to be sent to you instead of write directly to this thread? Are the devs so busy that unable to follow this thread? It's obviously not the case here as the devs delivered nothing in the last 9 weeks, they don't work on the coin (at least do nothing that make sense) and should have time to read the input from investors/community members.

Spot on mate. I don't like the opaque centralization of power that's taking place with Vericoin.

Take fore example the VRC to Fiat Card. How come insiders (Socal. Poeple who are part of marketing, whoever they maybe?) had access to this announcement well before the rest of the community. No one once said, "look, socal is helping to close this deal" or " 'insert-name' knows the announcement and is preparing the marketing material". I understand the Devs need help but why don't the devs make clear who is helping with what. If these members are going to have elevated roles within Vericoin then you should be transparent about it and put their information on the Vericoin site underneath the developers.

Yeah, it would be nice to have the decentralized sentiment not only on technology but community level as well. As you said, the roles are not clear at all.

[setup]

^ No problem!

Also found this. http://www.blkfeed.com/topic/170/coinsis-business-proposal-and-the-15k-previously-50k-ultimatum

Did Vericoin pay 15k?

I quoted myself for the first time. No answer?

I think only the devs can tell us if its true. I mean they can spend their own money in whatever they want, I wouldn't have done it because coinsis isn't even foundet as it seems. There's not even an impressum on the Website. In my opinion the money would better be invested in Darkmans "juggernaut project".

Regards,
Michael



 

[altcoinUK]

^ No problem!

Also found this. http://www.blkfeed.com/topic/170/coinsis-business-proposal-and-the-15k-previously-50k-ultimatum

Did Vericoin pay 15k?

I quoted myself for the first time. No answer?

According to the Blackcoin guys vericoin has dropped the idea and not going to roll out the vericoin VISA card.

i don't think thats true but I'm sure the dev will answer these questions..

Well, since they did not have the decency to discuss this matter with the community despite Buy4Crypto has been specifically asking for this transparency, I doubt the arrogant devs will discuss anything. You know, they can't discuss it because the NDA. The same NDA allowed for the Blackcoin guys to discuss that with investors/community members.

[ereborltc]

^ No problem!

Also found this. http://www.blkfeed.com/topic/170/coinsis-business-proposal-and-the-15k-previously-50k-ultimatum

Did Vericoin pay 15k?

I quoted myself for the first time. No answer?

I think only the devs can tell us if its true. I mean they can spend their own money in whatever they want, I wouldn't have done it because coinsis isn't even foundet as it seems. There's not even an impressum on the Website. In my opinion the money would better be invested in Darkmans "juggernaut project".

Regards,
Michael



 

you might be right but can't really judge yet ,waiting to hear more about coinsis... remember coinsis I'm sure is mostly focused on btc and very very few altcoins,could be the reason they see the value of the price tag on their service for an altcoin... if thats all even true about how much they asked for or payed.. I'm sure details will come out shortly from somewhere

[buy4crypto]

So if true, Coinsis requires that 15k USD be gained from where? Did this come from the developers pocket? VeriFund? Should the VeriFund be controlled by 3 people, who in secrecy use the funds to make deals with third parties? This must be a troll, because if true, unbelievable! No wonder my attempts to ask for clarity all where ignored. The worst part is, the people who control all the decisions / development funds have proven to be terrible business people.


Does anyone have anything to say to me who has been bashing me as a troll over the past days? This is exactly the type of stuff our community should be fully aware of. From the  minute of this announcement deal I had more questions than answers. I have done all I can do, reasonably, responsibly, without overreaching. If you all don't want to hear the truth, that is fine. Its why I don't continue to beat a dead horse. If others see why, for days I have been looking for clarity, then please step up and demand answers!

[buy4crypto]

i skipped through alll the fud lol VISA MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! woot woot I'm fkn dancing ! this is HUGE news!!! let the haters hate!  we really need a moderated thread now... vericoin is getting really serious now and with all this and VISA, we need a place where the investors can go and get real info without the spam from the regular...

even with news like VISA their still trying to fud bahahahhaha

great job vericoin!!!

here come world!!!

 spread the word!!!

VRC-CC!!!!

Remember this classic post?

"this is HUGE news!!! let the haters hate!"

Remember how you showed such interest in calling me a troll, in how I was just here to FUD. That this was the best thing ever. I can bring up 10's more posts like this for you, from you. Why not continue to cheer the news, like you have been, why not continue to call my last post, and everything else I have done FUD.

Just days ago you said you had your first hater, several times. I suppose you refered to me. Well please, re-read everything and realize you don't mean anything to me, I don't know who you are, don't care. But I have done everything in my power to give you, and others the ability to think for yourself. Hopefully now you realize your "hater" was trying to help you since the minute you spoke up to troll me.

[sluppy]

So if true, Coinsis requires that 15k USD be gained from where? Did this come from the developers pocket? VeriFund? Should the VeriFund be controlled by 3 people, who in secrecy use the funds to make deals with third parties? This must be a troll, because if true, unbelievable! No wonder my attempts to ask for clarity all where ignored. The worst part is, the people who control all the decisions / development funds have proven to be terrible business people.

Can someone from the dev team that Knows how and what happend answer this please ?
I dont want to read what Tom Dick and Harry Think happend just the actual information please Id like to know.

[altcoinUK]

@altcoinuk @barabbas

One last word to altcoinuk: Island, Greenland and most of the scaninavian people are descendants of the Vikings (never been to school?)

The issue here is not my school - the main issue is here that it seems you are still in school. From your idealistic posts I have to assume you are in high school in best case scenario.

Otherwise you would understand that since you praised the enthusiasm of the Vikings, I have pointed out, that the practicality and level headed attitude of the Swiss people is more productive, especially in projects like a crypto currency in which the expertise, logical reasoning and problem solving are more important than shouting hurrah after hurrah for every lame move of the devs. I mean you can shout hurrah in every posts if you like that, but some actual work would help more fore the coin.

[onsightit]

Goood LORD! Three pages of the barabbas / altcoinUK comedy show over night!  I'm officially hitting the ignore button on both of them to save my internet bandwidth.  What a waste...

[ereborltc]

i skipped through alll the fud lol VISA MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! woot woot I'm fkn dancing ! this is HUGE news!!! let the haters hate!  we really need a moderated thread now... vericoin is getting really serious now and with all this and VISA, we need a place where the investors can go and get real info without the spam from the regular...

even with news like VISA their still trying to fud bahahahhaha

great job vericoin!!!

here come world!!!

 spread the word!!!

VRC-CC!!!!

Remember this classic post?

"this is HUGE news!!! let the haters hate!"

Remember how you showed such interest in calling me a troll, in how I was just here to FUD. That this was the best thing ever. I can bring up 10's more posts like this for you, from you. Why not continue to cheer the news, like you have been, why not continue to call my last post, and everything else I have done FUD.

Just days ago you said you had your first hater, several times. I suppose you refered to me. Well please, re-read everything and realize you don't mean anything to me, I don't know who you are, don't care. But I have done everything in my power to give you, and others the ability to think for yourself. Hopefully now you realize your "hater" was trying to help you since the minute you spoke up to troll me.

well from these last two posts you seem like a reasonable person so i don't know why i would say you were fudding unless you being rude and calling us investors/"cheerleaders" a waste of people and senseless posts, yes sometimes i get excited cause i actually like what vericoin does and is about... i am not someone that can help vericoin in any tech way ..im being honest .. all I'm good for is investing in buying vericoin i continue to accumulate and stake.. I'm a day trader but i don't trade vericoin i currently have 16000$ invested...im very busy as i own a jean  manufacturing company and a clothing brand and i also distribute other brands in canada... i will be accepting vericoin on my webshop as soon as its revamped as we speak... i do what i can . which I'm sure u know already since u went through my previous posts

so with that being said if you weren't bashing me calling me a cheerleader i do apologize but i don't apologize for being excited about the visa/coinsis ann because i like and support it if coinsis turns out to be a proper business.

[altcoinUK]

So if true, Coinsis requires that 15k USD be gained from where? Did this come from the developers pocket? VeriFund? Should the VeriFund be controlled by 3 people, who in secrecy use the funds to make deals with third parties? This must be a troll, because if true, unbelievable! No wonder my attempts to ask for clarity all where ignored. The worst part is, the people who control all the decisions / development funds have proven to be terrible business people.


Does anyone have anything to say to me who has been bashing me as a troll over the past days? This is exactly the type of stuff our community should be fully aware of. From the  minute of this announcement deal I had more questions than answers. I have done all I can do, reasonably, responsibly, without overreaching. If you all don't want to hear the truth, that is fine. Its why I don't continue to beat a dead horse. If others see why, for days I have been looking for clarity, then please step up and demand answers!

Nothing to say, because you have asked rational questions and pointed out valid issues, you failed to celebrate the lame move of the devs, therefore you are a troll and a FUDder.
The very few, but loud silver coin makers, IRC scammers (who bought the coin at 500 Sat so can dump slowly even at 9k) and 16-23 years old enthusiastic fans (they have max 10k coin each) made this crypto currency project a cult. The ritual is simple, you need to worship the word of the devs, the cult members can't question the direction and they are happy with the 9k price and basically anything that the devs spit on the market like the lame VISA card idea.

Please continue to post your valuable questions and opinion, so potential investors can see there are reasonable people here, and the very few silver coin maker, IRC scammer, delusional supporter and the attitude that brought the coin to the 9k price is not the majority here.

[setup]

To all the fudders in here: take a look at the roadmap and tell me which other coin offers you such a wide range of features (thx to Socal for doing such a great job with Verinews)

[onsightit]

Goood LORD! Three pages of the barabbas / altcoinUK comedy show over night!  I'm officially hitting the ignore button on both of them to save my internet bandwidth.  What a waste...

Wow... I can see clearly now the fud is gone... gonna be a bright, bright, bright, sun shiny day.

[Kevondo]

So if true, Coinsis requires that 15k USD be gained from where? Did this come from the developers pocket? VeriFund? Should the VeriFund be controlled by 3 people, who in secrecy use the funds to make deals with third parties? This must be a troll, because if true, unbelievable! No wonder my attempts to ask for clarity all where ignored. The worst part is, the people who control all the decisions / development funds have proven to be terrible business people.

Can someone from the dev team that Knows how and what happend answer this please ?
I dont want to read what Tom Dick and Harry Think happend just the actual information please Id like to know.

Effects to Cause is the Dev handling the coinsis project. VeriCoins' agreement is signed.

The deal in place with Coinsis includes a "Non-Disclosure" clause

Effects has mentioned this several times. He can't say anything until coinsis makes their announcments.

The tone of the BC article makes me think BC hasn't "signed" their agreement with Coinsis yet.

If they had ( and had the same deal as VRC) they would  be bound by the same Non-Disclourse restriction.

 One might infer that BC doesn't have a "signed" agreement with Coinsis yet or (if they do) they're violating the "Non-Disclosure Agreement" (NDA)

[effectsToCause]

So if true, Coinsis requires that 15k USD be gained from where? Did this come from the developers pocket? VeriFund? Should the VeriFund be controlled by 3 people, who in secrecy use the funds to make deals with third parties? This must be a troll, because if true, unbelievable! No wonder my attempts to ask for clarity all where ignored. The worst part is, the people who control all the decisions / development funds have proven to be terrible business people.

Can someone from the dev team that Knows how and what happend answer this please ?
I dont want to read what Tom Dick and Harry Think happend just the actual information please Id like to know.

Effects to Cause is the Dev handling the coinsis project. VeriCoins' agreement is signed.

The deal in place with Coinsis includes a "Non-Disclosure" clause

Effects has mentioned this several times. He can't say anythig until coinsis makes their announcments.

The tone of the BC article makes me think BC hasn't "signed" their agreement with Coinsis yet.

If they had ( and had the same deal as VRC) they would  be bound by the same Non-Disclourse restriction.

 One might infer that BC doesn't have a "signed" agreement with Coinsis yet or (if they do) they're violating the "Non-Disclosure Agreement" (NDA)

Thanks Kevondo, this is the current state and I have mentioned it multiple times.  If you are very concerned PM me and I will give as much info as I can, thanks.  We have not used the VeriFund and only would after talking with the community first.

Also it is getting harder and harder for us to keep up to date on every forum post.  If you have concerns that are urgent or pressing please email vericoin@vericoin.info, this forwards to all three devs.  Or pm us here, it's easy to miss a question or comment here, thanks.

[defier]

2 more, novel writers, to add to the ignore list.  Ignoring altcoinuk and buy4crypto shrank the forum page count by 11 pages.
I believe in completely un-moderated forums.  It gives us the choice to see opposing views and occasionally find out important negative information.  

It also leaves with us the responsibility to self censor FUD bots that write volumes of fluff, trying to justify their position.  Some are obvious plants that are FUD fishing.  Trying to get anyone to say anything that can be use against them, regardless if its in or out of context.

FUDders, a bit of advice.  Make your points quickly.  Our eyes glaze over about the 4th line into your paragraph. If you haven't made the point yet?  We've already moved on to the next post.  And lost are your, extravagant long winded, attempts at word smithing.

Keep to the points, and I'll read your posts to see if you have valid argument.  I don't have time to read and reread War and Peace, just to find out over and over, that you still don't like something.

[barabbas]

So if true, Coinsis requires that 15k USD be gained from where? Did this come from the developers pocket? VeriFund? Should the VeriFund be controlled by 3 people, who in secrecy use the funds to make deals with third parties? This must be a troll, because if true, unbelievable! No wonder my attempts to ask for clarity all where ignored. The worst part is, the people who control all the decisions / development funds have proven to be terrible business people.

Can someone from the dev team that Knows how and what happend answer this please ?
I dont want to read what Tom Dick and Harry Think happend just the actual information please Id like to know.

Effects to Cause is the Dev handling the coinsis project. VeriCoins' agreement is signed.

The deal in place with Coinsis includes a "Non-Disclosure" clause

Effects has mentioned this several times. He can't say anythig until coinsis makes their announcments.

The tone of the BC article makes me think BC hasn't "signed" their agreement with Coinsis yet.

If they had ( and had the same deal as VRC) they would  be bound by the same Non-Disclourse restriction.

 One might infer that BC doesn't have a "signed" agreement with Coinsis yet or (if they do) they're violating the "Non-Disclosure Agreement" (NDA)

Thanks Kevondo, this is the current state and I have mentioned it multiple times.  If you are very concerned PM me and I will give as much info as I can, thanks.  We have not used the VeriFund and only would after talking with the community first.

Also it is getting harder and harder for us to keep up to date on every forum post.  If you have concerns that are urgent or pressing please email vericoin@vericoin.info, this forwards to all three devs.  Or pm us here, it's easy to miss a question or comment here, thanks.

Once again, the evidence shows the reality of things: We have two children (the third doesn't even seem to interfere in these types of things), leading this.
I can only imagine the expert salespeople of Coinsis handling these two in their conversations... but hey, what do you expect? Let's be real.

Once again, first of all, the Visa deal is not even a deal worth mentioning on any level for it is something of no significance whatsoever, therefore it should have been mentioned only at the time where implementation would be only pending majority approval by the stakeholders (that would be US, the owners of the coin). If, as it seems, Nosker was so compelled to mention it for the purpose of hyping (as everyone knows I am ALL for "hyping" -creating momentum, actually-), there wouldn't have been any NDA violation simply stating that VRC was in active discussion for a credit card company to include it in it's rooster of clients. Truth, no details, and same hype... only with people in the forums -people like me and others- clarifying pros and cons long before vote submissions.

Instead, the band that can't shoot straight, makes the announcement several months before it can be implemented, with a company that no one knows and, apparently, at a cost no one will ever be willing to pay -because it isn't worth it not even remotely-. Wow, not only children running the ship but not the sharpest children you could find.

In any event, as stated above, this deal will probably never materialize. If it does will be yet another negative for Vericoin for no one will use it and, above all, it isn't anything different -only bigger fees and payment in advance-, from the link to Moolah in the wallet... only a portable link in plastic. To even dedicate two minutes to think, let alone discuss it, is just a total waste of time.