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February 18, 2017, 12:38:17 PM
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Aeon is the Monero Litecoin

Dont know if its a good thing

Do you guys have a Slack or Telegram group?
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February 18, 2017, 02:30:26 PM
Last edit: February 18, 2017, 02:46:10 PM by adhitthana
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Smooth's response on this issue:

  AEON's solution addresses the problem identified in MRL-0001. By allowing only one 0-mix transaction per block (when there can, and will assuming AEON becomes a "global standard", be many txs per block), the average ring size will be high enough to ensure that any attacker's existing known output set (the attack discussed) "burns out". MRL-0001 is also overly conservative in its calculations as it does not consider that outputs are currently chosen using a triangular distribution (favoring the new "burned out" outputs) as this was added after MRL-0001 was written. Given the combined effect the "burn out" will occur at an even faster rate for a given average ring size than is shown on the chart n the paper.
The possible attack is then reduced to an ongoing Sybil attack where (unlike a situation where there is a high number of 0- and 1- mix transactions) the attacker must incur an ongoing cost to create more and more new outputs. This is essentially the same situation as banning 0-mix altogether except that the average ring size will be slightly smaller and therefore the burn out rate also slightly slower.
I do not believe we need to remove 0-mix transactions altogether and I also believe we can further improve things to expand their use in a safe manner which will bring most of the benefits of what you describe as the clear note protocol without dropping larger ring sigs altogether. Done right the two can coexist.



And in plain English? In a sentence
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February 19, 2017, 12:29:32 AM
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Here is some info on the differences:
http://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1393/what-is-the-aeon-currency

Highlights:
4 minute block time
a lighter variant of the Cryptonight PoW
0 mixin transactions will be allowed

Thank you for the reply. What I really want to know is how is the lighter variant of the Cryptonight proof of work different from the regular and normal variant? Is it more energy efficient?

I also want to know how long will smooth stay with Aeon as lead developer?

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February 19, 2017, 02:16:55 AM
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Here is some info on the differences:
http://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1393/what-is-the-aeon-currency

Highlights:
4 minute block time
a lighter variant of the Cryptonight PoW
0 mixin transactions will be allowed

Thank you for the reply. What I really want to know is how is the lighter variant of the Cryptonight proof of work different from the regular and normal variant? Is it more energy efficient?

I also want to know how long will smooth stay with Aeon as lead developer?

I think the difference between cryptonight and cryptonight-lite is that the former uses a 2 MB scratchpad while the latter uses a 1 MB scratchpad, so this makes it easier to mine on slightly crappier CPUs (with smaller cache) and more theoretically possible on mobile devices, I think.
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February 19, 2017, 08:21:38 AM
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I also want to know how long will smooth stay with Aeon as lead developer?

I'm not going anywhere

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What I really want to know is how is the lighter variant of the Cryptonight proof of work different from the regular and normal variant? Is it more energy efficient?

The previous reply about mining was correct but it also makes a huge difference on verification, both power usage and processing speed. So syncing a node or a lightweight wallet (which doesn't exist, but maybe someday) on low-powered devices is much more efficient.


Smooth's response on this issue:


And in plain English? In a sentence

0-mix transactions, with suitable restrictions on use (as AEON has), do not cause any serious problems, and make AEON more useful.

Do you guys have a Slack or Telegram group?

I think there is, as I see people in the IRC channel being gatewayed. I don't know the details of how to sign up for those though (but if someone wants to provide that info, I can add it to the OP).
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February 20, 2017, 12:35:22 AM
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@smooth. Thank you for replying at every question meticulously. It is good to know that you are not going away from the project. Are the other Monero developers like fluffypony helping out? Aeon could be the future of proof of work if you are able to create an efficient full node that will run on old computers and smart phones. Maybe the next step is to have an efficient POW platform with smart contract capabilities.

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February 23, 2017, 11:40:04 PM
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@smooth. Thank you for replying at every question meticulously. It is good to know that you are not going away from the project. Are the other Monero developers like fluffypony helping out? Aeon could be the future of proof of work if you are able to create an efficient full node that will run on old computers and smart phones. Maybe the next step is to have an efficient POW platform with smart contract capabilities.

I'm part of the Monero core team. There is no official connection between the projects but in practice we cooperate on solving problems and moving forward with development on both.
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February 23, 2017, 11:42:00 PM
Last edit: February 25, 2017, 12:29:02 PM by smooth
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Important upgrade Phoenix (0.9.7.1)

This is a necessary point release of AEON Phoenix and is a strongly, strongly recommended update.

Includes preliminary code for support for ringct (not yet functional or enabled)
Include upstream fixes
Performance improvement on non-Intel platforms

Known issue: coretests (and possibly other unit tests) fails to compile, as was the case in previous versions. This can be safely ignored. As long as a non-parallel build is used (do NOT use make -j), this error will occur after the wallet and daemon binaries are already built.

There no binaries yet. Windows binaries will be added ASAP. Community-supported binaries from trusted community members are welcome.

https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/releases/tag/v0.9.7.1
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February 24, 2017, 02:00:28 PM
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How large is the blockchain of this coin and how hard is it to use the CLI? I'm not used to the command line but I know I can learn it with a little guidance from the aeon community.

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February 25, 2017, 05:32:38 AM
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How large is the blockchain of this coin and how hard is it to use the CLI? I'm not used to the command line but I know I can learn it with a little guidance from the aeon community.

The blockchain is about 4 GB on disk. There is an experimental pruned version that runs smaller.

As far as the CLI, I guess different people have different views on it. I find commands like transfer, balance, etc. to be pretty easy to handle.
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February 25, 2017, 02:20:43 PM
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Which wallet can I use to store this coin?
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February 25, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
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How to get this coin in solo?
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February 25, 2017, 03:35:44 PM
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How to get this coin in solo?

If you want to solo mine you need the daemon then you can start with:

./aeond --start-mining {your-address} --mining-threads {number-of-threads}

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February 25, 2017, 04:11:38 PM
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How to get this coin in solo?

If you want to solo mine you need the daemon then you can start with:

./aeond --start-mining {your-address} --mining-threads {number-of-threads}


And how through this miner aeon_gpu_miner what configuration?
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February 25, 2017, 04:36:42 PM
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How to get this coin in solo?

If you want to solo mine you need the daemon then you can start with:

./aeond --start-mining {your-address} --mining-threads {number-of-threads}


And how through this miner aeon_gpu_miner what configuration?

I don't think there is a way to solo mine with a GPU unless you set up your own pool.
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February 25, 2017, 05:25:32 PM
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February 25, 2017, 05:39:31 PM
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Important upgrade Phoenix (0.9.7.1)

This is a necessary point release of AEON Phoenix and is a strongly, strongly recommended update.

Includes preliminary code for support for ringct (not yet functional or enabled)
Include upstream fixes
Performance improvement on non-Intel platforms

Known issue: coretests (and possibly other unit tests) fails to compile, as was the case in previous versions. This can be safely ignored. As long as a non-parallel build is used (do NOT use make -j), this error will occur after the wallet and daemon binaries are already built.

There no binaries yet. Windows binaries will be added ASAP. Community-supported binaries from trusted community members are welcome.

https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/releases/tag/v0.9.7.1

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February 25, 2017, 06:33:40 PM
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Important upgrade Phoenix (0.9.7.1)

This is a necessary point release of AEON Phoenix and is a strongly, strongly recommended update.

Includes preliminary code for support for ringct (not yet functional or enabled)
Include upstream fixes
Performance improvement on non-Intel platforms

Known issue: coretests (and possibly other unit tests) fails to compile, as was the case in previous versions. This can be safely ignored. As long as a non-parallel build is used (do NOT use make -j), this error will occur after the wallet and daemon binaries are already built.

There no binaries yet. Windows binaries will be added ASAP. Community-supported binaries from trusted community members are welcome.

https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/releases/tag/v0.9.7.1

wallet for win?

It is being built and tested and will be uploaded soon.
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February 25, 2017, 10:41:42 PM
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I was trying to build Aeon 0.9.7.1 today on macOS (10.12.3), but I am getting a warning at 25% for "skein.c.o", and next an error at 26% for "slow-hash.c.o". This is on a Mac with Haswell CPU.

Details posted at http://pastebin.com/ATJNgpSP.

FYI, I built the previous release on macOS using brew, so I can't compare. Any ideas?
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I was trying to build Aeon 0.9.7.1 today on macOS (10.12.3), but I am getting a warning at 25% for "skein.c.o", and next an error at 26% for "slow-hash.c.o". This is on a Mac with Haswell CPU.

Details posted at http://pastebin.com/ATJNgpSP.

FYI, I built the previous release on macOS using brew, so I can't compare. Any ideas?

Try to clone master and build it, must be ok. Reply if it works or not.

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