[XMR] Monero Speculation

[dEBRUYNE]

Riccardo "Fluffypony" Spagni will speak at the Bitcoin meetup in Johannesburg upcoming Tuesday (June 14):

http://www.meetup.com/The-Johannesburg-Bitcoin-Company/events/231740417/

[CTTE]

It appears that Poloniex has added a couple of ETH trading pairs!!! No ETH/XMR yet.

[Hueristic]

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It seems i misunderstood something.
When they say that none of customers founds was lost i not sure why understand it as in general.

Too bad, I hoped they caught the prick. What did you think of the article I linked?


AFA Eth pair, it was inevitable but i'm not sure it is a good thing. I still see Eth as being a scam, it's just gotten enough dupes to make it a long one. But then again so was drk and it still limps along.

[iCEBREAKER]

Where can you buy non-trivial amounts of anything at all without slippage?

You can't, because "non-trivial" is best (IE objectively) defined as an amount which causes slippage.

Circular logic FTW   

[r0ach]

Where can you buy non-trivial amounts of anything at all without slippage?

You can't, because "non-trivial" is best (IE objectively) defined as an amount which causes slippage.

Circular logic FTW   

You can technically buy lots of "The DOA" right now without slippage, not that anyone would want to.

[iCEBREAKER]

Sophism lives in Monero community!

Socrates would be sad 

I am out. Community sucks, with some bright exceptions.

Zcash will teach you a lesson I suppose.

For those interested (and I have many people in my team that like XMR) I still cover this coin because TA is TA.
If I see an opportunity in XMR I will advise everyone to buy.

Currently the guideline is to not touch this unless it gets ridiculously oversold (50-75k) because from TA PoV (performance, relative strength to ETH, LSK etc), liquidity, whale manipulation etc etc SUCKS!

Keep holding your bags as 'investors' lol

Oh nice.  I love seeing unconditional capitulation like this.

BULLISH!   

Did you dump Because Offended yet?  Please surrender your precious XMR to stronger hands ASAP, so some good may come of your Hearnia and whiny ragequit.




Zcash?

LOL

Have fun with your tea leaves and momo play time!   

[sandiman]

Sophism lives in Monero community!

Socrates would be sad 

I am out. Community sucks, with some bright exceptions.

Zcash will teach you a lesson I suppose.

For those interested (and I have many people in my team that like XMR) I still cover this coin because TA is TA.
If I see an opportunity in XMR I will advise everyone to buy.

Currently the guideline is to not touch this unless it gets ridiculously oversold (50-75k) because from TA PoV (performance, relative strength to ETH, LSK etc), liquidity, whale manipulation etc etc SUCKS!

Keep holding your bags as 'investors' lol

Oh nice.  I love seeing unconditional capitulation like this.

BULLISH!   

Did you dump Because Offended yet?  Please surrender your precious XMR to stronger hands ASAP, so some good may come of your Hearnia and whiny ragequit.

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Zcash?

LOL

Have fun with your tea leaves and momo play time!   

That was too much you gave him a point

[DaveyJones]

Sounding like an asshole proofs his points... can we atleast argue as adults?

[iCEBREAKER]

[honest reaction to unnecessarily dramatic Goodbye Cruel World self-pity party]

Sounding like an asshole proofs his points... can we atleast argue as adults?

As adults, we are obligated to give our friends a hard time when they do silly/obnoxious stuff like having Hearnias and making whiny rage quit posts.

You want me to treat him like a child and use soft, soothing tones to avoid melting his delicately beautiful snowflake crystals?

I give klee more credit than that, and assume he (a senior Bitcointalker) has skin thick enough to roll with some playful fisticuffs.

By white knighting for klee, you imply he lacks agency and thus treat him as your ward (IE, a child or invalid).

[DaveyJones]

[honest reaction to unnecessarily dramatic Goodbye Cruel World self-pity party]

Sounding like an asshole proofs his points... can we atleast argue as adults?

As adults, we are obligated to give our friends a hard time when they do silly/obnoxious stuff like having Hearnias and making whiny rage quit posts.

You want me to treat him like a child and use soft, soothing tones to avoid melting his delicately beautiful snowflake crystals?

I give klee more credit than that, and assume he (a senior Bitcointalker) has skin thick enough to roll with some playful fisticuffs.

By white knighting for klee, you imply he lacks agency and thus treat him as your ward (IE, a child or invalid).

I never said you should talk soft with him, neither did i white knight him.

What i said was that YOU may talk like an adult or grown up person. This is a discussion forum not a hangout with your RL buddies who you can call names whenever you like.

[MoneroMooo]

I agree with DaveyJones. The constant stridency has got old ages ago already.

[iCEBREAKER]

This is a discussion forum not a hangout with your RL buddies who you can call names whenever you like.

You must be new here.

Welcome to  B I T C O I N T A L K !

I agree with DaveyJones. The constant stridency has got old ages ago already.

Only klee is allowed to be strident, as he makes whiny rage quit posts; nobody should respond in kind.

OK, got it.  

EDIT:  Klee is a victim of Voorhee's fake censorship martyr story.  He retweeted https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/740590787843358720 but not the retraction and apology.

IOW, Klee was agitated by Voorhee's propaganda.  No wonder he was a bit sandy and salty today.  

[rdnkjdi]

http://www.news9.com/story/32168555/ohp-uses-new-device-to-seize-money-used-during-the-commission-of-a-crime

Interesting read ...

[iCEBREAKER]

http://www.news9.com/story/32168555/ohp-uses-new-device-to-seize-money-used-during-the-commission-of-a-crime

Interesting read ...

Stealing from a traveler far away from their home and support network is different than stealing from a neighbor you know can afford it.

That's why the traditional penalty for horse thieves and highwaymen is the same - death by hanging or firing squad.

And if they want to harden their approach, justice will reach out and find softer targets.

[dEBRUYNE]

"LE36: Roger Ver and Erik Voorhees – Scaling Debate and the Future of Bitcoin" - Monero Mentioned at 29:20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiePk91w6pM#t=29m20s

[americanpegasus]

Nothing has changed too much - Monero is still the only totally viable crypto project I know of.  
  
A few semi-viable, pretty-good-honesty/launch blockchains have sprung up in recent months that are worth your time to investigate: SIA and IOC come to mind.  But mostly it's all scam nonsense.  
  
Bitcoin is archaic and getting older by the day: you can plug as much shit as you want onto the Sega Genesis (32x, CD drive), in the end it will fall to the Sony PlayStation.  
  
ZCash (the equivalent of the 3DO) has done nothing to address its technical issues, and has in fact added a host of social issues (backed by a company with a premine) which make it double-damaged.  
  
Monero will win: it's a foregone conclusion based on facts and logic.  The world can stay irrational for a while longer and go gaga for fluffy and flawed bullshit like Ethereum but reality will eventually catch up.

[ArticMine]

"LE36: Roger Ver and Erik Voorhees – Scaling Debate and the Future of Bitcoin" - Monero Mentioned at 29:20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiePk91w6pM#t=29m20s

... but did they connect the dots between Bitcoin's in ability to scale and Monero? The small block crowd also have a very valid point, when the block subsidy ends the coin becomes insecure. Bytecoin with its adaptive blocksize limit and no tail emission may well prove the small block crowd right. 

[LiberOptions]

I like XMR and all the goals the project is trying to achieve. And so I have bought a third of Bitcoin a few months ago. Unfortunately it dropped and now I need to go up. Do you guys think that it can go up to 4 bitmills again=?

I sure hope so...

[owlcatz]

I like XMR and all the goals the project is trying to achieve. And so I have bought a third of Bitcoin a few months ago. Unfortunately it dropped and now I need to go up. Do you guys think that it can go up to 4 bitmills again=?

I sure hope so...

You have to be long on XMR. It's not going to magically increase. I was a long time bagholder until I finally just got out right before the BTC increase, so I did ok, but probably not in the long haul, who knows, I just felt better doing it... It's a hard coin to hold long term. But, I do believe, it will pay off which is why I just grabbed 1k on Polo, this way I don't feel so exposed to the massive swings this coin has and will likely continue to take. On the other hand, it's also fun to be a large holder, you can watch the value of your holdings swing hundreds of dollars in literally minutes. Just like bitcoins can swing 1000's of USD when you own 100's of them!  

[americanpegasus]

"LE36: Roger Ver and Erik Voorhees – Scaling Debate and the Future of Bitcoin" - Monero Mentioned at 29:20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiePk91w6pM#t=29m20s

... but did they connect the dots between Bitcoin's in ability to scale and Monero? The small block crowd also have a very valid point, when the block subsidy ends the coin becomes insecure. Bytecoin with its adaptive blocksize limit and no tail emission may well prove the small block crowd right. 

I mentioned to them on Reddit that they need to stop looking at Monero as an altcoin and start seeing it as the fulfillment of the original Bitcoin vision.  Feel free to chime in:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4n5tlo/le36_roger_ver_and_erik_voorhees_scaling_debate/d41i1or