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October 21, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
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According to "Bitmain employee of the Year" dogie in his updated "no conflict of interest here" manufacturer trustworthiness guide - these are classed as "minor" problems, so obviously they are not too bothered about it. Their "please wait patiently" phrase is one of their favourites, ask any S2 owner, they've been "waiting patiently" for 9 weeks now......and still nothing  Roll Eyes
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October 21, 2014, 08:17:45 PM
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According to "Bitmain employee of the Year" dogie in his updated "no conflict of interest here" manufacturer trustworthiness guide - these are classed as "minor" problems, so obviously they are not too bothered about it. Their "please wait patiently" phrase is one of their favourites, ask any S2 owner, they've been "waiting patiently" for 9 weeks now......and still nothing  Roll Eyes

dogie is an employee of Bitmain and there is a conflict of interest in conscious or unconscious level.
So, dogie statement should be considered as Bitmain's even if he is not agreeing that there is no conflict of interest.
It's already evident in his messages.


Wrong thread.
This company's rating has been updated in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread.

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Wrong thread.

Its hard to properly rate a company that is paying you

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October 21, 2014, 09:13:17 PM
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So does this appear in line with what others are getting in terms of accepted vs. discarded?
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October 21, 2014, 09:37:49 PM
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For the people that got their new PSU or if it's on the way, did Bitmain send you a tracking number for their new PSU?

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October 22, 2014, 01:08:31 AM
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So does this appear in line with what others are getting in terms of accepted vs. discarded?
My accepted/discards ratio is also showing very high discards compared to every other miner I have. Normally Accepted outpaces discards by 2:1 give or take. With the s4 the discards are massively x more than accepted. But, as long as the pools are happy, whatever...

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October 22, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
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So does this appear in line with what others are getting in terms of accepted vs. discarded?
My accepted/discards ratio is also showing very high discards compared to every other miner I have. Normally Accepted outpaces discards by 2:1 give or take. With the s4 the discards are massively x more than accepted. But, as long as the pools are happy, whatever...

Discards mean nothing, people need to stop looking at them.

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October 22, 2014, 01:32:29 AM
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So does this appear in line with what others are getting in terms of accepted vs. discarded?
My accepted/discards ratio is also showing very high discards compared to every other miner I have. Normally Accepted outpaces discards by 2:1 give or take. With the s4 the discards are massively x more than accepted. But, as long as the pools are happy, whatever...

Discards mean nothing, people need to stop looking at them.

I appreciate your guides and if this comment was in a different thread, it'd hold some weight with me.  I also appreciate you disclosing your paid status with Bitmain.  The community has been hurt too much from shills/shysters, poor manufacturers etc.  There's very little trust left for paid representatives. I hope you understand and there's no intentional ill will, but my opinion of your posts in this thread are marginal at best. Obviously YMMV.
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October 22, 2014, 01:36:13 AM
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Thank you so much for the time you've invested to make the S4 more funtional, ckolivas. I'm going to send you a donation tomorrow morning.

I'd like to try ck's new version tomorrow, but I have no idea how to go about updating cgminer. Can anyone shed some light, or point me towards a guide?
Assuming your S4's IP address was say 192.168.1.99:

Code:
ssh -l root 192.168.1.99 (or equivalent with putty)
wget http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s4/4.6.1-141018/cgminer
mv /usr/bin/cgminer /usr/bin/cgminer.bak
chmod +x cgminer
mv cgminer /usr/bin/cgminer
/etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart

I think that might not keep across a power cycle though.

You were right, the changes don't stick across a power cycle. Is there any way to make them permanent?
Ditto. Anyway to make the new binary stick? I see Bitmain removed the tab for tinkering with the individual 'ux programs. Don't want to have to get more always-on-line UPS's for them...

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October 22, 2014, 02:15:05 AM
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According to "Bitmain employee of the Year" dogie in his updated "no conflict of interest here" manufacturer trustworthiness guide - these are classed as "minor" problems, so obviously they are not too bothered about it. Their "please wait patiently" phrase is one of their favourites, ask any S2 owner, they've been "waiting patiently" for 9 weeks now......and still nothing  Roll Eyes

dogie is an employee of Bitmain and there is a conflict of interest in conscious or unconscious level.
So, dogie statement should be considered as Bitmain's even if he is not agreeing that there is no conflict of interest.
It's already evident in his messages.


Wrong thread.
This company's rating has been updated in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread.

[This message won't be monitored, discuss your concerns in the thread.]

Wrong thread.

Its hard to properly rate a company that is paying you

So this is the proof for what I said, the unconscious work of inner mind.
He's trying to find other mistakes without knowing that he fired it.
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October 22, 2014, 03:01:41 AM
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Its hard to properly rate a company that is paying you
But dogie promised to be objective, doesn't he?

Maybe breaking the promises is new Bitmain's tradition...  Sad

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October 22, 2014, 03:28:12 AM
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Have my AntMiner S4 on 0.725V and 225M frequency running perfectly:
http://i.imgur.com/3UpvBY5.jpg
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October 22, 2014, 03:28:43 AM
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Let's keep the topic focused on Antminer S4 support. If you want to hammer Dogie, should do it in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread of his.

So far, the Bitmain compensation is ok and I'm not sure what other company would do this. Yes this is what SHOULD Be done and we're entitled to it but what other manufacturer has such ethics?
Bitmain has agreed to compensate my kaboom S4 despite me having my PSU failed shortly after the announcement. I will keep everyone posted on how this goes.

Anybody has any experience of Antminer S4 on P2Pool? I just started pointing it to my P2Pool node. Seems ok so far with the locked difficulty.

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October 22, 2014, 05:55:15 AM
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Have my AntMiner S4 on 0.725V and 225M frequency running perfectly:
http://i.imgur.com/3UpvBY5.jpg

Nice, howlong they have been uptime till no error ?
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October 22, 2014, 06:49:44 AM
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I also run 225, and have had zero issues. Longest uptime so far would be about ~3 days on my first batch S4, but it's PSU is kaput. This is my batch 2 S4, no issues running 225 either since I received it:



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October 22, 2014, 08:26:34 AM
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My accepted/discards ratio is also showing very high discards compared to every other miner I have. Normally Accepted outpaces discards by 2:1 give or take. With the s4 the discards are massively x more than accepted. But, as long as the pools are happy, whatever...

Discards mean nothing, people need to stop looking at them.

I appreciate your guides and if this comment was in a different thread, it'd hold some weight with me.  I also appreciate you disclosing your paid status with Bitmain.  The community has been hurt too much from shills/shysters, poor manufacturers etc.  There's very little trust left for paid representatives. I hope you understand and there's no intentional ill will, but my opinion of your posts in this thread are marginal at best. Obviously YMMV.

Maybe if I quote ck people will believe me... the same message applies to ALL hardware, discards are meaningless.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709503.msg8018688#msg8018688

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October 22, 2014, 12:35:11 PM
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My accepted/discards ratio is also showing very high discards compared to every other miner I have. Normally Accepted outpaces discards by 2:1 give or take. With the s4 the discards are massively x more than accepted. But, as long as the pools are happy, whatever...

Discards mean nothing, people need to stop looking at them.

I appreciate your guides and if this comment was in a different thread, it'd hold some weight with me.  I also appreciate you disclosing your paid status with Bitmain.  The community has been hurt too much from shills/shysters, poor manufacturers etc.  There's very little trust left for paid representatives. I hope you understand and there's no intentional ill will, but my opinion of your posts in this thread are marginal at best. Obviously YMMV.

Maybe if I quote ck people will believe me... the same message applies to ALL hardware, discards are meaningless.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709503.msg8018688#msg8018688
Works for me, like I said if the Pools don't care we shouldn't either.
I *am* curious what they are. Shares/data too small to process? Gonna have to look that up

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October 22, 2014, 01:10:55 PM
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So does this appear in line with what others are getting in terms of accepted vs. discarded?
My accepted/discards ratio is also showing very high discards compared to every other miner I have. Normally Accepted outpaces discards by 2:1 give or take. With the s4 the discards are massively x more than accepted. But, as long as the pools are happy, whatever...

Discards mean nothing, people need to stop looking at them.

I appreciate your guides and if this comment was in a different thread, it'd hold some weight with me.  I also appreciate you disclosing your paid status with Bitmain.  The community has been hurt too much from shills/shysters, poor manufacturers etc.  There's very little trust left for paid representatives. I hope you understand and there's no intentional ill will, but my opinion of your posts in this thread are marginal at best. Obviously YMMV.

For what it's worth the developer of CGminer has commented on the Discards, he also said it is a number that should not matter and questions why they added it to the GUI .

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October 22, 2014, 01:14:10 PM
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Let's keep the topic focused on Antminer S4 support. If you want to hammer Dogie, should do it in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread of his.

So far, the Bitmain compensation is ok and I'm not sure what other company would do this. Yes this is what SHOULD Be done and we're entitled to it but what other manufacturer has such ethics?
Bitmain has agreed to compensate my kaboom S4 despite me having my PSU failed shortly after the announcement. I will keep everyone posted on how this goes.

Anybody has any experience of Antminer S4 on P2Pool? I just started pointing it to my P2Pool node. Seems ok so far with the locked difficulty.


Lets not celebrate yet… I still have a dead S4 dead PSU and no 10 day mining compensation, going on 14 days …… last email from bitmain was basically " check is in the mail " Still have seen nothing ...

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October 22, 2014, 06:02:52 PM
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Let's keep the topic focused on Antminer S4 support. If you want to hammer Dogie, should do it in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread of his.

So far, the Bitmain compensation is ok and I'm not sure what other company would do this. Yes this is what SHOULD Be done and we're entitled to it but what other manufacturer has such ethics?
Bitmain has agreed to compensate my kaboom S4 despite me having my PSU failed shortly after the announcement. I will keep everyone posted on how this goes.

Anybody has any experience of Antminer S4 on P2Pool? I just started pointing it to my P2Pool node. Seems ok so far with the locked difficulty.


Lets not celebrate yet… I still have a dead S4 dead PSU and no 10 day mining compensation, going on 14 days …… last email from bitmain was basically " check is in the mail " Still have seen nothing ...

update, Just got a confirmation …

On Oct 22, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Bitmain Tech <info@bitmaintech.com> wrote:

Hi,
Tracking number for the one good replacement is UPS: #ZR#####D#########, We'll ship out the other two PSU ASAP.
don't drop the original PSU immediately, we may arrange the PSU returned to us later.
Thanks in advance.

Best Regards

BITMAIN


So I guess I'm still on pins and needles with my other two units, and still no word on their "10 day mining refund" going on 14 days, and I suspect it will take up to 5 days for the PSU to get here.

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Let's keep the topic focused on Antminer S4 support. If you want to hammer Dogie, should do it in the Manufacturer Trustworthiness thread of his.

So far, the Bitmain compensation is ok and I'm not sure what other company would do this. Yes this is what SHOULD Be done and we're entitled to it but what other manufacturer has such ethics?
Bitmain has agreed to compensate my kaboom S4 despite me having my PSU failed shortly after the announcement. I will keep everyone posted on how this goes.

Anybody has any experience of Antminer S4 on P2Pool? I just started pointing it to my P2Pool node. Seems ok so far with the locked difficulty.


Lets not celebrate yet… I still have a dead S4 dead PSU and no 10 day mining compensation, going on 14 days …… last email from bitmain was basically " check is in the mail " Still have seen nothing ...

update, Just got a confirmation …

On Oct 22, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Bitmain Tech <info@bitmaintech.com> wrote:

Hi,
Tracking number for the one good replacement is UPS: #ZR#####D#########, We'll ship out the other two PSU ASAP.
don't drop the original PSU immediately, we may arrange the PSU returned to us later.
Thanks in advance.

Best Regards

BITMAIN


So I guess I'm still on pins and needles with my other two units, and still no word on their "10 day mining refund" going on 14 days, and I suspect it will take up to 5 days for the PSU to get here.


So you're waiting for 3 PSU's? Why the hell don't they ship all 3 at the same time Huh Roll Eyes

I'm sooooo glad I held back on the S4, what a balls-up it is......

With regards to your p2pool question, ckolivas has compiled a working cgminer version for the S4 & p2pool - I hear it works well:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg9244053#msg9244053

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