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But my real point is not to argue about opinion. I genuinley want to know what are the original pure new codes cause I feel like new coins are coming out at the moment but I can't see what is new and innovative and what is recycled from other coins. Just a heads-up: you'd better watch it. There are lots of people like you - I'm one of them - who want to spend their BTC to encourage new tech in this space. Several scammers know this, and tailor their scam-pitches accordingly. The most notorious around here was a scam called Stackcoin, although the feller behind Edgecoin edged out Stackcoin in the BTC department. If I were you, I'd stick to established next-gen coins for now. There'll be more IPCOs, some of which will have pure-new-code claims, several months from now: there always has been and there always will be. You do have time to get the lay of the land before exposing yourself to being scammed. Confession: I lost 0.4 BTC in the Edgecoin heist: more than $200, or the price of a good set of running shoes. Here's what I've done to lessen my risk: - I spent several hours going through the threads of the most notorious scams - meaning, all of the comments therein - to look for red flags. - I don't throw that much into an IPCO. Rather than dream of retiring in the backwoods or Bermuda, I dream of yielding the price of a top-of-the-line gaming rig or thereabouts. Controlling my get-rich-quick fantasies controls my amount risked. - I write off all IPCO investments as spends. That way, I don't shoot my blood pressure up if I lose what I've spent. I also spent some time getting the general lay of the land 'round here before plunging in. That includes sticking to an established 2.0 coin. In my case, it's Nxt. I've been suckered into a few scam coins, It a learning experience. I was dumb enough to invest in Neoncoin and Promethium. But I only risk what I can lose. Escrow is the big lesson for me. Actually Qora is the first decent IPO I bought it on that hasn't been a scam! Apart from NXTL and NEM that is. |
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I thought Emunie was designed that it didn't skyrocket actually. To increase in value for sure but I think the plan is for a stable currency rather than a rapidly deflating one.
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Thx, do you know any others to add to the list?
isn't Etherium built on top of Bitcoin? It doesn't mean its not innovative, I guess I'm just trying to divide what 'Species' coins go into.
I find it strange you shy away from Ripple but not Etherieum. They are both big funded projects with suspicious involvement in Etherieum of big banks and deriveratives which is kind of what Bitcoin was a response to.
I'm very experienced with Ripple, I personally hate it after being fairly positive. The idea of trust with Ripple makes it a pain in the ass to use. ie you cant just have bitcoin in your wallet, you have Peercover Bitcoin or Cryptsy Bitcoin, you don't own anything you kind of trust each other for everything. Saying that I wonder if Ripple's big thing is that a bank or someone builds ontop of it and makes it user friendly for the masses.
Qora and Exo coin are brand new, I guess the new innovations on the block. I got a few bitcoin stake in Qora but I admit the jury is still out on if either of these will be winners or not.
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I would say: 33% Qora 33% Numus 33% Edge.
Oh wait...why split for scams, doesn´t matter which one....
-Qora exists and is a brand new code (that is significant) and has a beta wallet. -Numus is almost certainly a scam and no coin exists. -Edge coin also doesn't exist and the 'developer' has disappeared with the money. How are they not different, imaginary coins to steal money from people and a newly coded coin? don't you mind looking stupid? I wish people wouldn't use the word scam in such a blanket ignorant way, its become shorthand for hey look at me I'm a dipshit. |
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Yeah there is gonna be a lot of overlap in functions because its what people want. There are different brands of car with the same functions but ultimately a Porche is not a Ford, Apple is not a PC....etc
Yeah I think Darkcoin definetly brings a great function to crypto. But possibly other coins and systems can can the function later. I don't discount it but one killer function might not make a complete system like say NXT deos with decentralized trading for example.
But my real point is not to argue about opinion. I genuinley want to know what are the original pure new codes cause I feel like new coins are coming out at the moment but I can't see what is new and innovative and what is recycled from other coins. There is a bigger argument about what is the best coins and many might be original coins built upon like Master Coin I just want to first try to have a list of originals so I don't miss IPO's going on that are worth a bet on.
The real issue is a million threads on IPO's and I haven't got the time to read all of them.
I might suggest a coin needing to distinguish it's self from another coin before being posted here, but I'm not an admin or anything. Still fairly new here. Yeah not sure what you mean. I think you can divide coins up in many ways but my point is what is actually different in practical code sense. This is more a factual thing than a subjective thing. NXT core code is not the same as Bitcoin code, Ripple is not the same as Bitcoin, etc etc.. |
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Investing on the belief that the value of the investment may go up significantly doesn't necessarily mean it is "pump and dump" (even if 90% of the altcoin threads basically are this).
Apart from random speculation, my interests in this are:
- The code base/architecture upon which Qora is being built may turn out to be more flexible for future developments than Nxt, even if the plans at launch offer no concrete advantages
- The stewardship of the Nxt codebase appears fine now, but who knows what it will be like in 12 months
- A fatal flaw might be found in Nxt and all its (near-)copycats. Even if independently developed coins like Qora have no unique features at present, it would leave the crypto community with options. Eggs/baskets/etc.
Why do Audi sell cars if VW ones are perfectly good for the job?
Thank you for sharing your interests. As it seems they a different from mine. VW and Audi are companies. They need to make money and they copy as hell. Nxt and Bitcoin were not supposed to do that. They are supposed to be platforms. There is actually no need to copy them, especially not conceptually. The only reason I see why people continue creating coins are: to get a piece of the cake. I fail to see why I should support that. I would rather see them working on existing platforms, increasing the user-base and education Average Joes IF they do not come up with an innovative idea that is worth yet another blockchain, and yet another network. Its not that simple. I'm an investor in NXT but I struggle to use and see the system as user friendly for the masses. Apart from Bitcoin that does have some flaws there is clearly room for a system that might have similar functions but puts it together in a way that the masses can use and we can see mass adoption. WE are very early in the age of Digital currencies. The field is very much open. This is all about who will inspire mass adoption, so far even Bitcoin is a tiny, tiny fraction of money movement in the world. |
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Is number 4. "Password protected wallets that can be recovered/generated from seeds."
a unique feature? I know many wouldn't touch alt coins if they lost their money if they lose a password.
In regard to the listed features, are there some unique things, I'm not tech minded but it seems there are some differences to other major ecosystems like NXT?
TCP?
Would be good to get some opinions from experts.
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Yeah there is gonna be a lot of overlap in functions because its what people want. There are different brands of car with the same functions but ultimately a Porche is not a Ford, Apple is not a PC....etc
Yeah I think Darkcoin definetly brings a great function to crypto. But possibly other coins and systems can can the function later. I don't discount it but one killer function might not make a complete system like say NXT deos with decentralized trading for example.
But my real point is not to argue about opinion. I genuinley want to know what are the original pure new codes cause I feel like new coins are coming out at the moment but I can't see what is new and innovative and what is recycled from other coins. There is a bigger argument about what is the best coins and many might be original coins built upon like Master Coin I just want to first try to have a list of originals so I don't miss IPO's going on that are worth a bet on.
The real issue is a million threads on IPO's and I haven't got the time to read all of them.
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Hi,
Not sure if there is any reason to invest in one of these coins... are you trying justy to promote them
The OP is trying to trade off his scam from interest in another coin that has a working beta and is a completely new coding. I unashamedly would promote it cause so far it is unarguably a new development in Crypto, that's based on facts known. Numus I believe is just a way to get BTC off people, there is no actual coin. it doesn't exit. |
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None of the above..
IF Qora delivers the functions it promises and it being a completely new coding it would be quite a foolish person that completely dismisses it. Genuine new coins built from scratch are what? 5% of total coins, less maybe? |
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subtle advertising lol
It would be ok if it was innocent advertising. Numus has clearly been shown to be a scam. I mean steal your money scam. The guys involved use a lot of sockpuppets as well to create an artifical buzz. They have been linked to other complete scams that do not do anything more than take investors money and disappear. Assume the poster is part of Numus and part of the scam. |
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I have invested in NXT cause I thought it was a genuinely new product. I have also invested in the IPO for Qora which is the developer is to be believed is also a completely new code and coin. I want to invest in coins that are genuinely new codes and are brand new. Not coins that are recoded of NXT or Bitcoin etc but It's hard to see what is new and what is BS at the moment with so many IPO's.
So my question is what are the genuine new coded coins not built on top of other coins. Personally I like NEM and some other NXT related coins but I don't see them as 100% new codes even if they claim it.
So far my understanding is:
1. Bitcoin (original, new code)
2. NXT (completely new code)
3. Emunie (is this still on?)
4. Etherieum (still on? is it based on Bitcoin or new code,some concerns with Goldman Sachs?)
5. Exo coin (seems like new code?)
6. Ripple (people hate it but it is new and still could become the one that become mainstream)
7. Qora (seems legit now and is claimed to be a new code)
I want to invest in the real innovators, but I can't see in the threads what is new and what is a clone or BS, scam etc anymore. Can we make a list of actually new coins. I recognise many clones and coins built on others can be great and winners but my strategy is to invest in the innovators cause I think in the end the originals will win once all the marketing and BS dies down.
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This is absolutely 100% a scam.
If you don't use Anon1 for stakes you WILL lose your money.
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The dev was in a coffee shop and take too much POT excuse him, so much stress u know!
You are a liar to claim my transaction. Shame on you. If you claim someone is a liar on a public forum, your words might carry more weight if you sign an appropriate message using your address's key to verify it's yours. I have sign a message and PM the dev. The transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/922c73e381932940a78253d837cb0e4b959a4e8ecf5e269a3740af7630ed61f2 is belong to me. Here is another sign message address:1F1vtYmjbX2W91SgyZbb4pR6YRhdiNHq3W message: qora IPO Bitcointallk ID:Agestorzrxx signature: IEdxhLrZ28DzawlTmG/SUZeewZGRVuLRBNFkuUxLU7pZX+0n0fJuOSnqClbrXYXDqOnENsajU11dn+AXVLUVh6c= Everyone can verify this message. Listen I wouldn't worry, most IPO's have people trying to steal peoples stakes by trying to claim them. Even if people haven't signed which you have they can prove it's theirs by sending a small pre determined amount from the same account. |
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Look people let's be positive on this thread. Community makes coins successful. He has come back, if he was scamming then he would gain nothing by replying to all our PM's. Also let's try not to bother the Developer with non essential requests, he clearly is busy and if we swamp him with unnecessary questions and PM's it gonna delay the important stuff as he is doing it all mainly by himself.
This coin could well be massive but can be destroyed with NXT like accusations and nonsense.
Agree. We should trust the DEV. If this is a scam, he will never reply after the end of IPO. The beta client is much better than NXT's. And the initial distribution is also much better than NXT. Agree, I believe those who have invested on time are really lucky. But this is also why you are gonna get a lot of bitterness too. If people see the potential in this coin they can always by cheap at the start of distribution and trading. NXT had a good amount of time to buy in, should be no different here. |
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SCAMCOIN
No one should bother replying to trolls but I thought you saying this after I just saw you say "Looks interesting....I'm watching" on Edge Coin thread pretty much rules you out from having an opinion.  |
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Look people let's be positive on this thread. Community makes coins successful. He has come back, if he was scamming then he would gain nothing by replying to all our PM's. Also let's try not to bother the Developer with non essential requests, he clearly is busy and if we swamp him with unnecessary questions and PM's it gonna delay the important stuff as he is doing it all mainly by himself.
This coin could well be massive but can be destroyed with NXT like accusations and nonsense.
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You might not want to say you're not intelligent...  |
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It kept meaning to post this, but once it seemed like a scam I didn't bother. I thought the meaning of QORA was particularly interesting/smart in that the main reference for it seems to be A Tatar Crimean word meaning fence, a nice attachment if the coin is to have good security features etc and apt with the recent news in Crimea. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/qora |
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