Just PM and I'll sell you some luck. 1% - .5btc. Bulk discounts available of course. I have some fairy dust also, but that's expensive stuff.

Read and read...



http://www.ihavebitcoins.com/featured/sustainability-small-scale-bitcoin-mining/

Damn, my bad. Changed.

Seriously? Have  you checked and sifted around the options and buttons on your miners built-in webUI? Even the Jupiter manual can help you with that. Us old school guys here worked our asses off to get information and let me tell you, it's all in this thread, so maybe take some time to do a search and/or read up. Sometimes in life you need to do things on your own and not have people do it for you.

I have a few RM1000's myself and they are great power supplies. I thought maybe bitmain would answer the question about the noise. Anyway, after a few days of figuring some numbers out, Neptune's hitting the blockchain and then all those SP30's running each at 6TH/s soon any hardware I buy now has little reward. Possibility of ROI, maybe, will take much longer but overall profit before you start losing money will be so little maybe I'll buy a nice dinner for the better half. And before you take out your revolver and start shooting, these are my opinions. I've noticed A LOT of people are very touchy and sensitive and respond back with venom if you happen to disagree with their way of thinking. Anger management people, anger management.

The manufacturer's have all the cards in their hands. They're the ones with 0% risk and making all the money. All we are doing is sweating over over priced hardware picking up scraps up bitcoin hoping to even break even. I've learned buying mining hardware (unless you go enterprise) is a waste of resources these days. While we all massively grow our carbon footprint into the sky why not we all take a strike on buying hardware and force manufacture's to lower prices? If we actually all worked together and could do something like that we would happy mining people.

It's called inside info.

If you have an attick, don't install any gable fans. I would definitely go for one of those full house fans that usually sit on your roof in the middle of the attick. If you get one powerful enough it can pull and circulate the air in your house in a matter of minutes. I've seen some so powerful that if you open up the access panel to the attick while the fan is on and toss a tissue in the air it will get swept up into the attack. Negative air pressure is what you want of course for that air circulation. I learned my lesson with this by installing gable fans on both ends of my attick and basically nothing happened. Too bad those evaporative fans don't work good in the summer.

All I needed to hear months ago to confirm they are scumbags was "hold on to your coins, they will go fast". For those that remember.

Because it was not designed properly and KNC just expects people that paid $13k or $10k and waited 4-6 months to fix all this on their own. There is no "plug -n- mine" here.

Anyone know how loud the S3 is and what kind of heat it puts out? I mean it's only 366 watts at the wall, right? I'm just wondering if those fans are loud or not and it is spits out a lot of heat. Do you need to have air conditioning on or this unit is able to cool itself with its fans? I'm assuming those fans are in a push/pull configuration, just pushing the air through.

And do you think one RM1000 power supply can power 2 of these? I use the Corsair RM1000 on my KNC and it has been a very good power supply with plenty of connections.

Obviously I used an online calculator and it came to about %66. I used the Tradeblock site, which isn't set in stone with the output numbers, but I would definitely say they are a good approximate. Here is what I input for one SP30 starting in September.
https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/a45142e2e9
Maximum profit only indicates $3630, and yea, I was high with the difficulty increase cause I'd rather have worse case numbers to make a decision on. I think if I spend over $5k on a mining rig and then have to spend $300/month to co-locate I'd want a better reward than $3k-$4k. For 6TH/s in September I think $5395 is too much right now, that's all. I'm hoping all the numbers are correct. The reason I kept the diff at 20 is because at that time there will probably be a slew of KNC Neptunes online, thousands of Antminer S3's and, another one called Rockminer?, and then of course Spondoolie's. That's a huge dent onto the network, and if you adjust that difficulty setting on that page it does change your max profit considerably. The lowest change in 4 months has been %10.66.

Jun 29 2014   16,818,461,371   24.93%   120,391,236 GH/s
Jun 18 2014   13,462,580,115   14.51%   96,368,902 GH/s
Jun 05 2014   11,756,551,917   12.44%   84,156,677 GH/s
May 24 2014   10,455,720,138   18.10%   74,844,960 GH/s
May 12 2014   8,853,416,309   10.66%   63,375,223 GH/s
Apr 29 2014   8,000,872,136   14.64%   57,272,474 GH/s
Apr 17 2014   6,978,842,650   14.04%   49,956,502 GH/s
Apr 05 2014   6,119,726,089   22.23%   43,806,706 GH/s

I've never been a risky person, so I hesitate, and sometimes I lose out. The best thing I ever did was buy a KNC Saturn and then bought 4 upgrade modules. That little guy is still chugging along. I think if my house had more electrical resources and didn't have to worry about cooling I'd have mining rigs all over the place. It is addicting.

I asked my current co-location place about S3's and they said bring 'em on! As many as you want. All they need of course are power supplies sent to them and they'll hook them up on large bread racks they have there. And if I have a lot, they'll make a good deal.

You say your house is full of Jupiters and Sp10's, how the heck do you live? One SP10 is loud enough and you said your house is filled with miners? How do you watch TV? With headphones? What do you do in the summer about cooling everything?

Yea, I want to support Spondoolie and the community and keep myself in the game, but at that current price with a $300 shipping charge the most I could ever make would maybe be $2500-$3200. So, for something that cost me $5395 and only get the most $3200 out of it doesn't seem like a good investment. And I'm working with the current numbers, the September numbers would even be worse. I'm trying to keep myself in the game, and I'd really hate to buy a few Antminer S3's, but their so damn cheap it is hard to say no. I'd rather use a Spondoolie product for good support and a quality product but maybe this go around I'll just stick to buying bitcoin out right from now on and not have to worry about hardware. Apparently it seems everyone in the world is putting up their own data center these days. In my opinion, the main problem and concern we ALL should be worried about is power.

Quite some time has gone by and I'm surprised that September SP30 is still at the same price. Tack on $300 for shipping and that will never break even. I thought as more time went by, the price would be lowered so they could sell more. I guess the newbs are really out in full force out there just buying everything up they can. I'd like to be there when the newb tries to plug it into his house and the breakers keep tripping and everyone is scratching their head.

The most you'll make with an SP30 is about $3040. That's about as much profit you'll be able to suck out of it. That's my opinion of course and hope everyone make more. And all that is over at least a 6 month to a 1 year period at least. And I guess if you buy multiple SP30's its all the same as if you bought once. Since ya gotta pay it all back first, then maybe a satoshi will slip in there couple years later?

I've seen 12 posts asking about shipping.

Bitmain said around July 10th to start shipping and that's a Thursday. Repeatedly asking when it is going to ship when that information was supplied already is just cramming the thread up.

I know margins are tight, the tightest ever. You guys are now living through a pre-order. If you never ordered a pre-order, you'll drive yourself crazy dwelling on it everyday. When I ordered my KNC Jupiter, I had to wait 2 months for it to show up. The luckiest people in bitcoin were the ones that ordered those first Avalons. I think they made like 5BTC/day for a while. These things we'll never see again. Poo Poo Poo on that.

I ordered a Spondoolie SP10 and received it 8 days later. It was brand new and never mined with by the manufacturer. It was only tested to make sure it worked, and that was on my own account too. Bitcoin manufacturers are now mining with pre-order rigs, making the best profits the rig will ever make, then shipping them out. Yea, it's that greed bug.





Yea, sorry for the multiple posts.....trying to catch up on a thread in this forum is almost impossible there is so much talk about this and that.

Because some people have no self control. They'd rather burn their house down, unplug their dryer, etc then not buy a new miner. They can't help themselves.

Not like its a lot of bitcoin here. I guess once a hoarder always a hoarder!