S3 is still too expensive, especially when delivery is not immediately.
I hope they will release coupons soon !
At the moment, what other device under 1BTC is a better price than AntMiner s3? It may not be the perfect price for ROI but I can't seem to find anything better. Please post other options in the 500GH range. Really like the simplicity of AntMiners with only a network cable and 2 power plugs. My 2 s1's run none stop without issues. The new s3 looks sexy with the new cover. BTCBTCDoubleDD Just because there are no rigs that will ROI doesn't mean you HAVE to buy what is available. You just don't buy anything. Right now all these bitcoin miner manufacturers have the weak minded wrapped around their fingers. Soon as these things went on sale they sold out, even though none of them will probably never break even. |
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Just a heads up for anyone interested. We offer hosting in our Colocation in California - we also offer shipping from California.  Cost for co-locate? |
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yeah i dont like that. Why if they have S3 already, dont deliver right now? why wait till 10-20 july? you pay now, yeah, but you have to wait till 10-20 and maybe you receive them last week of july... i dont like that waiting period  If you order something online, normal ordering processing is 24-48 hours if product is in stock. If it is not in stock, nothing ships. This is what is called a pre-order no matter how you look at it. |
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Just paid for 10 units. It looks like even at a steady 15% difficulty increase, these will never ROI for me at $0.13/Kwh.
Why did you buy them? |
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The price on these are in BTC, so min order quantity is 2, which comes to $1000 for less then 1TH. These will never break even, especially since you have to buy a $200 power supply too. These "should" be priced at $400 each, but that's just my opinion. |
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I know this is a little off topic, but no group buy info has been released so.....
what then is a good price to co-locate an SP30, with Internet access of course.
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A 140mm fan would need to spin higher than 2000 rpm. There are not many out there.
Take out the large, ridiculous fan and replace it with 4 small little fans. Your options on those size fans are limitless. not really an improvement since 60mm fans cap out at 60ish cfm and I dont think there are that many 70mm fans around. Then its dremel time. May as well have the one whole side of fans. |
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While the new rig will eat a little into current profits it won't deplete them. Then after your current hashing power has paid for the new rig you'll be hashing more power and getting a quicker return, replenishing those lost profits. Several ways to look at it I guess. Didn't want to start a debate, but just how other miners mentally figure out if it's worth to buy a new rig or not. I'm pretty sure there are lots of miners here that have bought gear knowing it would never ROI, but with the help of their current hashing power overlook that and move forward.
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How do you know how the s3 sounds? Its not supposed to start shipping till the 10th.
Was just going to ask about that. I don't even see an S3 on the website. The S2 is priced over $1700, which is quite expensive I think for just 1TH these days. I also heard it has a big where you can't change the root/login password. Is that correct? I'm looking for a rig I can run at home, around 1TH that isn't really loud. I have a KNC Jupiter and that runs practically silent. I do also have an Spondoolie SP10 but that's being hosted. Too loud and too much heat. Also have my eye on that Dragon 1TH rig, which is pretty cheap. Anyone with an S2, do you like it? |
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I feel prices still need to drop on the A1 Dragons, $1/GH is the new benchmark level set by Bitmain and everyone will have to compete with that.
Bitmain's S2 is a 1TH rig and cost over $1700. I've been interested in something I can get and run at home with my KNC rig, but the manufacture's are keeping the prices at a very premium, trying to squeeze every penny out. |
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A 140mm fan would need to spin higher than 2000 rpm. There are not many out there.
Take out the large, ridiculous fan and replace it with 4 small little fans. Your options on those size fans are limitless. |
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I think the attraction for me could be a good deal on hosting together with SP-30 at a discount.
I am surprised that this is not being raised. The original GB had a hosting option. No facility in WA wants to host hundreds of Sp-30 all in one deal?
I believe that this is what needs to be arranged, but price has to be based on WA electrical rates, NOT on expensive electrical rates.
?! So those who pay 16 Cents per KWH are severely disadvantaged? Do you work for the company? I am not sure re disadvantaged. If someone has higher electrical rate, they have to compete on something else. I speak only for myself. Well, as long as hosting price for SP-30 is at or below $190/mo with 208V/220V/240V available (if Sp-30 is 2.5kw) with 6mo (not 12!) minimal requirement, I think that many people would support this by choosing SP-30+hosting package. I am surprised that nobody arranged this kind of a deal yet. $290/mo in the original GB is an overpay for hosting considering the electricity cost of 2-3c/kwh in that area and SOMEONE in WA should take the initiative to make a better deal that would be beneficial for everybody. Smart data centers will take advantage like everything else in this industry and over price their hosting options because they are aware most people at least in the US can't plug one of these SP30's in your home without high consideration on electrical resources and heat. I've asked several data centers how much they would charge to co-locate an SP30 and all three places quoted me over $350/month. Seeing that is highway robbery, I can only see people with the means that have free electric and cooling getting these SP30's. I remember running my SP10 in my office when it was 60 degrees out and the next morning the office temperature was 104 degrees. I couldn't even imagine if I addded an SP30 into the mix. |
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Rely of your current hashing power to pay off new hardware that you buy and may have trouble breaking even?
I have been doing that. Thanks for answering. I was interested in the mentality of it all since it is such a crazy ass business. I was thinking of getting an S2, but for $1700 that's pretty damn expensive and by itself it will never ROI, but it will if I use my current hashing power. Not sure if I wanna run one from home, since it is another 1000watts. |
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Let's say I'm at a point where all my mining hardware is paid off already and any new bitcoins I make is just profit going forward. Lets say some of you long time miners are in this situation. Now you are looking around to buy some new hardware. Nothing big, just something to keep you busy. Lets just say you can get a 1TH/S rig for a decent price and have it by next week. Of course the machine will never ROI or break even as they say but you are adding it to your current hashing power and if you take all that hashing power eventually that new rig will break even. Do some of you guys do that? Rely of your current hashing power to pay off new hardware that you buy and may have trouble breaking even?
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I can confirm this is all true..
I have been doing business with Coinbase for quite some time and up until now I thought everything was legit... Until they "decided" to take my money for an attempted purchase... "decide" not to send any BTC.. and then tell me they would refund me in 3 or 4 business days... which basically means sometime next week... I reached out to customer support who assured me they were going to look into my problem, fix it personally, and make sure it NEVER happened again... They told me everything was good and that I could go ahead and attempt the purchase again... I did, and the same thing happened, they "decided" to cancel the transaction after taking my money... now I have to wait 3 or 4 business days while thy play with my money and I get nothing. Meanwhile, the price of bitcoin has gone up so I am now unable to get the purchase price I desired because coinbase "decided" to take my money and send me nothing. This is criminal, it is fraud and they should be shut down.. Do NOT do business with Coinbase they are a giant scam.
Make sure you turn on two factor authentication on. When ever I make a BTC purchase I have an SMS code sent to my cell phone. If you don't enter in the correct number you can't buy/move/sell any bitcoin. |
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Is the S2 loud? Can it be ran in an office or cabinet?
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Please note, that you can't achieve the same results, by just putting the voltages. You have to analyse your boards first, to determine what start volts are best for your miner.
Please take note that different voltages for Top and Bottom only work for the 2 type DCR miners. Offtopic: Temp Front / Back T,B
16 °C / 59,65 °C I got only one with different DCRs. Temp Front / Back T,B
34 °C / 71,81 °C Man, I am jealous about your ambient temp  Ok, how do you tell which type you have? |
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bitpop, your consistent badgering about Ghash is only making miners curious to try it out. After I read 6 or 7 of your hate Ghash one liners I couldn't resist but try them out. Now I'm mining at their pool, getting a better reward then other pools I've tried. If you've put all your eggs in one basket and bitcoin sounds like you have I can understand why you want people to stay away from Ghash, but one line 6 word sentences isn't quality feedback to someone or much an incentive for them to just listen to you out right. Ghash grabs the network, takes the network. If you are so against Ghash, then get off your ass and really do something about it. 6th grade sentences aren't going to help.
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Why is everyone getting the S1, isn't the S2 1TH/s, avalable now? Does anyone have an S2 running it at home?
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What's that mean? Bought my SP10 in May 26th.
Go to DCR tab and you will have 0, 1 or 2. DCR 1 is more sensitive to heat than 0 and 2. What's your AC2DC power(in the ASIC Stats tab) Here is my DCR output: DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 0 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 1 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 2 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 3 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 4 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 5 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 6 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 7 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 8 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 9 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 10 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 11 (0xD0) = 0x1 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 12 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 13 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 14 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 15 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 16 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 17 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 18 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 19 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 20 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 21 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 22 (0xD0) = 0x0 DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 23 (0xD0) = 0x0 My DC2DC is 1248 |
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