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921  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for September on: September 18, 2023, 01:03:08 PM
^  But PA looks like it's starting to get some momentum to the upside since the time it dropped to 24.9k last week.  And it kinda slowed down the last two days but just a couple of hours ago or so, seems like it's picking up again.  It's looking good so far.  Let's just hope it won't do the shenanigans it did at the end of August.  Mofos ran the stops and got a lot of people sidelined.  Lol.

But yeah...  Let's see if it makes a clean break above 28k.
922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 18, 2023, 12:50:06 PM
For sure the Main Event for UFC Fight Night: Grasso vs. Shevchenko 2 ended in controversy because of the Scorecard fiasco sure this issue will not settle down that easily but we have a new event for this week

UFC Fight Night: Fiziev vs. Gamrot

DATE: Saturday 09.23.2023
TIME: 04:00 PM ET
PROMOTION: Ultimate Fighting Championship
VENUE: UFC Apex
LOCATION: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States



MAIN EVENT
Rafael Fiziev VS Mateusz Gamrot

CO-MAIN EVENT
Bryce Mitchell VS Dan Ige

MAIN CARD
Marina Rodriguez VS Michelle Waterson-Gomez
Bryan Battle VS AJ Fletcher
Charles Jourdain VS Ricardo Ramos

PRELIMINARY CARD
Miles Johns VS Dam Argueta
Tim Means VS Andre Fialho
Jacob Malkoun VS Cody Brundage
Jake Collier VS Mohammed Usman
Mizuki Inoue VS Hannah Goldy
Montserrat Rendon VS Tamires Vidal

The Information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/101865-ufc-fight-night


That's a decent main event imho.  And Fiziev is one of my favorite guys in the roster since he beat Marc Diakesse as the underdog a couple of years ago but man...  Going against Gamrot for 5 rounds could be a tall order.  Fiziev wil prolly look good at the first couple of rounds of the match.  But as the match progresses into the championship rounds, he has a tendency of slowing down.  That's where Gamrot could take over and wear on him.  Gamrot is very durable and a very good wrestler.  If more action goes to Fiziev, Gamrot's like could improve to 2.50. which is good imo.

Edit:  DWCS is also on in a couple of days.

Date:  Tuesday, Sept 19
Main Card (Fight Pass/ESPN+):  8:00pm EST
Venue:  UFC Apex Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
Live Streams:  



Main Card
Women's Strawweight:  Talita Alencar vs Stephanie Luciano
Welterweight:  Kaynan Kruschewsky vs Dylan Mantello
Flyweight:  Jhonata Silva vs Igor da Silva
Heavyweight:  Shamil Ghaziev vs Greg Velasco
Lightweight:  JaCobi Jones vs Daniel James Allen
923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: AfreecaTV StarCraft League Season 16 Prediction and Info Thread on: September 18, 2023, 09:40:18 AM
^  Yup..  Here's the brackets for quarters, semis and the finals.  Quarter finals are Bo5 games, while the semis and the final are Bo7 games



My picks from each of the match ups are Rush, Soulkey, Mini and Action.  NFA but I might make a small bet on Rush, if I win that I drop everything on Soulkey tomorrow.  Grin  So I hope I win the first bet.

And it's nice to see Rollbit have a market for it now.  So I guess I'll post that here instead of Stake's lines.

https://rollbit.com/sports?bt-path=%2Fstarcraft-112

Anyway, event starts in around 25 mins.  Have fun and good luck to the one follower of this thread.  Cheesy

Korean Stream:  http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1

English Stream:  http://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119
924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Layerzero Speculation airdrop on: September 17, 2023, 01:09:49 PM
With Layer Zero getting on board Nomis, I think it's not totally about the multiplier.  It's more about helping Layer Zero's devs figure out how to filter the botters out of the airdrop list.  And again for just 8 bucks, I'm minting my score just in case it's gonna be something like Arbitrum's Odyssey NFT.  I think the minters were given more points in the Arbitrum Foundation's list of eligible people.  Dunno...   

Odyssey NFT was not a multiplier in the distribution of airdrop from Arbitrum. All the criteria that influenced the size of the airdrop are on the page https://arbitrum.foundation/eligibility and Odyssey NFT is missing among them. We can only be happy for Nomis, which has received about 700 thousand dollars from users who think the same way as you.

It didn't in the end because a lot of people were botting it.  Layer Zero and Nomis' partnership is different as Nomis filters the botters out which makes minting the NFT have more sense as proof that you got your score at a specified date.

And it could discourage botters from gaming the airdrop now.  So I think it's the best time to start getting active again as the devs could give more credence to the data after the partnership was made.
925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 17, 2023, 12:56:37 PM
It was a decent event from top to bottom except for the JDM vs Holland match which I thought was gonna be fight of the night.  :/  Not sure why Holland didn't get some grappling in.  

A couple of take aways from the event...  I think Blanchfield could own both Shev's and Grasso's asses and JDM could lose his next match vs another ranked guy.  He'll prolly fight Geoff Neal next..?  

Noche UFC:  Results

Alexa Grasso vs Valentina Shevchenko ruled a spit draw (48-47, 47-48, 47-47)
Jack Della Maddalena def Kevin Holland via split decision (28-29, 29-28, 29-28)
Raul Rosas Jr. def Terrence Mitchell via TKO (punches) at 0:54 of Round 1
Daniel Zellhuber def Christos Giagos via submission (anaconda choke) at 3:26 of Round 2
Kyle Nelson def Fernando Padilla via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 30-27)
Loopy Godinez def Elise Reed via submission (rear-naked choke) at 3:38 of Round 2
Roman Kopylov vs Josh Fremd def. via KO (punch) at 4:44 of Round 2
Edgar Chairez vs Daniel Lacerda ruled a no-contest at 3:47 of Round 1 (referee error)
Tracy Cortez def Jasmine Jasudavicius via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Charlie Campbell def Alex Reyes via TKO (punches) at 3:38 of Round 1
Josefine Knutsson def Marnic Mann via unanimous decision (30-24, 30-25, 30-27)

Noche UFC:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJrM6yp2r-M
926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2023, 12:36:55 PM
When we look at Manchester United's current form I won't be very surprised if they even get eliminated in the Champions League group stage. They are playing really very badly.

By the way I want to say that I have made my payment. Here is txid: f99005b7160ef44871d8969a97d60a68055dba14fdc129ff2f5b197ffe2e8ce1

Yeah...  But I think they get enough points from FC Copenhagen and Galatasaray to go through to KO stages.  And it's better if they do as we'll need the laughs and keep things interesting.  I hope they'll win one from Bayern too.  Lol.

Anyway, buwaytress I sent you a pm.  Thanks.  Wink

And damn I didn't realize that the CL starts this coming week.  I still haven't figured out the thing in the spread sheet yet.

Good luck everybody!
927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: September 17, 2023, 12:25:16 PM
Hmmm..  Now wishing I went through with my prediction and made the bet on Leclerc to finish on the podium at 3.95.  :/  He's running the softs right now and might do a one stop and go for the hards.  Dunno...  But it looks like he's gonna finish second or third at least.  He'd be lucky to win it but Sainz seems faster.

Edit:  Leclerc was just on the radio and said that Sainz looks like he's slowing down.  Interesting to see how the Ferrari plays this beyond lap 20.  Would be funny if they botch it and get somebody else to finish first.  Cheesy Cheesy

Edit:  LOL FERRARI.
928  Economy / Gambling / Re: [RESOLVED] Rollbit withdrawal pending for over 16 hours on: September 16, 2023, 12:54:53 PM
okay everything is resolved now. Did kyc yesterday, still says ''needs-review'' then today the team asked me why I deposited in the first place, told them why and withdrawal has arrived, a lot of you guys are saying it was because I didnt wager anything which makes a lot of sense and I agree with but unfortunately I didnt think about this before withdrawing. thank you to everyone who helped

Good to hear...  And these things happen more than you think with gambling sites.  So it's really good to have patience and talk nice to the people behind the site.  If you aren't doing any real shenanigans then you have nothing to worry about.
929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: September 16, 2023, 12:43:28 PM
What's with Sainz this weekend?  Didn't watch any of the practice sessions but looking at the results, Ferrari was sweeping all of them.  Somebody itt is prolly happy.  Cheesy 

Here are the results for FP3 and quali starts in 20 mins or so.  Gonna switch to that as this Wolves vs LFC match is kinda boring.  Wolves up by a goal against Klopp and his boys.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

2023 F1 Singaporean GP FP3 Results

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.065s
2   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m32.134s
3   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.303s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m32.378s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.381s
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m32.535s
7   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.730s
8   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m32.784s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m32.896s
10   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m32.945s
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m32.970s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m32.979s
13   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.051s
14   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.126s
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.351s
16   Liam Lawson   NZL   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.357s
17   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m33.370s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m33.540s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m33.637s
20   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m33.708s
930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: September 16, 2023, 12:32:38 PM
And what's your 'score thing'?  Please do share.  Grin

Slaman wants to play the bad cop, wants to pick all the underdogs and see how it goes. He planned to move against all of us.

Quote
In tourney formats like the UCL, I think managers are forced to be more pragmatic.  That's why Mou at his prime could win it with a more inferior squad while Guardiola had a hard time winning it with a superior squad because he was so idealistic in his approach.

Players fight to make Jose Mourinho happy because he made them feel loved,  while Pep is someone who just play technical football to get results  Cool

Good luck to his bad cop strat...  Lol.

And yeah...  Different man management approaches.  But I'd disagree that Guardiola wants to play his squads in some way for the results.  It's really the opposite.  Guardiola is idealistic in his approach and wants his squads to play in some style irregardless of the results.  It's Mourinho who doesn't really care how his squads play as long as he gets the results.
931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 16, 2023, 12:21:07 PM
^  Rofl...  Vital statistics?  Like a beauty pageant?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Ceremonial weigh ins in around 9 hours folks.  One last time to see these guys face off and gauge the fighters.

Noche UFC:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkai1JvmhFM

Official weigh ins in around three hours.

Noche UFC:  Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKxKcudyZeg

Enjoy...

That is the kind of weigh ins and face off we deserve https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c25z82ApjOk and on first glance on the instagram, it does not look that Cherneka Johnson is MMA or boxing fighter, or anywhere around fighting Cheesy

With years, I feel somehow sorry for not taking a lot of attention to link to weigh-ins you post. So I decided to click few keys on my keyboard and search youtube for more of them. Found pretty funny compilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_u1R9JmxI + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_j1H5p_-m8.

Lmao.  Those vids are funny...  Post more from time to time and lighten the mood up.  Sometimes I get too serious about all this stuff and forget it's all about for shts and gigs.  I still do enjoy it tho.  I still love my weekly UFC fix.  Wink

As for you not really watching all of the weigh ins, I think it's good to see how these guys look one last time if you haven't made your bets yet.  Sometimes there are very close match ups that you need to see how these guys look on the scale before dropping some money into them.  And it's a process for making better bets.  So...  All good.

Here are the face offs.

Noche UFC:  Face Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpjPPGtcS3I

Here are the weigh in results.  Everybody made weight.

Alexa Grasso (124.5) vs Valentina Shevchenko (124.5)
Jack Della Maddalena (171) vs Kevin Holland (170.5)
Terrence Mitchell (135.5) vs Raul Rosas Jr. (135)
Christos Giagos (156) vs Daniel Zellhuber (156)
Kyle Nelson (146) vs Fernando Padilla (145.5)
Loopy Godinez (116) vs Elise Reed (115.5)
Josh Fremd (185.5) vs Roman Kopylov (185.5)
Edgar Chairez (126) vs Daniel Lacerda (125.5)
Tracy Cortez (126) vs Jasmine Jasudavicius (125.5)
Charlie Campbell (155) vs Alex Reyes (155.5)
Josefine Knutsson (115.5) vs. Marnic Mann (115)

And last call for jeremypwr's Multi Master...

UFC Fight Night 227 - Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466450.0
932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 15, 2023, 12:43:52 PM
^  Lol yeah...  That's why the books won't commit to making very low lines to the favorite as it could bite them in the ass.  But they did go below the 1.30 chalk in one rare occassion...  And as we saw, the rest is history.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  I guess they'll put Adesanaya and Strickland as a coin flip in the rematch..? 

Ceremonial weigh ins in around 9 hours folks.  One last time to see these guys face off and gauge the fighters.

Noche UFC:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkai1JvmhFM

Official weigh ins in around three hours.

Noche UFC:  Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKxKcudyZeg

Enjoy...
933  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: September 15, 2023, 12:31:46 PM
^  I won one of those when I made a comment about Phil Galfond being the only poker player Tom Dwan wouldn't play HU against because Dwan felt he couldn't win against him.  I think the other reason behind is because they're really good friends irl.  :/  But yeah, not taking anything away from Galfond...  He was among the best online players back in the day.  Not sure today.  But I know Dwan's game is still sharp.  He won the biggest televised pot ever in poker a couple of months ago.  It was against a millionaire BTC miner.  Lmao.

Anyway I'm here to ask you guys to join the CL pool sponsored by none other than Rollbit for 10k USD.  =]

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934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: September 15, 2023, 12:15:07 PM
^  Yup...  Sad to say pure Superbru got kinda boring for the league format.  That and a lot of the regs in the gambling section got hell a lot better in predicting scores in the EPL and the other top leagues.  Cheesy  Didn't feel like playing this year but prolly come back next year if I feel like it.  And didn't somebody make a Fantasy Premier League pool or something?  I think somebody pm'd me about it...  I might join that too.  Kinda felt like hard work tho the last time I tried it with hilariousandco a couple or so years ago.  Lol.  I was only good for a couple of weeks and I left.  Cheesy

And what's your 'score thing'?  Please do share.  Grin

In tourney formats like the UCL, I think managers are forced to be more pragmatic.  That's why Mou at his prime could win it with a more inferior squad while Guardiola had a hard time winning it with a superior squad because he was so idealistic in his approach.
935  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: September 14, 2023, 01:20:39 PM
The international break is finally behind us, has felt like an eternity.

Which upcoming weekend game are you most looking forward to?


-ADante

Yup, waiting for league football sucks sometimes.  Lol.

As for my most anticipated matches, it's West Ham vs Man City and Man United vs Brighton.  I think Moyes shouldn't be faded here or at least consider the line.  He could outfox Pep imho.  He already has a couple of good wins vs Chelsea and Brighton.

Man United vs Brighton is an interesting one as United looks like it's in shambles and Brighton has been looking good.  But could they really win at Old Trafford?  My gut says no.  It could end up going 1 - 1...

And here's my Majestic 7 picks for the weekend.

Diaz
March
Diaby
Wilson
Solanke
Saka
Awoniyi

Thanks for the 10k guys.  Cheesy
936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Layerzero Speculation airdrop on: September 14, 2023, 12:52:01 PM
^  Dunno, Layer Zero tweeted about it and made it look like it was some sort of partnership with Nomis.  So for just 8 bucks it wouldn't hurt to mint the NFT if you're eligible as proof of some sort.  Maybe it's going to be kinda like Arbitrum's Odyssey NFT a few months before the airdrop happened, who knows...  I minted mine just in case...

If you believe in such multipliers, then you should also get a badge from Nomis on the zkSync network, which, like L0, costs about $8. I have more confidence in the service https://dune.com/springzhang/layerzero-users-ranking-for-potential-airdrop. Try to check your wallet there and if it does not enter the TOP 500k, then a badge from Nomis is unlikely to help you.

With Layer Zero getting on board Nomis, I think it's not totally about the multiplier.  It's more about helping Layer Zero's devs figure out how to filter the botters out of the airdrop list.  And again for just 8 bucks, I'm minting my score just in case it's gonna be something like Arbitrum's Odyssey NFT.  I think the minters were given more points in the Arbitrum Foundation's list of eligible people.  Dunno...   

But then again yeah, it could also be nothing.  But we'll see, we don't even know if an airdrop will really happen.  They could do a SUI for all we know.  :/
937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 14, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
Speaking about Adesanya - during 1 year he has managed to lost, regain and lost again his champions title. He is 34, based on his instagram, he is enjoying life more than being a full-time working hard fighter. Recently Pereira told, that Izzy should take a rest, make a pause, think what he wants more. I know that social media isnt 100% reflection of humans life, but imho, Izzy starts to look more like Conor. It is party, fun and luxury over hard work in gym.

He certainly doesn't look his age. He looks like he's mid-to-late twenties and acts like a teenager. Everyone ages differently, and I think he might be one of those people who can stay in great shape even past the 40. But there's another factor, that we can call mental aging. The longer you fight the harder it is to stay "hungry" and get your motivation high. The adrenaline levels simply might not be what they used to be when he steps into the octagon.
Also, his fighting style to a large degree is based on speed, and that's something that deteriorates with age way faster than strength. There's always an option for him to bulk up and move to the light heavyweight, which is generally slower than the middleweight.

Anyhow, in a recent interview, Dana White was back-pedaling a bit on the idea of an immediate rematch, so things might get more interesting. I think they may be waiting on the Costa-Chimaev result before making any decisions.

It's all the anime he's been watching.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  If the mind is young then body will also look young.

Here's a tape of Holland vs Chiesa.  I honestly have no idea why the books lined Holland as a slight underdog here.  I think it's value esp with how JDM looked at his last match.  I know JDM has been on a tear but I think Holland could sub this guy.  Holland via sub is at 7.20.  Could be worth a sprinkle.

UFC Free Fight:  Holland vs Chiesa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkky4VnE-X8
938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: September 14, 2023, 12:32:03 PM
Reading through the last couple of pages...  Lol.  Well that escalated real quick.  Cheesy

Let's just move on.  I think a lot of guys will be seething once Rollbit does what I think they'll be doing.  I won't say what it is exactly but let's just say the fall of FTX left a big hole that's left unfilled.  Wink

And I also wanna say congrats to the 4 guys who are freerolling the pool.  Beers on you if you get to the big money prizes.  Leeezzzz gooo!

939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 13, 2023, 01:09:10 PM
Nope, Adesanya had no say on who he'll fight next.  That's not how it works in the UFC.  It's the UFC that proposes an opponent and it's up to the fighter if chooses to sign the contract or not.  DDP was the first guy who got the offer to fight Adesanya but DDP refused because as he said, he wouldn't have had enough time to prepare as he just fought Whittaker at the time.  So on they went to give Strickland the offer which he immediately accepted.

As a champion he probably had some say, i.e. if he refused to fight someone, UFC would find him someone else, maybe on a different date. UFC had quite a few fussy fighters, who were picky about who and when they wanted to fight (e.g. Jon Jones or GSP).
Obviously, since Volkanovski couldn't fight in Sydney this time, they needed some other Australian-enough star to headline the main event - Adesanya. And Strickland, who prides himself in accepting any fight, was the 2nd best opponent for Izzy, after DDP.
Strickland, on paper, was a very convenient rival for Izzy (proved by bookies' odds), so I'm sure he was very happy to sign the contract.

Oh for sure a title holder who has a lot of pull and some clout like McGregor could pull some strings and get what he wants.  Adesanya could be one of those guys and prolly Volk and Jon Jones.  Guys who could sell PPV's...  And yes, fighters have a choice if they want to sign up for the fight or not.  That's why we have the interim title in the UFC.  It's when the champ doesn't want to accept any fight but the UFC doesn't want to stop the division from progressing.

Here's another free fight from Shev.

UFC Free Fight:  Shev vs Murphy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSpjmHNIlps
940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: September 13, 2023, 12:59:26 PM
I think Pochettino has a mindset which enables him to get past any criticism directed at himself and his team from the media. The issue is about what happens if it is from the fans or from the board because at that point he will be tested. He was loved by the Southampton and Tottenham fans but he did not receive adulation at PSG. Now he is at Chelsea which is a club that has very impatient fans but I expect they will appreciate what he brings to the club.

The previous Chelsea owner hired and fired managers at record speed but the new owner is looking for long term stability. He made a mistake when he chose Potter but appointing Pochettino is not a mistake.

Do you think one day we will see "Boehly Out" banners? Highly unlikely but you never know. The man has invested heavily to first buy the club and then invested in players without hesitation. Every team around the world would happily accept to be funded to the amount he has funded Chelsea.

Chelsea needs to do it now or the negative momentum for them is gonna be a btch.  The negativity is gonna creep in and spread to the whole squad and before you know it fans are flying 'Poch Out' banners at home fixtures.  Cheesy  Kidding about the Poch Out banners but we've seen what happened to Tuchel and Potter...  Two capable managers who could win the league imho.

So yeah, their next match should be a good get back on track spot even if it's an away fixture.

Yeah..  I guess we'll just have to see in the next couple of matches with the next one vs Bournemouth a very critical one.  I mean we've seen it a lot of times before, we expect a good club to finally turn things around but it's like catching a falling knife.  You thought you bought the dip but forgot about the dip to the dip to the dippity dip.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Anyway, what do you guys think of these bets...  LFC and Spurs parlay at 1.84.  Fulham and under 4.5 goals combo at 1.88.  Arsenal and under 4.5 goals combo at 1.85.  And here's a fun one, Man United double chance and BTTS combo at 1.94.  Grin
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