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2201  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2017, 03:21:58 AM
I think it will need 3 years of testing until block size can be increased to 2mb.

I'm not against it, I just think it should not be made in a hurry.

This requires lots of testing, they have to try sidechains, new codes and implementations. This takes time, you cant do that in just 3 months. You will need 3 years.
2202  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: mercado bitcoin dando golpe novamente on: August 20, 2017, 03:32:37 PM
Selfie é pra verificar conta, não pra fazer depósito. Isto tem na maioria das exchanges.

2203  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Mesmo em US$ 4 mil, Ainda é uma Bolha, Diz Peter Schiff Sobre o Bitcoin on: August 20, 2017, 03:29:35 PM
Bitcoin é a maior ameaça para o valor à longo prazo do ouro e etc, e ele como um investidor em metais preciosos é claro tem interesse que as pessoas fiquem com medo de trocar o ouro pelo Bitcoin


Apesar de já ser consagrado, acho que o ouro não seria desbancado pelo bitcoin, o bitcoin poderia até passar, mas o ouro já é algo consagrado.

O valor atual do ouro está muito abaixo do que ele realmente valeria se seguisse a inflação com relação à 200 anos atrás. Este valor foi dumpado pelos derivativos de ouro. Então se você compra ouro, na hora de vender vai receber menos do que pagou.

O marketcap do ouro é de 4 trilhões de dólares. Dizem que o bitcoin está valendo mais que uma onça de ouro, mas o limite do bitcoin é de 21 milhões de moedas. O ideal é que o bitcoin tenha um marketcap de 12 trilhões, 3x o valor do total de ouro, pois o valor do ouro atual está abaixo do seu valor real.
2204  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Preço do BitcoinCash não para de aumentar. Nada mais pode ser feito. on: August 20, 2017, 03:23:01 PM
Ainda bem que não dumpei os meus.

Sabe-se lá o que pode acontecer.

Vejam que no ethereum temos ETC e ETH.

E agora no bitcoin temos BTC e BCH.

E quem vale mais no ethereum? O que termina com H.



Neste caso a versão BCC é mais fiel ao design origial do que o próprio BTC, ao contrário do ETC que é a versão original do Ethereum


BCC/BCH é um modelo centralizador, então acho que está longe disso. Se você aumentar o bloco de 1mb pra 8mb, com o tempo vai precisar de 8x mais espaço em hd pra armazenar a blockchain, o que vai reduzir a quantidade de nós, concentrando o processamento em data servers imensos. Isso centralizaria a rede.
2205  Economy / Speculation / Re: $5000 is not far away from us ;D on: August 20, 2017, 04:01:35 AM
The price is frozen... whales are dumping it in stacks of 50btc each, in bearstamp, and using it to pump BCH.
2206  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Preço do BitcoinCash não para de aumentar. Nada mais pode ser feito. on: August 20, 2017, 03:32:04 AM
Ainda bem que não dumpei os meus.

Sabe-se lá o que pode acontecer.

Vejam que no ethereum temos ETC e ETH.

E agora no bitcoin temos BTC e BCH.

E quem vale mais no ethereum? O que termina com H.

2207  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Mcafee was really saying and how nuts is he? on: August 20, 2017, 03:22:14 AM
It is possible that in the future BTC will be the coin used for everyday transactions (with lighting network, satellites, etc), whereas BCH will be a reserve coin, used for stock markets and big money deals (banks, corporations, cartels, etc). BCH is centralized, Jihan controls it, and it looks similar to ETH which is controlled by Vitalik and is also backed by big corporations, oil trustees, etc, so it looks like it can gain support from such sectors.
2208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin cash become the true bitcoin ? on: August 20, 2017, 02:51:42 AM
If you're comparing ETH/ETC to BTC/BCH, then you should be saying that BTC is ETC and BCH is ETH. Ethereum "Classic" is the original blockchain. ETH is what forked off from it.

BTC is the original blockchain. BCH is what forked off from it.



Makes sense, and ETH is centralized as well. Also both ends with H, while the original ones ends with C.
2209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do u agree that Bitcoin will go to 500,000$ in 2020 by john Macafee claim ? on: August 20, 2017, 02:29:12 AM
McAfee meant Bitcoin Cash, not current Bitcoin. He later deleted the tweet. He only referred to Bitcoin Cash as to Bitcoin.

The problem is, bitcoin will probably only be a digital gold, that's why the bubble will pop, it won't be used by people, but OMG (OmiseGo) will take over the payment systems.

If u want to make real money, u should invest in OMG.
what is special in omg?

Omise processes around $500M of payments in SEA area every day, they, together with Ethereum founders are building new wallet for FIAT & crypto and payment system with its own blockchain called OmiseGo. Every customer of Omise will use OmiseGo when it's launched (merchants, shopping malls, etc), that means first widely used blockchain technology by people that don't need to know what blockchain is. It will be a decentralized exchange and wallet for every crypto and FIAT. If ethereum had 4000 % run, you can expect even more with OMG. Do your research about this, this is gonna get big. Every crypto personality including major crypto developers is already involved in OMG, but the market will only realize after it booms another 500 %. A lot of people went all in from Bitcoin to OMG because this is huge.

Bitcoin is digital gold, but the real payment system is yet to be developed.


This is the guy who predicted success of Ethereum, now predicts OMG.
https://pbg-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/editorial/pbo/201708/20170817-pbo-monthly.pdf

Anyway, read OmiseGo's reddit, twitter, read their website, get some info.

There is literally nothing with greater potential in Crypto market now. It has potential to rule the crypto world. It will also be proof-of-stake (like Ethereum, Vitalik, the founder of Ethereum is also behind OMG), so if you have enough coins, you will be able to passively earn some good money in the future.



What is the difference between OMG and WAVES? And between OMG and TENX?
2210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculators - at what price will you sell? on: August 19, 2017, 07:35:56 PM
I will sell when I can buy a house with one bitcoin.
2211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin: $100K in 2021? on: August 19, 2017, 06:44:32 PM
I hope that both BTC and BCH get to 100k each unit in 2019.

Yes.
2212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2017, 06:42:46 PM
I'll support whatever crypto ends being the "best" one.

Then you should be already balls-deep in LTC.  Grin


I have a LTC wallet and is the fastest I ever seem.

However, the price is always going down. That's why we cant have nice things.
2213  Economy / Speculation / Re: So where exactly are we in the bubble? on: August 19, 2017, 02:28:56 PM
Anyone who has studied classic Economics will tell you that bitcoin is a bubble, but he can develop and become a full-fledged currency. Such an experiment has already been carried out on the scale of one country. It was a company of MMM in Russia. Now her head is on the loose and maybe Satoshi is a pseudonym Mavrodi.

Yes but bitcoin is not a classic asset.

Bitcoin is a religion, that is what analysts are failing to perceive.
2214  Economy / Speculation / Re: So where exactly are we in the bubble? on: August 19, 2017, 01:04:01 PM
I only sold BCH that I have bought earlier, and got some profit.

The ones I received from the fork, are still intact.

I think BTC price will be tanked around 4000-4200 range for the next week, and it will only move upwards again after Ver and co. dump all or most of their coins for the BCH pump. By then, BCH will probably be on the same price range. Then both coins will start moving up past the 4000-4200 range.

2215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin "cash" - price speculation on: August 19, 2017, 02:26:34 AM
may be bch is altcoin ,so what ,i think holding btc and bch is the best choice.

I agree. I have been holding since I claimed them.

However, I bought some too, and sold today. Got a quick profit, due to the pump.

2216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2017, 12:36:04 AM
I want to thanks Ver and Wu for the recent BCH pump, made some extra from the trade. Thank you very much.

And BTC price is already back to normal. Good news.


2217  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Mesmo em US$ 4 mil, Ainda é uma Bolha, Diz Peter Schiff Sobre o Bitcoin on: August 18, 2017, 03:30:56 PM
Peter Schiff, um shill do mercado de prata. Lógico que ele vai dizer que é uma bolha.

Agora eu pergunto: existe mercado de prata no Brasil? Parece que não.

E como você vai comprar, sei lá, um carro com prata? Vai carregar um baú cheio de moedas de prata na rua? Vai comprar uma casa com uma kombi cheia de prata dentro?

Prata não é alternativa para o bitcoin. Você ainda terá que usar papel-moeda impresso pelos bancos centrais, com toda a inflação embutida.

A idéia por trás do bitcoin não é tê-lo apenas como asset, é para, daqui uns 5 ou 10 anos, poder usá-lo diretamente como moeda mesmo. Ele foi feito para isso, para substituir as moedas nacionais e inflacionárias.

2218  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2017, 03:12:16 PM
Ver and Wu just went full retard selling all of their BTC for an alt coin.

I noticed. That's the reason why BTC price has tanked around 4200-4300, despite the cup and handle projection.

They are dumping it and using the money to pump BCH. Fortunatelly I have both coins.

That's why I say that bitcoin is not a normal asset, but a religion.

And the religion have forked, now we have fundamentalists pumping the coin from the new church.
2219  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin correction is coming? on: August 17, 2017, 10:26:58 PM
There can be some correction, both from whales and from BCH camp, but it will be small dip. Price will eventually go up because there are too much people buying it now, there was a increasing of thousand of people subscribing to coinbase.

Nothing can stop bitcoin now. The only question is how to make use of the dips, how to predict them so that you can maximize your profit.
2220  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2017, 09:59:16 PM
Interesting this recent dump.

As I see in Bittrex, all my alts are falling hard, alongside bitcoin which is falling according to bitstamp.

Theres just one alt which is not falling, and this one is BCH, which I've got from the ABC wallet in another system. BCH is with 34.8% increase at the moment.

I'm used to two patterns: bitcoin up and alts down, and bitcoin down and alts up.

Now theres this third pattern: BCH up, and everybody else down.

Interesting. Let's see how this currency war will develop.
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