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1441  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bottom reached, next bull run... on: February 09, 2018, 01:09:29 AM
I think Karhu is appeased with our offerings of selling at the bottom.

Now we have to retest 7500 for some time, before going to the 9000s.
1442  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Show do Meritão! Valendo 1 milhão de Merits que valem mais que dinheiro! on: February 08, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
Acho meio difícil o Brasil proibir as criptomoedas, porém mesmo com a proibição continuaria operando, nem que fosse necessário mudar de país, talvez fosse para Porto Rico viver na "criptoutopia" e viver essa utopia ^^



Eu penso o contrário. É muito fácil proibirem aqui, pois muitos políticos tem aquela mentalidade arcaica e colonial.

Se proibissem, eu usaria tether na Bittrex, pois na maioria das vezes, eu quero recomprar numa baixa, mas como eu quase sempre me queimo com isso, saco da Foxbit pro banco. No caso de uma proibição, eu recompraria com as perdas, caso visse que não cairia mais, ou poderia sacar via localbitcoins. Mas aí é um processo mais lento, tem que esperar o outro usuário depositar dinheiro na conta, e não pode fazer com muita frequência, ou o banco desconfia.

Minha intenção é no futuro poder usar o bitcoin para comprar coisas, como uma moeda de fato. E eu acredito que mesmo com uma proibição, ainda teríamos boletadores no país, pois a perseguição se concentraria nas exchanges. É um cenário terrível, mas não podemos descartar, por isso não ataco o tether.
1443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (NEW 17th Jan: $4,100 bottom called) on: February 08, 2018, 01:06:56 PM
Dat bounce. Not even sure its gonna wait until April Wink


Theres no consolidation in the first chart, from Mt.Gox times. No red candle.

We had consolidation until the end of october, only then there was a bubble. Now we are going up slowly, and it will bounce up and down along the way.

Do you think we can reach 25k by march? Banks are saying they will buy bitcoin, and Im sure Wall Stret hedge funds were buying in november and december (although I dont believe anymore that they dumped it, it was the usual whales). If it is true, we can have a spike that will dwarf the previous bubble.
1444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
European Banks Could Soon Hold Bitcoin, Admits ECB President


And the final boss, will he let them do it?
1445  Economy / Speculation / Re: two ways to face the price drop on: February 08, 2018, 12:53:01 PM
Im feeling myself shit for not having sold at the top. It was a opportunity to have more bitcoins now. And I missed it.

Now Im trying to predict a top, but theres all this talk about banks going to buy bitcoin for its reserves, after that US senate meeting. So you sell and get burned as it can go higher. I still believe we will reach 25k by march.
1446  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2018, 02:52:15 AM
Kick this.  Kiss


Laughing hard at the second chart.

Exactly the opposite of what the bears are doing in other threads.

Both cases so explicit that I cant stop laughing... at least you dont make up with walltexts.
1447  Economy / Speculation / Re: China banned crypto, sell your BTC while you still can. on: February 08, 2018, 01:02:08 AM
China hell-bent on banning cryptos since it will undermine the government's control of the masses. Probably will hear that they will go the same way as India - creating a ChinaCoin maybe.


This is just the usual FUD. The chinese government do that on purpose just to accumulate more coins.

Remember, fear is the mindkiller. Just let it pass through you, touch your nerves and go away.
1448  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2018 Cryptocurrency Crash (Elliott Wave) on: February 08, 2018, 12:56:39 AM
How much capital have millenial generation? Didn't they already max out credit cards and accounts?


They dont have much.

But I cant say the same about their fathers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBqw1w79b10
1449  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Cuidado com Tether (USDT) Vídeo Fernando Ulrich on: February 08, 2018, 12:33:38 AM
Eu não estou contra o tether porque eu sei que, na eventualidade das criptos serem banidas no Brasil, eu poderei precisar dele.
1450  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2018 Cryptocurrency Crash (Elliott Wave) on: February 08, 2018, 12:20:26 AM
—2013-2015 was a cyclical (i.e. short-term) bear market which declined 85% in value; but in an overall secular (i.e. long-term) bull market.
—Whatever price patterns occurred in the 2013-2015 cyclical bear market, remain and are applicable to that market.
—However, fractals appear on multiple timescales, but those price patterns are indicative of structure —not time, nor price.
—The secular bull market from 2013-2017 is now over, and a secular bear market is underway probably elapsing 2017-2020.


2013-2015 was not short term for crypto, because the crypto market operates in a different time frame.

One day for crypto is like one month for stock markets. So when you see, for example, the dotcom bubble, theres 15 years for a recovery, whereas for crypto it would be 15 months. Crypto is much more fast, the time is shorter, and the generations requiring it are more immediatists than the generations used to stock markets. They want it for yesterday.

So 2013-2015 was a long bear market, like a 10-year period in stock bear markets. That's why you bears looks like doomsday callers, because some of you (the most noisy ones) came from those stock markets. You want to buy it cheap, but most of the demand for crypto is coming from immediatist generations who wants it FAST.

1451  Economy / Speculation / Re: Always Look on the Bright Side of Life on: February 07, 2018, 11:47:59 PM
November and december were a bubble, because there was no consolidation.

But not the other months. The growth from august to october was organic, people were involved, you could feel in the air.

Now we are going to retest 6000, 7500, 9000 and 12k. It can take months, but it will be healthy. Consolidation always is.
1452  Economy / Speculation / Re: THE BITCOIN CRASH LOOKS STRANGELY FAMILIAR on: February 07, 2018, 11:23:33 PM
Or, you could look at the 2013 bitcoin "bubble".. Took almost a year to get down to mining cost levels, stayed there for many months and then started to climb for the halving. Next one should be in 2020.


The 2013 bubble didnt have consolidations, it was straight up to the top, only green candles.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg29420259#msg29420259
1453  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
He's just big-boned.

1454  Economy / Speculation / Re: THE BITCOIN CRASH LOOKS STRANGELY FAMILIAR on: February 07, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
Looking to the dotcom chart, we can predict a fall to mining costs in two months, after a period of recovery. Then it will go up steady and have a small crash around november. After that, it will go only up.

This, if it repeats that chart. I dont think that will do, but is food for tought.
1455  Economy / Speculation / Re: THE BITCOIN CRASH LOOKS STRANGELY FAMILIAR on: February 07, 2018, 10:35:07 PM
If they will work in the same way, we will have 15 months until we are back to 20k.
1456  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin price falling down dramatically? on: February 07, 2018, 10:18:36 PM
Regular drop down from whales.

What happened is that, after futures got announced in late october, big money jumped in, resulting in those spikes in november and december. This tempted the whales to dump their reserves. Also some whales might have bet for shorts in futures too, so they dumped hard. The panic spread to the newbies, and then the market crashed.

1457  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 09:50:18 PM
How can i claim the other forks Huh I had iT on a electrum wallet, i cant claim btg beceause kraken doesnt
Support them But now its on ledger nano s....


I just discovered a better way right now. You use two apps, Bither and Bitpie. In Bither you go to "import private key", write it there, then click on "get fork coins", select the coin you want, the private key, and then it will ask for a Bitpie address to send them. In Bitpie you create a new address, and the forks will already be there, just click on "receive" for each fork (each have a different color), and it will give you an address, then sent the coins from Bither there.

Now the question is where to sell these altcoins for bitcoins. SBTC and BCD have few exchanges, but they are closed for deposits right now.

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@olsm/how-to-claim-bitcoin-diamond-bcd-super-bitcoin-sbtc-and-bitcoin-gold-btg

Move your bitcoin to a new wallet before doing that.
1458  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
I tried another copy of my previous wallet, and it worked now.

However, this copy had a segwit address in it. Dont know what happened, it is very strange because this segwit address was added after the fork, not before, as a experiment at the time.

The original wallet was bugged for no reason, there was no address in the addresses list, in the BTG version. The list was intact in the BTC version.

1459  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
What are you talking about? It does have replay protection. In fact BTG have different addressing than BTC.

What did you use to claim it?


I used the BTG qt wallet in their website.
1460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 07:09:40 PM
At least the crash made the fees go lower.

I was able to send bitcoin to a brand new wallet, to claim my BTG using the old one.

However, I just discovered today, after synching the entire BTG blockchain, that this altcoin have no replay protection.

All the operations were replayed in the BTG chain. Im very sad, cant reclaim it.

I will be more careful with those forks now.
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