12k, because any pump after 5k have banksters money on it.

First GS, and now JP Morgan, are buying stashes of it. When they dump, it will be hard. I think they will dump on 12k, because most people will think it will be in 10k, so the banksters will look for a non-round number. On 12k, a fall of 60% bring the price down to $4800, right where they probably started pumping it.

By that time, there was nothing to buy with bitcoin, there was no service accepting it, and there was only Mt.Gox as exchange, which centralized trading. When Mt.Gox fell, the ecosystem fell alongside it.

Now, the ecosystem is much more complex and decentralized. And any ATH is followed by corrections.

É a carteira padrão para rodar nós.

https://bitcoin.org/pt_BR/download

Tem que baixar a blockchain, o que leva alguns dias.

Muito bom. Espero que mais empresas se unam contra o S2X, principalmente as que lidam com wallets para smartphone.

Usuários de wallets para smartphone geralmente são leigos e não sabem o que está acontecendo, não acompanham a cena e quando tentam, ficam confusos. Basta este usuário gastar seu BTC em alguma compra casual e a merda já estará feita.

Se vocês conhecem alguém que tem bitcoins armazenados em smartphones, instrua-os a usarem o QT e manterem numa cold storage até a tempestade passar.

E as empresas de wallets para smartphone precisam fazer pressão para mudar o codigo SPV, para que o usuário possa escolher a blockchain que estará usando.

https://www.coindesk.com/money-risk-mobile-wallets-become-new-battleground-bitcoin-fork-debate/

A grande dificuldade é explicar para os leigos como proceder.

O ideal seria todas as empresas boicotarem, mas graças ao apoio da Coinbase várias empresas estão seguindo a S2X. Não há nada de relevante na S2X, pois a SegWit original já tem o limite aumentado de 1mb para 4mb, a S2X aumentaria este limite para 8mb e não tem necessidade disso, e ainda seria prejudicial para quem roda nós. Infelizmente a desinformação está correndo solta neste ataque de engenharia social contra a rede.

250k USD per BTC is very reasonable.

I hope that at least some of the whales have good hearts and put this money to good use, founding new enterprises that will shake the current establishment.

Bitcoin valuation is the corrosion of the modern "democratic" State, the model which sprang from the French Revolution, and which is heavily dependent on debt. The more this outdated model corrodes, the more bitcoin will go up.

The floor is still $5000. For it to be $6000 it will need consolidation, which may happen after few weeks.

Agora que eu não quero mais comprar, o deságio aparece.

Isso, vai lá confiar seus BTCs para um bot programado por terceiros.

2017, quase 2018 e ainda tem leigos (e espertalhões) falando em minerar BTC usando GPU.

I didnt see anything. 

I was moving between houses. 

I just noticed today that https://longforecast.com/bitcoin-price-predictions-2017-2018-2019-btc-to-usd is now including 2020 and 2021 in its daily predictions. At least today I can see a drop in price starting in 2020 and closing by november 2021 at the price level of february 2019.

So, what do you think, is a world war programmed to start by the second half of 2020? Would this make BTC price drop?

Old news.

Yes, yes, the swedish section of his bank is buying bitcoin by the thousands. I heard his bank is even being sued by the swedish government for financial cheating.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2242603.0

Now its my sides that got to teh m00n.

Bitcoin is cheap.

But Goldman Sachs is talking good about bitcoin, and they are banksters. How to explain that?

We will go to $7000 then back to $5000, this before the B2X fork. After that we maybe reach 10k by the end of the year.

Sidelined would be more healthy, but it is fucking boring. Rollercoasters are more exciting, and the more we go up, the higher will be the difference between ups and downs. Like when we reach 10k, floor be will be 7k, and when we reach 20k, floor will be 10k.

Hypermeme thinks we are still in MtGox times. By that time there was nothing to buy with bitcoin. Now its different, now we can buy houses, cars, yatches, all with bitcoin. In Dubai there are apartments for sale with bitcoins, I guess that they are even putting the addresses in the housing contracts. Now we have research on blockchain technology, both for corporations and governments, and we have teams working to find a solution to the credit card problem. We have LN coming, we have satelites, we have mass adoption in Japan.

So, there will be no crypto winter, despite what tinfoil-hat conspirationists might want.

This. Theft happened within the ethereum network, so they forked it to a state before the theft and people received their coins back. The same would happen with bitcoin, in case it have a massive stealing.

But in the case of ethereum, it was hackers who stole it. In this case, this FUDster is saying that the miners would steal it. Theres no reason why miners would do that, as they receive fees and rewards, and are supported by the network. If they would steal, the network would collapse and so would their profits.

The only way for a massive stealing would be someone hacking the second layer, the LN itself. But for this, it would require a centralized structure, like the one on the ethereum network. Guess what, bitcoin is decentralized, and is continuing to be so even after SegWit. And I dont think LN will be centralized as anyone will be able to run its nodes.

Now try to run Mist. I tried to synch it some months ago, spent three weeks with computer turned on 24/7, and never synched. Even tried Geth, it never worked. Ethereum is a centralized network, my computer cant run a node on it, whereas I run BTC and LTC nodes pretty well.

This can be detrimental to their reputation in the long term, as their "predictions" and "counsels" might not work. Who will trust him for financial counsel if bitcoin is always going up?

Maybe they are predicting the doomsday of the banking system and just want to make a fortune being whales in the new economy. In this way they keep their status and power, while the current banking structure collapses.