Cricket match prediction discussions

[Theones]

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

It is sad to see Pakistan going through the political turmoil and the after effects are seen all over.
Najam Sethi is one of the most corrupt Chairman cricket board had ever experienced. Ramiz Raja knew the game - and he has done a lot for the uplift of the cricket.

[bitgov]

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

Earlier this was much experienced with India, and now the same trend is getting around with rest of the Asian countries. Cricketing knowledge is a must to know the needs of the cricketers. Now the cricket boards were under the control of politicians and their kids. This will complete ruin the true spirit over sports.

It's not Asian Countries but it is the corrupt mindset of the underdeveloped countries.
It is very sad to see the name of Najam Sethi as the chairman cricket - he is close to Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif and they want to eat and get as much money as they could. Now they have all left the country because they know they have no future in Pakistan .

[Cryptock]

Who cares about things in subcontinent because we have culture like this mostly ruling parties are having influence few years back they were doing for their own party members now they are bringing their kids with alternative ways like we have Jay Shah who is currently controlling the BCCI and no one can challenge him because now it's multi-billion game in India specially after having 10 team in IPL and having more control in ICC.

In Pakistan, it's completely different because Pakistan is much behind in many ways even right now they are not near the Bangladesh which is currently Asian tiger in development and Pakistan is near the default problem but still they are breaking developments in PCB as well which will surely hurt the team performance as well I am feeling sad how they bring person like Najam Sethi as the chairman is worst for the PCB and cricket.

Actually no one would care about you if you don't care about yourself.
the world cares only about the powerful and successful - so unless and until the Asian countries wont care for themselves - they will remain like this.
Taking about new PCB chairman - I am sad to see what is going on in Pakistan. Earlier they dissolved good government and now they destroyed the good Chairman

[bitgov]

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

The Chairman should be the one from the field - Ramiz Raja was a good person knew his job well.
Now they have added Shahid Afridi with Najam Sethi - I was a big Afridi fan but his attitude toward the controversial people has made it clear birds of feather flock together.

[Tony116]

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Absolutely true. And democracy is by the people, of the people, and for the people. But the people are retarded. So that is why democracy is not going to be the way how any country or organization can flourish. At least as long as the people are retarded. And that’s exactly what is happening in the subcontinent.

The politicians wants their voters to be divided and retarded, pseudo nationalism or in the name of religion is how you earn the vote by creating a villain out of nothing and it was successful in the past and sadly it is successful even now. In the case of Pakistan the military has a major control in politics and that is how the system works.

We all see that politicians always say they are going to unite the nation and they are also going to do good for the people in every sector. Doesn't matter what cast or religion or race those people are. But the thing is the politicians themselves divide the nation. That's how they earn the majority of votes and get elected. The politicians are there only for that period of time that takes them to loot the country and they are in power as long as they are supporting some bullshit agendas like feminism and others.

Pakistan is definitely the worst example of democracy as nothing is selected by people of Pakistan ,  everything is kind if imposed and implemented forcefully by so called democratic leaders who came in power by corruption and illegally .
Pakistan has suffered alot because of the corruption and is still suffering ,as we are here to discuss cricket every decision in cricket board is taken on political and discrimination basis such as Najam Sethi.

Why are you blaming only Pakistan, i think the big cricketing countries in Asia are all in the same situation. Nowadays no cricket board can function without political interference. I see the same situation in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. But I can't say anything about Sri Lanka due to economic collapse. As far as I know about Bangladesh Cricket Board, BCB Board President has been in the same seat for more than 1 decade. He has no alternative. As a result, there is no major change in Bangladesh cricket. We should now accept the political dominance. Otherwise it is not possible to do anything in cricket.

I absolutely agree with @BobK71 because there is no reason to think this only happens in Pakistan. Let's take America as an example. Everyone thinks that America is the greatest country in the world. But actually, they are the ones trying to impose some dumb agenda's on people. And if we take those countries which play cricket regularly will see that the same thing is going on all over the world. Rigged elections everywhere. Democracy is being used by the people in power for the people in power.

[posi]

So let me get this straight. Just because cricket is the second most popular sport in the whole world.
So, it does not need to expand the number of teams that play in the World Cup?
And it also can be allowed to have corruption?

You clearly didn't understand my point. Expanding teams at this point isn't really necessary since many new teams have been improving and gaining ground in recent teams. Also, I hate corruption too, but you can never completely stop it.

90% of the audience for the IPL are Indians. Nice work, achieving global audiences.

90%? Lol. Majority are Indians for sure, but your 90% claim is silly and below link is just one example as to why.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/sports-trends/the-ipl-is-grabbing-more-eyeballs-in-the-uk-than-the-epl-6033551.html/amp
Do your research!

As far as I know, the viewership of IPL is around 400+ million around the world. And the number of people outside India watching the IPL is around 8 million.

And, expanding teams is necessary for the survival of cricket. What happens if suddenly India loses interest in cricket (hope that doesn't happen) which makes the majority of the revenue? Only by expanding teams, there will be more exposure, popularity, and revenue.

What a load of nonsense. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world and leagues like the IPL are some of the most popular and expensive leagues globally which is why your reasoning makes zero sense.
The ICC are just another corrupt organization who will continue focusing more on countries like India, Pakistan, Australia etc where cricket is extremely popular for financial reasons primarily.
However, they have been slowly and steadily diverting some of their focus towards new cricket friendly nations these days.

Money, Mafia and corruption is now a part of the society we can't avoid these things and life is also not easy without their involvement for the higher profile peoples now it's all in blood of this generation as many are having dream to be rich very quickly with few are achieving their goals with the help of technology and their genius minds, but most of they are trying to achieve these things with the involvement of this all.
I remember we have a soccer match between Diego Maradona and Michel Platini elevens for the spirit of the game and Diego Maradona's motto was drugs free sports and Michel Platini's motto was corruption free spots and after this match we have Diego Maradona involved in drugs and Michel Platini was sacked from UEFA for the involvement in corruption which is best picture of this all era so how can you expect ICC will be corruption free, and we will be having things on merit while we have countries like India and Pakistan.

Everyone knows how corrupt ICC and all the cricket boards are. We can understand that if we just look at the selection of some cricket boards. And we also know that ICC has some likings for those cricket boards which bring them a good amount of money. But my point is, they should at least invest in the smaller teams so that they can get better revenues from them later.

[Theones]

Who cares about things in subcontinent because we have culture like this mostly ruling parties are having influence few years back they were doing for their own party members now they are bringing their kids with alternative ways like we have Jay Shah who is currently controlling the BCCI and no one can challenge him because now it's multi-billion game in India specially after having 10 team in IPL and having more control in ICC.

In Pakistan, it's completely different because Pakistan is much behind in many ways even right now they are not near the Bangladesh which is currently Asian tiger in development and Pakistan is near the default problem but still they are breaking developments in PCB as well which will surely hurt the team performance as well I am feeling sad how they bring person like Najam Sethi as the chairman is worst for the PCB and cricket.

Najam sethi faces so much of the criticism - and yet he comes back every time
What is so good about him that the Nawaz government always find him as Chairman PCB and no other competent person. Now I realise why Shahid Afridi was so much again Imran Khan - he is in selection committee too. What a pity

[og kush420]

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

Earlier this was much experienced with India, and now the same trend is getting around with rest of the Asian countries. Cricketing knowledge is a must to know the needs of the cricketers. Now the cricket boards were under the control of politicians and their kids. This will complete ruin the true spirit over sports.

Who cares about things in subcontinent because we have culture like this mostly ruling parties are having influence few years back they were doing for their own party members now they are bringing their kids with alternative ways like we have Jay Shah who is currently controlling the BCCI and no one can challenge him because now it's multi-billion game in India specially after having 10 team in IPL and having more control in ICC.

In Pakistan, it's completely different because Pakistan is much behind in many ways even right now they are not near the Bangladesh which is currently Asian tiger in development and Pakistan is near the default problem but still they are breaking developments in PCB as well which will surely hurt the team performance as well I am feeling sad how they bring person like Najam Sethi as the chairman is worst for the PCB and cricket.

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee. But there are some people who are liking their decisions. One person comes and make some changes the other person comes and destroys it. what are your thoughts on Najam sethi being Chairman PCB

[SirLancelot]

As far as I know, the viewership of IPL is around 400+ million around the world. And the number of people outside India watching the IPL is around 8 million.

And, expanding teams is necessary for the survival of cricket. What happens if suddenly India loses interest in cricket (hope that doesn't happen) which makes the majority of the revenue? Only by expanding teams, there will be more exposure, popularity, and revenue.

In next one decade we are going to have nothing wrong about cricket in India because right now as mostly media saying cricket mad country which is true with the population of 1300+ Million things are doing amazing and under the leadership of Narendra Modi authority now thy are achieving new highs of development which is surely amazing and just in two decades IPL is currently second best sporting league around the world behind NFL and as things going I have feeling in next 10 to 15 years this league could be at the top of the world and with this now sporting authorities can do more development for other sports as well specially Basketball and Soccer both have good potential, and they can achieve better results which will bring new sporting culture and huge investments as well.

As current government doing developments, surely we will be able to cut many other barriers as well which are creating problems for few quick works and decisions which are not fruitful for the investors and other relative peoples.

[Tony116]

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

Earlier this was much experienced with India, and now the same trend is getting around with rest of the Asian countries. Cricketing knowledge is a must to know the needs of the cricketers. Now the cricket boards were under the control of politicians and their kids. This will complete ruin the true spirit over sports.

Who cares about things in subcontinent because we have culture like this mostly ruling parties are having influence few years back they were doing for their own party members now they are bringing their kids with alternative ways like we have Jay Shah who is currently controlling the BCCI and no one can challenge him because now it's multi-billion game in India specially after having 10 team in IPL and having more control in ICC.
In Pakistan, it's completely different because Pakistan is much behind in many ways even right now they are not near the Bangladesh which is currently Asian tiger in development and Pakistan is near the default problem but still they are breaking developments in PCB as well which will surely hurt the team performance as well I am feeling sad how they bring person like Najam Sethi as the chairman is worst for the PCB and cricket.

All the problems in Pakistan started with Imran Khan having problems with American politicians. Imran Khan has said that America told him if he does not give up his position as the political leader of Pakistan it will have consequences. And that's when all the problems started for Pakistan. I am not saying that Pakistan had a very good setup for cricket before this. But Pakistan was doing better at that time. But after Imran Khan got stripped of his power things started declining for Pakistan and that is also currently impacting the cricket of Pakistan right now.

[jaberwock]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee. But there are some people who are liking their decisions. One person comes and make some changes the other person comes and destroys it. what are your thoughts on Najam sethi being Chairman PCB

Now not only banned cricketers many others are also laughing on these movements and things which are happening in Pakistan because mostly feeling Pakistan is just a joke, and they are going down day by day not in politics with financial and many other facts are also creating problems for common peoples and those are love to work on merit because right now no human rights and other policies are working just powerful peoples are hijacking all system.

As example few days back a 15 years girl killed a labour and police not able to arrest her as his father is army colonel, so now you can imagine how things are going here in this jungle of Pakistan now they not only sacked Ramiz Raja they also terminate all rules and constitution of PCB mean every one want to work with his own rules and power its very simple thing happening right now.

[laurenB7742]

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

It's not all about democracy it's all about system which is more important as we have in developed countries and in many other countries those are not near the democracy but going with strong system here in subcontinent culture is completely handled by few groups which are doing wrong things and holding major stakes which is giving them all power, and they are not bringing system or merit policies which are important, and we have only three cricket boards with strong system and fair policy ECB, CA and CNZ they are having the best things for their players and peoples.

All other boards and sports organizations are suffering badly due to ethical and political systems, and they are suffering into game as well because recently we have big dropped in South African quality with Sri Lanka is also suffering badly due to poor system West Indies is already near the end due to personal issues and having not merit policy and going with quota system.

We think everything should be picture-perfect but at the same time, we are the ones selecting the corrupt officials and giving them power. And right now the problem has become big because there are no actually good politicians. All of them are corrupt in some way or another. And we have to make a choice between worse and worst.

We have corrupt officials and corrupt people in power and that is why everything is failing right now. I would also say that correct politicians are the reason why many Asian countries are failing as a society. The people who are in charge of the cricket boards in countries in Asia are also corrupt. So how can a team improve under the authority of corrupt personnel who going to think about themselves most of the time?

[BobK71]

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

It's not all about democracy it's all about system which is more important as we have in developed countries and in many other countries those are not near the democracy but going with strong system here in subcontinent culture is completely handled by few groups which are doing wrong things and holding major stakes which is giving them all power, and they are not bringing system or merit policies which are important, and we have only three cricket boards with strong system and fair policy ECB, CA and CNZ they are having the best things for their players and peoples.

All other boards and sports organizations are suffering badly due to ethical and political systems, and they are suffering into game as well because recently we have big dropped in South African quality with Sri Lanka is also suffering badly due to poor system West Indies is already near the end due to personal issues and having not merit policy and going with quota system.

We think everything should be picture-perfect but at the same time, we are the ones selecting the corrupt officials and giving them power. And right now the problem has become big because there are no actually good politicians. All of them are corrupt in some way or another. And we have to make a choice between worse and worst.

We have corrupt officials and corrupt people in power and that is why everything is failing right now. I would also say that correct politicians are the reason why many Asian countries are failing as a society. The people who are in charge of the cricket boards in countries in Asia are also corrupt. So how can a team improve under the authority of corrupt personnel who going to think about themselves most of the time?

When higher level officials are engaged in corruption, the effect is greater at lower levels. If the government of the country resort to corruption to come to power then nothing but corruption can be expected. How to keep an institution good if those who are in charge of the government are corrupt? Does anyone have an answer to this? Almost the same situation has emerged in every country, now nothing can be done except corruption. But if it can be reduced a little, it will give some comfort to everyone. However, with the change of days, the level of corruption will increase rather than decrease. No matter who is in charge of the board in cricket, cricket will remain full of corruption and will continue to do so for ages.

[Sithara007]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee. But there are some people who are liking their decisions. One person comes and make some changes the other person comes and destroys it. what are your thoughts on Najam sethi being Chairman PCB

I haven't read the post from Danish Kaneria. But with every passing day I am getting more and more skeptical about Najam Sethi. He was the chairman of PCB on two previous occasions (2013-2014, 2017-2018). On both occasions, he was appointed by Nawaz Sharif when Mamnoon Hussain was the president. And now Shehbaz Sharif has nominated him to the post for the 3rd time. He seems to be very close to the Sharif family. But apart from his closeness to the politicians, there is hardly anything worthwhile to talk about him. I just hope that all the hard work put in by Rambo doesn't get destroyed by Sethi. 

[Juggy777]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee. But there are some people who are liking their decisions. One person comes and make some changes the other person comes and destroys it. what are your thoughts on Najam sethi being Chairman PCB

I haven't read the post from Danish Kaneria. But with every passing day I am getting more and more skeptical about Najam Sethi. He was the chairman of PCB on two previous occasions (2013-2014, 2017-2018). On both occasions, he was appointed by Nawaz Sharif when Mamnoon Hussain was the president. And now Shehbaz Sharif has nominated him to the post for the 3rd time. He seems to be very close to the Sharif family. But apart from his closeness to the politicians, there is hardly anything worthwhile to talk about him. I just hope that all the hard work put in by Rambo doesn't get destroyed by Sethi. 

@Sithara007 I did see that post but to be honest this is Afridi’s moment to prove his critics wrong, but will he able to prove them wrong is something none of us can predict till he’s actually given some time in this new role of his.

Furthermore in my personal opinion Sethi starts with a clean chit, because the situation is totally different now and Pakistan cricket can grow a lot with the right support hence he’ll be foolish to do anything that can jeopardise their growth.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 I did see that post but to be honest this is Afridi’s moment to prove his critics wrong, but will he able to prove them wrong is something none of us can predict till he’s actually given some time in this new role of his.

Furthermore in my personal opinion Sethi starts with a clean chit, because the situation is totally different now and Pakistan cricket can grow a lot with the right support hence he’ll be foolish to do anything that can jeopardise their growth.

Well.. let's hope for the best. During his term, Rameez did a lot of good things. He resolved the issues between PSL franchise owners and PCB, convinced SENA nations to tour Pakistan, and started new franchise leagues such as PJL and WPSL. And more importantly he changed the format of domestic cricket as well. Najam Sethi doesn't need to do anything new. All the needs to do is to preserve the status quo. PCB achieved historic revenues under Rameez. Sethi needs to ensure that the revenue inflows continue and players (both national and domestic) benefit from it.

[mm2543363580]

@Sithara007 I did see that post but to be honest this is Afridi’s moment to prove his critics wrong, but will he able to prove them wrong is something none of us can predict till he’s actually given some time in this new role of his.

Furthermore in my personal opinion Sethi starts with a clean chit, because the situation is totally different now and Pakistan cricket can grow a lot with the right support hence he’ll be foolish to do anything that can jeopardise their growth.

Well.. let's hope for the best. During his term, Rameez did a lot of good things. He resolved the issues between PSL franchise owners and PCB, convinced SENA nations to tour Pakistan, and started new franchise leagues such as PJL and WPSL. And more importantly he changed the format of domestic cricket as well. Najam Sethi doesn't need to do anything new. All the needs to do is to preserve the status quo. PCB achieved historic revenues under Rameez. Sethi needs to ensure that the revenue inflows continue and players (both national and domestic) benefit from it.

Ramiz Raja was the best person for Pakistan cricket team and PCB  and he had done soo much during his short tenure for the establishment and growth of pskdPakistani cricket but there was one thing with him that brought him to this point that he was short tempered and he doesn't go politically at all. He gave daring statements on World Cup and ICC which was a problem for Pakistan cricket in long run.
So now whatever he has started and initiated will be leas by Najam Sethi hopefully in good dimensions.

[ZAINmalik75]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee.

I think Danish kaneria are is list of those who earn money by criticizing player and Management. He was fixer at his career time so I think his comment has no value for anyone. Everyone agree that it's bad decision of Pakistan government to remove ramiz and bring najam sethi the corrupt man ever. But now I am happy by his disicion of giving a spot of chief selector to Boom Boom Afridi, Shahid Afridi are the player who always perform in big stages for Pakistan and do more than his best and now as a chief selector his first decision of bringing back sarfaz ahmad also worth for Pakistan, so he will be helpful for Pakistan.

[Naficopa]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee.

I think Danish kaneria are is list of those who earn money by criticizing player and Management. He was fixer at his career time so I think his comment has no value for anyone. Everyone agree that it's bad decision of Pakistan government to remove ramiz and bring najam sethi the corrupt man ever. But now I am happy by his disicion of giving a spot of chief selector to Boom Boom Afridi, Shahid Afridi are the player who always perform in big stages for Pakistan and do more than his best and now as a chief selector his first decision of bringing back sarfaz ahmad also worth for Pakistan, so he will be helpful for Pakistan.

No one can doubt and question the credibility of Shahid Afridi , he has contributed alot to Pakistani cricket and his experience is accurate for chief selector as he knows cricketers in detail and thier good and bad points  . He is somehow part of cricket till now either its psl or tournaments he knows many things . He as a selector will chose what's best for Pakistan.
People are basically criticising him for his inclination and favour towards current government of Pakistan .

[wiss19]

I think Danish kaneria are is list of those who earn money by criticizing player and Management. He was fixer at his career time so I think his comment has no value for anyone. Everyone agree that it's bad decision of Pakistan government to remove ramiz and bring najam sethi the corrupt man ever. But now I am happy by his disicion of giving a spot of chief selector to Boom Boom Afridi, Shahid Afridi are the player who always perform in big stages for Pakistan and do more than his best and now as a chief selector his first decision of bringing back sarfaz ahmad also worth for Pakistan, so he will be helpful for Pakistan.

Even I have no soft feelings for the Dinesh Kaneria because of his involvement in spot fixing and having money for not doing his best during matches which is never been ideal thing for any sports person but still I have feeling giving spot to Shahid Afridi as Chief Selector has never been ideal because right now Pakistan had better cricketers for this spot like Younis Khan, Misbah ul Haq and many more those understand all things much better than Shahid Afridi because this is completely political posting instead of having any merit or any better thing.

But, as we all know how things working in Pakistan in last few years all is possible and talking too much about this all is completely useless because they have never been ideal or having world-class things just few players those can perform good for their few good successes in past is enough for them to cheer.