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[LTU_btc]

Damn, what a crazy final laps! Verstappen - he fully deserved to win, he was great today. But I'm so sad for Albon, he deserved to get his first career podium today. But I doubt that Hamilton will get penalty for it. Sainz also was great today - from P20 to P4, and he may appear on podium if Hamilton will get penalty.
And completely disaster for Ferrari. This time it was completely fault of Vettel. There should be some serious talks between drivers and team after race.
And Gasly - first his career podium in Toro Rosso. This season is very difficult for him, so he deserved it after all. It's crazy that he got podium driving not for Red Bull but for Toro Rosso.
EDIT
Hamilton got 5 second pemalty after race, so it means that Carlos Sainz is 3rd. If I'm not mistakem, it's first Mclaren podium since 2014.

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[coinlocket$]

Told you the end of this GP was crazy and WTF Ferrari (Vettel) did?
He lost his head seeing his hungry teammate, is time.

His contract will end next year, like the Hamilton one.

Gastly TOP 2 with Toro Rosso LOL

[joniboini]

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I wouldn't call him a legend but Lorenzo is a good rider. If only he doesn't get multiple injuries he might be able to compete until the last race. He's still young tho, hopefully he can enjoy his life after his retirement and do other things that he loves.

This shows why Rossi is such a boss and just love riding very much. If he gets a bike as fast as Marquez he might be able to compete for the title too.

[swogerino]

Pole position for Max Verstappen.
Second, place for Seb Vettel.
Third position Hamilton.

Fourth LeClerc but he will have 10 position penalty for the change of the engine and he will start from 14th.

Big news?? Hamilton without position for 9 GPs.

Even with the penalty Leclerc is going to reach the top 5 I think.
He has bigger advantage over other cars on the track so he is going to climb the ladder fast even in the first turns we are going to see him in the top 10.

Even top three (he's faster than Vettel in more races this year).  And he could even get the fastest lap.  

Anyway...  Just wondering, how much are you guys up (or down) betting on F1?  I think I'm doing it wrong.  Lol.

I bet sometimes on head to head on drivers I like,the odds are not good enough to make decent money if you win but these bets make watching the race on Tv more interesting.I couldn’t watch the race yesterday but betting on Verstappen to finish ahead of the Ferraris would have been a good idea.

[Naida_BR]

Told you the end of this GP was crazy and WTF Ferrari (Vettel) did?
He lost his head seeing his hungry teammate, is time.

His contract will end next year, like the Hamilton one.

Gastly TOP 2 with Toro Rosso LOL

Incredible race in Brazil this weekend.
Such a bad move from Vettel and so bad strategy for Hamilton at Mercedes. I think Toto Wolff is everything on Mercedes.
Congrats to Redbull for the amazing race.

Driver of the day was Sainz for me as he was placed 3rd when starting from 20th position.

[tokeweed]

LTU_btc, post or pm me your BTC address...  We don't need to wait til the end of the season.  RBR's not gonna get enough points to top Ferrari at the table anyway.

And yup...  LOL_Ferrari.

[LTU_btc]

LTU_btc, post or pm me your BTC address...  We don't need to wait til the end of the season.  RBR's not gonna get enough points to top Ferrari at the table anyway.

And yup...  LOL_Ferrari.

I can confirm that I received BTC from you.
Thanks, mate!

[coinlocket$]

Binotto (Leader of Ferrari Sport) spoken yesterday with "we will do something important with drivers".

Today Elkan, leader of FCA spoken: "The Ferrari comes before drivers".
What do you think they will do with them??
I mean, I don't think they can fire them, for sure they cannot fire LeClerk, I have some doubt on Vettel but if they want to fire him they need to pay a lot of money (for sure) to him.

[Juggy777]

Binotto (Leader of Ferrari Sport) spoken yesterday with "we will do something important with drivers".

Today Elkan, leader of FCA spoken: "The Ferrari comes before drivers".
What do you think they will do with them??
I mean, I don't think they can fire them, for sure they cannot fire LeClerk, I have some doubt on Vettel but if they want to fire him they need to pay a lot of money (for sure) to him.

@coinlocket$ Ferrari should fire Vettle, and set an example to thier other drivers i.e. they need to perform or simply perish. There’s also no doubt that Vettle has been underperforming for quite a while now, and Ferrari would be better off without him. Indeed Vettles severance package will be huge, but if they don’t set an example now none of their drivers will take them seriously hence they need to take a bold decision and let Vettle go.

[swogerino]

Binotto (Leader of Ferrari Sport) spoken yesterday with "we will do something important with drivers".

Today Elkan, leader of FCA spoken: "The Ferrari comes before drivers".
What do you think they will do with them??
I mean, I don't think they can fire them, for sure they cannot fire LeClerk, I have some doubt on Vettel but if they want to fire him they need to pay a lot of money (for sure) to him.

The Ferraris have always been a team not setting good standards and by this I mean that sometimes they gave team orders which favored one driver over another.This was not permitted back then and I don’t think it is now although many teams still do it.This bad standard was set by Ferrari.
If they let Vettel go I wonder which driver is gonna replace him and immediately give to Ferrari the boost they expect.

[tokeweed]

LTU_btc, post or pm me your BTC address...  We don't need to wait til the end of the season.  RBR's not gonna get enough points to top Ferrari at the table anyway.

And yup...  LOL_Ferrari.

I can confirm that I received BTC from you.
Thanks, mate!

Cool cool...  Let's bet on something again next year. 

[LTU_btc]

Binotto (Leader of Ferrari Sport) spoken yesterday with "we will do something important with drivers".

Today Elkan, leader of FCA spoken: "The Ferrari comes before drivers".
What do you think they will do with them??
I mean, I don't think they can fire them, for sure they cannot fire LeClerk, I have some doubt on Vettel but if they want to fire him they need to pay a lot of money (for sure) to him.

It's difficult situation for Ferrari and it's hard to say what decision would be best for them. Firing one of drivers doesn't looks like a best solution currently. And it's obvious that none of them would agree to be 2nd driver, their ambitions is just too big. Team had serious talk with drivers after race, but I doubt that it helped much, because tension between them is big.
There was many similar cases like Senna and Prost, Webber and Vettel, Alonso and Hamilton and such thing never ended well for the team.

Cool cool...  Let's bet on something again next year. 

For sure!

[Naida_BR]

Binotto (Leader of Ferrari Sport) spoken yesterday with "we will do something important with drivers".

Today Elkan, leader of FCA spoken: "The Ferrari comes before drivers".
What do you think they will do with them??
I mean, I don't think they can fire them, for sure they cannot fire LeClerk, I have some doubt on Vettel but if they want to fire him they need to pay a lot of money (for sure) to him.

Ferrari handled the issues between their drivers so badly from the beginning of the season.
They had to declare who is the 1st driver and who is the 2nd one in the team. They didn't when we were early in the season and now they got the negative impacts of this mismanagement.

I don't think that Leclerc is going to be fired. Neither Vettel...

[tokeweed]

^  Do you guys remember what happened to Webber when Vettel rose the ranks at RBR?    Same thing that's happening to him now at Ferrari.  What goes around come around, I guess...

[Naida_BR]

^  Do you guys remember what happened to Webber when Vettel rose the ranks at RBR?    Same thing that's happening to him now at Ferrari.  What goes around come around, I guess...

True. As you can see Mercedes and Redbull have stated who is the 1st driver in the team.
In Ferrari I think that it is mostly Vettel's fault due to his bad performance this season Leclerc thought that he is the first driver in the team and this conflict arose.
Given that, Max is going to take the 3rd place in the Championship due to the conflict in Ferrari.

[1982dre]

It goes every year a little more worse with Vettel. Won't be suprised if he stops after this or maybe next season.

[swogerino]

It goes every year a little more worse with Vettel. Won't be suprised if he stops after this or maybe next season.

Maybe Vettel needs a change and leaving Ferrari as he has tried for several years with them without any success story.I think he would be better at another team but this is difficult as all the good teams have already signed drivers for the upcoming year so most probably the upcoming year will be the last year at Ferrari for him.

[Naida_BR]

It goes every year a little more worse with Vettel. Won't be suprised if he stops after this or maybe next season.

Maybe Vettel needs a change and leaving Ferrari as he has tried for several years with them without any success story.I think he would be better at another team but this is difficult as all the good teams have already signed drivers for the upcoming year so most probably the upcoming year will be the last year at Ferrari for him.

And if he leaves where should he go?
There are not competitive teams with no first driver at this time. The only team that he might join is McLaren, but the car is not so strong. He will be a middle class driver then fighting to be on the podium in every race. If that would be the case, he should better retire.

[LTU_btc]

It goes every year a little more worse with Vettel. Won't be suprised if he stops after this or maybe next season.

Maybe Vettel needs a change and leaving Ferrari as he has tried for several years with them without any success story.I think he would be better at another team but this is difficult as all the good teams have already signed drivers for the upcoming year so most probably the upcoming year will be the last year at Ferrari for him.

Yeah, he will have to stay in Ferrari and wait until his contract will expire. Now only Williams don't have drivers for upcoming season. But then, I'm not sure where he can go. Mercedes? No way! Maybe comeback to Red Bull? But it would be against Red Bull strategy to develop their own young drivers. Mclaren? Maybe, but seems that they are confident about them long term project with Norris and Sainz. I'm not even talking about other teams like Renault or Racing Point.
Maybe he should try himself in other Racing series like Le Mans, Indycar or even Dakar (like Alonso)?

[coinlocket$]

The last F1 Gp of this year is this week

These are results of 2018 according to Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Abu_Dhabi_Grand_Prix

Qualification

1    44    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    1:36.828    1:35.693    1:34.794    1
2    77    Finland Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    1:36.789    1:36.392    1:34.956    2
3    5    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    1:36.775    1:36.345    1:35.125    3
4    7    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    1:37.010    1:36.735    1:35.365    4

Race
1    44    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    55    1:39:40.382    1    25
2    5    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    55    +2.581    3    18
3    33    Netherlands Max Verstappen    Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer    55    +12.706    6    15
4    3    Australia Daniel Ricciardo    Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer    55    +15.379    5    12

This is a Mercedes track, they should have no problem here.

About the race it will be boring, low chances of overtakes.