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Hi guys.... I have (had ) 42 MSI rx 470 12 Sapphire Nitro+ 470 12 Sapphire reference 470 cards. Latelly ... all off them started falling like leaves. I mean they either die or burn up. 6 msi - 3 sapphire nitro and 2 sapphire reference cards died all during past 3 weeks.... Anyone else have that many breakdowns lately? I dont even know what to blame now. Bios mods... motherboards.... PSU or claymor v9 Sapphire reference cards all worked for 5 months with only 2 of them die before this nightmare.... Sapphire Nitro+ never broke for 5 months before this.... I recently purchased 30 MSI cards and 6 already dead in like 3 weeks.... they tend to bring out smoke while sapphire cards just die. My rigs are 6xGPU all (used to be.... LOL) motherboards are BTC PRO and Z97 fatality. PSU are Be quiet pro 2x 1200 and and Platimaxe's 1600. I used to use -96 core woltage in afterburner. I started thinking that might be the reason. But i changed it to 0 and 2 more cards died. SO im pretty much lost. Any ideas are welcome. Or maybe someone else has unusual high rate of failing cards recently? thats is creepy... can someone confirm these die rates? maybe you have a bad setup of power distribution or yours psu are failing
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April 21, 2017, 08:35:45 PM |
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Hi guys.... I have (had ) 42 MSI rx 470 12 Sapphire Nitro+ 470 12 Sapphire reference 470 cards. Latelly ... all off them started falling like leaves. I mean they either die or burn up. 6 msi - 3 sapphire nitro and 2 sapphire reference cards died all during past 3 weeks.... Anyone else have that many breakdowns lately? I dont even know what to blame now. Bios mods... motherboards.... PSU or claymor v9 Sapphire reference cards all worked for 5 months with only 2 of them die before this nightmare.... Sapphire Nitro+ never broke for 5 months before this.... I recently purchased 30 MSI cards and 6 already dead in like 3 weeks.... they tend to bring out smoke while sapphire cards just die. My rigs are 6xGPU all (used to be.... LOL) motherboards are BTC PRO and Z97 fatality. PSU are Be quiet pro 2x 1200 and and Platimaxe's 1600. I used to use -96 core woltage in afterburner. I started thinking that might be the reason. But i changed it to 0 and 2 more cards died. SO im pretty much lost. Any ideas are welcome. Or maybe someone else has unusual high rate of failing cards recently? thats is creepy... can someone confirm these die rates? maybe you have a bad setup of power distribution or yours psu are failing i had one of my msi rx480 sparkle and burn in front of me when booting up my system after a power outage. realized the pcie riser had some burn on it, it was a version 003. when running hwmonitor the voltage were spiking to like 500000 ! at first though it was a glitch but then i thrwe them all away and got new risers, v007 this time and hwmonitor reports normal voltage value, no more spiking to 500000+ . So i would suggest double checking your pcie risers, they may be the faulty part causing that problem
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Hi guys.... I have (had ) 42 MSI rx 470 12 Sapphire Nitro+ 470 12 Sapphire reference 470 cards. Latelly ... all off them started falling like leaves. I mean they either die or burn up. 6 msi - 3 sapphire nitro and 2 sapphire reference cards died all during past 3 weeks.... Anyone else have that many breakdowns lately? I dont even know what to blame now. Bios mods... motherboards.... PSU or claymor v9 Sapphire reference cards all worked for 5 months with only 2 of them die before this nightmare.... Sapphire Nitro+ never broke for 5 months before this.... I recently purchased 30 MSI cards and 6 already dead in like 3 weeks.... they tend to bring out smoke while sapphire cards just die. My rigs are 6xGPU all (used to be.... LOL) motherboards are BTC PRO and Z97 fatality. PSU are Be quiet pro 2x 1200 and and Platimaxe's 1600. I used to use -96 core woltage in afterburner. I started thinking that might be the reason. But i changed it to 0 and 2 more cards died. SO im pretty much lost. Any ideas are welcome. Or maybe someone else has unusual high rate of failing cards recently? thats is creepy... can someone confirm these die rates? maybe you have a bad setup of power distribution or yours psu are failing i had one of my msi rx480 sparkle and burn in front of me when booting up my system after a power outage. realized the pcie riser had some burn on it, it was a version 003. when running hwmonitor the voltage were spiking to like 500000 ! at first though it was a glitch but then i thrwe them all away and got new risers, v007 this time and hwmonitor reports normal voltage value, no more spiking to 500000+ . So i would suggest double checking your pcie risers, they may be the faulty part causing that problem Not the GPUs fault if there was a power outage. During a power outage the voltage might sag and run at 80Volts instead of 120Volts and causes all electrical components to fail because they pull more current to make up the difference, this in turn causes parts to explode.
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April 22, 2017, 01:46:49 AM Last edit: April 22, 2017, 02:39:18 AM by Apneal |
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Claymore,
Your miner does not work for me on new RX 580, just crashes on launch. Here's log:
21:43:33:206 2a18 args: -epool us1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -epsw x -ethi 1 -mode 1 -asm 0 21:43:33:206 2a18 21:43:33:206 2a18 ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ» 21:43:33:222 2a18 º Claymore's Dual ETH + DCR/SC/LBC/PASC GPU Miner v9.1 º 21:43:33:222 2a18 ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍͼ 21:43:33:222 2a18 21:43:33:425 2a18 ETH: 1 pool is specified 21:43:33:425 2a18 Main Ethereum pool is us1.ethermine.org:4444 21:43:33:925 2a18 OpenCL platform: Intel(R) OpenCL 21:43:33:925 2a18 OpenCL platform: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing 21:43:33:941 2a18 OpenCL initializing...
21:43:33:941 2a18 AMD Cards available: 1 21:43:33:941 2a18 GPU #0: Ellesmere, 8192 MB available, 36 compute units 21:43:33:941 2a18 GPU #0 recognized as Radeon RX 480 21:43:33:941 2a18 POOL/SOLO version 21:43:33:941 2a18 b327 21:43:33:941 2a18 Platform: Windows
Tried asm 0 and 1, tried ethi 1 and 10. Using new drivers required for RX 580.
I tried reinstalling the RX 480 and same issue now. Only difference is updating to newest drivers required for the RX580.
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April 22, 2017, 02:37:41 AM Last edit: April 22, 2017, 10:41:29 PM by mprep |
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I am running 144 sapphire rx 470 8g and rx 480 8g cards and have been since Christmas. I have lost 5 cards in that time mostly due to running them too hard. I have backed down on my DCR production to reduce total amp load on the cards and have not lost any in the past month. If you have a rash of failures it is most likely due to a power spike or a variable power feeding your system and not a single power supply or set of risers, although cheap risers can fail at an alarming rate. The nice thing is that even though my cards run a mod'd bios the manufacture has replaced every one without question, so I continue to stick with Sapphire and I am expecting my first batch of rx 570 8g cards tomorrow to see how they perform. Has anyone had any experience with the new cards that they can share in regards to performance differences and set up changes from the rx 470 8g cards they have?
Hi people, first sorry for my bad english, my problem is that i buy 4 saphire nitro (no plus) RX480 8GB, and i think i did a very bad buy becouse this model https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VSWDK2H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 it has only 1750 mhz of memory clock and i think that it dosent have doble bios option. I buyed becouse i did not know that there where 3 diferents models of nitros... my question is, how much less hashrate will i have with claymores miner? and does standart bios mod for nitro+ work in this version or do i need a different one? PD: I read that peoples gpus are dying for using dual miner ether/+ and for mod the bios, i do not want to happen to me, does it really damaged your card to mod the bios and do dual coin mine? - Its not a BAD card. Its is a cheap card. This is why you chose it in the first place. So you already saved some money. Why regret now? - You still can mod Bios. But modify it yourself rather than use someonelse's. Follow step by step instructions bit by bit (can be easily found via google). - You should ask questions on the forums where you read "that peoples gpus are dying for using dual miner". I did not see anything like that in this thread. I bought 6 of these cards because I did not notice they were not Nitro+ cards, and I could not return them once I got them, so I run them at 24 MH/s on ETH and 1000 MH/s on DCR. Have you found a good way to mod them to get more, because everything I tried just made these pieces of crap trip out? So I use Claymore's program to adjust the voltage and clocks down and get what I can until the cards die. I would love to find a set up that is stable and delivers better performance.
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April 22, 2017, 03:35:28 AM |
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For the people talking about burning up equipment...
One easy way to check is check the heat temperatures of the cables running to your riser, especially the Molex. Are they hot to the touch?
Heck, I also run extra power from one room to another via extension cord. Do you have a 16 gauge or 12 gauge contractor grade extension cord? The 12 gauge contractor cord is rated for 1600 watts. The 16 gauge which looks similar is thinner and only rated for 1250 and if I got it close to 1250 I noticed the whole extension cord was getting warm.
They make tools to check temperatures. You can get really basic ones for only $20. Look up "infrared thermometer" on Amazon. You point it at a part of your equipment and it will show you the temperature. They also sell high-end ones that show you visually heat so you can run it over all your equipment and easily "see" hot spots.
If you can find a problem this way you can fix it before things go bad.
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April 22, 2017, 03:45:48 AM |
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For the people talking about burning up equipment...
One easy way to check is check the heat temperatures of the cables running to your riser, especially the Molex. Are they hot to the touch?
Heck, I also run extra power from one room to another via extension cord. Do you have a 16 gauge or 12 gauge contractor grade extension cord? The 12 gauge contractor cord is rated for 1600 watts. The 16 gauge which looks similar is thinner and only rated for 1250 and if I got it close to 1250 I noticed the whole extension cord was getting warm.
They make tools to check temperatures. You can get really basic ones for only $20. Look up "infrared thermometer" on Amazon. You point it at a part of your equipment and it will show you the temperature. They also sell high-end ones that show you visually heat so you can run it over all your equipment and easily "see" hot spots.
If you can find a problem this way you can fix it before things go bad.
very good tip the infrared gun
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April 22, 2017, 06:15:05 AM |
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is this to much incorect shares for ether? rig is stable as rock for almost a week speed fluctates too much for my taste, but that is "normal" on rx400 series, on pool average hashrate is 6-7 mhs lower than reported, i think it's ok What are your timings when you ping pool addresses? Why do you have that many pool reconnections?
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April 22, 2017, 06:21:23 AM |
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Hi people, first sorry for my bad english, my problem is that i buy 4 saphire nitro (no plus) RX480 8GB, and i think i did a very bad buy becouse this model https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VSWDK2H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 it has only 1750 mhz of memory clock and i think that it dosent have doble bios option. I buyed becouse i did not know that there where 3 diferents models of nitros... my question is, how much less hashrate will i have with claymores miner? and does standart bios mod for nitro+ work in this version or do i need a different one? PD: I read that peoples gpus are dying for using dual miner ether/+ and for mod the bios, i do not want to happen to me, does it really damaged your card to mod the bios and do dual coin mine? - Its not a BAD card. Its is a cheap card. This is why you chose it in the first place. So you already saved some money. Why regret now? - You still can mod Bios. But modify it yourself rather than use someonelse's. Follow step by step instructions bit by bit (can be easily found via google). - You should ask questions on the forums where you read "that peoples gpus are dying for using dual miner". I did not see anything like that in this thread. I bought 6 of these cards because I did not notice they were not Nitro+ cards, and I could not return them once I got them, so I run them at 24 MH/s on ETH and 1000 MH/s on DCR. Have you found a good way to mod them to get more, because everything I tried just made these pieces of crap trip out? So I use Claymore's program to adjust the voltage and clocks down and get what I can until the cards die. I would love to find a set up that is stable and delivers better performance. These cards do not require a special treatment. Deal with them as other people deal with their 480 4GB. What are your current settings? What have you tried? What settings do crap out?
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April 22, 2017, 06:54:46 AM |
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Hi people, first sorry for my bad english, my problem is that i buy 4 saphire nitro (no plus) RX480 8GB, and i think i did a very bad buy becouse this model https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VSWDK2H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 it has only 1750 mhz of memory clock and i think that it dosent have doble bios option. I buyed becouse i did not know that there where 3 diferents models of nitros... my question is, how much less hashrate will i have with claymores miner? and does standart bios mod for nitro+ work in this version or do i need a different one? PD: I read that peoples gpus are dying for using dual miner ether/+ and for mod the bios, i do not want to happen to me, does it really damaged your card to mod the bios and do dual coin mine? - Its not a BAD card. Its is a cheap card. This is why you chose it in the first place. So you already saved some money. Why regret now? - You still can mod Bios. But modify it yourself rather than use someonelse's. Follow step by step instructions bit by bit (can be easily found via google). - You should ask questions on the forums where you read "that peoples gpus are dying for using dual miner". I did not see anything like that in this thread. I bought 6 of these cards because I did not notice they were not Nitro+ cards, and I could not return them once I got them, so I run them at 24 MH/s on ETH and 1000 MH/s on DCR. Have you found a good way to mod them to get more, because everything I tried just made these pieces of crap trip out? So I use Claymore's program to adjust the voltage and clocks down and get what I can until the cards die. I would love to find a set up that is stable and delivers better performance. These cards do not require a special treatment. Deal with them as other people deal with their 480 4GB. What are your current settings? What have you tried? What settings do crap out? Can you do BIOS mod with those non + cards?
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April 22, 2017, 07:37:13 AM Last edit: April 22, 2017, 07:57:54 AM by Chugumoto |
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If you use "-asm 0" you won't see problems with floating speed.
miner 9.1, -asm 0, driver 17.2.1, RX480 http://prnt.sc/ezfa9j
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April 22, 2017, 08:15:49 AM |
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@Claymore, I have a small feature request with ethmon. I'm sure many others here would like this option too if possible. "Execute .BAT file if miner has problems" Can we separate this into 3 separate batch files? One that runs if there are GPU temp issues One that runs if there are hash rate issues One that runs if the rig goes offline If you could implement this, I would be grateful Thanks again for an awesome miner!
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Qazo
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April 22, 2017, 08:36:35 AM |
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is this to much incorect shares for ether? rig is stable as rock for almost a week speed fluctates too much for my taste, but that is "normal" on rx400 series, on pool average hashrate is 6-7 mhs lower than reported, i think it's ok What are your timings when you ping pool addresses? Why do you have that many pool reconnections? how i can do that?
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April 22, 2017, 09:09:37 AM Last edit: April 22, 2017, 09:24:13 AM by Claymore |
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If you use "-asm 0" you won't see problems with floating speed.
miner 9.1, -asm 0, driver 17.2.1, RX480 Hmm, I did not change GPU kernels for "-asm 0" mode for a long time, so you must see this issue in v8.x too. Anyway, upcoming fix is for ASM mode only. @Claymore, I have a small feature request with ethmon. I'm sure many others here would like this option too if possible. "Execute .BAT file if miner has problems" Can we separate this into 3 separate batch files? One that runs if there are GPU temp issues One that runs if there are hash rate issues One that runs if the rig goes offline If you could implement this, I would be grateful Thanks again for an awesome miner! It can be achieved with additional parameter to BAT file that EthMan calls. Ok I will add it.
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April 22, 2017, 09:55:20 AM |
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@Claymore, I have a small feature request with ethmon. I'm sure many others here would like this option too if possible. "Execute .BAT file if miner has problems" Can we separate this into 3 separate batch files? One that runs if there are GPU temp issues One that runs if there are hash rate issues One that runs if the rig goes offline If you could implement this, I would be grateful Thanks again for an awesome miner! It can be achieved with additional parameter to BAT file that EthMan calls. Ok I will add it. If this is already achievable, can you show us a batch file example on how to separate the 3 different error events? I have already created a batch file which sends me an email and alerts me of which rig in my farm is having issues. I have been using this method for a few months now, as its quicker and allows for less downtime to have ethmon alert me than waiting almost an hour for the pool to alert me. However, it would be nice to know the specific problem the rig is having (whether it be overheat, hash rate, or offline). Thanks again
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April 22, 2017, 10:14:07 AM |
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Guys. Everywhere there is a notice drivers 15.12 are REQUIRED. It is a really MUST for the best compatibility? I downloaded 15.12 but were absolutely unable to install them. Now running on 16.9.1... Hash speed is floating, it drops to 12-19 MH, from 28 MH, very often. I have modded bios (just copied timings from 1750 to 2000 field).
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April 22, 2017, 11:12:36 AM |
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You can't use 15.12 with rx400 and rx500 series. 15.12 are for older cards: r9, fury and so on.
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April 22, 2017, 12:00:21 PM |
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Hey guys I'm now into mining for like 3 weeks - everything running fine so far (I assume) Now a question got into my mind: Since I'm mining on my gaming rig with a 480 while I'm not playing I thought about getting a additional 470/480 and plug it into my pc. I'm aware of the feature to stop GPU0 with pressing 0. Will I then be able to game on GPU0 while the second card is mining in the background?
It will depend on your cards settings, overall stability, mem & CPU usage but yes. You should be able to do that. No problem... Also use "-di 123.." and do not start miner on card 0 at all
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April 22, 2017, 12:09:00 PM |
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If you use "-asm 0" you won't see problems with floating speed.
miner 9.1, -asm 0, driver 17.2.1, RX480 http://prnt.sc/ezfa9jBut drivers 17.2.1 does not require signature if the bios is edited?
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April 22, 2017, 12:09:46 PM |
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Guys. Everywhere there is a notice drivers 15.12 are REQUIRED. It is a really MUST for the best compatibility? I downloaded 15.12 but were absolutely unable to install them. Now running on 16.9.1... Hash speed is floating, it drops to 12-19 MH, from 28 MH, very often. I have modded bios (just copied timings from 1750 to 2000 field).
Use 16.11.4 for modded rx400 series. (16.9.2 also good) Anything starting from 16.9.1 will normally do. After 16.12 the bois sig is on, so no support for modded cards without patching the drivers
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