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April 18, 2017, 04:58:26 PM |
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What is going to be the difference? better hashrate? less power?
Thanks for your work @claymore
We are all hoping for 5-10% hashrate boost and 5-10% power reduction Probably will see better results on coins that utlize core, more than mem. Edit: Just checked some test and 5xx are produced in the same process, so power draw will remain the same at same clocks. Disappointed. TDP is 30W higher, also for example RX570 has 1x8pin plus 1x6pin, it does not look for better power consumption...
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jackbox
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April 18, 2017, 05:04:44 PM |
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What is going to be the difference? better hashrate? less power?
Thanks for your work @claymore
We are all hoping for 5-10% hashrate boost and 5-10% power reduction Probably will see better results on coins that utlize core, more than mem. Edit: Just checked some test and 5xx are produced in the same process, so power draw will remain the same at same clocks. Disappointed. TDP is 30W higher, also for example RX570 has 1x8pin plus 1x6pin, it does not look for better power consumption... Seems like the 470s are still the ones to buy for mining.
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Ursul0
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April 18, 2017, 05:17:38 PM |
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Miners are often recognised as viruses. Don't worry. Just make an exception in your AV software. Or one good question, why you need AV on mashine what is used for mining? Every AV can take 30-40% of your CPU so i would not have AV there. This is simply not true! Antivirus is a must on every device connected to the internet. No, what you said isn't true - AV is near worthless if you know what you're doing. It's also useless for other reasons. 1) general invasiveness of A/V may lead to harm of your PC more often than not 2) CPU resources, HD resources and wearing off moving parts wasted 3) It actually does nothing for the most dangerous shit out there, but can provide false sense of security From my professional experience with PCs (likely longer than the lifetime of some of the AV advocates here) the only time I had a real virus was in 2003, when win2k had an RPC hole massively exploited. Also it was at the same time that I had corporate machines (IBM thinkpads) with AV pre-installed... well and obviously it did nothing to prevent the infection... EDIT: And I'm not even talking about intentional false positives, 'viruses' exclusively caught by a certain AV sw and the rest.
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Xardas2014
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April 18, 2017, 05:49:19 PM |
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An A/V only detects KNOWN virii, not the 0-day stuff which is the most dangerous. If having an A/V makes you feel better, then go for it. But don't be fooled into thinking it will stop a malicious attack.
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almirfiorio
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April 18, 2017, 06:39:12 PM |
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you have rx570 ? is better? Is it worth changing the rx480 for rx570?
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fr4nkthetank
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
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April 18, 2017, 06:55:21 PM |
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I feel people who have norton or other AV's usually have more problems than me, who has none. how you use the internet I suppose. Also some people are stupid with computers. in related news, does the rx570/580 modded bios work right off the bat with the newest drivers, or does it work with the older 16.11 or whatever drivers ? I havent ordered any just curious about the signature check
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Biodom
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April 18, 2017, 07:10:01 PM |
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What is going to be the difference? better hashrate? less power?
Thanks for your work @claymore
We are all hoping for 5-10% hashrate boost and 5-10% power reduction Probably will see better results on coins that utlize core, more than mem. Edit: Just checked some test and 5xx are produced in the same process, so power draw will remain the same at same clocks. Disappointed. TDP is 30W higher, also for example RX570 has 1x8pin plus 1x6pin, it does not look for better power consumption... not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself.
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Xardas2014
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April 18, 2017, 07:27:56 PM |
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What is going to be the difference? better hashrate? less power?
Thanks for your work @claymore
We are all hoping for 5-10% hashrate boost and 5-10% power reduction Probably will see better results on coins that utlize core, more than mem. Edit: Just checked some test and 5xx are produced in the same process, so power draw will remain the same at same clocks. Disappointed. TDP is 30W higher, also for example RX570 has 1x8pin plus 1x6pin, it does not look for better power consumption... not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself. Why couldn't you? An EVGA 1300 has 9 VGA connections, which is certainly enough to connect 6 GPU's.
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Elder III
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April 18, 2017, 07:28:55 PM |
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The 500 series looks to be worse for mining since they consumer more power for minimal gains. They may undervolt to the point of being equal H/W, but the price to purchase them is higher (for now) so I'd stick with the 400 series.
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Elder III
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April 18, 2017, 07:30:08 PM |
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What is going to be the difference? better hashrate? less power?
Thanks for your work @claymore
We are all hoping for 5-10% hashrate boost and 5-10% power reduction Probably will see better results on coins that utlize core, more than mem. Edit: Just checked some test and 5xx are produced in the same process, so power draw will remain the same at same clocks. Disappointed. TDP is 30W higher, also for example RX570 has 1x8pin plus 1x6pin, it does not look for better power consumption... not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself. Why couldn't you? An EVGA 1300 has 9 VGA connections, which is certainly enough to connect 6 GPU's. That Sapphire he mentions uses 6pin + 8pin connectors, so you would need 12 VGA connectors from the PSU in order to run 6 of that GPU.
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Xardas2014
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April 18, 2017, 07:35:26 PM |
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What is going to be the difference? better hashrate? less power?
Thanks for your work @claymore
We are all hoping for 5-10% hashrate boost and 5-10% power reduction Probably will see better results on coins that utlize core, more than mem. Edit: Just checked some test and 5xx are produced in the same process, so power draw will remain the same at same clocks. Disappointed. TDP is 30W higher, also for example RX570 has 1x8pin plus 1x6pin, it does not look for better power consumption... not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself. Why couldn't you? An EVGA 1300 has 9 VGA connections, which is certainly enough to connect 6 GPU's. That Sapphire he mentions uses 6pin + 8pin connectors, so you would need 12 VGA connectors from the PSU in order to run 6 of that GPU. Maybe he is calling the included EVGA cables that have two 8pin connectors "splitters". *shrugs* I have a boat load of the EVGA 1300's and they run 7 cards rigs all day long.
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Biodom
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April 18, 2017, 07:46:23 PM |
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not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself.
Why couldn't you? An EVGA 1300 has 9 VGA connections, which is certainly enough to connect 6 GPU's. That Sapphire he mentions uses 6pin + 8pin connectors, so you would need 12 VGA connectors from the PSU in order to run 6 of that GPU. Maybe he is calling the included EVGA cables that have two 8pin connectors "splitters". *shrugs* I have a boat load of the EVGA 1300's and they run 7 cards rigs all day long. not exactly accurate... EVGA 1300 can run 7 cards, that's not the point. The point was that new Sapphire RX 570 has 8pin AND 6pin connectors. EVGA 1300 has two double connectors (8[6+2]+6) and four singles (8pin=6+2) Evga does NOT have 8+8 connectors (second 8pin you suppose to connect to PSU) therefore, without extra PCIe splitters you would be able to employ only 4 GPUs like Sapphiere 570 8gb that you mention. This is not a big deal anyway since you could buy splitters at $4 a pop.
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April 18, 2017, 09:21:05 PM |
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I use the new 9.1 version and it is really really nice, the power usage is almost (+/- 1%) the same and the pasc speed is way better. The only weird thing is that ALL of my cards (470/480 4gb/8gb 5 different brands) are no longer stable on mem/core. The 8.1 software gave me a 100% core/mem usage non-stop. Now this new miner gives me more pasc, but the mining is unstable. It drops to 75% once every 10 seconds. (see picture) http://imgur.com/a/xVK4I (first line is 8.1 stable. then second line is 9.1 unstable) What is wrong here? Just the software?
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almirfiorio
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April 18, 2017, 09:44:53 PM |
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Dear Coyn im using claymore 9.1 for ethereum but the sistem are using only 2148 mb in use on each card my vga card is a sapphire rx470 4gb (modded bios) The mh/s are ok, but why only using 2gb have one type to use 4gb and increase the hashrate(mh/s) ? Thanks Almir The 8.1 software gave me a 100% core/mem usage non-stop. Now this new miner gives me more pasc, but the mining is unstable. It drops to 75% once every 10 seconds. (see picture) http://imgur.com/a/xVK4I (first line is 8.1 stable. then second line is 9.1 unstable) What is wrong here? Just the software?
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Xardas2014
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April 18, 2017, 09:47:02 PM |
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not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself.
Why couldn't you? An EVGA 1300 has 9 VGA connections, which is certainly enough to connect 6 GPU's. That Sapphire he mentions uses 6pin + 8pin connectors, so you would need 12 VGA connectors from the PSU in order to run 6 of that GPU. Maybe he is calling the included EVGA cables that have two 8pin connectors "splitters". *shrugs* I have a boat load of the EVGA 1300's and they run 7 cards rigs all day long. not exactly accurate... EVGA 1300 can run 7 cards, that's not the point. The point was that new Sapphire RX 570 has 8pin AND 6pin connectors. EVGA 1300 has two double connectors (8[6+2]+6) and four singles (8pin=6+2) Evga does NOT have 8+8 connectors (second 8pin you suppose to connect to PSU) therefore, without extra PCIe splitters you would be able to employ only 4 GPUs like Sapphiere 570 8gb that you mention. This is not a big deal anyway since you could buy splitters at $4 a pop. That is incorrect, at least for the EVGA 1300's I have. They each had 4 red 8pin to 8pin, and god only knows how many red 8pin to 8pin(6+2)+8pin(6+2). I use the 8 to 8(6+2)+8(6+2), seven of them, for each rig. Hell I've still got a sack full of them lol. I used the 4 8to8 for Zeus miners.
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April 18, 2017, 09:53:19 PM |
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I have the same issue as Coyn on 2x RX480, since upgrading from 9.0 to 9.1: Siacoin mining speed doubles, but Ethereum mining speed is very unstable and often drops. The cards do not appear to be throttling, temperatur is normal and there is sufficient power.
Adjusting dcri does not help, even with low numbers Ethereum mining speed is unstable. Currently I use -asm 0 to fix it, but of course that causes much lower Siacoin mining speed.
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April 18, 2017, 10:22:49 PM |
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not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself.
Why couldn't you? An EVGA 1300 has 9 VGA connections, which is certainly enough to connect 6 GPU's. That Sapphire he mentions uses 6pin + 8pin connectors, so you would need 12 VGA connectors from the PSU in order to run 6 of that GPU. Maybe he is calling the included EVGA cables that have two 8pin connectors "splitters". *shrugs* I have a boat load of the EVGA 1300's and they run 7 cards rigs all day long. not exactly accurate... EVGA 1300 can run 7 cards, that's not the point. The point was that new Sapphire RX 570 has 8pin AND 6pin connectors. EVGA 1300 has two double connectors (8[6+2]+6) and four singles (8pin=6+2) Evga does NOT have 8+8 connectors (second 8pin you suppose to connect to PSU) therefore, without extra PCIe splitters you would be able to employ only 4 GPUs like Sapphiere 570 8gb that you mention. This is not a big deal anyway since you could buy splitters at $4 a pop. That is incorrect, at least for the EVGA 1300's I have. They each had 4 red 8pin to 8pin, and god only knows how many red 8pin to 8pin(6+2)+8pin(6+2). I use the 8 to 8(6+2)+8(6+2), seven of them, for each rig. Hell I've still got a sack full of them lol. I used the 4 8to8 for Zeus miners. there is no such thing as 8pin to 8pin(6+2)+8pin(6+2), instead there are 8pin to 8pin(6+2)+6pin, unless they changed their product: http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=120-g2-1300-xrPerhaps, you got a bunch of random cables. In such case, it is fine. Retail boxed EVGA 1300 have 6 cables, 2 doubles (4 connectors) and 4 singles for a total of 8 PCIe connectors, six of which are 8pin [6+2] and two are 6pin (you can confirm this on the website that i included).
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April 18, 2017, 10:52:22 PM |
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Updated the miner's version and now it seems like I'm getting a heck of more hash speed for siacoin than before. Ethereum hash rate seems same.
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Xardas2014
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April 18, 2017, 11:05:13 PM |
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not all of them are 8+6 (MSI gaming 570 has only a 8pin), but some are, indeed, like Sapphire 570 8gb 100412NT+8GL cannot make a 6 GPU rig with them using EVGA 1300, unless you use splitters/extenders, which is not a big deal by itself.
Why couldn't you? An EVGA 1300 has 9 VGA connections, which is certainly enough to connect 6 GPU's. That Sapphire he mentions uses 6pin + 8pin connectors, so you would need 12 VGA connectors from the PSU in order to run 6 of that GPU. Maybe he is calling the included EVGA cables that have two 8pin connectors "splitters". *shrugs* I have a boat load of the EVGA 1300's and they run 7 cards rigs all day long. not exactly accurate... EVGA 1300 can run 7 cards, that's not the point. The point was that new Sapphire RX 570 has 8pin AND 6pin connectors. EVGA 1300 has two double connectors (8[6+2]+6) and four singles (8pin=6+2) Evga does NOT have 8+8 connectors (second 8pin you suppose to connect to PSU) therefore, without extra PCIe splitters you would be able to employ only 4 GPUs like Sapphiere 570 8gb that you mention. This is not a big deal anyway since you could buy splitters at $4 a pop. That is incorrect, at least for the EVGA 1300's I have. They each had 4 red 8pin to 8pin, and god only knows how many red 8pin to 8pin(6+2)+8pin(6+2). I use the 8 to 8(6+2)+8(6+2), seven of them, for each rig. Hell I've still got a sack full of them lol. I used the 4 8to8 for Zeus miners. there is no such thing as 8pin to 8pin(6+2)+8pin(6+2), instead there are 8pin to 8pin(6+2)+6pin, unless they changed their product: http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=120-g2-1300-xrPerhaps, you got a bunch of random cables. In such case, it is fine. Retail boxed EVGA 1300 have 6 cables, 2 doubles (4 connectors) and 4 singles for a total of 8 PCIe connectors, six of which are 8pin [6+2] and two are 6pin (you can confirm this on the website that i included). Dude I bought mine when Zeus miners first came out. It is likely they have changed what is included now. Mine have four red 8pin to 8pin and I'm holding one in my hand. You can believe it or not as I don't give a rip.
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