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If you have a 1000W PSU how can you see 1100 at the wall? Something is wrong...
The 80+ standard is a measure of efficiency. No PSU will deliver 100% of its nominal output, 10~20% is lost in heat.
Therefore, a 1000W PSU will only deliver ~800W within a limited range of loads, and not at full load. Got it?
A 1000W PSU will never "suck" 1100w from the wall....
Can't agree with ! I have some Enermax Platimax / Maxrevo PSU's. At first they are rated with the output. 1200/1350 means the are capable to deliver 1200/1350 Watt's on the 12V Rails, second for example one 1350Watt Maxrevo is sucking 1510 Watt at Wall measured with Siemens Sentron PAC3200. Running for a year now. But I do not prefer that to other as I can't complain if something goes wrong.
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April 25, 2017, 08:33:37 AM |
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Hi guys ! Correct me if Im wrong. If i see 1100 watt from the wall on my wattmeter , so on 80+ Standard PSU its 1100*0.8=880 power load of PSU. And its good enough for PSUs working conditions (1000Watt Chieftech)? I mean its about 85% of its full load.
Right ?
If you have a 1000W PSU how can you see 1100 at the wall? Something is wrong... The 80+ standard is a measure of efficiency. No PSU will deliver 100% of its nominal output, 10~20% is lost in heat. Therefore, a 1000W PSU will only deliver ~800W within a limited range of loads, and not at full load. Got it? A 1000W PSU will never "suck" 1100w from the wall.... I think it's the reverse : a 1000W PSU will deliver 1000W and consume 1200 w from the wall if it's a 80+
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April 25, 2017, 08:36:25 AM |
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Hi guys ! Correct me if Im wrong. If i see 1100 watt from the wall on my wattmeter , so on 80+ Standard PSU its 1100*0.8=880 power load of PSU. And its good enough for PSUs working conditions (1000Watt Chieftech)? I mean its about 85% of its full load.
Right ?
If you have a 1000W PSU how can you see 1100 at the wall? Something is wrong... The 80+ standard is a measure of efficiency. No PSU will deliver 100% of its nominal output, 10~20% is lost in heat. Therefore, a 1000W PSU will only deliver ~800W within a limited range of loads, and not at full load. Got it? A 1000W PSU will never "suck" 1100w from the wall.... A quality 1000w PSU easily outputs 1000w to DC side, depending on efficiency under 100% load you see much higher numbers at the wall. For example, corsair rm1000 at 100% load - 89% efficiency @ 230Vac - 1123w (1000/0.89) at the wall. And you can easily overload them too, not saying I would do it but it is possible.
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April 25, 2017, 08:42:49 AM |
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Hi guys ! Correct me if Im wrong. If i see 1100 watt from the wall on my wattmeter , so on 80+ Standard PSU its 1100*0.8=880 power load of PSU. And its good enough for PSUs working conditions (1000Watt Chieftech)? I mean its about 85% of its full load.
Right ?
If you have a 1000W PSU how can you see 1100 at the wall? Something is wrong... The 80+ standard is a measure of efficiency. No PSU will deliver 100% of its nominal output, 10~20% is lost in heat. Therefore, a 1000W PSU will only deliver ~800W within a limited range of loads, and not at full load. Got it? A 1000W PSU will never "suck" 1100w from the wall.... A quality 1000w PSU easily outputs 1000w to DC side, depending on efficiency under 100% load you see much higher numbers at the wall. For example, corsair rm1000 at 100% load - 89% efficiency @ 230Vac - 1123w (1000/0.89) at the wall. And you can easily overload them too, not saying I would do it but it is possible. I always thought it was the other way around, but I've been wrong before....
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April 25, 2017, 09:07:03 AM |
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Hi guys ! Correct me if Im wrong. If i see 1100 watt from the wall on my wattmeter , so on 80+ Standard PSU its 1100*0.8=880 power load of PSU. And its good enough for PSUs working conditions (1000Watt Chieftech)? I mean its about 85% of its full load.
Right ?
If you have a 1000W PSU how can you see 1100 at the wall? Something is wrong... The 80+ standard is a measure of efficiency. No PSU will deliver 100% of its nominal output, 10~20% is lost in heat. Therefore, a 1000W PSU will only deliver ~800W within a limited range of loads, and not at full load. Got it? A 1000W PSU will never "suck" 1100w from the wall.... A quality 1000w PSU easily outputs 1000w to DC side, depending on efficiency under 100% load you see much higher numbers at the wall. For example, corsair rm1000 at 100% load - 89% efficiency @ 230Vac - 1123w (1000/0.89) at the wall. And you can easily overload them too, not saying I would do it but it is possible. Like i thought . Thanks all for the info and help. Im cool now. Wattage of the PSU is the output ability not input.
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April 25, 2017, 10:19:33 AM |
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Hey ,guys! I'm new to the forum.I wish you everyone good luck with mining and everything else. I'm kinda new to Etherium mining too and maybe asking newbie questions but i can't find the answers on my own for now.
I do only Etherium mining at ethermine pool
Here is my problem:
Everything was fine on 8.1 Claymore miner.After installing Claymore dual miner 9.2 it started to crash on start right after it shows the green title for my 6 cards.I have a 6 x RX 470 8 GB (Micron memory) Sapphire Nitro on Asrock Pro BTC v2.0 with dual PSU Fortron Hyper 700M (add2psu).OS Windows 10 Pro.Crimson 16.9.2 drivers.Cards are bios moded and making 168.5 MH/s (miner's statistic) .940W power consumption total.I'm using MSI afterburner with synchronized settings for all cards.I found they are working fine on -84 down voltage 1150/2000.Temps-below 60.
For now i tried to play with voltages with no luck and switched back to 8.1.
What do you think might be the problem?Drivers?Overclocking?Or something else?
Thanks in advance!
PS.Windows is crashing with blue screen and start to restart.After restart ,same thing over and over again since i have make my miner to restart auto in shell:startup.
I'm using 16.9.2 as people says 15.2 are not for RX 4xx series...
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April 25, 2017, 10:21:12 AM |
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Hello,
I do need a help. I'm running few rigs under ethOS on RX480 8GB. So my issue is, that on every rig in diffrent time I got problem "WATCHDOG: GPU 0 hangs in OpenCL call, exit" (different cards on different rigs and getting this error in different time in different rigs - from 60 minuts after start till few hours/days). So the problem is, that after getting message "Restarting OK, exit..." theoretically Claymore should restart, but I'm just getting "ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss" message all the time, while rig is on.
Does anybody know what issue it could be? For sure the matter of this message is raiser and overlocking (in some cases I'm gettin this problem with not overlocked cards)
When I do putting some commands to reboot.bash, it doesn't work at all :/ What could be an issue?
My config file is :
-mode 0 -colors 1 -di 012345 -dbg 1 -wd 1 -r 1 -epool eth-eu.dwarfpool.com:8008 -ewal ***/*** -epsw x -dcoin dcr -dcri 17,17,17,17,17,17 -dpool dcr.coinmine.pl:2222 -dwal **.** -dpsw **ccgmining
Thanks in advance
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April 25, 2017, 11:16:52 AM |
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Hey ,guys! I'm new to the forum.I wish you everyone good luck with mining and everything else. I'm kinda new to Etherium mining too and maybe asking newbie questions but i can't find the answers on my own for now.
I do only Etherium mining at ethermine pool
Here is my problem:
Everything was fine on 8.1 Claymore miner.After installing Claymore dual miner 9.2 it started to crash on start right after it shows the green title for my 6 cards.I have a 6 x RX 470 8 GB (Micron memory) Sapphire Nitro on Asrock Pro BTC v2.0 with dual PSU Fortron Hyper 700M (add2psu).OS Windows 10 Pro.Crimson 16.9.2 drivers.Cards are bios moded and making 168.5 MH/s (miner's statistic) .940W power consumption total.I'm using MSI afterburner with synchronized settings for all cards.I found they are working fine on -84 down voltage 1150/2000.Temps-below 60.
For now i tried to play with voltages with no luck and switched back to 8.1.
What do you think might be the problem?Drivers?Overclocking?Or something else?
Thanks in advance!
PS.Windows is crashing with blue screen and start to restart.After restart ,same thing over and over again since i have make my miner to restart auto in shell:startup.
I'm using 16.9.2 as people says 15.2 are not for RX 4xx series...
Try to lower a memory clock in after burner
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April 25, 2017, 11:27:17 AM |
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Funky artifacts including jagged black triangles on screen
sounds like VRAM that's unstable (too low voltage, too high clock, too tight timings, etc) I bet if rip the plate off it says Hynix on those chips. gpu-z is reporting Samsung RAM but it must use a bit of Hynix for something. OMG stay away from MSI and cards with Hynix RAM or you'll end up so butt-hurt your asshole will drag on the ground behind you as you walk. what the problem with the hynix all my gpus are hynix and they doing very well, support the most tight timing and clocks and very stable, i got recently 2 samsung and what a pain to make its stable. I can confirm MSI 470 + hynix memory are somehow fucked. I bought 30 cards like month ago and 7 are dead already. Complete headache. I wish i knew it earlier.
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April 25, 2017, 11:28:24 AM |
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Hello,
I do need a help. I'm running few rigs under ethOS on RX480 8GB. So my issue is, that on every rig in diffrent time I got problem "WATCHDOG: GPU 0 hangs in OpenCL call, exit" (different cards on different rigs and getting this error in different time in different rigs - from 60 minuts after start till few hours/days). So the problem is, that after getting message "Restarting OK, exit..." theoretically Claymore should restart, but I'm just getting "ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss" message all the time, while rig is on.
Does anybody know what issue it could be? For sure the matter of this message is raiser and overlocking (in some cases I'm gettin this problem with not overlocked cards)
When I do putting some commands to reboot.bash, it doesn't work at all :/ What could be an issue?
My config file is :
-mode 0 -colors 1 -di 012345 -dbg 1 -wd 1 -r 1 -epool eth-eu.dwarfpool.com:8008 -ewal ***/*** -epsw x -dcoin dcr -dcri 17,17,17,17,17,17 -dpool dcr.coinmine.pl:2222 -dwal **.** -dpsw **ccgmining
Thanks in advance
вaм лyчшe вce пpoпиcaть в "start.bat" , в peжимe "dual" вpяд ли бyдeт paбoтaть c "config", "-mode 0" и "-dcoin dcr" нe нyжны, oни тaкиe пo yмoлчaнию, "-di 012345" тoжe нe oбязaтeльнo: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eth-eu.dwarfpool.com:8008 -ewal ***/*** -epsw x -dpool dcr.coinmine.pl:2222 -dwal **.** -dpsw ** -dcri 17 ocтaльнoe - в "config"
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April 25, 2017, 11:37:49 AM |
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Funky artifacts including jagged black triangles on screen
sounds like VRAM that's unstable (too low voltage, too high clock, too tight timings, etc) I bet if rip the plate off it says Hynix on those chips. gpu-z is reporting Samsung RAM but it must use a bit of Hynix for something. OMG stay away from MSI and cards with Hynix RAM or you'll end up so butt-hurt your asshole will drag on the ground behind you as you walk. what the problem with the hynix all my gpus are hynix and they doing very well, support the most tight timing and clocks and very stable, i got recently 2 samsung and what a pain to make its stable. I can confirm MSI 470 + hynix memory are somehow fucked. I bought 30 cards like month ago and 7 are dead already. Complete headache. I wish i knew it earlier. The Armor or Gaming X?
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April 25, 2017, 12:16:33 PM |
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why -cvddc 900 on windows not working? it will use 1000 mvolt instead i checked on gpu-z XD (rx 480 nitro+oc 1190/2240)
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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April 25, 2017, 12:21:29 PM |
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Funky artifacts including jagged black triangles on screen
sounds like VRAM that's unstable (too low voltage, too high clock, too tight timings, etc) I bet if rip the plate off it says Hynix on those chips. gpu-z is reporting Samsung RAM but it must use a bit of Hynix for something. OMG stay away from MSI and cards with Hynix RAM or you'll end up so butt-hurt your asshole will drag on the ground behind you as you walk. what the problem with the hynix all my gpus are hynix and they doing very well, support the most tight timing and clocks and very stable, i got recently 2 samsung and what a pain to make its stable. I can confirm MSI 470 + hynix memory are somehow fucked. I bought 30 cards like month ago and 7 are dead already. Complete headache. I wish i knew it earlier. The Armor or Gaming X? i killed a msi gaming x 470 with hynix ram last week.
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April 25, 2017, 12:40:04 PM |
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Hi guys ! Correct me if Im wrong. If i see 1100 watt from the wall on my wattmeter , so on 80+ Standard PSU its 1100*0.8=880 power load of PSU. And its good enough for PSUs working conditions (1000Watt Chieftech)? I mean its about 85% of its full load.
Right ?
If you have a 1000W PSU how can you see 1100 at the wall? Something is wrong... The 80+ standard is a measure of efficiency. No PSU will deliver 100% of its nominal output, 10~20% is lost in heat. Therefore, a 1000W PSU will only deliver ~800W within a limited range of loads, and not at full load. Got it? A 1000W PSU will never "suck" 1100w from the wall.... A quality 1000w PSU easily outputs 1000w to DC side, depending on efficiency under 100% load you see much higher numbers at the wall. For example, corsair rm1000 at 100% load - 89% efficiency @ 230Vac - 1123w (1000/0.89) at the wall. And you can easily overload them too, not saying I would do it but it is possible. Like i thought . Thanks all for the info and help. Im cool now. Wattage of the PSU is the output ability not input. Here's a nice explanation, from Corsair, about PSUs bronze,gold,platinum and the differences. http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2012/august/80-plus-platinum-what-does-it-mean-and-what-is-the-benefit-to-menice tables to show the difference in DC output and AC input.
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April 25, 2017, 12:44:54 PM |
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Funky artifacts including jagged black triangles on screen
sounds like VRAM that's unstable (too low voltage, too high clock, too tight timings, etc) I bet if rip the plate off it says Hynix on those chips. gpu-z is reporting Samsung RAM but it must use a bit of Hynix for something. OMG stay away from MSI and cards with Hynix RAM or you'll end up so butt-hurt your asshole will drag on the ground behind you as you walk. what the problem with the hynix all my gpus are hynix and they doing very well, support the most tight timing and clocks and very stable, i got recently 2 samsung and what a pain to make its stable. I can confirm MSI 470 + hynix memory are somehow fucked. I bought 30 cards like month ago and 7 are dead already. Complete headache. I wish i knew it earlier. The Armor or Gaming X? i killed a msi gaming x 470 with hynix ram last week. Apparently there is no RX470, AMD went from 460 to 480. The 470 is just an overclocked 460 with 4GB that the mfg's decided to call a 470. They (the mfg's) had no reference design, stuffed in ram they found in a recycling bin and pawned them off on unsuspecting consumers. That being said, I'll be getting some rx460's with 4GB samsung ram later this week for half the cost of a 480.
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April 25, 2017, 12:47:01 PM |
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I'm sick to death of my miner crashing. I have six rx 470 8gb sapphire cards and it can run ok for days, then locks up. Then I have to restart it about 10-20 times because I constantly get the message "Ethdcrminer64.exe has stopped working". Then I go into GPUZ and see that one of the cards is not reporting data fully. After 10 restart or so it starts working again, and I get a few more days mining, sometimes less.
What could be causing this? All cards are cool, well ventilated running at 74 degrees contant. this issue is really pissing me off now. All parts are relatively high quality, EVGA power supply etc.
I am running win 10 64 bit
remove and reseat everything. run memtest86 overnight. all vbios stock? No I modded them for extra mining capabilities and it worked well for a while but now it's crashing a lot. I am sick to death of the "Dcrethminer64.exe has stopped working" error. But I know one thing, it has been crashing non stop since I ran claymore 9.2
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April 25, 2017, 12:50:23 PM |
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I'm sick to death of my miner crashing. I have six rx 470 8gb sapphire cards and it can run ok for days, then locks up. Then I have to restart it about 10-20 times because I constantly get the message "Ethdcrminer64.exe has stopped working". Then I go into GPUZ and see that one of the cards is not reporting data fully. After 10 restart or so it starts working again, and I get a few more days mining, sometimes less.
What could be causing this? All cards are cool, well ventilated running at 74 degrees contant. this issue is really pissing me off now. All parts are relatively high quality, EVGA power supply etc.
I am running win 10 64 bit
remove and reseat everything. run memtest86 overnight. all vbios stock? No I modded them for extra mining capabilities and it worked well for a while but now it's crashing a lot. I am sick to death of the "Dcrethminer64.exe has stopped working" error. Check gpu-z for cards with Hynix ram lol.
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April 25, 2017, 12:52:21 PM |
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Hi, Nice to meet you all. 1st time to post since I've been following this thread.
I owned RX470 (Hynix) card and is really suck compared to Samsung RAM, but I flashed the BIOS to fix the voltage and RAM min. frequency and still running so far with dual mining mode, but performance still worse than Samsung counterpart.
I've been using Chrome Remote Desktop and so far so good, no issues.
Live long to Claymore!
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April 25, 2017, 12:56:40 PM |
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Hi all, I don't really check my ethermine hash rate graph but I checked it recently and suprised to find the results fluctuating a lot, not sure if its normal...take a look: http://funkyimg.com/i/2sfNe.pngWhen checking my console i rarely see the rate deviate from the 130's (almost always at 140) but the chart says a different story. Is it correct? Is it like this for all of you ?
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April 25, 2017, 12:57:38 PM |
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I'm sick to death of my miner crashing. I have six rx 470 8gb sapphire cards and it can run ok for days, then locks up. Then I have to restart it about 10-20 times because I constantly get the message "Ethdcrminer64.exe has stopped working". Then I go into GPUZ and see that one of the cards is not reporting data fully. After 10 restart or so it starts working again, and I get a few more days mining, sometimes less.
What could be causing this? All cards are cool, well ventilated running at 74 degrees contant. this issue is really pissing me off now. All parts are relatively high quality, EVGA power supply etc.
I am running win 10 64 bit
remove and reseat everything. run memtest86 overnight. all vbios stock? No I modded them for extra mining capabilities and it worked well for a while but now it's crashing a lot. I am sick to death of the "Dcrethminer64.exe has stopped working" error. Check gpu-z for cards with Hynix ram lol. GPUZ reports the ram as 8gb samsung. But sometimes certain bits of data are missing from the gpuz report on one card or another. Can't remember exactly which bits of data, they are usually blank. When you see that you know without doubt claymore is going to crash. But sometimes it still crashes when GPU is reporting everything is OK on all cards. It's a shame because if this carries on I will have to sell up. I just ROI'd thanks to the ethereum price shooting up but I wanted to run it for a year or so. It is taking up so much time now and I cannot nail down the issue(s). The PSU is a brand new EVGA 1000 g2 series 1000w and I have six RX 470 8gb sapphires being powered by it and a small ssd.
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