Bitcoin Forum
March 19, 2024, 09:50:52 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 26.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Poll
Question: Bitcoin Forecast: What do you expect BTC/USD prices to do in the next 4 weeks?
Up
Down
Same as now
I don't know

Pages: « 1 ... 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 [104] 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 ... 158 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Bitcoin Forecast, Bitcoin Speculation & Bitcoin Technical Analysis. Up or DOWN?  (Read 540158 times)
pent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 500



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
 #2061

I meant by knowing what people are doing. Your profit doesn't necessarily have to align with what he said in the newsletter.
Right. And that is why I asking: Where are the signals?



1710841852
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1710841852

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1710841852
Reply with quote  #2

1710841852
Report to moderator
1710841852
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1710841852

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1710841852
Reply with quote  #2

1710841852
Report to moderator
The grue lurks in the darkest places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1710841852
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1710841852

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1710841852
Reply with quote  #2

1710841852
Report to moderator
1710841852
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1710841852

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1710841852
Reply with quote  #2

1710841852
Report to moderator
1710841852
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1710841852

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1710841852
Reply with quote  #2

1710841852
Report to moderator
N12
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 10:28:54 AM
 #2062

And it is very clear that people once again act upon it.  Let's see how much funds are controlled by these newsletter.
A criticism I have issued before. I think he puts up the price on his subscribers temporarily and makes them worse off. For instance, the buy(s) that made the 5.07 top was caused by one update as I recall.

Same thing happens on the bottom.

I don’t think this is a win/win scenario. People should come to conclusions theirselves, not act within seconds of some email just because they are "forced" to by others who do it as quickly as possible.
pent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 500



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 10:39:01 AM
 #2063

Every big spike is caused by this newsletter. He said SHORT! And people short. He said RALLY! and there is a some rally. Instantly. From minutes to seconds after update.

This is not prediction, but manipulation.

Or maybe just subscribers are stupid to directly follow the command received.

So where are the signals?
N12
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
 #2064

But if you profit off that, does it really bother you?
It’s hard to profit off that. You have to be first and you have to get out first as soon as it seems to fail.
pent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 500



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 10:41:58 AM
 #2065

This is all looks like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIr97bY6GXM
S3052 (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 11, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
 #2066

But if you profit off that, does it really bother you?
He said in previous short term update "short on any spike". Now he declared a rally.

This is why it is important to stay up-to-speed to the market. Things change, depending on recent price action.

Hunterbunter
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 994
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 11, 2012, 11:41:28 AM
 #2067

But if you profit off that, does it really bother you?
It’s hard to profit off that. You have to be first and you have to get out first as soon as it seems to fail.

Yeah I wasn't talking about profiting from that. 
pent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 500



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 01:08:37 PM
 #2068

Yeah I wasn't talking about profiting from that.  
Definately agree.

1. Open position
2. Issue short term update to subscribers
3. ? ? ? ?
4. PROFIT!

This is somewhat of insider trading. This is criminal in particular countries.
Hunterbunter
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 994
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 11, 2012, 01:24:43 PM
 #2069

Yeah I wasn't talking about profiting from that.  
Definately agree.

1. Open position
2. Issue short term update to subscribers
3. ? ? ? ?
4. PROFIT!

This is somewhat of insider trading. This is criminal in particular countries.

If you believe it's that simple, I won't try to persuade you otherwise. Does anyone actually think a chart maker would put down money after they sent out their charts? It's kind of assumed, or people stop subscribing. Use the information as part of your matrix.
N12
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
 #2070

If you believe it's that simple, I won't try to persuade you otherwise. Does anyone actually think a chart maker would put down money after they sent out their charts? It's kind of assumed, or people stop subscribing. Use the information as part of your matrix.
It is (or as it used to be when i subscribed) not only chart making but provides speficic trading advice, though … That’s the thing with the sudden updates. They make subscribers trade without any regard to the actual content just to be first.

I haven’t seen waveaddict do this until now, luckily, even though he too provides specific trading advice – but he simply does so in advance, not buy/sell right NOW.

From now on though I will refrain from talking about this again, as apparently many subscribers silently condone it (?).
disclaimer201
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1526
Merit: 1001


View Profile
March 11, 2012, 02:21:57 PM
Last edit: March 11, 2012, 02:56:55 PM by disclaimer201
 #2071

Like I said before, obviously technical analysis cannot realiably predict the future but everyone takes their own responsibility. It's a disclaimer. You can't blame anyone if you follow recommendations to the point. It's just not prudent.

If former prices are the determining factors alone, I'd say technical analysis can be very helpful. This will not include unforeseeable special events (see the movie "Rogue Trader") as earthquakes or, in our case, hacker attacks. If something like this happens past prices can't tell you anything IMHO. In general, my overall outlook is undecided (just like the current market) because a lot of insecurity is spread from the whole "tainted coins may not be accepted by MtGox anymore" and creating of possible blacklists development. I actually see this as a long-term bummer, perhaps a threat calling in question BTC all in all.

So, I sold my remaining 170 BTC because I can't afford to even possibly lose my investment at this point (hardware wasn't paid off yet). My reasoning: "Better save than sorry." If price rises, too bad but the loss is acceptable. If price plummets, unacceptable - possibly a unrecoverable loss of my overall investment. Edit: If the price really plummets, it'll be a chance to buy back my 170 BTC for less (or perhaps half?) the price I sold it for.
molecular
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019



View Profile
March 11, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
 #2072

which makes a very clear recommendation for once Wink
Yep, go ahead, buy. And leave your ass naked =)

That's not what was suggested and I dont blindly follow his recommendations.

PGP key molecular F9B70769 fingerprint 9CDD C0D3 20F8 279F 6BE0  3F39 FC49 2362 F9B7 0769
notme
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002


View Profile
March 11, 2012, 05:37:57 PM
 #2073

Yeah I wasn't talking about profiting from that.  
Definately agree.

1. Open position
2. Issue short term update to subscribers
3. ? ? ? ?
4. PROFIT!

This is somewhat of insider trading. This is criminal in particular countries.

If you don't like it, don't give him money.

Or, if you have a subscription you can't get out of, profit from it by waiting for the other subscribers to overreact.  Once they do, you will have an opportunity to profit by helping bring the market back to a sane valuation for the situation.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
While no idea is perfect, some ideas are useful.
Hunterbunter
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 994
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 11, 2012, 10:42:13 PM
 #2074

In weeks, months or years to come, when everyone has forgotten about what went on in this 10c price rise, people will look back and say "oh look it was another test of the $7.20 down trend line that failed" or something. It did, however stop the price from immediately eating away at the bottom trend line, which was imminent. For someone who is probably heavily long, knowing what the charts mean if it broke $4.80 at this point, getting the price up was tantamount, using any means necessary. This is always the risk when you trust someone.

The information now made available to you all through this act, is that $5.00 is not going to happen with the volume that the people who act on such information are ready to put out (at least not today). The next question, is then "what is everyone else waiting for?" Perhaps they're leaning south, and needed another test of $5.00 to confirm it...or perhaps they just haven't checked it yet.

I used that information strengthen my existing short, based on my own analysis. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll salvage what I can just like in any other situation, and of course I won't use my full reserves on a hunch.
notme
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002


View Profile
March 12, 2012, 04:20:15 AM
 #2075

In weeks, months or years to come, when everyone has forgotten about what went on in this 10c price rise, people will look back and say "oh look it was another test of the $7.20 down trend line that failed" or something. It did, however stop the price from immediately eating away at the bottom trend line, which was imminent. For someone who is probably heavily long, knowing what the charts mean if it broke $4.80 at this point, getting the price up was tantamount, using any means necessary. This is always the risk when you trust someone.

The information now made available to you all through this act, is that $5.00 is not going to happen with the volume that the people who act on such information are ready to put out (at least not today). The next question, is then "what is everyone else waiting for?" Perhaps they're leaning south, and needed another test of $5.00 to confirm it...or perhaps they just haven't checked it yet.

I used that information strengthen my existing short, based on my own analysis. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll salvage what I can just like in any other situation, and of course I won't use my full reserves on a hunch.

+1

Like I've been saying, we need to take a dip before we take off if we want to solidify up as the new long term trend.  I believe this is in the interest of the majority of the market, but I won't wager anything close to my entire stack on that.  I wouldn't mind riding it up and shorting from higher while we correct.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
While no idea is perfect, some ideas are useful.
adamstgBit
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037


Trusted Bitcoiner


View Profile WWW
March 12, 2012, 04:34:39 AM
 #2076

In weeks, months or years to come, when everyone has forgotten about what went on in this 10c price rise, people will look back and say "oh look it was another test of the $7.20 down trend line that failed" or something. It did, however stop the price from immediately eating away at the bottom trend line, which was imminent. For someone who is probably heavily long, knowing what the charts mean if it broke $4.80 at this point, getting the price up was tantamount, using any means necessary. This is always the risk when you trust someone.

The information now made available to you all through this act, is that $5.00 is not going to happen with the volume that the people who act on such information are ready to put out (at least not today). The next question, is then "what is everyone else waiting for?" Perhaps they're leaning south, and needed another test of $5.00 to confirm it...or perhaps they just haven't checked it yet.

I used that information strengthen my existing short, based on my own analysis. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll salvage what I can just like in any other situation, and of course I won't use my full reserves on a hunch.

+1

Like I've been saying, we need to take a dip before we take off if we want to solidify up as the new long term trend.  I believe this is in the interest of the majority of the market, but I won't wager anything close to my entire stack on that.  I wouldn't mind riding it up and shorting from higher while we correct.


their will be no dips. we are shooting for 8$ remember... 

Hunterbunter
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 994
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 12, 2012, 05:01:47 AM
 #2077

their will be no dips. we are shooting for 8$ remember... 

It's like shooting through an opaque wall.
S3052 (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 12, 2012, 06:28:49 AM
 #2078

In weeks, months or years to come, when everyone has forgotten about what went on in this 10c price rise, people will look back and say "oh look it was another test of the $7.20 down trend line that failed" or something. It did, however stop the price from immediately eating away at the bottom trend line, which was imminent. For someone who is probably heavily long, knowing what the charts mean if it broke $4.80 at this point, getting the price up was tantamount, using any means necessary. This is always the risk when you trust someone.

The information now made available to you all through this act, is that $5.00 is not going to happen with the volume that the people who act on such information are ready to put out (at least not today). The next question, is then "what is everyone else waiting for?" Perhaps they're leaning south, and needed another test of $5.00 to confirm it...or perhaps they just haven't checked it yet.

I used that information strengthen my existing short, based on my own analysis. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll salvage what I can just like in any other situation, and of course I won't use my full reserves on a hunch.

+1

Like I've been saying, we need to take a dip before we take off if we want to solidify up as the new long term trend.  I believe this is in the interest of the majority of the market, but I won't wager anything close to my entire stack on that.  I wouldn't mind riding it up and shorting from higher while we correct.


It is entirely possible to see another dip first. At the same time, it is important to note that we are in a longterm BITBULL market. And if we are really already in major Elliott wave III up, then surprises typically come to the upside. It "only" takes 100 k$ to break 5 $. And there are 1.3 $MM in the order book, so if people decided to go long, there is rally potential.
You can also make the counter argument as there are enough BTC in the order book to drive price down.

We will see soon which is the next big move. It will be coming, as volatility is almost at all time lows - and this will change.

S3052 (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 13, 2012, 04:50:36 PM
 #2079

voila .
The forecast has fully materialzed.

Crypt_Current
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 686
Merit: 500


Shame on everything; regret nothing.


View Profile
March 13, 2012, 04:52:53 PM
 #2080

voila .
The forecast has fully materialzed.


 Grin

10% off at CampBX for LIFE:  https://campbx.com/main.php?r=C9a5izBQ5vq  ----  Authorized BitVoucher MEGA reseller (& BTC donations appreciated):  https://bitvoucher.co/affl/1HkvK8o8WWDpCTSQGnek7DH9gT1LWeV5s3/
LTC:  LRL6vb6XBRrEEifB73DiEiYZ9vbRy99H41  NMC:  NGb2spdTGpWj8THCPyCainaXenwDhAW1ZT
Pages: « 1 ... 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 [104] 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 ... 158 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!