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August 05, 2013, 05:11:59 PM
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Hi, the guy making the auction is me. I had an early pre-order and I paid almost at the end of the 7 day period they offered to early pre-orders to complete payment and keep their place in line. That is why my actual order number is not so low, but my early pre-oder was in the 6XX.

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Actually I think of it differently

What annoys me more than anything is people on eBay/or here selling pre orders for boxes. When the person buying has no chance of actually knowing if the box will ever arrive at his/her door because the original company doesn't allow a change of shipping address,

There is enough scamming in this industry already. I do not want to see our boxes or queue placements being used at all to scam anyone out of money and if i can spend a few minutes to fight that I will.

If this offends anyone then so be it. I would rather that than have you lose your coins to someone who claims to have a queue placement, or a full pre order who in actual fact does not.

After payments are made and the queue does indeed become longer. We know that queue trading is gong to happen and as we cant stop it the best we can do is try to make sure no one gets scammed.


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August 05, 2013, 05:12:35 PM
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your place in line is held for 7 days until you pay, if you pay after 7 days, its based on payment date then.

My question asked something different: If the order number given after order is made stays the same or is it changed after successful payment?
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August 05, 2013, 05:14:30 PM
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your place in line is held for 7 days until you pay, if you pay after 7 days, its based on payment date then.

My question asked something different: If the order number given after order is made stays the same or is it changed after successful payment?

It stays the same.

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August 05, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
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I think we are seeing the beginnings of these wallstreet assholes making a play at controlling the money supply.. Way to go Yifu, fucking POS

That was bound to happen if the price was going to continue to go up.

Yea, I know I just hope that this truly is FUD. I'm going to withhold my comments for now until this is confirmed, and hope I don't have justification to re-post the above statement.
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August 05, 2013, 05:23:29 PM
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your place in line is held for 7 days until you pay, if you pay after 7 days, its based on payment date then.

My question asked something different: If the order number given after order is made stays the same or is it changed after successful payment?

It stays the same.
My preorder nums were changed when paid
a may preorder was 297x, and the paid order was changed to 5x the moment the order was placed


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August 05, 2013, 05:24:37 PM
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your place in line is held for 7 days until you pay, if you pay after 7 days, its based on payment date then.

My question asked something different: If the order number given after order is made stays the same or is it changed after successful payment?

It stays the same.
My preorder nums were changed when paid

I guess I'm talking about orders placed after the pre-order period, aka today.

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August 05, 2013, 05:27:58 PM
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yeah thats correct. the pre-order ones changed. the actual "orders" as of today (even though its still a pre-order, complex eh?) stay the same.
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August 05, 2013, 05:29:37 PM
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your place in line is held for 7 days until you pay, if you pay after 7 days, its based on payment date then.

My question asked something different: If the order number given after order is made stays the same or is it changed after successful payment?

It stays the same.
My preorder nums were changed when paid

I guess I'm talking about orders placed after the pre-order period, aka today.
Yeh, I can see how it can be confusing, the "Pre-orders", and the Pre-pre-orders, hehe


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August 05, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
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the polls are open for the merged mining at KnC
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the polls are open for the merged mining at KnC

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August 05, 2013, 05:49:03 PM
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the polls are open for the merged mining at KnC




Voting

Should we allow merged mining on our mining pool?

- Yes. Merged mining is the way to go.

- What is merged mining?

- No, There is no need.


Lol, the middle. They must assume most customers wouldn't want it.

http://mining.bitcoin.cz/what-is-namecoin

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Merged_mining_specification

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the polls are open for the merged mining at KnC

voted yes

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Yo, FWIW I took the initative and emailed asking them to at least consider creating a poll asking for feedback for merged mining.



Nice!  Find me a single person who thinks we shouldn't get free coins...  =)
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Yo, FWIW I took the initative and emailed asking them to at least consider creating a poll asking for feedback for merged mining.



Nice!  Find me a single person who thinks we shouldn't get free coins...  =)


Well it's now your platform, detail the pros and cons (if any) so people can research and make up their own opinion and importantly vote if you want it...

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arent they kinda useless tho?

its basically like all those alt coins.....useless. lol

ps. i dont know much about them.
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arent they kinda useless tho?

its basically like all those alt coins.....useless. lol

ps. i dont know much about them.

Current rate is around $.62 each.  Far from worthless.   I also feel they will become useful as people build off the infrastructure.  The idea behind the coin is a secured key/value data store.   Some projects have built DNS for .BIT domains and there are a few other projects in the works.   I think its a great concept and all it takes is someone to build upon it.  NMC won't be used like BTC and it is not a competitor.   I would love to see people build a lookup system for bitcoin addresses which could be name friendly or link to an email account.  This would be decentralized and secure and very simple since one is just building on top of NMC.

sending BTC to Me@Home.com would be awesome...
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August 05, 2013, 06:26:11 PM
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arent they kinda useless tho?

its basically like all those alt coins.....useless. lol

ps. i dont know much about them.

Current rate is around $.62 each.  Far from worthless.   I also feel they will become useful as people build off the infrastructure.  The idea behind the coin is a secured key/value data store.   Some projects have built DNS for .BIT domains and there are a few other projects in the works.   I think its a great concept and all it takes is someone to build upon it.  NMC won't be used like BTC and it is not a competitor.   I would love to see people build a lookup system for bitcoin addresses which could be name friendly or link to an email account.  This would be decentralized and secure and very simple since one is just building on top of NMC.

sending BTC to Me@Home.com would be awesome...


There already is - http://www.paythru.to

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August 05, 2013, 06:36:41 PM
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Avalon Shmavalon.

Back onto KNCminer's order numbers... they have "Day 1" and "Day 2" as some kind of shipping batch identification.  
I figured they could ship a few hundred 4RU machines a day, if that...

So this guy is just now auctioning a "Day 1" order with order number #1824: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268149.0

So which of the following applies??

  • Day 1 doesn't actually mean the first day of shipping.
  • There are a lot of unpaid orders up to order number 1824.
  • Somehow KNCminer will be shipping almost 2000 x 4RU units in a single day....  Shocked


There are a lot of unpaid orders generally. When you submit an order you are allocated an order number and even if you don't pay it still stays in their system.
A friend of mine just placed one - Order ID: 52xx

More important is how many of these 5200 orders are paid for and real - this information would be very valuable in establishing the expected (very rough) estimate of the future hash rate, thus easier to calculate possibility of positive ROI.
Because right now I don't really care how much net profit I can make as long as it is positive.

For example even with 1 billion difficulty it still makes sense to mine with KNC Miner and it is very simple to calculate returns - 1 billion difficulty equals 7158.278TH/s, so if you have 400GH/s miner = 400/7158000=0.0000558815 shares of the 3600 daily coins=0.2011734 coins per day=6.13BTC per month.

Fishy at best, I have order #5x, and its a "Day two of production" order. Sam has also stated he does not want sales of pre-orders, and will do what he can to stop it.


Nothing fishy about it, your low order number just means you pay really early within the 7 day period, but you should have had an early preorder that was in line after mine.

You can see in this thread that reports KnCMiner preorders https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0, there are two other orders paid on June 10th (just like mine) which are scheduled for day 1, even when they have actual order numbers higher than myself:

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dwdoc   19xx   10 June   1   0   0   Hosting   1   
kudzu   200x   10 June   1   0   0   China   1

Regarding Sam not liking the sell of preorders, that's fine, I'm not selling my preorder, I'm looking for a partner to purchase the Jupiter upgrade and cover half the cost of the hosting. It is my right to purchase an upgrade and keep my place in line.

Best regards,

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August 05, 2013, 06:41:45 PM
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What else can be merge mined together with BTC & NMC?
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August 05, 2013, 06:45:29 PM
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Avalon Shmavalon.

Back onto KNCminer's order numbers... they have "Day 1" and "Day 2" as some kind of shipping batch identification. 
I figured they could ship a few hundred 4RU machines a day, if that...

So this guy is just now auctioning a "Day 1" order with order number #1824: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268149.0

So which of the following applies??

  • Day 1 doesn't actually mean the first day of shipping.
  • There are a lot of unpaid orders up to order number 1824.
  • Somehow KNCminer will be shipping almost 2000 x 4RU units in a single day....  Shocked


There are a lot of unpaid orders generally. When you submit an order you are allocated an order number and even if you don't pay it still stays in their system.
A friend of mine just placed one - Order ID: 52xx

More important is how many of these 5200 orders are paid for and real - this information would be very valuable in establishing the expected (very rough) estimate of the future hash rate, thus easier to calculate possibility of positive ROI.
Because right now I don't really care how much net profit I can make as long as it is positive.

For example even with 1 billion difficulty it still makes sense to mine with KNC Miner and it is very simple to calculate returns - 1 billion difficulty equals 7158.278TH/s, so if you have 400GH/s miner = 400/7158000=0.0000558815 shares of the 3600 daily coins=0.2011734 coins per day=6.13BTC per month.

Fishy at best, I have order #5x, and its a "Day two of production" order. Sam has also stated he does not want sales of pre-orders, and will do what he can to stop it.


Nothing fishy about it, your low order number just means you pay really early within the 7 day period, but you should have had an early preorder that was in line after mine.

You can see in this thread that reports KnCMiner preorders https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0, there are two other orders paid on June 10th (just like mine) which are scheduled for day 1, even when they have actual order numbers higher than myself:

Quote
dwdoc   19xx   10 June   1   0   0   Hosting   1   
kudzu   200x   10 June   1   0   0   China   1

Regarding Sam not liking the sell of preorders, that's fine, I'm not selling my preorder, I'm looking for a partner to purchase the Jupiter upgrade and cover half the cost of the hosting. It is my right to purchase an upgrade and keep my place in line.

Best regards,
Where can Jupiter owners get rights like that?
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