Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Mota]

I consider last week highly unprofessional, and told them so. You can't state in your ToS that it is a b2b model and then deliver more than a week late. And I think a kind of compensaton is in order. Not only in form of a few bitcoins or cashback, that would be pretty much pointless. I want a voucher for 50% off on the next gen devices/november units for every unit which should have been here by Thursday/Friday last week.

actually,  I will see your unrealistic gripe and raise an insanely mad request and demand that KNC give all of us DAY 1 customers our own ASIC mining company for our troubles

it is the only compensation that seems fair at this point

 

Here, have a bone.
This request is neither unrealistic nor is it in any way unheard of. Even If it's not 50% (but depending on the delay it should be!) but 25%, it is still common practice to do so. It is basically the opposite of Skonto, where you pay less if you pay within a given timeframe.
As long as both sides are okay with it everybody wins. And right now I don't feel happy at all with standardised answers from some fresh hired goons instead of an answer that satisfies me as a maybe non-returning customer.
 

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[Xialla]

So I'm worried about my KNC Jupiter that is arriving today blowing up while I'm not there. Has there been any consensus on how best to limit the risk? Which firmware version is best?

Cheers!

asaik the consensus is at the moment:

a.) dont use fw 0.90 as it may be damaging the boards
b.) dont use fw 0.92 as both fires occured while using 0.92

in terms of lid open or closed the jury is still out

what about .93? or it is just .92 with fixed reboot after upgrade feature?.)

*impatiently waiting for .94*

[ImI]

So I'm worried about my KNC Jupiter that is arriving today blowing up while I'm not there. Has there been any consensus on how best to limit the risk? Which firmware version is best?

Cheers!

asaik the consensus is at the moment:

a.) dont use fw 0.90 as it may be damaging the boards
b.) dont use fw 0.92 as both fires occured while using 0.92

in terms of lid open or closed the jury is still out

what about .93? or it is just .92 with fixed reboot after upgrade feature?.)

i have no idea too

[helmax]

why you want to use cheap PSU with device, which cost thousands of dollars and any failure of PSU cost more, then PSU itself?

ok tell me good psu

[Xialla]

why you want to use cheap PSU with device, which cost thousands of dollars and any failure of PSU cost more, then PSU itself?

ok tell me good psu

i'm using this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817494006 but is quite over-boosted for Jupiter.) pick anything from seasonic/enermax with 1kW, gold(platinum) certification and modular cables design.

[flowdab]

So I'm worried about my KNC Jupiter that is arriving today blowing up while I'm not there. Has there been any consensus on how best to limit the risk? Which firmware version is best?

Cheers!

asaik the consensus is at the moment:

a.) dont use fw 0.90 as it may be damaging the boards
b.) dont use fw 0.92 as both fires occured while using 0.92

in terms of lid open or closed the jury is still out

Thank you.

[ur0pl]

why you want to use cheap PSU with device, which cost thousands of dollars and any failure of PSU cost more, then PSU itself?

ok tell me good psu

Seasonic or Corsair, gold or platinum

For mercury, saturn, or jupiter?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139044

Trust my recommended psu rather than that other guys.

mine gets a 9.6 on techowerup review and his gets a 9.1
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/AX860/11.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/LEPA/G1600-MA/9.html

[Mota]

why you want to use cheap PSU with device, which cost thousands of dollars and any failure of PSU cost more, then PSU itself?

ok tell me good psu

i'm using this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817494006 but is quite over-boosted for Jupiter.) pick anything from seasonic/enermax with 1kW, gold(platinum) certification and modular cables design.

Nice choice, that's the one I recommended

[sickpig]

what about .93? or it is just .92 with fixed reboot after upgrade feature?.)

impossible to say since there's no detailed changelog, nor source code.

[felix64]

However I am going to swap out the stock fans on the case and instead put in higher CFM fans.

Let us know what you use...

[DPoS]

Here, have a bone.
This request is neither unrealistic nor is it in any way unheard of. Even If it's not 50% (but depending on the delay it should be!) but 25%, it is still common practice to do so. It is basically the opposite of Skonto, where you pay less if you pay within a given timeframe.
As long as both sides are okay with it everybody wins. And right now I don't feel happy at all with standardised answers from some fresh hired goons instead of an answer that satisfies me as a maybe non-returning customer.
 

what I am saying is that we all knew that KNC wished well, but could not predict future in such short turnaround time.

yes, they should of hired a few folks more that knew logistics, packing and shipping.   yes, they should of started building the hosting center earlier

but it is sad that a nice company like KNC will turn into rude assholes like BFL and Avalon just by crazy demands like yours over and over.

be realistic to the actual situation, and not your utopian miner company that does not exist anywhere on earth... ok?

[flowdab]

why you want to use cheap PSU with device, which cost thousands of dollars and any failure of PSU cost more, then PSU itself?

ok tell me good psu

i'm using this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817494006 but is quite over-boosted for Jupiter.) pick anything from seasonic/enermax with 1kW, gold(platinum) certification and modular cables design.

Nice choice, that's the one I recommended

Damn, I went with KNCMiner's recommendation of an 850W power supply. Will this be okay? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

[Xialla]

what about .93? or it is just .92 with fixed reboot after upgrade feature?.)

impossible to say since there's no detailed changelog, nor source code.

yeah, it is also little tricky releasing firmware updates without any changelog...

[Xialla]

Damn, I went with KNCMiner's recommendation of an 850W power supply. Will this be okay? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

maybe, but it is really minimum..why you are trying to save 100$ for device, which cost you thousands of dollars? just curious..

[flowdab]

Damn, I went with KNCMiner's recommendation of an 850W power supply. Will this be okay? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

maybe, but it is really minimum..why you are trying to save 100$ for device, which cost you thousands of dollars? just curious..

I wasn't. I just went with their recommendation. I would have spent more money if I thought it was needed. Thoughts on this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034

[Xialla]

Damn, I went with KNCMiner's recommendation of an 850W power supply. Will this be okay? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

maybe, but it is really minimum..why you are trying to save 100$ for device, which cost you thousands of dollars? just curious..

I wasn't. I just went with their recommendation. I would have spent more money if I thought it was needed. Thoughts on this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139057

yeah, imho great pick.

[trepex]

Hi,

I ordered 2 Saturns. One with shipping to Germany, one with hosting at KnC. Both orders were confirmed as DAY1 (whatever interpretation this
should mean, DAY1 of production, DAY1 of shipping).
She shipped Saturn did arrive today (08.10.2013) before 10am with FW 0.91.
It had been pre-configured with my (Bitminter) mining pool informations. That's fair!

Hashing speed had been around 270GH at about 270W (230V installation).

I left the system unattended for like 3 hours and the hashing rate did drop to 90GH. I did not check the power usage at that state.

Upgraded the system to FW 0.93. Since then it's running with 250-290GH (cgminer) and 260-275GH (Bitminter short term stats).
Latest long term stats from Bitminter: 256/263GH
Power usage: 270W (same as before)

The web interface does not allow a configuration for a backup pool.
SSH access, getting into cgminer (3.4.0) allow configuration of a backup pool.
After doing this, the web interface does not work for the pool config anymore. Empty page.

Looks like the pool config did survive a software (firmwae) update. Passwords did not!

Still no update on the hosting Saturn. (Menig might be able to look into the future)

So my "rating" of KnC (+++ to ---)

Hardware design/production: +++
Delivery deadlines: ++
Webinterface (Miner): o (Backup pools are required!)
Hosting: --
Communication about problems (hosting): --- (They should have told the customers more early about problems)
Offered compensation for hosting (BTC, not extended hosting): +

Ralf / trepex

[ur0pl]

I wasn't. I just went with their recommendation. I would have spent more money if I thought it was needed. Thoughts on this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034

anything Corsair is good.

[mgio]

Damn, I went with KNCMiner's recommendation of an 850W power supply. Will this be okay? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

maybe, but it is really minimum..why you are trying to save 100$ for device, which cost you thousands of dollars? just curious..

I wasn't. I just went with their recommendation. I would have spent more money if I thought it was needed. Thoughts on this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034

It's fine. Maybe your PSU will die, but you can just get another. It's not going to break your miner. 850W is more than enough.

I got this one for my Jupiter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P1IWZU/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
but I admit it's probably a little bit of overkill.

[ur0pl]

It's fine. Maybe your PSU will die, but you can just get another. It's not going to break your miner. 850W is more than enough.

I got this one for my Jupiter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P1IWZU/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
but I admit it's probably a little bit of overkill.

Why would his PSU "die" when yours wouldn't? I have a PSU in every company, and that qualifies me as the expert. You cannot just say something will die maybe unless you have proof. Again, I have every PSU ever made.