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I still think that as long as KNC ships out a box that produces around 3Th/s in performance, I will be able to run it for as long as I like and then sell it for enough that I'll make a net profit, so I don't have anything to complain about,
are you serious ??
Yes, someone is very likely to pay => $10.5k on eBay or the like to have a 3Th/s box shipped to them, so I'll at least recover my cost of purchasing the box. I intend to mine with it for a while too, for how long will be determined by how much it is earning and how high the resale price gets. My guess is that the resale price will stay high up until the point where someone ships a machine as powerful or more powerful, so I'll have a decent margin of error for when I part with it. I would prefer to have a large window because when I was running the Jupiter I took a certain child-like delight in having a magic box that converted electrons into play money in the house.
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and I have no idea why people feel compelled to keep banging on about whatever complaint they have based on promises KNC never made.
do you have a memory ?
Some examples I like to remind you of
Examples:
1. "get some coins ready" Dec14-nothing since then
2. "limited" batch 2 of 1200 units, suddenly-"1000 units-second half of batch 2"
3. "We will take care of our customers" (Kurt on knc forum) with no actual info to share.
4. We will only hash at 5% of customers orders-witness the 1300Th monster grow more. 1300Th is WAY more than 5% (produced ~2000BTC in ~2wks)
5. Nothing in "official KnC channels" about Feb 12 swedish video and local.se followup in english. Nothing about it on Twitter as if it does not exist.
6. knccloud.com domain and nothing about it posted
7. refunds only in $$-only to change the tune when it is convenient (not that anybody is complaining).
1. They did not promise to sell more, only indicated that they might.
2. This seems rather open to interpretation since that could easily be KNC selling earlier batch orders that were cancelled and refunded. Arguably that could be good for people who held onto their orders, as it means fewer Neptunes shipping in earlier batches and somewhat less difficulty rise.
3. Last time around I got considerably more hash power than I paid for, which was certainly adequate compensation for KNC being a couple weeks late, and then a steep discount on the next generation of hardware. Since they are not remotely late in shipping said next generation of hardware, so far, I've been taken care of.
4. We don't know that is KNC, or even if it is, if the mining is for their own profit or a client who asked for hosting. That could be a mining operation by a completely different company and for the benefit of the Winklevoss twins for all we know.
5. If they let a video crew in there, they weren't trying to keep it secret. Failing to put up a press release about it on their web page mostly indicates that KNC is doing a bad job of public relations. I think we already knew that, but I don't recall their promise to be good at PR.
6. I don't think KNC ever promised to tell us about every business decision they make.
7. So they broke their promise to give us refunds on preorders by... giving us refunds on preorders in the same amount we paid?
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Do they not have anything else to do? I think the most annoying are the constant statements that "I won't buy anything from KNC again."
At least for me it is valuable info when I read that many first gen customers aren't happy with KnC's latest behavior, even that pissed off that they refuse to do further business with them.
I would agree if not for the fact that it is just the same few people endlessly banging on about it rather than a large number of different people with the same complaint.
Ok, fair enough. It sounds like you've made your decision, so please go clutter up some other thread so I don't have to wade through 3-5 pages of crap each day to see if there is anything of actual value in here. I ponied up ten grand and change, granted it was all monopoly money since it came from my Jupiter mining
Monopoly money because it was earned with your Jupiter ?!
Can't take you any longer serious. I'm getting more and more the impression you are a paid shill or blind fanboy hoping for free hw.
Yes, it was monopoly money because it was earned with my Jupiter. I bought the Jupiter with money I could afford to lose, made a solid profit reselling the hardware, and earned a decent amount of BTC with it before doing so. The excess BTC is definitely monopoly money for me because it is essentially gambling winnings from my decision to figuratively roll the dice on a Jupiter. It might not be monopoly money for someone else, but as BTC is nowhere near being a stable means for storage or exchange of value, they ought to be careful if they are not treating it as such.
but I do want to pay attention. If you didn't, or you decided to get a refund and bail out, it's time to let go and stop telling us about it here ad nauseam so I can have my 5 to 10 minutes a day of scrolling through meaningless posts.
Are you trying to suck in newbies for the more than 1000 refunded miners ?
Why are you posting stuff like "I'm happy and will make a profit". Are you sure BTC will increase 10x and miners will be that rare as they were last autumn ? Are you sure that there's another gold rush hype in the media pushing (miner) prices through the roof ?
Actually as long as KNC didn't fold due to cancelled orders and still delivers a Neptune to me, the fewer Neptunes that people order the better for me, since my plan is to mine for a while and then resell the thing when they are still priced high for resale. The fewer that appear for resale the better the sale price will be for me, as that will set the price floor high.
