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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2591624 times)
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August 13, 2012, 10:44:08 AM
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can anybody explain the concept of this p2p pool in few words? is a from bitcoin seperated blockchain the fundation? thanks!

Of course there are many tutorials and the like, with many words.. I will try in few words:

- several hundred p2pool nodes, decentralized
- everyone solves shares
- shares, which solve the bitcoin blockchain difficulty, are broadcasted to bitcoin, receive the 50 BTC
- shares, which solve the p2pool sharechain difficulty, are broadcasted to p2pool
- the sharechain difficulty is adjusted so that there is a share every 10 sec (diff is between 500..1000)
- the node finding a bitcoin block includes payouts into the block for every other p2pool node, according to their share count (in the last 24h)

There are more details. When you want to switch to p2pool, maybe state your setup. We will hint you some details then (miner software, network connections, node hardware, custom difficulty..)

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August 13, 2012, 10:49:48 AM
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We have new records there:
Pool rate: 546GH/s Share difficulty: 1230
I have not found any share last 24hrs :/ Payout drop to 0.000 Sad
Time for me to switch to LTC. I wish we have p2pminig back...

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August 13, 2012, 11:00:57 AM
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Vote to change in code that will inerase share diff send to miner for big (>1GH) miners. This will not hur them and allow to smaller miners like me get some shares anyway. ATM we have 30 nodes less than 3 days ago. Small miners are running away.
1GH x2, 5GH x3 20GH and up x10 or something...

As I said above, I agree with the concept, but hardcoded hashrates is not a good idea. It does not scale, so I propose that we use default values depending on proportion ot total pool rate, and also keep the current way to set the difficulty manually.
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August 13, 2012, 11:25:16 AM
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We have new records there:
Pool rate: 546GH/s Share difficulty: 1230
I have not found any share last 24hrs :/ Payout drop to 0.000 Sad
Time for me to switch to LTC. I wish we have p2pminig back...

I will release the code for p2pmining at the end of the month (as soon as I go down to Chicago to get my backup) if anyone wants to implement it. If someone wants to donate a server, I could set it up. If you just wanted to do bitcoin and namecoin merged mning, a VPS would work.

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August 13, 2012, 11:44:17 AM
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We have new records there:
Pool rate: 546GH/s Share difficulty: 1230
I have not found any share last 24hrs :/ Payout drop to 0.000 Sad
Time for me to switch to LTC. I wish we have p2pminig back...

I will release the code for p2pmining at the end of the month (as soon as I go down to Chicago to get my backup) if anyone wants to implement it. If someone wants to donate a server, I could set it up. If you just wanted to do bitcoin and namecoin merged mning, a VPS would work.

Jaycoin: Atm i've got a p2pool node running on my VPS (way overspec'd for the job anyways with 2GB ram, 2.5TB bandwidth and 4 cores at 3.2GHz(?)). Any specific OS you'd need to be able to set it up?

On a side note: WHO IN THE HELL MADE SO MANY FRIGGIN BLOCKS HAPPEN OVERNIGHT?!

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August 13, 2012, 06:54:27 PM
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Let's all keep this in mind: http://qkme.me/3qgpu6
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August 13, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
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Very Good luck today  Grin

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August 13, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
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Very Good luck today  Grin

Is this guy fucking serious?
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August 13, 2012, 08:00:23 PM
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Is this guy fucking serious?
I could ask you the same question. Why so superstitious?

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August 13, 2012, 08:22:57 PM
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Is this guy fucking serious?
I could ask you the same question. Why so superstitious?

first rule of luck: don't talk about luck

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August 13, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
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Is this guy fucking serious?
I could ask you the same question. Why so superstitious?

Because of the past trends I have seen. IE: Days of green blocks on top of green blocks, and someone in the thread mentions how well we're doing, and "coincidentally"  the next block takes a day and a half. I suppose you could just chalk it up as variance. But it's also a bit like Santa, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth fairy. If you believe in them, they "exist." Now I don't personally believe in those, but luck and karma are something I believe in. And from what I've seen, the block solving fairies don't like when we talk about their work.  Wink
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Last edit: August 13, 2012, 11:25:19 PM by mdude77
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We have new records there:
Pool rate: 546GH/s Share difficulty: 1230
I have not found any share last 24hrs :/ Payout drop to 0.000 Sad
Time for me to switch to LTC. I wish we have p2pminig back...

Sad  Have you tried manually adjusting your difficulty?

I don't understand what's happening either.  I'm less than 1% of the hash power, and I'm getting an average of .65 per payout, when it should be .5.  I'm running at 105% efficiency, because someone, or a bunch of someone is submitting a lot of stales, so that's part of it.  But I don't think it's all of it.

Feast or famine, and we're back to feast.  I guess it does scale.. including the famines.

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August 13, 2012, 11:35:55 PM
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We have new records there:
Pool rate: 546GH/s Share difficulty: 1230
I have not found any share last 24hrs :/ Payout drop to 0.000 Sad
Time for me to switch to LTC. I wish we have p2pminig back...

Sad  Have you tried manually adjusting your difficulty?

I don't understand what's happening either.  I'm less than 1% of the hash power, and I'm getting an average of .65 per payout, when it should be .5.  I'm running at 105% efficiency, because someone, or a bunch of someone is submitting a lot of stales, so that's part of it.  But I don't think it's all of it.

Feast or famine, and we're back to feast.  I guess it does scale.. including the famines.

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I`m very small miner, may avg power is only 150MH. When it (share diff) was ~500 i found 5-8 shares/day. Now when it is over 1000 i found nothing. Mining LTC now.

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August 13, 2012, 11:58:38 PM
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I`m very small miner, may avg power is only 150MH. When it (share diff) was ~500 i found 5-8 shares/day. Now when it is over 1000 i found nothing. Mining LTC now.

You can decrease the difficulty.  I think it'll drive up your stale rate, but I think it'll get you shares.

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August 14, 2012, 01:30:46 AM
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

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August 14, 2012, 01:39:47 AM
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

Heh.  Either the old fork or a private pool using p2pool source code found a block.  I marked it as a false p2pool block and it's gone from the list now.

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August 14, 2012, 01:39:51 AM
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

I don't see it when I visit the site. I see 193784 though.
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August 14, 2012, 01:41:12 AM
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

I was about to post about this. Blockchain info also shows it solved by p2pool but didn't pay p2pool users. Anyone know what's up with this?
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I was about to post about this. Blockchain info also shows it solved by p2pool but didn't pay p2pool users. Anyone know what's up with this?

Heh.  Either the old fork or a private pool using p2pool source code found a block.  I marked it as a false p2pool block and it's gone from the list now.

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I'm not sure how, but the share difficulty dropped and I'm finding shares again. Woot! Grin

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August 14, 2012, 06:11:08 AM
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

I was about to post about this. Blockchain info also shows it solved by p2pool but didn't pay p2pool users. Anyone know what's up with this?
Interesting thing about that block ( http://blockchain.info/block-height/193781 )
is that it contains an address in the normal P2Pool payouts also:

http://blockchain.info/address/1Kz5QaUPDtKrj5SqW5tFkn7WZh8LmQaQi4

The other addresses that 193781 paid are single use addresses.

... so ... who is 1Kz5QaUPDtKrj5SqW5tFkn7WZh8LmQaQi4 ?

They will know what's going on.

And you should be able to track them down from the share chain also ...

Edit: oh that may just be the donation address for forrestv ?

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