[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[PatMan]

Ah right, sorry. You can leave all your existing addnode info there - no problem. Just make sure you remove the one you added previously for the relay 

[jedimstr]

Thx!

[PatMan]

Thx!

 

[windpath]

Here is where I'm at with the history, not sure I'll include all of it, but if anyone can remember anything signifigant I left out please let me know...

June 17, 2011  - The p2pool project and concept was announced by Forrest Voight and he releases a screenshot of P2Pool running on testnet

July 17, 2011 - P2Pool begins public testing on test net, source released on GitHub, the first test block was found July 18

July 19, 2011 - Forrest announces readiness to test on mainnet

July 26, 2011 - First Press; P2Pool reviewed on Bitcoin Miner “P2Pool Decentralized Pool Nearly Ready For Prime-Time” http://bitcoinminer.com/post/8101660461/p2pool-decentralized-pool

August 16, 2011- First Altcoins added to P2Pool (Namecoin and Ixcoin)

August 18, 2011 - First Namecoin block found

August 23, 2011 - P2Pool first Bitcoin block - 142312  - 50BTC - 0TX Fees - 17 miners - 1.8MM Diff

September 4, 2011 - P2Pool finds its 5th Bitcoin block, first block that includes transactions (p2pool was essentially not including any transactions, just the block reward) 143923 - 50BTC - .044 TX fees - 30 miners - 1.77MM Dif

January 18, 2011- P2Pool reaches 100 GH/s

March 28, 2012 - 100th block found

January 10, 2013 - 1,000th bock found

June 11, 2014 - Coin Cadence launches detailed web based statistics for p2pool including all found blocks and miner payouts since p2pools inception as well as a real time global statistics dashboard

August 28th, 2014 - 2,187 blocks found, over 77,000 BTC mined, 12,417 miners paid

[CartmanSPC]

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Getting a response from forrestv would be a bit of a milestone in itself......he's not even logged in for over a month.......

Agreed, sent him an email... Hope to hear back but not optimistic

He hangs out on IRC. You might want to try him there.

[smoothrunnings]

Is there anything new in the world of P2Pool? I haven't had mine running for the last 5 months.

[RoadStress]

Another orphan?

[windpath]

Another orphan?

Looks like it, and both by Discus Fish...

[IYFTech]

Another orphan?

 

Actually, now that I have some hardware that actually works with p2pool - it's working very well, I must say. Matts relay node seems to be the business too  

oops - that reply was meant for smoothrunnings....sorry 

[Matt Corallo]

Another orphan?

I cant comment on any specific pools, but I'm certaily working on getting the relay network hooked up directly with various pools, hopefully this will decrease orphan rates globally.

[PatMan]

Hi Matt,

I noticed I had a couple of disconnects on my internet yesterday, and that the relay app seemed not to be able to reconnect again, even though netstat showed it as established, the scrolling had stopped completely. It was fine after I restarted it though - is this normal?

Thanks.

[windpath]

Another orphan?

I cant comment on any specific pools, but I'm certaily working on getting the relay network hooked up directly with various pools, hopefully this will decrease orphan rates globally.

Matt,

As P2Pool is basically its own relay network, and already has a large global presence, would it not make sense to integrate the relay network directly with P2Pool as well (or at least a few large nodes)?

[CartmanSPC]

Has anyone looked into using proxypool as a solution for smaller miners?

https://github.com/erkmos/proxypool
https://github.com/dogestreet/proxypool

proxypool  is a pool server that splits work from an upstream pool server and redistributes them to its miners, handling both share submission and sharelogging for it's patrons.

It was used for a while on http://doge.st/ with the dogecoin p2pool. I do not know the reasons why they shutdown.

I would investigate further but my time is limited :/

[windpath]

Has anyone looked into using proxypool as a solution for smaller miners?

https://github.com/erkmos/proxypool
https://github.com/dogestreet/proxypool

proxypool  is a pool server that splits work from an upstream pool server and redistributes them to its miners, handling both share submission and sharelogging for it's patrons.

It was used for a while on http://doge.st/ with the dogecoin p2pool. I do not know the reasons why they shutdown.

I would investigate further but my time is limited :/

I have not tested it, but if I remember right, a hundred or so pages back it was proven incompatible.

[mdude77]

Has anyone looked into using proxypool as a solution for smaller miners?

https://github.com/erkmos/proxypool
https://github.com/dogestreet/proxypool

proxypool  is a pool server that splits work from an upstream pool server and redistributes them to its miners, handling both share submission and sharelogging for it's patrons.

It was used for a while on http://doge.st/ with the dogecoin p2pool. I do not know the reasons why they shutdown.

I would investigate further but my time is limited :/

I have not tested it, but if I remember right, a hundred or so pages back it was proven incompatible.

I made a proxy that works with p2pool.  It needs some polishing before I release it though.  Also it really doesn't "help" with small miners ... you still need to hit the sharesize to get a share.

M

[windpath]

Has anyone looked into using proxypool as a solution for smaller miners?

https://github.com/erkmos/proxypool
https://github.com/dogestreet/proxypool

proxypool  is a pool server that splits work from an upstream pool server and redistributes them to its miners, handling both share submission and sharelogging for it's patrons.

It was used for a while on http://doge.st/ with the dogecoin p2pool. I do not know the reasons why they shutdown.

I would investigate further but my time is limited :/

I have not tested it, but if I remember right, a hundred or so pages back it was proven incompatible.

I made a proxy that works with p2pool.  It needs some polishing before I release it though.  Also it really doesn't "help" with small miners ... you still need to hit the sharesize to get a share.

M

I would think what we would need to make a proxy work is some type of automated escrow. I.E. many small miners mine through a proxy, the proxy tracks the individual miner work and submits the combined work to P2Pool under a single address. A payout threshold would be set (say .005 BTC to start), and the proxy would issue payouts as the individual miner reward crossed the threshold.

Now where can I find a trust-less automated escrow system that can be integrated with a proxy?

[PatMan]

Oh? A proxy that will allow users with incompatible hardware to mine on p2pool?

This sounds interesting......

[CartmanSPC]

I would think what we would need to make a proxy work is some type of automated escrow. I.E. many small miners mine through a proxy, the proxy tracks the individual miner work and submits the combined work to P2Pool under a single address. A payout threshold would be set (say .005 BTC to start), and the proxy would issue payouts as the individual miner reward crossed the threshold.

That is similar to how this "proxypool" works but it keeps a local DB of the payouts. It also changes the payout method to miners using it to:

a Capped PPS with Recent Back Pay payout system, requires no registration, and threshold autopayout.

I am tempted to see if I can get it to work

[mdude77]

Oh? A proxy that will allow users with incompatible hardware to mine on p2pool?

This sounds interesting......

I didn't say that.  From what I've seen so far, with my limited hardware, is the incompatibilities are caused by the 30 second job restart.  A proxy won't fix that.  A proxy can help by forcing through the job id, but that'll only help if the hash is a block.  If it's a legit share, it'll get rejected because the rest of the pool is on the next job id.

M

EDIT: A proxy can also help if the hardware is choking on the protocol "language" from p2pool.  My proxy is stratum only .. if there's any "getwork" hardware out there, it won't work.

[mdude77]

I would think what we would need to make a proxy work is some type of automated escrow. I.E. many small miners mine through a proxy, the proxy tracks the individual miner work and submits the combined work to P2Pool under a single address. A payout threshold would be set (say .005 BTC to start), and the proxy would issue payouts as the individual miner reward crossed the threshold.

Now where can I find a trust-less automated escrow system that can be integrated with a proxy?

Someone tried that with p2poolmining, I believe.  It worked great until he was hacked and his account was emptied.

Basically you need a mini p2pool that points to the main p2pool instead of bitcoin.  How to get all those addresses in that main p2pool share, though, would be a challenge.

M