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January 18, 2014, 03:30:19 PM
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yeah, last couple of weeks have been weird.  many invalid, lots of unconfirmed for prolonged times, miners getting disconnected, now "stingy" blocks.  no updates on slush page or FB site.  site has way too much hashing power to only have 3 blocks in 2 days.  
What I'd like to see as another luck definition is the daily percentage of the network hashing power that the pools have versus the percentage of coins mined by each pool, which might give us an idea of any possible problems.

A rough calculation I have just done:

Network hash rate per http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90ztgSza1gSMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g25zv is about 15,300 TH
Slush pool is about 725 TH

Slush % is about 4.75%

Blocks released per hour is about 7, so per day = 168

4.75% of 168 is about 8 - I don't think that luck comes into the current situation, I think something is awry.
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January 18, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
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bitching and moaning about poor luck or administration hiccups are "on topic" for this thread.

Bitching about poor luck is on topic...LOL...HAHAHAHAHA!

This is what I have to say about that:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/5hfYJsQAhl0

Hey friend, "luck" is at 34% and we are another block that might last half a day. How do you feel about bitching about poor luck now? Still not on topic? How about the way the pool starts crashing right before a stretch of bad "luck". Pool solved 2 blocks yesterday :|

You use a movie clip to discredit this idea, funny stuff, but does anyone at all think there might be more than coincidence within the "luck" we see? I'm not accusing the pool owner of stealing, but I see a pattern where the pool will have technical issues, and then we get slammed with bad "luck" for a few days. Doesn't pass the smell test...
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January 18, 2014, 05:15:51 PM
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simply awful "luck" last couple of days...what have there been 2  or 3 blocks total ?  blocks are lasting between 5-12 hours a pop. 


Just for info in case anyone is interested BTC Guild has been experiencing slow mining troubles also and has paid one block twice yesterday and now taking it back. They are also stating they have NO IDEA why the sudden slow down in the btc domenon. Huh
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January 18, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
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simply awful "luck" last couple of days...what have there been 2  or 3 blocks total ?  blocks are lasting between 5-12 hours a pop. 


Just for info in case anyone is interested BTC Guild has been experiencing slow mining troubles also and has paid one block twice yesterday and now taking it back. They are also stating they have NO IDEA why the sudden slow down in the btc domenon. Huh

Here is a recent posting by them:


A block was paid out twice earlier today due to a severe slowdown in the bitcoin daemon used to scan for new blocks. This block has been removed from the payment history and the shifts since it was already paid once. Rewards will have decreased by 1 block for all users that were active between shifts 14027 and 14036. This should not materially affect overall rewards for any users. If a user's balance has gone negative as a result, it is highly unlikely their balance will remain negative by the time those shifts are closed due to additional block solves.

The exact reason the bitcoin daemon became so slow is not known, but secondary checks have been put into place to prevent a double payment from happening in the future.

January 16, 2014


So I'd say this is a btc wide issue - just my opinion since I'm a n00b. Grin
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January 18, 2014, 05:51:04 PM
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simply awful "luck" last couple of days...what have there been 2  or 3 blocks total ?  blocks are lasting between 5-12 hours a pop. 


Just for info in case anyone is interested BTC Guild has been experiencing slow mining troubles also and has paid one block twice yesterday and now taking it back. They are also stating they have NO IDEA why the sudden slow down in the btc domenon. Huh

Here is a recent posting by them:


A block was paid out twice earlier today due to a severe slowdown in the bitcoin daemon used to scan for new blocks. This block has been removed from the payment history and the shifts since it was already paid once. Rewards will have decreased by 1 block for all users that were active between shifts 14027 and 14036. This should not materially affect overall rewards for any users. If a user's balance has gone negative as a result, it is highly unlikely their balance will remain negative by the time those shifts are closed due to additional block solves.

The exact reason the bitcoin daemon became so slow is not known, but secondary checks have been put into place to prevent a double payment from happening in the future.

January 16, 2014


So I'd say this is a btc wide issue - just my opinion since I'm a n00b. Grin

Also I noticed they mentioned the slow down as severe and talked about it 2 times in such a short post. BUT they DID make sure they corrected their double payment mistake but didn't address the overall slowdown since they don't know why either.

The only difference with them and Slush is they respond faster it seems but since they made a double payment by mistake and needed to take it back they HAD to say something now. Seems all pools are having issues right now go check some of them out yourself. Smiley

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January 18, 2014, 05:57:37 PM
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simply awful "luck" last couple of days...what have there been 2  or 3 blocks total ?  blocks are lasting between 5-12 hours a pop.  


Just for info in case anyone is interested BTC Guild has been experiencing slow mining troubles also and has paid one block twice yesterday and now taking it back. They are also stating they have NO IDEA why the sudden slow down in the btc domenon. Huh


And you call me a n00b! LOL  Funny how a n00b will take the time to check things out while many old timers don't and just complain.

Not the gentleman who made the comment about pool luck I just shortened the quotes some.    Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
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January 18, 2014, 06:27:19 PM
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simply awful "luck" last couple of days...what have there been 2  or 3 blocks total ?  blocks are lasting between 5-12 hours a pop.  


Just for info in case anyone is interested BTC Guild has been experiencing slow mining troubles also and has paid one block twice yesterday and now taking it back. They are also stating they have NO IDEA why the sudden slow down in the btc domenon. Huh


And you call me a n00b! LOL  Funny how a n00b will take the time to check things out while many old timers don't and just complain.

Not the gentleman who made the comment about pool luck I just shortened the quotes some.  

Maybe it's time to abandon ship the Slush is sinking, THE SLUSH IS SINKING! It's every man for his/her self. ROFL  Oh sorry been playing WOW to long.

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January 18, 2014, 06:43:34 PM
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Looks like we found a block, lets hope our luck changes now...
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January 18, 2014, 09:23:10 PM
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4 blocks in 3 days...let the good times roll.  there should be the equivalent of a rain-dance for new blocks to be found =)

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January 18, 2014, 10:12:54 PM
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4 blocks in 3 days...let the good times roll.  there should be the equivalent of a rain-dance for new blocks to be found =)

Lol, been dancing over 3 hours and nothing yet... Man, this old Lady Luck better turn her ass around soon!
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January 18, 2014, 11:32:16 PM
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Another five hour block? WTF? Someone here has offended the gods or something; throw yourself on your sword please, and let's get on with it. Jeez. I had high hopes after day before yesterday, when things went so well. I'll be in the corner crying if anyone needs me.

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January 18, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
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bitching and moaning about poor luck or administration hiccups are "on topic" for this thread.

Bitching about poor luck is on topic...LOL...HAHAHAHAHA!

This is what I have to say about that:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/5hfYJsQAhl0

Hey friend, "luck" is at 34% and we are another block that might last half a day. How do you feel about bitching about poor luck now? Still not on topic? How about the way the pool starts crashing right before a stretch of bad "luck". Pool solved 2 blocks yesterday :|

You use a movie clip to discredit this idea, funny stuff, but does anyone at all think there might be more than coincidence within the "luck" we see? I'm not accusing the pool owner of stealing, but I see a pattern where the pool will have technical issues, and then we get slammed with bad "luck" for a few days. Doesn't pass the smell test...

Personally I think it's fine...bad luck is bad luck...I am not a conspiracy theory guy, so I just don't care...I roll with it and not get my panties in a bunch.

I am into BTC mining for fun, not money.  Sure, I bought ASIC's, but I did it all for the love of the technology not because of greed.

I have never earned a single Bitcoin yet, donate to my cause: 1ENkTtXCepkwwH2on3KdF6iPRFLnPe97Kp - and if you believe that donate more...
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January 18, 2014, 11:40:25 PM
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bitching and moaning about poor luck or administration hiccups are "on topic" for this thread.

Bitching about poor luck is on topic...LOL...HAHAHAHAHA!

This is what I have to say about that:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/5hfYJsQAhl0

Hey friend, "luck" is at 34% and we are another block that might last half a day. How do you feel about bitching about poor luck now? Still not on topic? How about the way the pool starts crashing right before a stretch of bad "luck". Pool solved 2 blocks yesterday :|

You use a movie clip to discredit this idea, funny stuff, but does anyone at all think there might be more than coincidence within the "luck" we see? I'm not accusing the pool owner of stealing, but I see a pattern where the pool will have technical issues, and then we get slammed with bad "luck" for a few days. Doesn't pass the smell test...

Personally I think it's fine...bad luck is bad luck...I am not a conspiracy theory guy, so I just don't care...I roll with it and not get my panties in a bunch.

I am into BTC mining for fun, not money.  Sure, I bought ASIC's, but I did it all for the love of the technology not because of greed.


HA! You sound just like me. LOL

I just enjoy it and don't take things as seriously as so many seem to. Guess they are going to loose their house, car, girlfriends or something if can't make things better and make bigger money. Be happy - soon as BFL Labs releases their 600ghz cards we are all down the tube.

Ah, yes, that's card not box. Just pop it into your computer and have 600 GH/s get 4 have 2400 GH/s, we are lost souls.

Anyway back to serious stuff - Does anyone know if I can run 2 or 3 different pools on same computer? I have 100 GH/s need to put online but do I need a different computer to do that? Mine seem to automatically link into each other as if they are one big system.
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January 19, 2014, 12:15:12 AM
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bitching and moaning about poor luck or administration hiccups are "on topic" for this thread.

Bitching about poor luck is on topic...LOL...HAHAHAHAHA!

This is what I have to say about that:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/5hfYJsQAhl0

Hey friend, "luck" is at 34% and we are another block that might last half a day. How do you feel about bitching about poor luck now? Still not on topic? How about the way the pool starts crashing right before a stretch of bad "luck". Pool solved 2 blocks yesterday :|

You use a movie clip to discredit this idea, funny stuff, but does anyone at all think there might be more than coincidence within the "luck" we see? I'm not accusing the pool owner of stealing, but I see a pattern where the pool will have technical issues, and then we get slammed with bad "luck" for a few days. Doesn't pass the smell test...

Personally I think it's fine...bad luck is bad luck...I am not a conspiracy theory guy, so I just don't care...I roll with it and not get my panties in a bunch.

I am into BTC mining for fun, not money.  Sure, I bought ASIC's, but I did it all for the love of the technology not because of greed.


HA! You sound just like me. LOL

I just enjoy it and don't take things as seriously as so many seem to. Guess they are going to loose their house, car, girlfriends or something if can't make things better and make bigger money. Be happy - soon as BFL Labs releases their 600ghz cards we are all down the tube.

Ah, yes, that's card not box. Just pop it into your computer and have 600ghz get 4 have 2400ghz, we are lost souls.

Anyway back to serious stuff - Does anyone know if I can run 2 or 3 different pools on same computer? I have 100ghz need to put online but do I need a different computer to do that? Mine seem to automatically link into each other as if they are one big system.


GH/s* not ghz.....
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January 19, 2014, 12:19:47 AM
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GH/s* not ghz.....


Thank You stand corrected. GH/s it is.

Oh and after playing WOW for awhile I checked another pool account and it seems at least 3 of the top 5 pools are having slow pool issues. I haven't checked anymore cause don't have accounts with them. Maybe China, Russia, N. Korea or some Drug Lords are hacking into the system for this easy money and causing issues! A thought. Maybe they can't get in but maybe they are doing enough to just cause the whole btc thing to have problems. You have to know they are trying, don't you.

Heck, N. Korea is printing $100.00 bills so good it takes the Department of Treasury and Secret Service to determine if they are fake or not.

Btc has been running what 3 years now. The more public it becomes the bigger target it is. They had a news article earlier today about the BTC "rush" on South Korean TV. Easy picking for the criminal element.Roll Eyes

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January 19, 2014, 12:42:06 AM
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Pool luck was 34% earlier. Then after the 5:37 block it was UP to 37%. Now, 6 hours into the next block, the luck says it's UP to 46%? I'd like to know how that works Huh

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January 19, 2014, 12:44:58 AM
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Pool luck was 34% earlier. Then after the 5:37 block it was 37%. Now, 6 hours into the next block, the luck says 46%? I'd like to know how that works

Luck is calculated on the last found block and the previous found blocks. The current block being worked on can't be included because it hasn't been found yet.
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January 19, 2014, 12:46:52 AM
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Pool luck was 34% earlier. Then after the 5:37 block it was 37%. Now, 6 hours into the next block, the luck says 46%? I'd like to know how that works

Luck is calculated on the last found block and the previous found blocks. The current block being worked on can't be included because it hasn't been found yet.
So how did the luck go from 37% to 46% *during* the present block? Surely it should be zero or a minus number by now? Or as you say, it should still be 37%.

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January 19, 2014, 01:20:42 AM
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HA! You sound just like me. LOL

I just enjoy it and don't take things as seriously as so many seem to. Guess they are going to loose their house, car, girlfriends or something if can't make things better and make bigger money. Be happy - soon as BFL Labs releases their 600ghz cards we are all down the tube.

Ah, yes, that's card not box. Just pop it into your computer and have 600 GH/s get 4 have 2400 GH/s, we are lost souls.

Anyway back to serious stuff - Does anyone know if I can run 2 or 3 different pools on same computer? I have 100 GH/s need to put online but do I need a different computer to do that? Mine seem to automatically link into each other as if they are one big system.

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Cynthia, you do realize the Monarch does not exist...right ?  it's the Neptune we all need to worry about.  right now there is a price war with Avalon & Antminer.  They are the enemy currently.  i paid too much for my mining equipment, I had to switch pools for a bit, I am now earning again.  4 blocks in 3 days, that is just super retarded.

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Cynthia, you do realize the Monarch does not exist...right ?  it's the Neptune we all need to worry about.  right now there is a price war with Avalon & Antminer.  They are the enemy currently.  i paid too much for my mining equipment, I had to switch pools for a bit, I am now earning again.  4 blocks in 3 days, that is just super retarded.


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Well I hope you are right but I personally don't think so after talking to the people at Butterfly Labs on the phone two days ago. They are real close to starting their hosting service also, which is set by default to the Eclipse pool. Their service will be offering 100 GH/s for about 1/2 of what you paid for a 50 GH/s box if I'm understanding what boxes you have. I may be wrong on your boxes though.  Of course you need to understand their year end contract you will need to sign as you will be paying for one of the Monarch cards.

The Monarch card is coming sooner or later and I'm really afraid it is going to be sooner than later and it will be our downfall unless we change also. Hope they don't release it for years.

I am sorry you paid to much for your miners, maybe I did too - not sure, but we all know the HIGH RISK we are taking in this btc thing. This btc is a bubble that WILL BURST one way or another and we are ALL just riding it hoping to make something before it bursts or we are forced out, lets not kid ourselves about that. We are all in an extremely HIGH RISK business mining btc and we better be ready to accept that risk.

We are being forced out by greed and I mean BIG BIG money greed - like multi-million dollar system greed. Sure I may be a n00b in this and maybe can't talk the tech talk stuff but I am aware what is going on.

As for Slush pool speed yes I agree it is extremely slow right now and something IS WRONG - but like I said I have checked my other 2 accounts and they also are having slow issues. Enough so that one made a posting calling it a SEVERE SLOWDOWN but they have no idea why.

If you are on a pool making money could you tell me where. I have 100 GH/s still to put online and would like to know where to go.

And I just checked the pool records and it has been 30 blocks in the last 3 days not 4. But yes, I would like to make more, any ideas where.

I think some of you may be taking my attempt at making some of my posts here light hearted to help keep the spirit up as a sign of stupidity or whatever - I wouldn't make that mistake. I know why I am into btc mining, what the ultimate outcome has to be, and I want to make as much as I can while I can but I also want to have fun doing it.

If you are not accepting btc mining as the HIGH RISK operation it is then I can only feel sorry for you. Maybe you didn't understand or didn't research enough before you got involved. But things in the btc world are NOT the same as they were even 6 months ago. It is an ever changing system and will never be stable by its very nature and the greed of people in general.

So it's back to playing my online game of WOW for me. Grin


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