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January 17, 2014, 12:56:37 PM
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My miner also worked his ass off without disconnect

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January 17, 2014, 01:51:53 PM
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Connection problems where in the middle of that long 7:40h round, so most miners should have recovered from it by the end of the round. My miner also switched to backup pool, but the reward for the round is as expected.

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January 17, 2014, 02:53:37 PM
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its about time people stopped whining. good for you guys! I suggest every n00b read all 711 pages of this thread before being able to post complaints against Slush or his pool. do some research please

Good idea! For those who are complaining, compulsorily.

For the others, who're going to ask a question:
Reading the first post and doing a simple search for the question topic to avoid endless repeating would help too. ;-)
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January 17, 2014, 05:43:20 PM
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HELLO,

What is going on with the SERVER???
Has anyone asked the slush pool owner?


Don't forget the Slush pool is on a different time than those of us in the US so at 0400 Slush pool time I would assume the owner is asleep. But maybe not and we post on here so fast when see something funny happening and over time, usually not very long really, it corrects itself somehow. By the time we flood the thread with posts it usually starts getting fixed. So they don't need to jump to repair for every short series of concerned posts we make.

Since I don't know how to set a backup mining site I'm stuck with what ever happens which is ok with me since everything does seem to get worked out on its own.

This is nothing against the question posted above by the member but thought it a good idea to remind everyone who forgot about the time difference. We n00bs have to stop being n00bs someday but for me seems it's going to be a long time from now. So much happens I've never seen before. LOL.  Roll Eyes
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January 17, 2014, 06:22:19 PM
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Why I like mining on slush

21478   2014-01-16 23:27:08   0:00:20   2784211        1680     0.01479891       280890    25.01347342    88 confirmations left
21477   2014-01-16 23:26:48   2:15:28   1344679965   471240   0.00814433           280889   25.05321188    87 confirmations left

Nearly got a double in reward from that block.

Damn, it got recalculated to a normal payout. Still for 20 seconds not complaining.
I never went down as I saw my expected reward double as pool hash went down to 350 here in the upper midwest USA using 8332.

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January 17, 2014, 06:49:42 PM
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Damn, it got recalculated to a normal payout. Still for 20 seconds not complaining.

For such short rounds the variance is over 50%.
It seems your miner have submitted 8 instead of the expected 6.66 shares (with target 20 shares per minute). For the same round my miner have submitted just 2 and my reward was 3 times lower than expected.
I think it's fair for rounds below 2-3 min to recalculate rewards proportionally, but wouldn't complain if they are not.

EDIT: 'proportionally' (for the round) is not the right term here as it will equal to the score reward - proportional for the last 5 min i.e. taking in account some time from the previous round will be more correct

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January 17, 2014, 08:34:34 PM
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Damn, it got recalculated to a normal payout. Still for 20 seconds not complaining.

For such short rounds the variance is over 50%.
It seems your miner have submitted 8 instead of the expected 6.66 shares (with target 20 shares per minute). For the same round my miner have submitted just 2 and my reward was 3 times lower than expected.
I think it's fair for rounds below 2-3 min to recalculate rewards proportionally, but wouldn't complain if they are not.

EDIT: 'proportionally' (for the round) is not the right term here as it will equal to the score reward - proportional for the last 5 min i.e. taking in account some time from the previous round will be more correct

I'm afraid any proportional recalculation breaks the statistics and should be avoided. There should be one and only algorithm that is fair and it should not be disturbed by any artificial interventions.
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January 17, 2014, 09:38:18 PM
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HELLO,

What is going on with the SERVER???
Has anyone asked the slush pool owner?


Don't forget the Slush pool is on a different time than those of us in the US so at 0400 Slush pool time I would assume the owner is asleep. But maybe not and we post on here so fast when see something funny happening and over time, usually not very long really, it corrects itself somehow. By the time we flood the thread with posts it usually starts getting fixed. So they don't need to jump to repair for every short series of concerned posts we make.

Since I don't know how to set a backup mining site I'm stuck with what ever happens which is ok with me since everything does seem to get worked out on its own.

This is nothing against the question posted above by the member but thought it a good idea to remind everyone who forgot about the time difference. We n00bs have to stop being n00bs someday but for me seems it's going to be a long time from now. So much happens I've never seen before. LOL.  Roll Eyes

Setting up a 'backup pool' is simple. On the common mining software such as cgminer and bfgminer type [P]ool, then [A]dd, and enter the details of the pool.  These settings can be saved ([S ]ettings, [W]rite config file.  Saving the configuration remembers these settings so that they don't have to be manually reentered every time.  Different pool switching strategies can be selected as well.  The mining software monitors which of the pools on the list is 'alive'.

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January 17, 2014, 09:40:36 PM
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Excellent Info! Thanks for that  Cool

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January 17, 2014, 11:02:22 PM
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Setting up a 'backup pool' is simple. On the common mining software such as cgminer and bfgminer type [P]ool, then [A]dd, and enter the details of the pool.  These settings can be saved ([S ]ettings, [W]rite config file.  Saving the configuration remembers these settings so that they don't have to be manually reentered every time.  Different pool switching strategies can be selected as well.  The mining software monitors which of the pools on the list '.

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Thank you very much for the info. That's why I like this thread so many helpfull people!  Grin
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January 17, 2014, 11:27:36 PM
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Slush's pool anomaly. Payment for 20 second round changed.

This is regarding round 21478.

Before screenshot of share
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After screenshot of share
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hnt0jeauy128sha/Screenshot%202014-01-17%2023.20.45.png

I noticed the difference becauase this share should have taken me over my payout threshold. I had been watching it until 6 confirmations left.

What gives?These aren't estimated figures.
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January 18, 2014, 04:56:11 AM
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Slush's pool anomaly. Payment for 20 second round changed.

This is regarding round 21478.

Before screenshot of share
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/15r266vfei14297/Screenshot%202014-01-16%2023.54.34.png

After screenshot of share
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hnt0jeauy128sha/Screenshot%202014-01-17%2023.20.45.png

I noticed the difference becauase this share should have taken me over my payout threshold. I had been watching it until 6 confirmations left.

What gives?These aren't estimated figures.

I had it revised down too.  It was 'too good to be true' probably, and now it reflects my hash rate and is similar to adjacent blocks.  While with extremely short blocks you might get luck if you have very fast miners and super fast internet connection and 'beat the big boys', it rarely happens.  In the past usually Slush 'under pays' initially and later revises it up (following screams and cries from us poor hashers)....

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January 18, 2014, 07:41:44 AM
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Setting up a 'backup pool' is simple. On the common mining software such as cgminer and bfgminer type [P]ool, then [A]dd, and enter the details of the pool.  These settings can be saved ([S ]ettings, [W]rite config file.  Saving the configuration remembers these settings so that they don't have to be manually reentered every time.  Different pool switching strategies can be selected as well.  The mining software monitors which of the pools on the list '.

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Thank you very much for the info. That's why I like this thread so many helpfull people!  Grin
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you can find the instructions in the readme of the miner you are using. also a good thing to know how to properly use the program.

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January 18, 2014, 12:02:17 PM
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I'm done with Slush...still have an unanswered ticket for more then 2 weeks now. Not responding AT ALL but in the mean while i can give him 2% for all my work. The service is a joke for it.


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January 18, 2014, 02:45:58 PM
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simply awful "luck" last couple of days...what have there been 2  or 3 blocks total ?  blocks are lasting between 5-12 hours a pop. 

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January 18, 2014, 02:47:49 PM
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“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.”
Well, GHash.IO has done it to us again with block 280616.  The timings are really weird:  the timestamp for 280616 - 12:20:06 - is more than two minutes later than the received time - 12:17:31 (which is the same as the time claimed by Slush) - and is even nearly two minutes later than the next block, 280617, which was also bagged by GHash.IO.  Something doesn't look right.

Does anybody know if they have done this to other pools?
Yes, repeatedly. It's a common complain about gigahash.io

Though to be fair, we did solve two blocks in a row yesterday (280561 and 280562) and orphaned someone else's block (280562) when the network picked ours.

I saw the recent statement by hash.io that they will do no evil. But I also read last month about the double spend attack they pulled in September of last year. I don't think they can be trusted and tend to lean toward guilty until proven innocent with this pool. Maybe its time to ask the group Anonymous to assist here. If they were to target the independent miners using that pool we would see them leaving in droves, cutting their hashing power in half.
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January 18, 2014, 02:50:12 PM
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simply awful "luck" last couple of days...what have there been 2  or 3 blocks total ?  blocks are lasting between 5-12 hours a pop.  
Makes me wonder with all the front end glitches recently, whether there is something wrong now at the back end - we've never really recovered from the server problems the other day.............................
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January 18, 2014, 03:08:00 PM
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yeah, last couple of weeks have been weird.  many invalid, lots of unconfirmed for prolonged times, miners getting disconnected, now "stingy" blocks.  no updates on slush page or FB site.  site has way too much hashing power to only have 3 blocks in 2 days. 

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January 18, 2014, 03:30:19 PM
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yeah, last couple of weeks have been weird.  many invalid, lots of unconfirmed for prolonged times, miners getting disconnected, now "stingy" blocks.  no updates on slush page or FB site.  site has way too much hashing power to only have 3 blocks in 2 days.  
What I'd like to see as another luck definition is the daily percentage of the network hashing power that the pools have versus the percentage of coins mined by each pool, which might give us an idea of any possible problems.

A rough calculation I have just done:

Network hash rate per http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90ztgSza1gSMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g25zv is about 15,300 TH
Slush pool is about 725 TH

Slush % is about 4.75%

Blocks released per hour is about 7, so per day = 168

4.75% of 168 is about 8 - I don't think that luck comes into the current situation, I think something is awry.
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January 18, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
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bitching and moaning about poor luck or administration hiccups are "on topic" for this thread.

Bitching about poor luck is on topic...LOL...HAHAHAHAHA!

This is what I have to say about that:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/5hfYJsQAhl0

Hey friend, "luck" is at 34% and we are another block that might last half a day. How do you feel about bitching about poor luck now? Still not on topic? How about the way the pool starts crashing right before a stretch of bad "luck". Pool solved 2 blocks yesterday :|

You use a movie clip to discredit this idea, funny stuff, but does anyone at all think there might be more than coincidence within the "luck" we see? I'm not accusing the pool owner of stealing, but I see a pattern where the pool will have technical issues, and then we get slammed with bad "luck" for a few days. Doesn't pass the smell test...

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