[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool

[eleuthria]

Well it would seem that a restart on BFGminer has fixed the problem, but I've never had to do that before...

Hmmm... My big issue with revenue decline comes from the fact we aren't solving any blocks. I haven't done any digging, but some posts have said other pools are slow too...

If the entire network is actually slow that means perhaps the last difficulty adjustment was too aggressive. From what I understand, difficulty (technically) can move up or down, whatever it takes, with the end goal being that the next 2016 blocks take 2 weeks to mine. Not saying the last difficulty increase was flawed or too aggressive, but if this is a network-wide issue we should expect to see it reflected somehow in the next difficulty calculation.

Makes sense but they don't seem to know why this is happening and here is an exact copy off the BTC Guild site:

A block was paid out twice earlier today due to a severe slowdown in the bitcoin daemon used to scan for new blocks. This block has been removed from the payment history and the shifts since it was already paid once. Rewards will have decreased by 1 block for all users that were active between shifts 14027 and 14036. This should not materially affect overall rewards for any users. If a user's balance has gone negative as a result, it is highly unlikely their balance will remain negative by the time those shifts are closed due to additional block solves.

The exact reason the bitcoin daemon became so slow is not known, but secondary checks have been put into place to prevent a double payment from happening in the future.

January 16, 2014

That news post isn't related to other pools, it was a BTC Guild specific issue.  The problem was figured out (wallet file was too fragmented causing it to respond extremely slowly whenever new blocks are found on the network).  I thought that type of slowdown had been mostly corrected in bitcoin 0.8, but was wrong.

[Matumaru]

Also Bitminter and Eligius are reporting long rounds in the last 48h

What is this??? The end of the world???

By now I'll move 60% of my hashing power to a multipool for alt coins, and wait until the storm passes.

[mahvys]

4 blocks in 3 days...let the good times roll.  there should be the equivalent of a rain-dance for new blocks to be found =)

Yeah hope So 

[boylin]

mining on a PPS pool for the time being until i hear this is resolved.

[Trongersoll]

Well it would seem that a restart on BFGminer has fixed the problem, but I've never had to do that before...

Hmmm... My big issue with revenue decline comes from the fact we aren't solving any blocks. I haven't done any digging, but some posts have said other pools are slow too...

If the entire network is actually slow that means perhaps the last difficulty adjustment was too aggressive. From what I understand, difficulty (technically) can move up or down, whatever it takes, with the end goal being that the next 2016 blocks take 2 weeks to mine. Not saying the last difficulty increase was flawed or too aggressive, but if this is a network-wide issue we should expect to see it reflected somehow in the next difficulty calculation.

I'm not sure what you consider a slowdown, according to http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty blocks are being found every 8.4 minutes. that is faster than the every 10 minutes that it is supposed to be. I've been on Slush since May '13. Slush used to be roughly 10% of the world's hashrate. Now, it is less than 5% so it should take longer to find blocks. as your hashrate goes down the Variance goes up. this means that we will see more very long blocks and very short blocks..

[BuhTuglia]

Well it would seem that a restart on BFGminer has fixed the problem, but I've never had to do that before...

> Slush used to be roughly 10% of the world's hashrate. Now, it is less than 5% so
> it should take longer to find blocks. as you hashrate goes down the Variance
> goes up. this means that we will see more very long blocks and very short blocks..

Lord, 731 terahashes, and we're only 5%??? Who is getting all the blocks, then? 'Cos we sure ain't. Surely someone out there is compiling a list of pools, with the best (ie. most profitable) pools at the top. I'm partial to CZ, but at some point, and as I aquire more miners, I'll probably switch over and try out a few other pools. Anyone know of such a list?

[Trongersoll]

Well it would seem that a restart on BFGminer has fixed the problem, but I've never had to do that before...

> Slush used to be roughly 10% of the world's hashrate. Now, it is less than 5% so
> it should take longer to find blocks. as you hashrate goes down the Variance
> goes up. this means that we will see more very long blocks and very short blocks..

Lord, 731 terahashes, and we're only 5%??? Who is getting all the blocks, then? 'Cos we sure ain't. Surely someone out there is compiling a list of pools, with the best (ie. most profitable) pools at the top. I'm partial to CZ, but at some point, and as I aquire more miners, I'll probably switch over and try out a few other pools. Anyone know of such a list?

you can see where the mining is done here: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/index.php

[BuhTuglia]

you can see where the mining is done here: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/index.php

Hey, thanks, that's very handy...

[ccynthia]

4 blocks in 3 days...let the good times roll.  there should be the equivalent of a rain-dance for new blocks to be found =)

Yeah hope So 

Of the last 200 blocks listed from block 28151 thru 28351 here's the break down:

GHash.IO    72
BTC Guild    48
Discus Fish  29
Eligus         16
Slush           6
Bitminer        3
p2pool          3
Eclipse         2
Other/Unk    21

[Mentalfloss]

you can see where the mining is done here: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/index.php

Hey, thanks, that's very handy...

Also see this pretty nice looking chart...

https://blockchain.info/pools

[Trongersoll]

you can see where the mining is done here: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/index.php

Hey, thanks, that's very handy...

Also see this pretty nice looking chart...

https://blockchain.info/pools

Blockchain.info isn't as accurate as the one i posted.

[Mentalfloss]

you can see where the mining is done here: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/index.php

Hey, thanks, that's very handy...

Also see this pretty nice looking chart...

https://blockchain.info/pools

Blockchain.info isn't as accurate as the one i posted.

That's probably why right at the top of the page they state "An estimation of hashrate distribution...for various reasons will not be 100% accurate"

[bspurloc]

somethign wrong with 21494, that should be .0037ish
taking my shares for 4 hours 2x it, 2x361034 = 722068
+ 31minute shares 50011+722068 = 772079. So my shares are Dead on for 21494. .0030x is wrong.

21494   2014-01-20 02:26:33   8:34:03   5527931702   771770   0.00304283   281411   25.08091000    97 confirmations left

21493   2014-01-19 17:52:30   4:01:39   2473015277   361034   0.00372097   281355   25.14927431    41 confirmations left

21490   2014-01-19 06:56:21   0:31:45   320520478   50011   0.00393909   281275   25.01053350    confirmed

[errkal]

Is there any difference in earning on different pools, I ask because I ran on ghash.io for about 4 hours and based on reward from that i would be about 1/3 down on what I get here.

Maybe I didn't leave it long enough I don't know but is there a way to tell if a pool will be a better earner ?

[Trongersoll]

Is there any difference in earning on different pools, I ask because I ran on ghash.io for about 4 hours and based on reward from that i would be about 1/3 down on what I get here.

Maybe I didn't leave it long enough I don't know but is there a way to tell if a pool will be a better earner ?

Ghash doesn't have fees so you should do 2 percent better. But 4 hours is insignificant. Try running for a week on each and comparing. Slush is a small pool so there will be more variance in luck and pay out.  think i read somewhere that Ghash charges for withdrawls? if so, there is the fee. All pools should earn about the same for a given hash rate over time.

[kabopar]

somethign wrong with 21494, that should be .0037ish
taking my shares for 4 hours 2x it, 2x361034 = 722068
+ 31minute shares 50011+722068 = 772079. So my shares are Dead on for 21494. .0030x is wrong.

21494   2014-01-20 02:26:33   8:34:03   5527931702   771770   0.00304283   281411   25.08091000    97 confirmations left

21493   2014-01-19 17:52:30   4:01:39   2473015277   361034   0.00372097   281355   25.14927431    41 confirmations left

21490   2014-01-19 06:56:21   0:31:45   320520478   50011   0.00393909   281275   25.01053350    confirmed

Assuming that your miner was submitting at a steady rate, and the pool hashing rate was constant, your reward for 21494 should have been about 0.003420513
  (25*771770/5527931702*98%), the reward of 0.00304283 is about 9% lower.  I examined my reward for this block and it was also about 9% lower.  It was quite a long block, and short term fluctuations in the pool and individual miners could be the cause.  You could raise a ticket on this if it is of concern.
BTW, I checked about 1400 history blocks, and found that my average reward was about 3% higher than the proportional value based on shares relatively to the total shares (with some fairly large fluctuations too).  You need to consider Slush's unique exponential algorithm and variations at both your side and the overall pool hash rate.  I am not inclined to raise the reward of this block as an issue.

Cheers

[slappo]

To all the haters and flamers out there about how; slush less than this and xx is better then xx.... stfu!


This pool has the best support out of any pools I have been with, and i've been with more pools than a hooker can make a career out of!


I submitted a ticket to the support staff back when the most recent blocks were not showing proper rewards, and this was at like 3:00am PST
I got a response back within 10 minutes assuring me not to be concerned, then poof what was said was done and I was credited!

In my honest opinion, if one does not simply mine with Slush, one does not have access to the resources and collaboration as said other pools!


My recent problems were a lot of stale shares but it looked like the amount of stales that happened when we were all on getwork, which is fixed now and we are all back being happy!


Props go out the slush support team, and everyone else that makes this pool possible!




Keep Calm and Mine on Everyone!

[J_Dubbs]

To all the haters and flamers out there about how; slush less than this and xx is better then xx.... stfu!


This pool has the best support out of any pools I have been with, and i've been with more pools than a hooker can make a career out of!


I submitted a ticket to the support staff back when the most recent blocks were not showing proper rewards, and this was at like 3:00am PST
I got a response back within 10 minutes assuring me not to be concerned, then poof what was said was done and I was credited!

In my honest opinion, if one does not simply mine with Slush, one does not have access to the resources and collaboration as said other pools!


My recent problems were a lot of stale shares but it looked like the amount of stales that happened when we were all on getwork, which is fixed now and we are all back being happy!


Props go out the slush support team, and everyone else that makes this pool possible!




Keep Calm and Mine on Everyone!

At the heart of a free-market is the right for people to voice opinions and freely mine wherever they want. I raise your "STFU" and "keep calm and mine on" Communist bullshit with a "Go screw dummy"- get a clue about what you are encouraging, stop and think about it, really think. The SIMPLE fact is that because of the voiced opinions us miners have a way to hold pool operators accountable and we have a method to inform each other by sharing knowledge and opinions here. I think it's silly and sad that people like you want others to bury their head in the sand rather than freely share opinions. Glad our luck turned around for now, but this is the place I hope to come for unfiltered user feedback, not blind faith and ass kissing propaganda. Long live Slush, until/unless there is a "better" pool because we are all free to vote with our hardware, and hopefully we encourage criticism here to share all the necessary information if/when things point towards our pool having a disadvantage. We all pay a fee, and nobody gives me "props" for simply doing my job, gotta go above and beyond for that and from what I know there's no real level of personalized service, just widespread technical issues, silence, and sudden fixes that (usually) happen after a few days.

Your suggestion to shut people up is a concept that kills the transparency needed for a competitive market, anyone that has studied econ 101 knows that competition drives innovation and the end result is the best solution for the market. A bunch of forums with a "STFU and keep mining" policy would be a world full of shitty pools with no accountability for their actions. It's a forum, free speech is essential. I'll say it would be nice for newbie questions to remain in the newbie forum, but if someone has a problem with this pool bet your ass I want to know about it, and if there's another pool without said problem I want to know about that too. If not for that, why else would we be here? Bad luck therapy and good luck "atta boys"? Even if we are delighted with the service it is through an open platform that encouraged criticism that we can ensure the quality is maintained, or improved when needed. Even knowing that you tried other pools without excessive commitment is valuable information, it's just the whole "stfu" thing where you are crossing a line that nobody here should ever strive for.

[ccynthia]

To all the haters and flamers out there about how; slush less than this and xx is better then xx.... stfu!


This pool has the best support out of any pools I have been with, and i've been with more pools than a hooker can make a career out of!


I submitted a ticket to the support staff back when the most recent blocks were not showing proper rewards, and this was at like 3:00am PST
I got a response back within 10 minutes assuring me not to be concerned, then poof what was said was done and I was credited!

In my honest opinion, if one does not simply mine with Slush, one does not have access to the resources and collaboration as said other pools!


My recent problems were a lot of stale shares but it looked like the amount of stales that happened when we were all on getwork, which is fixed now and we are all back being happy!


Props go out the slush support team, and everyone else that makes this pool possible!




Keep Calm and Mine on Everyone!

At the heart of a free-market is the right for people to voice opinions and freely mine wherever they want. I raise your "STFU" and "keep calm and mine on" Communist bullshit with a "Go screw dummy"- get a clue about what you are encouraging, stop and think about it, really think. The SIMPLE fact is that because of the voiced opinions us miners have a way to hold pool operators accountable and we have a method to inform each other by sharing knowledge and opinions here. I think it's silly and sad that people like you want others to bury their head in the sand rather than freely share opinions. Glad our luck turned around for now, but this is the place I hope to come for unfiltered user feedback, not blind faith and ass kissing propaganda. Long live Slush, until/unless there is a "better" pool because we are all free to vote with our hardware, and hopefully we encourage criticism here to share all the necessary information if/when things point towards our pool having a disadvantage. We all pay a fee, and nobody gives me "props" for simply doing my job, gotta go above and beyond for that and from what I know there's no real level of personalized service, just widespread technical issues, silence, and sudden fixes that (usually) happen after a few days.

Your suggestion to shut people up is a concept that kills the transparency needed for a competitive market, anyone that has studied econ 101 knows that competition drives innovation and the end result is the best solution for the market. A bunch of forums with a "STFU and keep mining" policy would be a world full of shitty pools with no accountability for their actions. It's a forum, free speech is essential. I'll say it would be nice for newbie questions to remain in the newbie forum, but if someone has a problem with this pool bet your ass I want to know about it, and if there's another pool without said problem I want to know about that too. If not for that, why else would we be here? Bad luck therapy and good luck "atta boys"? Even if we are delighted with the service it is through an open platform that encouraged criticism that we can ensure the quality is maintained, or improved when needed. Even knowing that you tried other pools without excessive commitment is valuable information, it's just the whole "stfu" thing where you are crossing a line that nobody here should ever strive for.

I can't let this one slide by - you know me.

Who the heck are you to mention the right to voice free opinions and the need to freely share opinions over and over in a post directed at someone who is doing that exact thing! At the same time you FLAME his post with your fancy (in your opinion) Economic talk. Talking about communist BS, you have found your own elegant way of trying to SHUT PEOPLE UP who are doing the exact thing you say is so essential for a pool. Openly expressing their opinion.

You seem to like to use your Economic hammer on people to intimidate them into not posting what they feel and bend them more into your way of thinking. Now there's true Communism in the works.

And your attempt at intimidating n00bs and wanting/wishing they would be forced into one small area IS TRUE COMMUNIST THINKING! You believe in the class system don't you. Your perceived class and then there will be the rest of us in the other class, I see!

Who are you mister high all mighty to make such comments and still want people to openly post. You want them to only post what you think is relevant - is that it! Again sounds like Communism to me.

YOU crossed the line with your communist BS remarks. This IS AMERICA dam-it (at least I am in America) and he can post whatever he wants and shouldn't feel the need to run and hide from your flaming after he does. If you think this will stop n00bs from posting you're wrong, I still posted.

And yes I also have a college degree (thought I'd mention that since you seem to indirectly refer to your high level of education as if it means something). I also took Economics in school but I'm not trying to use it to shut others up because they don't believe like I do or trying to force others off the forum into a small back room because I don't like what they are saying.

It may not have been elegant but I understood what he meant sorry you couldn't.

So do you Really Want To Dance with me now? Is that your way? Bring it on! I have my opinion and my way of expressing it and no one, I MEAN NO ONE, will ever change that except maybe Slush forcing me off this forum himself.

Don't talk Communist BS to me, ever, MR J_Dubbs!

Now lets see how elegant you are or maybe not even elegant this time, when you flame me for expressing my FREE OPEN OPINION on this site.

And YES go on mining my Slush friends.
 

[sebmex]

Hi everyone,

total beginner here, I read the guide, registered on this pool to get up and runinng, but I have a problem.

I use GUIMiner on my Windows PC, with these parameters :

host : stratum.bitcoin.cz
port : 3333

login and password for the worker (got it from the pool website, no it's not my website login)

start de bitcoin original client in server mode, and then clic on mining, here is the console :

2014-01-20 18:12:56: Running command: poclbm.exe login:password@stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 --device=0 --platform=0 --verbose -r1
2014-01-20 18:12:56: Listener for "Slush" started
2014-01-20 18:12:59: Listener for "Slush": WARNING: ADL missing (no AMD platform?), temperature control is disabled
2014-01-20 18:12:59: Listener for "Slush": 20/01/2014 18:12:59, started OpenCL miner on platform 0, device 0 (Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU         540  @ 3.07GHz)
2014-01-20 18:13:00: Listener for "Slush": stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 20/01/2014 18:13:00, checking for stratum...
2014-01-20 18:13:00: Listener for "Slush": stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 20/01/2014 18:13:00, no response to getwork, using as stratum
2014-01-20 18:13:00: Listener for "Slush": stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 20/01/2014 18:13:00, Setting new difficulty: 3
2014-01-20 18:13:48: Listener for "Slush": stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 20/01/2014 18:13:48, Setting new difficulty: 1

and then nothing, when I check the summary tab I have a "Connection problem" status...

please help anyone !

Sebmex