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May 19, 2013, 05:37:28 PM
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Try this tool: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/catalyst-uninstall-utility.aspx
I used it when downgrading from 13.1 to 12.8 to use vanitygen. It actually removes everything and gives you a clean slate. Just run it, reboot, and install again.

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May 19, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
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Nope. I didn't have any restore point that was old enough. I'll try to search a bit on the web, otherwise I'll just have to reinstall it. And take a Ghost copy in case something happens again.

Edit: Thanks autonomous42, I'll try that first.

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May 19, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
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The uninstall utility didn't do the trick.

With some configurations that doesn't work, I get an error message when starting Windows, that kdbsync.exe has stopped working. Could this be a clue? I searched it, and it seems to have something to do with the APP SDK. The only "solutions" I find is to remove or inhibit start of APP SDK. It's not like that's an option here...

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May 19, 2013, 06:44:33 PM
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There are other cleaning utilities you can try but AMD doesn't recommend them. You can't uninstall the SDK? Do you have time for a clean install of Windows? That will do the trick for sure. With the luck in the pool lately, I doubt you'll miss much.

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May 19, 2013, 07:04:36 PM
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What is a normal rate for invalid blocks, we seam to have a lot of those lately on top of bad luck. I remember 2 yesterday and now two today.

Invalid is just bad luck, too -- more machines hashing with increasing hash power = greater chance of "collision"
Not such hi number... Thinking that 4 in 2 days is normal is stupid... Last time Slush was fixing things when we had 2 in 4 days or something like that...
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May 19, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
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What is a normal rate for invalid blocks, we seam to have a lot of those lately on top of bad luck. I remember 2 yesterday and now two today.

Invalid is just bad luck, too -- more machines hashing with increasing hash power = greater chance of "collision"
Not such hi number... Thinking that 4 in 2 days is normal is stupid... Last time Slush was fixing things when we had 2 in 4 days or something like that...

Not quite 4 in 2 days

block=start_time,duration,hashes,luck,difficulty,confirmations
236729=2013-05-18 09:52:02,1:06:34,9169,0.61,11187257,invalid
236657=2013-05-17 20:34:35,2:27:43,9905,0.95,11187257,invalid
236442=2013-05-16 12:10:31,0:35:00,9526,0.84,11187257,invalid
236382=2013-05-16 01:59:30,0:25:24,9361,0.71,11187257,invalid

But unusually, I find myself tending to agree with Lucko for once - it does look a bit odd and we have had a problem before with bitcoind not having a fast enough connection to the outside world (so when we find a block we can report it the world as fast as is humanly (or computingly) possible).

But if we see this invalid rate drop off over the next few days then it probably was just bad luck.

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May 19, 2013, 08:08:55 PM
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Not quite 4 in 2 days
Sorry my mistake. I thought that RayJay counted that correctly... But then again it is only 8 hours more...

EDIT: Also looking at this: Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days):   91%, 83%, 97%.
7 days is doping but this is not enough to say it is a problem, but 30 days is a good indicator. If it goes down too much. Now it is hard to say anything. It is still normal. But if we see it below 85% is a really big chance that pool is really malfunctioning. 90% would be start thinking that it is not only counting shares but also other things...
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May 19, 2013, 08:22:53 PM
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Not quite 4 in 2 days
Sorry my mistake. I thought that RayJay counted that correctly... But then again it is only 8 hours more...

EDIT: Also looking at this: Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days):   91%, 83%, 97%.
7 days is doping but this is not enough to say it is a problem, but 30 days is a good indicator. If it goes down too much. Now it is hard to say anything. It is still normal. But if we see it below 85% is a really big chance that pool is really malfunctioning. 90% would be start thinking that it is not only counting shares but also other things...

I've been checking luck on other pools - most of the ones I look at are running with low luck and is not incomparable to ours. One exception stands out strongly - you'll never guess - BTCGuild - they are flying with luck atm. Bitminter's luck is even worse than ours... It'll change (I hope) - that's what luck does.

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May 19, 2013, 08:51:56 PM
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I've been checking luck on other pools - most of the ones I look at are running with low luck and is not incomparable to ours. One exception stands out strongly - you'll never guess - BTCGuild - they are flying with luck atm. Bitminter's luck is even worse than ours... It'll change (I hope) - that's what luck does.

BitMinter had less bad luck than Slush the week that just ended. Looks like BTCguild had very bad luck 6 weeks in a row - not what I call flying with luck. But yes, it seems to be finally turning around for them today. The pool that stands out is actually Itzod with some crazy good luck recently.

More fun statistics: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/

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May 20, 2013, 12:02:59 AM
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Well hire is another one...

18100   2013-05-19 08:25:54   0:06:07   770695   236893   25.06852200    invalid
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May 20, 2013, 12:25:04 AM
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Well hire is another one...

18100   2013-05-19 08:25:54   0:06:07   770695   236893   25.06852200    invalid

I can't help but wonder if this is a symptom of the increase in hashing speed. I wonder if once the difficulty compensates for the increased speed if these occurances will decrease as well.
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May 20, 2013, 12:45:30 AM
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Well hire is another one...

18100   2013-05-19 08:25:54   0:06:07   770695   236893   25.06852200    invalid

I can't help but wonder if this is a symptom of the increase in hashing speed. I wonder if once the difficulty compensates for the increased speed if these occurances will decrease as well.
I can't figure out how. The block generation is still same. If the block generation speed would increase then yes but it doesn't since difficulty increases. And the next difficulty change estimation is only 8% so the block generation is just a bit faster no a lot...

EDIT: We had much bigger changes in the past and this didn't happened.
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May 20, 2013, 01:45:31 AM
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I've been checking luck on other pools - most of the ones I look at are running with low luck and is not incomparable to ours. One exception stands out strongly - you'll never guess - BTCGuild - they are flying with luck atm. Bitminter's luck is even worse than ours... It'll change (I hope) - that's what luck does.

BitMinter had less bad luck than Slush the week that just ended. Looks like BTCguild had very bad luck 6 weeks in a row - not what I call flying with luck. But yes, it seems to be finally turning around for them today. The pool that stands out is actually Itzod with some crazy good luck recently.

More fun statistics: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/


Not quite - for the last few days we've consistently discovered more blocks than Bitminter. Looking earlier today - for 18th they had 10 and we had 14 (if I remember correctly - 12 are still visible on the stats page), then again - for 19th they had 16, we had 18.
And it's not just the last two days - on multiple occasions over the last few weeks when I checked - we always had same or more blocks per day.

Considering that they have 20-20% more hashpower than us - that says their luck is considerably worse than ours. So - no complaints from me about the luck. Smiley

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May 20, 2013, 01:50:36 AM
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I've been checking luck on other pools - most of the ones I look at are running with low luck and is not incomparable to ours. One exception stands out strongly - you'll never guess - BTCGuild - they are flying with luck atm. Bitminter's luck is even worse than ours... It'll change (I hope) - that's what luck does.

BitMinter had less bad luck than Slush the week that just ended. Looks like BTCguild had very bad luck 6 weeks in a row - not what I call flying with luck. But yes, it seems to be finally turning around for them today. The pool that stands out is actually Itzod with some crazy good luck recently.

More fun statistics: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/


Not quite - for the last few days we've consistently discovered more blocks than Bitminter. Looking earlier today - for 18th they had 10 and we had 14 (if I remember correctly - 12 are still visible on the stats page), then again - for 19th they had 16, we had 18.
And it's not just the last two days - on multiple occasions over the last few weeks when I checked - we always had same or more blocks per day.

Considering that they have 20-20% more hashpower than us - that says their luck is considerably worse than ours. So - no complaints from me about the luck. Smiley

That's pretty much what DrH said, except in more detail.

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May 20, 2013, 08:52:51 AM
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May 20, 2013, 03:03:52 PM
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Im a bit new to all this and have one question, with all this uncertainty in the last few days with invalids and improperly calculated blocks that fix themselves in time is it normal for Slush to not respond or is this out of the ordinary?
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May 20, 2013, 03:33:16 PM
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... is it normal for Slush to not respond or is this out of the ordinary?

Everyone can say what they want about the weird blocks, bad luck, late/missing payments, etc. But the one thing that worries me is the noticeable absence of Slush. Not only personally (seriously I do hope he's ok), but also for the pool's well-being.

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May 20, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
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Rate of invalid blocks is getting ridiculous,
18120    2013-05-20 15:38:18    0:04:08    Processing...    237069    25.16931001    99 confirmations left
Is not even found in blockchain.info

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May 20, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
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Server can keep up with the work?


Works fine




Found 1 block




Found 1 + 1 block 

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May 20, 2013, 04:05:49 PM
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Rate of invalid blocks is getting ridiculous,
18120    2013-05-20 15:38:18    0:04:08    Processing...    237069    25.16931001    99 confirmations left
Is not even found in blockchain.info

Hmm, Bitminter have had 2 invalids in last 12 days - we have had 9... I think there is something wrong now...

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