[ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development

[Joe_Bauers]

If no one object, I'll make a voting thread for logo final showdown with these four:


I'm using a bit of judgement to keep the final round of logo choice to these 4 because I don't want the votes to be spread too thin.

3D effect from C or D applied to A or B would probably look badass.

Like this?


I'm not sure I've made it look better than the simple version. You may need someone more skillful.

If Mjbmonetarymetals would be into doing something with A (same colours as C) (someone with more BTC's than me should donate to him for that) that might be a possibility.

[Gorgoy]

Good point. A hard limit should be set somewhere not in the Billion range though...

Difficulty scales supply to demand. You have to make a case for difficulty being too low for the near future demand (which doesn't seem the case IMHO), and in that case for the need of capping supply instead of just raising difficulty.

If demand raises healthily then two billion is fine. It's like one million wallets with 2,000 coins on average. Remember the final aim is to maximize demand, not to maximize the value per coin (it's not the same).

I so agree with this, there should not be a hard cap at all, it should be allowed to float. one million wallets is a small amount of wallets, if the YACoin takes off, like we all want it to. Most of the other coins or I should say, many of the other coins are very restrictive and limited in their minting, and that will be a serious problem in the coming future. As more people come to cryptocurrency the need for more coin will absolutely balloon. There is a psychological effect that takes place when someone trades a dollar and gets .00001 coin of anything. That is beginning to take effect with Bitcoin and will only get worse, at least that has been the case and the first comment made by non-tech friends that I talk to about Bitcoin or set them up with a Bitcoin wallet.

+1 Thank you for this great insight.  The idea that supply of a 'coin' shouldn't matter at all as it can be infinitely divisible--just move over decimal places and change the prefix.  However, it does matter as we are dealing with fiat where value is derived from perception, and the psychological impact of trading 1 dollar for 0.00001 of something is just as you said.  I believe we are witnessing this effect in the converse with infinitecoin? 

With that said, I am concerned with the massive drops in difficulty at N-changes.  People have complained about this coin basically being a GPU premine than CPU, but it seems to be the opposite.  The people who starting mining earlier had to do so at a much higher difficulty, and if the price per coin remained the same, it becomes more instantaneously profitable after difficulty drops with N-Change.  Am I way off?

+ Hi Beave, yes I do think you are correct that we are seeing the effects with infinitecoin, and I'm afraid that it just might get worse as time goes on. Regarding the N-Change, I have to study that. What effect could mining difficult have if the difficulty drops? Anyone have any ideas as to the possible affect? Would it cause people to flock to the coin, and cause people to start investing on in the coin? I'm not sure what the effects in the long term will be.

[Gorgoy]

If no one object, I'll make a voting thread for logo final showdown with these four:


I'm using a bit of judgement to keep the final round of logo choice to these 4 because I don't want the votes to be spread too thin.

3D effect from C or D applied to A or B would probably look badass.

Like this?


I'm not sure I've made it look better than the simple version. You may need someone more skillful.

I like YAK Logo more, but this one is at least not boring like all the other ones. IMHO YAC should be different to all these 08/15 Junkcoins to be recognised and accepted by more people. Apple had a long time the slogan "Think different" and over time it helped a lot to be different than the mainstream to become mainsteam 

+ I like the idea of putting it to a vote, the A and B should be more 3D. Personally I like C, I think it looks great. Remember I voted for the old Ox logo but I really like C, it has grown on my very quickly.

[eule]

I guess this bug is in Yacoin (and all other altcoins using the bitcoin 0.8 codebase) too?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287351

[ilostcoins]

If no one object, I'll make a voting thread for logo final showdown with these four:


I'm using a bit of judgement to keep the final round of logo choice to these 4 because I don't want the votes to be spread too thin.

If no one submit an "upgraded" version of these designs, I intend to make a voting thread on Friday with these logos as they are.

If you want to defer the vote, please post here or PM me before Friday.

[alenevaa]

Congrats!
I hope we'll see 1 million block number!


LONG LIVE YAC!

[Beave162]

No good lord no. How is that stupid 'Yak' imagery not killed off yet? The value of fiat is based off of perception, and a funny-looking animal as the symbol is great to sway the perception of an outsider? The issue has already been addressed earlier in this thread... here are the logos to use, but I obviously like the one in my profile... http://imgur.com/NyRv4oc,NrPE30u,tHZ59ga,7BGBnGI,WzSU1Mc,ny0zcw3,tH5L9QA,tf0HQqq,BeYDNvK,MLL536l,1wlxCzx#8

[Thirtybird]

TAA-DAAAAA!
Happy 200,000 blocks to everyone and thanks to all who helped YACoin reach it's current state!

And look, it's a POS block to boot - how cute!  Anyone want to step forward and say it was theirs?

[eule]

No good lord no. How is that stupid 'Yak' imagery not killed off yet? The value of fiat is based off of perception, and a funny-looking animal as the symbol is great to sway the perception of an outsider? The issue has already been addressed earlier in this thread... here are the logos to use, but I obviously like the one in my profile... http://imgur.com/NyRv4oc,NrPE30u,tHZ59ga,7BGBnGI,WzSU1Mc,ny0zcw3,tH5L9QA,tf0HQqq,BeYDNvK,MLL536l,1wlxCzx#8

Don't you see the Yak in your preferred logo? 

[sairon]

TAA-DAAAAA!
Happy 200,000 blocks to everyone and thanks to all who helped YACoin reach it's current state!

And look, it's a POS block to boot - how cute!  Anyone want to step forward and say it was theirs?

http://yacexplorer.tk/address/YJWC48zWbRkCh4K7wxtJRDgPq6k6sRxFuz come on!

[ilostcoins]

TAA-DAAAAA!

LONG LIVE YAC!

 

[Gorgoy]

TAA-DAAAAA!
Happy 200,000 blocks to everyone and thanks to all who helped YACoin reach it's current state!

Happy that YACoin made it, and yes hope we get to the 1 Millionth!!!! Go YAC!!!!

[diskodasa]

Can someone help me, I have a problem with corrupted wallet.dat. At first my wallet didn't want to synchronise with the database, then after reinstalation of OS (win7 x64), I am getting a message "Cannot initialise keypool". Please help!!! How to restore my wallet?

[diskodasa]

Can someone help me, I have a problem with corrupted wallet.dat. At first my wallet didn't want to synchronise with the database, then after reinstalation of OS (win7 x64), I am getting a message "Cannot initialise keypool". Please help!!! How to restore my wallet?

Start YACoin, go to Help > Debug window > Console and then type checkwallet and hit enter. Afterwards do the same but use repairwallet
Response on my side for both commands is the following:

Code:

{
"wallet check passed" : true
}

Post what responses you got.

18:28:45

{
"wallet check passed" : true
}


18:28:56

repairwallet


18:28:56

{
"wallet check passed" : true
}
Both have passed, but my wallet is hanging still, and cannot sync pass the ~74000 block and counting, as blocks are found. It just "sits" there...

[diskodasa]

Shutdown YACoin, wait like 30 seconds and then run it with -reindex option. Easiest way to do it on Win OS would be to create a shortcut
for yacoin-qt.exe file, right click on shortcut and select Properties and then add -reindex after program path at Target field. For me it is:

Code:

"C:\Program Files\YACoin\yacoin-qt.exe" -reindex

Start YACoin using shortcut and let it complete blockchain reindex. Once the job is done (it might take a while), shutdown YACoin again, replace
-reindex with -rescan and then run it again. Afterwards remove -rescan else wallet will be rescanned on every run.

What YACoin version are you using?

Nope! It's not working. Idid all of that but it's just sitting there and counts found blocks. I have reinstalled win and saved wallet.dat, now that wallet.dat is somehow corrupted. I have tryed 32bit and 64bit version of wallet and it is the same thing. But, without that wallet.dat the wallet loads, with different addres, without any problems. So how can I get my address back?

[diskodasa]

I do not understand what you mean with "just sitting there and counts found blocks". Once you use old wallet, does YACoin loads in full or not?
If it does, are there any coins in old wallet? At what stage of YACoin loading message "Cannot initialise keypool" appears?

Not sure if YACoin supports it but Bitcoin has command -salvagewallet that is used the same way as -rescan and -reindex ones. You should
make a copy of old wallet first, just in case something goes wrong, e.g. never ever work on original file.

Code:

18:30 	gmaxwell 	hmph, after salvagewalleting that ultraprune mangled wallet, I'm now getting a nice generic "10/21/12 18:05:32 Bitcoin: Cannot initialize keypool" and then the node stops cleanly.
18:34 	sipa 	gmaxwell: nice catch
18:34 	sipa 	-salvagewallet should set fFirstRun to false
18:36 	sipa 	or at least the keypool init shouldn't be done

http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2012/10/21

Also:

Code:

06:37 	Diablo-D3 	did you use backup wallet command or did you just blindly copy the wallet while bitcoin was still running?
06:38 	koshii 	Diablo-D3: I'm pretty sure that the wallet wasn't running, but yeah, I just copied the file. I was berated for this earlier; didn't even know the command was there.
06:38 	sipa 	that's what seems to have happened
06:38 	Diablo-D3 	koshii: yeah, next time, explicitly use backup wallet

http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2013/05/01

Once it loads it come to the certain point of reading blocks and just stops. After that it just counts the blocks currently found. It has only come to that point, and I have llike 5 coins confirmed and the rest is uncomfirmed...
After command -salvagewallet it shows that message "Cannot initialize keypool".
I have just copied wallet.dat on flashdrive, format the hard drive, reinstalled Win7 U x64, started the yacoin wallet (yacoin-qt-0.4.0.0-g2nd-winx64, tryed also with 32bit version), after succesfull start of wallet I turned it off, copied wallet.dat from the flashdrive and then all the problems started.
Now! Can you tell me how can I salvage my coins from that wallet?

[Joe_Bauers]

I turned it off, copied wallet.dat from the flashdrive and then all the problems started.

Since this is when the problem started, I'm guessing that something got corrupted on the copy to/from the flashdrive. Do you have another copy of your wallet?

[diskodasa]

I turned it off, copied wallet.dat from the flashdrive and then all the problems started.

Since this is when the problem started, I'm guessing that something got corrupted on the copy to/from the flashdrive. Do you have another copy of your wallet?

No I don't have it. That is the problem...

[St.Bit]

No I don't have it. That is the problem...

Ouch ...

If checkwallet=true then you should be able to dumpprivkeys aswell and import it into another wallet. Use sairons version with coin controll so you don't miss any hidden change adresses.

[diskodasa]

I have no more ideas or possible solutions. You might find fix if you post about the issue on Bitcoin Technical Support part of forum or check for
fix on this forum and elsewhere on Internet. There are programs for wallet management, one of them is called pywallet or something like that.

My version of wallet is v0.4.0.0-g32a928e-yac-wm-alpha, it is sairon's latest Coin Control 32-bit version. Check if it works with your old wallet.dat

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276948.0

Actually, it did work, but now it stops ~35000 block and when I tried to rescue some confirmed coins by sending them to the address i got the message: Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library "This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusal way. Please contact the application's support team for more information."