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February 12, 2018, 02:31:02 PM
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I am still amazed to see the number of posts regarding merit and rankings.  I am not going to lie, I was upset right in the beginning as well because I was set to become a Member on the next activity cycle but now I have to still earn 5 more merit points to get there.  As with any change, there are going to be people for and against it...people are going to try and work the system and still get what they want.  I am definitely all for making this forum a better place and not having as many spam posts.  I am just thankful we all have a place to come and discuss issues with crypto and hopefully gain some knowledge from the folks that have been around for a while.  Thanks and Good Luck!

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February 12, 2018, 04:11:40 PM
Last edit: February 12, 2018, 04:22:49 PM by YuTü.Co.in
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I am still amazed to see the number of posts regarding merit and rankings.  I am not going to lie, I was upset right in the beginning as well because I was set to become a Member on the next activity cycle but now I have to still earn 5 more merit points to get there.  As with any change, there are going to be people for and against it...people are going to try and work the system and still get what they want.  I am definitely all for making this forum a better place and not having as many spam posts.  I am just thankful we all have a place to come and discuss issues with crypto and hopefully gain some knowledge from the folks that have been around for a while.  Thanks and Good Luck!

I concur! This sM-cum-Merit thingy haz definitely stop this forum's 1.8M+ user base from spamming the threads, most likely because a new tab/window opens up if one desires to dole out sM to their brethren's heavy post, a new tab/window not deemed a security risk unlike all other links on this forum which only open in the same tab because otherwise they pose a security risk. Meanwhile, this forum has stopped legacy entities from accessing its API because that, too, poses a security risk, but that doesn't stop rogue entities from using the same API to blast PMs advertising their services for ... wait for it ... blasting PMs containing paid-for ads.

I have a great imagination but the above is beyond my prowess in conjuring up.

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February 12, 2018, 04:16:40 PM
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I have made 800 posts so far being very active on this forum. at the beginning I asked so many questions from senior members of this forum. Actually When I came to this forum My crypto knowledge is zero. now I have a fair knowledge thanks to this forum. I didn't create a bitcointalk account just to participate in bounty campaign. meanwhile Some one informed about them and I just looked gathered information about them and decided to participate them. currently I am following one signature campaign. But once I started signature campaign the new merit system comes to the stage.  Now it is very hard to rank up. I have made so many posts. I don't think they are rubbish. but still I got only 1 merit, It will take years to rank up to member from Jr. member for me. So  I won't be able to do any Signature campaign which asks for rank status of member.  and I don't know when I can rank up to Member with this merit gaining rate. I think other new members who stay at Jr. member rank level facing the same problem. It is very very hard to get merits.  Cry


800+ posts and only 56 activity.. wow, that has to be one of the biggest discrepancies on here lol..

How did you manage this did you like make a few hundred posts over several weeks then never post again lol

Still i agree with JayJuanGee, there are some good posts.. shame you didn't pace yourself more as you'd be a higher rank by now.

I didn't have any knowledge about Crypto world. So I opened many threads and responded for comments asking questions etc.. This all happened at the beginning. Now I don't have to make posts like that.
No matter how many posts you published earlier It takes 14 days to calculate activity amount. Now even though you enough activities still you need merit. So  chance is very less to up rank. I think this system has to be modified..

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February 12, 2018, 04:17:52 PM
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This is whats on my mind since merit introduced. Popular and famous people will get the merits easily, so it is like a popularity contest for new and mid rank members, since high rank members are not too many on numbers and some of them are well known on this forum. So, higher merit means he/she/it is a famous and popular person in the forum, but in the future it may be hard to distincts someone who gets 1000 merits since lower rank from someone who already had 1000 merits because of they are already high rank when merit introduced. Here is just some idea that comes in to my mind, what if we have a new medal/symbol/mark/coin like rank does, or just made the coin for the rank becomes a different color if someone achieve a merit milestones. It is just some idea, feel free to comment it anyway.

That's not a bad suggestion. It might be easier to do simply by adding another line under Merit called 'Earned Merit'. That will make it just as easy to distinguish a Legendary account that inherited 1000 merit and one that has been awarded it.



Spamming, so when the time is about to get activity (near 14 days) , they will just do 1 post and then then get 14 points.

Quite possibly but more often than not it is simply they don't understand the activity system and still try to spam their way up the ranks just by posting as quickly as they can.



If you can show me any post that I have published in spamming way...

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February 12, 2018, 04:23:12 PM
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This is whats on my mind since merit introduced. Popular and famous people will get the merits easily, so it is like a popularity contest for new and mid rank members, since high rank members are not too many on numbers and some of them are well known on this forum. So, higher merit means he/she/it is a famous and popular person in the forum, but in the future it may be hard to distincts someone who gets 1000 merits since lower rank from someone who already had 1000 merits because of they are already high rank when merit introduced. Here is just some idea that comes in to my mind, what if we have a new medal/symbol/mark/coin like rank does, or just made the coin for the rank becomes a different color if someone achieve a merit milestones. It is just some idea, feel free to comment it anyway.

That's not a bad suggestion. It might be easier to do simply by adding another line under Merit called 'Earned Merit'. That will make it just as easy to distinguish a Legendary account that inherited 1000 merit and one that has been awarded it.



Spamming, so when the time is about to get activity (near 14 days) , they will just do 1 post and then then get 14 points.


Quite possibly but more often than not it is simply they don't understand the activity system and still try to spam their way up the ranks just by posting as quickly as they can.


No itsn't like that, That's my way. I had no any knowledge about Crypto world. so I gathered information from people here asking questions. But I don't have to do that any longer. So posting pace stopped, I can see you people's posts amount is lower than mine. Check some of yours posts as well. I invite you to check my posts before come to a conclusion.

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February 12, 2018, 04:26:23 PM
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This is whats on my mind since merit introduced. Popular and famous people will get the merits easily, so it is like a popularity contest for new and mid rank members, since high rank members are not too many on numbers and some of them are well known on this forum. So, higher merit means he/she/it is a famous and popular person in the forum, but in the future it may be hard to distincts someone who gets 1000 merits since lower rank from someone who already had 1000 merits because of they are already high rank when merit introduced. Here is just some idea that comes in to my mind, what if we have a new medal/symbol/mark/coin like rank does, or just made the coin for the rank becomes a different color if someone achieve a merit milestones. It is just some idea, feel free to comment it anyway.

That's not a bad suggestion. It might be easier to do simply by adding another line under Merit called 'Earned Merit'. That will make it just as easy to distinguish a Legendary account that inherited 1000 merit and one that has been awarded it.



Spamming, so when the time is about to get activity (near 14 days) , they will just do 1 post and then then get 14 points.

Quite possibly but more often than not it is simply they don't understand the activity system and still try to spam their way up the ranks just by posting as quickly as they can.



If you can show me any post that I have published in spamming way...


Okay, I'll start with this one, the second of a back-to-back-to-back posts in one thread. Actually, the giveaway was the ellipsis.  Tongue Tongue Tongue

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February 12, 2018, 05:18:13 PM
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This is whats on my mind since merit introduced. Popular and famous people will get the merits easily, so it is like a popularity contest for new and mid rank members, since high rank members are not too many on numbers and some of them are well known on this forum. So, higher merit means he/she/it is a famous and popular person in the forum, but in the future it may be hard to distincts someone who gets 1000 merits since lower rank from someone who already had 1000 merits because of they are already high rank when merit introduced. Here is just some idea that comes in to my mind, what if we have a new medal/symbol/mark/coin like rank does, or just made the coin for the rank becomes a different color if someone achieve a merit milestones. It is just some idea, feel free to comment it anyway.

That's not a bad suggestion. It might be easier to do simply by adding another line under Merit called 'Earned Merit'. That will make it just as easy to distinguish a Legendary account that inherited 1000 merit and one that has been awarded it.



Spamming, so when the time is about to get activity (near 14 days) , they will just do 1 post and then then get 14 points.

Quite possibly but more often than not it is simply they don't understand the activity system and still try to spam their way up the ranks just by posting as quickly as they can.



If you can show me any post that I have published in spamming way...

I wasn't actually accusing you individually of spamming I was explaining why so many Newbies overpost before they work out it isn't getting them anywhere.

As you asked apart from back to back posting as @YuTü.Co.in just pointed out you seem to be spend a lot of time posting in off-topic or shilling for CVProof (whatever that is).

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February 13, 2018, 12:15:51 AM
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I don't see people giving merit to each other meanwhile the people who are supposed to be slowed(bounty "hunters") by Merit are simply merit brigading each other.

Extremely unfair to people who was 1 week away to the next rank
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February 13, 2018, 01:28:06 AM
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Hi,
I can't find sMerit on CoinMarketCap.

When do you think it will be listed ?  Grin
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February 13, 2018, 01:30:22 AM
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I don't see people giving merit to each other meanwhile the people who are supposed to be slowed(bounty "hunters") by Merit are simply merit brigading each other.

They may have a first flood advantage but it will run out soon enough..

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February 13, 2018, 02:15:01 AM
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Just face the facts.  Many of us will be stuck at our current rank for a long time, if not forever.  Stop complaining about the merit system because life isn't fair.  Otherwise, everyone would be rich. 
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February 13, 2018, 03:02:43 AM
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Just face the facts.  Many of us will be stuck at our current rank for a long time, if not forever.  Stop complaining about the merit system because life isn't fair.  Otherwise, everyone would be rich.  


I would think that most members should be able to rank up to member status (which is currently 10 merits as we should recognize) as long as they can draft intelligible posts.  You have already received 4 merits, so you only have 6 merits to go in order to be able to rank up to member status.   However, it does seem that the higher ranks may be a bit more challenging to achieve, and I suppose that was part of the intention behind the change in the system (in other words a feature rather than a bug), and yep, to get merit, members are going to need to attempt to create interesting and interactive posts in order to receive merit points from other members.

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February 13, 2018, 03:12:11 AM
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I already saw merit selling on the internet...
Where? Feel free to report it. I do not think that merit sales or trades should be condoned. As I have stated in the past, it is equivalent to buying trust.

With something new to improve the forum.. new money making path opens.
Not supporting it but I doubt some people will think I support it unless I say it loud and clear! after the line, i made above  Roll Eyes
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February 13, 2018, 06:54:07 AM
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Merit is correct, because the forum will be cleaner, the percentage of productive and useful posts will increase, which will lead to better signature campaigns for the ICO. Such a system ("sympathy") on many forums is, and I always wondered why it is not on bitcointalk. Well, that's it! Freebies is over! Perhaps this is also due to the increase in the number of people on the forum. Now many people here cry that I can not get any more rank, I think that whoever came earlier in this topic should receive more. And if we want to achieve a new rank, we should be better in everything, like in sports!
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February 13, 2018, 07:59:41 AM
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Just face the facts.  Many of us will be stuck at our current rank for a long time, if not forever.  Stop complaining about the merit system because life isn't fair.  Otherwise, everyone would be rich.  


I would think that most members should be able to rank up to member status (which is currently 10 merits as we should recognize) as long as they can draft intelligible posts.  You have already received 4 merits, so you only have 6 merits to go in order to be able to rank up to member status.   However, it does seem that the higher ranks may be a bit more challenging to achieve, and I suppose that was part of the intention behind the change in the system (in other words a feature rather than a bug), and yep, to get merit, members are going to need to attempt to create interesting and interactive posts in order to receive merit points from other members.

From newbie to member shouldn't be too hard.  Member to Full member is also do-able but might take longer than people like.  Beyond that, will take some serious ass kissing.  Maybe even require to go on a date with Theymos. 
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February 13, 2018, 08:45:17 AM
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I wish i could rank up to junior so that I could be able to join signature campaign or any related activities with bounty. As of now investing bitcoin is not my priority since I have to conduct a study with the system. And as I read some of the post and threads, I have learned that there are other ways in getting bitcoin and that is by participating campaign. Well that is not bad and if ever it will be successful then I guess trading like buying or selling would be the next part. That's the time I think O should start investing in bitcoin.
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February 13, 2018, 09:38:09 AM
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I don't see people giving merit to each other meanwhile the people who are supposed to be slowed(bounty "hunters") by Merit are simply merit brigading each other.

They may have a first flood advantage but it will run out soon enough..
Theymos doesn't want to ban people, he is giving a fair opportunity to us to either earn our ranks or be a begging slave with 10 accounts trying to earn money that one account with a high rank could'v earned.

@theymos, is there a bot like the one used by Bitmixer to check for signatures of campaign participants? *I am going to merit any body with no signature for a week, do you think people would still post if they are not getting paid? contributing while you have no incentive is merit worthy. lets torture these beggars  by only giving them merits if they have no signature, they have tortured **us all this time.

*That is a lie, I am running out of sMerits.
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February 13, 2018, 09:46:58 AM
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I don't see people giving merit to each other meanwhile the people who are supposed to be slowed(bounty "hunters") by Merit are simply merit brigading each other.

They may have a first flood advantage but it will run out soon enough..
Theymos doesn't want to ban people, he is giving a fair opportunity to us to either earn our ranks or be a begging slave with 10 accounts trying to earn money that one account with a high rank could'v earned.

@theymos, is there a bot like the one used by Bitmixer to check for signatures of campaign participants? *I am going to merit any body with no signature for a week, do you think people would still post if they are not getting paid? contributing while you have no incentive is merit worthy. lets torture these beggars  by only giving them merits if they have no signature, they have tortured **us all this time.

*That is a lie, I am running out of sMerits.
**Can I be in "us" for a few days?

#usol.

Although I like the idea, as with most things, there will be a (small?) group of people that will be disadvantaged: those who have a signature unrelated to a campaign, and those, like myself, who "advertise" for a coin in their signature, but who don't receive any bounty for it (XSPEC does not give bounties. I am just using it out of conviction).

I will not have sleepless nights if you manage to implement the suggested approach, and I get missed out. Just wanted to raise it as a potential point some others might start worrying about.
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February 13, 2018, 10:48:21 AM
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Just face the facts.  Many of us will be stuck at our current rank for a long time, if not forever.  Stop complaining about the merit system because life isn't fair.  Otherwise, everyone would be rich.  


I would think that most members should be able to rank up to member status (which is currently 10 merits as we should recognize) as long as they can draft intelligible posts.  You have already received 4 merits, so you only have 6 merits to go in order to be able to rank up to member status.   However, it does seem that the higher ranks may be a bit more challenging to achieve, and I suppose that was part of the intention behind the change in the system (in other words a feature rather than a bug), and yep, to get merit, members are going to need to attempt to create interesting and interactive posts in order to receive merit points from other members.

From newbie to member shouldn't be too hard.  Member to Full member is also do-able but might take longer than people like.  Beyond that, will take some serious ass kissing.  Maybe even require to go on a date with Theymos.  

If some Junior is not able to get 10 merits to get to the Member rank he surely doesn't deserve to rank up. I think we can carve this truth in stone. As for rising to higher ranks, either the supply and especially circulation of sMerits in the system will grow considerably, or effectively people might start considering your suggested Plan B and Plan C Smiley
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February 13, 2018, 10:58:56 AM
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This post worth a bump at least for awareness.  Noobie here trying to grow my roots.  Some bounty and airdrop requirements seem daunting at first, given my time available to spend on crypto in general.  I'm sure it will come with time and once I have the knowledge for quality posts.
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