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[efxes]

Hey guys, I just made a new thread in this subforum (gambling) PLEASE COME OVER AND SUPPORT IT NOW


Here's the post.  Will you guys please come over and support the thread to get Cloudbet off of bitcointalk?  I don't want to keep bumping this thread and advertising it, even though it helps some people I think others just keep seeing the title and don't follow what is going on with the scams.

Here's the post.  And here is a link to the thread I just created:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279500.0


"Cloudbet should no longer be allowed on bitcointalk: A danger to the community"
___________________________________________________
They stole $15,000 from me in bitcoin.  They have done it to countless other people.  They are constantly stealing from people and not paying them.  The only way they pay is if you find a way to prevent people from depositing and things.  They are truly a virus on the community.  There are tons of people talking about how they just confiscated $15,000 of my deposits with vague TOS rules, and we are just bumping their thread further and many people are just seeing Cloudbet advertised and not following what is going on.

You guys should see all of the scams in the past the site has been dealing with.  They owe me $15,000 and countless others.  You can follow my scam accusation thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277995.0



You can also see a list of about 30 scam threads started from different people over the years here:

Cloudbet Not Responding For My 330 BTC Withdrawal
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106313.0

CLOUDBET IS SCAM! They are not paying for winning bets!- status?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105084.0

Cloudbet SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103376.0

Cloudbet - SCAM - 30BTC being stolen
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5074681.0

Cloudbet Void french ligue 1 winning bet without reason.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068083.0

Cloudbet scammers? Many Users don't get their Money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4898772.0

CLOUDBET - stay away from these scammers
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4807822.0

Cloudbet SCAM? Refusing to payout
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4088023.0

Cloudbet SCAM?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3469100.0

cloudbet accepted deposit, but no withdrawal
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256084.0

CLOUDBET JUST BANNED ME AND WONT ALLOW ME TO WITHDRAW
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2979923.0

(SCAM?) BEWARE WITH CLOUDBET
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2902574.0

CLOUDBET SCAM?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2702669.0

Cloudbet does not payout money
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2571860.0

Cloudbet is knowingly and willfully stealing my bitcoin - Solved Iguess
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2398658.0

cloudbet is a scam website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1880426.0

Dont Deal With Cloudbet.com - SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1865653.0

CLOUDBET SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1862880.0

Cloudbet Refusing Withdrawal
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1836370.0

cloudbet is a scam website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828332.0

Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1801016.0

calling the attention of CLOUDBET
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1794631.0

Is cloudbet.com scam ?? [ solved ] - Solved
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1755403.0

Cloudbet.com don't pay out winning
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1736901.0

Cloudbet not sending my withdrawal...not answering emails
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1687157.0

Stay Away from Cloudbet ( Fraud Sportsbook )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686721.0

Cloudbet Not sure about OPs intention
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1651314.0

Cloudbet.com - SCAM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1640675.0

Don't use cloudbet.com because they haven't pay yet over 24 hr my withdraw
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1497105.0

SCAM cloudbet WARNING
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1470919.0

cloudbet SCAM WARNING
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1440736.0

Cloudbet.com
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346952.0

CLOUDBET.COM IS A SCAM!! STOLE MY 25 BTC FOR NO REASON, RIP OFF BE CAREFUL!!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=991041.0

CLOUDBET is a scam!!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846266.0

Cloudbet Scam - This Could happen to ANY cloudbet player
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819311.0

Cloudbet scam..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618715.0

really bad one
https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/ao6txz/warning_bitcoin_sportbook_cloudbetcom_is_trying/

I just went in their discord chat and there was another message from the chat who said they rolled him for 2 BTC ($20,000) and they aren't paying him back either.



I know how the place operates.  They offer an extremely wide selection of odds to anonymous users who use only crypto-currency- this leaves their sportsbook extremely vulnerable to any sharp action or syndicate bettors who can take advantage of obscure betting lines and matches.  Then when they begin to get hit, they find ways to just ban any winning bettor and confiscate the money.

They confiscate the money not only to profit themselves and put it back into marketing budget to get losing gamblers, but they also want to break any winning bettor so that they don't come back and make a new account and continue to gamble with them.

Instead of Cloudbet using this model and scamming people left and right, how about they just offer less betting lines and higher juice and not be an entirely thieving corporation? 

Also their username has begun to get serious amounts of flags and some negative trust rating, and I hope it continues and they are completely banned from the site and their thread taken down.  See their profile here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563

They have a legendary account and guess what, positive trust ratings mostly due to influencer marketing and signature campaigns.  They are bringing in new suckers to steal money from.  If they don't win it by gambling losses, they take the money by force.  Any long term winner on the site will get KYC'd and served some sort of TOS to keep the funds, or they'll just hold it indefinitely and not even respond.  I've seen it all. 

Can we get rid of this thieving site?  How about you return my money first, Cloudbet?  Again, see the scam accusation thread and decide for yourself if these people should still have a place on bitcointalk as a legendary person.  I don't think so.  I will ask others who know about what is going on to weigh in on this thread and I hope you do keep it up.  We need to clean up these scammers from the crypto community- they are obviously rampant with what they can get away with being anonymous.

Again they need to change their business model so that they don't need to scam people in order to survive as a casino. 


They want to take $15,000 from me, out of my deposits and say since I am a winning account they can do that #1 and #2 they are saying that because I logged in from a USA IP and have a permanent residence in USA that I could not have been gambling on their account for 3 months from Mexico where I have been staying during the pandemic since I am out of work.  I need the funds for my day to day life, they were processing tons of deposits and cashouts.  See here all my deposits to the site.

Here are all of the deposits I had made to the site in the last days.
2020-09-20 02:03
-62.870026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2b5e75e192cdb526bdd9d2b533e7d2831a7c1b396dabb7c140d0d6d7f56f11ff

2020-09-20 03:42
-30.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/01e511b44f7764c5c0777d5e05bb0a0469735dac1986f7e1c7ce88a329165804

2020-09-20 03:42
-40.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/e65e1d247510d1b3eadfd9b60e60e684317aef3d05c89bcea63899e56f65e70f

2020-09-20 04:35
-25.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/b9ff51ded44267f6cb791115c22f6efd3e6601f74883c8c659b1a27e005f2a63

2020-09-21 04:06
-17.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4aba5056b29de5c859fbee68cd4d97cc0c62f0fe9569e7e919d82eda414b5db8

2020-09-21 04:46
-13.500043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2e41abd57b82f45f79bd2f53ad54351c95bd31572fb4a6a5ae3cf2b7109069a7

2020-09-21 04:46
-7.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/a75034c751b2237dedcd1ce9e83f8e36c159ad7b46e54b2f428c46af42a3b412

2020-09-21 06:46
-20.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/ef102b75b7d0203ab30d59220884f4e434a13708b338aa58f55d44a5cdf958bf

2020-09-21 08:21
-10.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/5eaff8faf8d150b90401064fe08e6e2fbf57c9165c4293133c641121d999df3c

2020-09-21 08:23
-5.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/d7464120ea42e93516bd69b9480198602408f66002ff642340a5741b2bf8fda4

2020-09-21 09:11
-16.00004247: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/c68f163c2e0c96e1ee88ab16e6f4027de708a9c3a3c938a0c3630b652b5173ef

2020-09-22 00:19
-40.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/95500ca4c75f1fccdfa8f7be857e0cb970ab65452a2d5652bedaeb0025b5a18e

2020-09-22 03:16
-30.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/f275fba7618cb81e1703abc6db23ef861ef8ddb76ae43bd398bb0a27f241340b

2020-09-22 08:32
-8.380026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/d33c583f3657e815293faa3c941ef334e36265b9425ed29480d3662d2fc40408

THE FINAL DEPOSITS:

2020-09-23 04:47
-24.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/0aa77c3a5bc46f9dcd68f5cc5a8b3bc0022a489e6cb52169ec2f068d6200ac5c

2020-09-23 06:29
-20.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4a38b8c78869faac477e7599e3203c35aeb45df952bc47d0913668434f432a83

2020-09-23 07:36
-16.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2e7d94c62df064ca773b1d5f070bd66fa9f8e6dd43ecc3561f8eb8f3b9a054b1

2020-09-23 11:25
-3.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/acd56954dbd14b667ee8ee75c4ea15cf2657af95c700fcd458d5bace3f63f8aa

2020-09-23 11:25
-11.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/b18dc22fcc787e1bbcc36d9137b4debbdb8e923dcf52dcce9bb10eee1f5763d3


FINAL CASHOUT REQUEST was around 67 BCH.  Some other cashouts had been processed along the way without freezing the account yet.





I trusted them with tons of money and they waited until I deposited a lot of funds until they scammed me and took all the money.  They also pulled an even worse move- they mis-graded a wager, the winning total was about $3,000.  But my account balance at the time was about $30,000.  I didn't notice the mis-grade, and they were telling me that since there was a mis-grade, ALL the bets I made after that should be voided because I didn't let them know personally and was playing with their funds.  it was 10% of my account balance and I had no idea.  It was a retire in a 2nd set and some books have different rules so I wouldn't know. 

If they don't change they need to go.  Where is the $15k Cloudbet. 


-efxes

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[Salauddin1994]

Once a bet is made it is very difficult to take it back but if you take a good look at the websites before paying there is no fear of losing even if the sites are closed in the case of cloudbet many have lost faith in paying in advance which is why mexico and the united states will not enter into an agreement on the game.

[JollyGood]

@Cloudbet

Please could you confirm the following:

1) What were the total number of deposits the user efxes made before his account was closed

2) What were total amount of accumulative funds user efxes deposited before his account was closed

3) What were the total amount of funds that user efxes gambled

4) What were the total amount of funds that user efxes won by betting

5) What was the total amount that you returned to user efxes before closing his account

Your answers will provide enough information for members to be able to conclude if the amounts involved (what he sent to Cloudbet and what Cloudbet returned to him) are disputed or not.

Furthermore, the Cloudbet reputation was already affected after years of disputes and allegations and this is one more in a long line of complaints. Unlike the other incidents though, there is now a website which clearly will be indexed by search engines and will bring negativity to your business like never before: https://cloudbetscams.com

If Cloudbet are not in the wrong there are plenty of members here that will support it but if Cloudbet have selective scammed efxes then there will be no member that will ever defend Cloudbet.

Please try to reach out to efxes and resolve this matter.

Thank you

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the case of efxes.

Our Player Safety Team performed a standard verification check on the account after noticing several failed logins from the USA.

Our authentication log reveals that the player attempted to authenticate from the USA followed by several other European cities within minutes - this clearly goes against his claim that he is living in and playing from Mexico.
  
Whilst the player complied and supplied an identity document and proof of address, he failed to submit documents that support his claims of residing in Mexico. We consequently closed the account after confirming a clear breach of our terms and licensing agreement.

We ensured that the player received the total sum of their deposit back and consequently consider this case to be closed.

[Bazinga442]

Well well well, nothing new to see here, it seems nothing has changed with cloudbet. Still stealing deposits and freerolling players... 

[tbterryboy]

Feels so bad to see cloudbet doing shady things because this was one of my first sportsbook I used to bet on but even that time they used to pause my withdrawals and I had to email the support to get my withdrawal out from their jaws. I stopped betting and I am glad I did so because what is happening right now looks very bad and big thanks @JollyGood to ask the questions we all wanted to but now you asking them at least put some weight on them.

I cannot understand why they are so reluctant to answer genuine questions and if they are already turned complete scam already in which case RIP to the gamblers who have money there.

[efxes]

Really I'm so curious.  Why have I not been paid yet?

[akram143]

Really I'm so curious.  Why have I not been paid yet?

No one can answer you until their representative come back online, so be patient until they comes online hope you will get your money back.

[efxes]

@Cloudbet

Please could you confirm the following:

1) What were the total number of deposits the user efxes made before his account was closed

2) What were total amount of accumulative funds user efxes deposited before his account was closed

3) What were the total amount of funds that user efxes gambled

4) What were the total amount of funds that user efxes won by betting

5) What was the total amount that you returned to user efxes before closing his account

Your answers will provide enough information for members to be able to conclude if the amounts involved (what he sent to Cloudbet and what Cloudbet returned to him) are disputed or not.

Furthermore, the Cloudbet reputation was already affected after years of disputes and allegations and this is one more in a long line of complaints. Unlike the other incidents though, there is now a website which clearly will be indexed by search engines and will bring negativity to your business like never before: https://cloudbetscams.com

If Cloudbet are not in the wrong there are plenty of members here that will support it but if Cloudbet have selective scammed efxes then there will be no member that will ever defend Cloudbet.

Please try to reach out to efxes and resolve this matter.

Thank you

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the case of efxes.

Our Player Safety Team performed a standard verification check on the account after noticing several failed logins from the USA.

Our authentication log reveals that the player attempted to authenticate from the USA followed by several other European cities within minutes - this clearly goes against his claim that he is living in and playing from Mexico.
  
Whilst the player complied and supplied an identity document and proof of address, he failed to submit documents that support his claims of residing in Mexico. We consequently closed the account after confirming a clear breach of our terms and licensing agreement.

We ensured that the player received the total sum of their deposit back and consequently consider this case to be closed.

You sir, are the MAN.
I can't wait to see what they have to say to this.  But really, I just want to be paid.  I wish they would just do legit business so people didn't have to suffer.

[qory]

Many people are very disappointed with Cloudbet now. Their last days seem to be numbered. Think they don't care about this and just keep going. It is good that the user Efxes has taken action and dedicated a website to there. Hopefully he will get his money back. The number of people who have complained about Cloudbet isn't sick either. That is really quite a laundry list. How can this bookmaker still exist? In any case, users have been warned on the forum. They really owe that yellow card to themselves after all those problems of not paying out to customers. Especially that of those 330 BTC was a real drama for the customer.
I hope exfes will get paid, and get the money that he deserves.

[NotATether]

I wonder if Cloudbet would be willing to appoint mediators from the bitcointalk community like Sportsbet did when another user complained about a closed account. I think it's the only way to break this deadlock. Otherwise we're just going to keep going back and forward between asking exfes questions about his account and complaining to Cloudbet and no real progress will be made.

This is the scam accusation thread about Sportsbet, where they posted they appointed mediators, for those who are curious: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io (Withholding funds) [dispute settled]

It is good that the user Efxes has taken action and dedicated a website to there.

What do you mean? I don't recall reading here about him making a website about this accusation.

[JollyGood]

There is no evidence that efxes is the person behind the website but the timing of registration (WHOIS) and content does seem to indicate there could be a link: https://cloudbetscams.com/

I wonder if Cloudbet would be willing to appoint mediators from the bitcointalk community like Sportsbet did when another user complained about a closed account. I think it's the only way to break this deadlock. Otherwise we're just going to keep going back and forward between asking exfes questions about his account and complaining to Cloudbet and no real progress will be made.

This is the scam accusation thread about Sportsbet, where they posted they appointed mediators, for those who are curious: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io (Withholding funds) [dispute settled]

It is good that the user Efxes has taken action and dedicated a website to there.

What do you mean? I don't recall reading here about him making a website about this accusation.

[efxes]

I'm working with a member who is helping to put it up but I don't know him very well but he's been extremely helpful and says it could help in getting the word out and possibly getting me paid.  I just gave him all the info I have.  He is still working on it.

I really need to get paid, what the hell is going on. 

[efxes]

I'm going to take a brief hiatus from the thread and see what the community and Cloudbet can come up with.  I'm not doing well in my mind, this has casued me significant emotional, mental, physical stress and has me doing things I wouldn't normally do like post on many forums.

Don't know how you guys would take getting robbed of your life savings- I am not doing well.

I pray for the day I get paid, and I normally don't believe in a higher power.  Please help.

[efxes]

One thing I ask- it looks like this story is making the rounds.  Can you guys please go put in a good word at Reddit, I think this will really help.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/j4ewah/cloudbet_scams_customer_for_15000_in_bitcoin_cash/?sort=new

[Arcas]

Hello Exfes,

ON THE SITE FROM CLOUDBET
Source: https://partners.cloudbet.com/en/legal/license/
Cloudbet License
Cloudbet is a licensed bitcoin betting site under both E-Gambling Montenegro and Curaçao eGaming.

E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o (Podgorica, Moskovska br. 65., reg. no. 50615951) hereby certifies that under the concession (serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 5A i 1ERR) and approval (no. 02/02-118⁄4), organise and operate games of chance in Montenegro on website www.cloudbet.com in accordance with the Agreement on management and financial cooperation, concluded between E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. and TIGER TREE HOLDINGS do.o.o (Cetinje, Njegoseva br. 97., reg. no. 50721755) TIN: 03035166 on 05 March, 2015 which is valid from 05 September, 2018 until 05 March 2019.

www.cloudbet.com is also licensed by Curaçao eGaming under the company name Halcyon Super Holdings B.V. - Pareraweg 45, Curaçao - and under the License No. 1668/JAZ issued to Curaçao eGaming, authorised and regulated by the Government of Curacao.

I hope the following information will be useful for you.
Tracking in Montenegro is a hopeless and difficult task (or you must have the right connections, which I don't have)
However, the Curacao register is accessible publicly.
The owner of Halcyon Super Holdings B.V. is Xecutive Corporate Management B.V. (one company manages the other)
I have shown the owners of this company in a screenshot below.



I can already tell you that the real owner of Cloudbet (the UBO) is not listed here. There has been too much thought about that. But 1 of these 3 people (and probably all 3) can tell you who is responsible for this Cloudbet scam site. You could look online to see if you can get in touch with one of these people. Since they operate a trust office, they are also liable in some sense of the word. It is about $ 15,000 for you, then something like that is worth a try.
No, I have nothing against Cloudbet on a personal level, but a study on the forum and the internet shows that they have made way too many victims, and the measure is now full. They ruin it for other trustworthy bookmaker, who also become dupre this way and get a general bad name.

[efxes]

I also have zero against cloudbet.  I just want my money back and for this to never happen to others.

[mirakal]

I also have zero against cloudbet.  I just want my money back and for this to never happen to others.

I saw the scam accusation thread against you created, that was created october 2 but Cloudbet was last online on october 1, maybe have a little patience, I also like to see their response on the accusation either in this thread or the scam accusation thread.

[ultrloa]

I also have zero against cloudbet.  I just want my money back and for this to never happen to others.

I saw the scam accusation thread against you created, that was created october 2 but Cloudbet was last online on october 1, maybe have a little patience, I also like to see their response on the accusation either in this thread or the scam accusation thread.

This is the answer given on this thread, but I don't know what take them so long to resolve the issue while they already verify it and do the action. Also they don't bother to be active now and solve the issue, best to show that they are trusted since by now many users are watching this thread to see if they will gonna solve it or they will insist to hold the money of the affected user.

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the case of efxes.

Our Player Safety Team performed a standard verification check on the account after noticing several failed logins from the USA.

Our authentication log reveals that the player attempted to authenticate from the USA followed by several other European cities within minutes - this clearly goes against his claim that he is living in and playing from Mexico.
 
Whilst the player complied and supplied an identity document and proof of address, he failed to submit documents that support his claims of residing in Mexico. We consequently closed the account after confirming a clear breach of our terms and licensing agreement.

We ensured that the player received the total sum of their deposit back and consequently consider this case to be closed.

[mirakal]

I also have zero against cloudbet.  I just want my money back and for this to never happen to others.

I saw the scam accusation thread against you created, that was created october 2 but Cloudbet was last online on october 1, maybe have a little patience, I also like to see their response on the accusation either in this thread or the scam accusation thread.

This is the answer given on this thread, but I don't know what take them so long to resolve the issue while they already verify it and do the action. Also they don't bother to be active now and solve the issue, best to show that they are trusted since by now many users are watching this thread to see if they will gonna solve it or they will insist to hold the money of the affected user.

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the case of efxes.

Our Player Safety Team performed a standard verification check on the account after noticing several failed logins from the USA.

Our authentication log reveals that the player attempted to authenticate from the USA followed by several other European cities within minutes - this clearly goes against his claim that he is living in and playing from Mexico.
 
Whilst the player complied and supplied an identity document and proof of address, he failed to submit documents that support his claims of residing in Mexico. We consequently closed the account after confirming a clear breach of our terms and licensing agreement.

We ensured that the player received the total sum of their deposit back and consequently consider this case to be closed.

Thanks, I didn't see that, I was referring to the scam accusation there that was created after that reply, if that so, then why would this user is still complaining?

I just want my money back and for this to never happen to others.

[JollyGood]

This is understandable from your perspective. You just want Cloudbet to return the funds you say they stole from you and you want a commitment from them that they will not scam anybody again. It is not fair that they have held on to your funds for so long and you are not happy about it.

I really hope they login here and read the posts users are making about them, their reputation is really falling to pieces now so it is in their interest to try to resolve this issue with efxes as soon possible. I hope Cloudbet start engaging in meaningful dialogue with efxes which results in him being returned his funds so we can all move on from this incident.

I also have zero against cloudbet.  I just want my money back and for this to never happen to others.