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April 27, 2014, 06:57:20 AM
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Because Yatsenjuk is a Greek-Catholic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arseniy_Yatsenyuk).
[sarcasm] You can immediately see why he represents a majority of Ukrainians after having been lawfully elected. [/sarcasm]

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 27, 2014, 07:58:48 AM
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You can't make this up (wiki): "Yatsenyuk is popularly known by the nickname "The Rabbit" because of his resemblance to the eponymous character in the Soviet adaptation of the Winnie-the-Pooh cartoon."  Smiley



WTF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IADMGxZiSA#t=11




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April 27, 2014, 09:02:27 AM
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He also has a less kind call-name, based on a slight rewrite of his surname: Yajcenjuh - "egg sniffer", as in "balls sniffer".  Cool

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 27, 2014, 09:18:22 AM
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Because Yatsenjuk is a Greek-Catholic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arseniy_Yatsenyuk).
[sarcasm] You can immediately see why he represents a majority of Ukrainians after having been lawfully elected. [/sarcasm]

Catholics have a good presence in Lviv, Ternopol and Ivano-Frankivsk. Perhaps this might be used as a justification by the Catholic-Muslim mafia to invade Ukraine, just like they did in Kosovo.
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April 27, 2014, 09:32:58 AM
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They're not catholics, they're adepts of mutant sect. Praising the Pope but using orthodox rites. Pathetic enough in itself because it looks like they are frozen in the transitional state, for the centuries.
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April 27, 2014, 10:34:17 AM
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lol.... this is getting comic. Mikhail Khodorkovsky tried to visit the Donetsk region and naturally was told to bugger off. Nasty man. Should have stayed quiet. Putin should have never released him from the prison.  Grin
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April 27, 2014, 10:42:56 AM
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lol.... this is getting comic. Mikhail Khodorkovsky tried to visit the Donetsk region and naturally was told to bugger off. Nasty man. Should have stayed quiet. Putin should have never released him from the prison.  Grin

Quite agree. But I guess Putin release both him and Pussy Riot, so that the West would have fewer levers to criticize him (not that the West is incapable of finding something else to grumble over, when it comes to Russia).

More on the Hodorkovskij news:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/27/04/2014/920751.shtml

The defenders of the Donbass administration told him that he can learn everything he needs to learn about what is happening from the Russian journalists, who already report from the administration building.

In other news:
Romania sent an anti-aircraft defence system convoy to the Black Sea:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1150682?utm_medium=rss20
Romanians also asked US to station an aviation squad until 2017 and plan to buy 12 used F-16 from Portugal.
Some Romanian analysts believe that Bucharest must prepare to sent its troop to (invade) Odessa and Chernovits regions.
While other say that placing American systems in Romania only paints a fat target sign on the country, and oppose further NATO presence in the country.

Obama calls upon EU and US to coordinate their sanctions against Russia
http://www.newsru.com/world/27apr2014/obamaukr.html
Fun: Ukraine uses military against its citizens, Russia gets sanctions; US imposes a puppet government in Ukraine, Russia gets sanctions; NATO pulls more military to Russian borders, Russia gets sanctions. Roll Eyes

Citizens of Stahanov town in Lugansk region started building barricades around the administrative building:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1150599?utm_medium=rss20

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 27, 2014, 04:13:50 PM
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lol.... this is getting comic. Mikhail Khodorkovsky tried to visit the Donetsk region and naturally was told to bugger off. Nasty man. Should have stayed quiet. Putin should have never released him from the prison.  Grin

Quite agree. But I guess Putin release both him and Pussy Riot, so that the West would have fewer levers to criticize him (not that the West is incapable of finding something else to grumble over, when it comes to Russia).

More on the Hodorkovskij news:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/27/04/2014/920751.shtml

The defenders of the Donbass administration told him that he can learn everything he needs to learn about what is happening from the Russian journalists, who already report from the administration building.

In other news:
Romania sent an anti-aircraft defence system convoy to the Black Sea:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1150682?utm_medium=rss20
Romanians also asked US to station an aviation squad until 2017 and plan to buy 12 used F-16 from Portugal.
Some Romanian analysts believe that Bucharest must prepare to sent its troop to (invade) Odessa and Chernovits regions.
While other say that placing American systems in Romania only paints a fat target sign on the country, and oppose further NATO presence in the country.

Obama calls upon EU and US to coordinate their sanctions against Russia
http://www.newsru.com/world/27apr2014/obamaukr.html
Fun: Ukraine uses military against its citizens, Russia gets sanctions; US imposes a puppet government in Ukraine, Russia gets sanctions; NATO pulls more military to Russian borders, Russia gets sanctions. Roll Eyes

Citizens of Stahanov town in Lugansk region started building barricades around the administrative building:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1150599?utm_medium=rss20

Nemo , I'm commenting only on part of the news about Romania Smiley , since you asked.
I'm traveling right now and I don't have enough info on all this but:

1) Romania planned to buy those planes since 2011 , there is a whole political debate why we are buying those damn planes since two years ago the date when the last government dissolved.
There is no connection between what's happening in the east and those planes.
Simply , out old migs can't fly anymore , they are junks.
The contract was signed in 2013 and the planes will be delivered in late 2014 /2015.

2) We don't have such a system. The Romanian navy can only fight against ships from the Spanish armada at most. Those ships are all part of the us navy.
We only have one ship armed with anti air missiles and is not currently in operation.

3)  Analyst? This term is similar to the "developers" that create all those copycat clones. Most of the people you see on tv in romania are both economic-politic-sport-weather analyst. Depends what's on hand.

What can I say without any doubt , that nobody in Romania is insane enough to think that we should start a war to regain our territory from 1918.
Most of the people here despise both the us and nato and the ex soviets so we don't want to get involved in this mess.





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April 27, 2014, 05:08:22 PM
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Nemo , I'm commenting only on part of the news about Romania Smiley , since you asked.
I'm traveling right now and I don't have enough info on all this but:

Thanks, niothor. News agencies tend to jumble everything they can dig up into one news item, so it was informative and interesting to get a local outlook on things.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Last edit: April 27, 2014, 08:51:11 PM by Balthazar
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http://rt.com/news/155168-us-eu-sanctions-russia/

US failing to push economic sanctions against Russia through EU allies

The new round of sanctions against Russia, which the EU and the US plan to unveil Monday, will not target the Russian economy. Washington said it won’t use economic sanctions without the EU also signing up to them.



http://rt.com/news/155204-ukraine-protesters-tv-station/

Anti-govt protesters seize TV station in eastern Ukraine, call for own channel

Pro-Russian protesters have seized a local state TV station in the city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, demanding that Russian TV channels be broadcast there. They also want to launch a “Donetsk People’s Republic” TV channel.

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April 27, 2014, 11:03:21 PM
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http://rt.com/news/155168-us-eu-sanctions-russia/

US failing to push economic sanctions against Russia through EU allies

The new round of sanctions against Russia, which the EU and the US plan to unveil Monday, will not target the Russian economy. Washington said it won’t use economic sanctions without the EU also signing up to them....
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If "we" have a built-in excuse to back off and come home, that is actually much better.

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April 28, 2014, 01:24:07 AM
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In Kharkov, the football ultras clashed with the anti-Kiev protesters, injuring more than a dozen. It is alleged that several dozen Right Sector Nazis took part in the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594HWc_WEBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZWsht8KRSo
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April 28, 2014, 09:04:20 AM
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United States continues its sanctions against Europe:
Europe is prohibited by the US to use Russian rockets to launch its satellites, if said satellites contain American technology.
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/04/28/launch/

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What is going on with helicopter carriers (two ships iirc) France was supposed to deliver to Russia, is the contract cancelled?
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April 28, 2014, 10:27:52 AM
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Nemo , I'm commenting only on part of the news about Romania Smiley , since you asked.
I'm traveling right now and I don't have enough info on all this but:

Thanks, niothor. News agencies tend to jumble everything they can dig up into one news item, so it was informative and interesting to get a local outlook on things.

Digging through the news....and I found out something I really didn't want to come across
Some Russia propaganda about Romania , and how bad it was for us to join the EU.


http://adevarul.ro/news/eveniment/rusia-declansat-propaganda-stupida-romaniei-1_535d40a50d133766a8244db6/index.html

And of course , the reactions are the one I've thought.
During all this crisis there were about 10/15 comments on the news  50/50 ru/us.
Now 100 people telling that reporter to gfy...

The same stupid propaganda with a reporter in a forgotten village , just like those american experts digging the sand to find Iraq nuclear weapons.



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April 28, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
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What is going on with helicopter carriers (two ships iirc) France was supposed to deliver to Russia, is the contract cancelled?

Yes. Cancelled.

http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/20140321-france-suspends-most-military-cooperation-russia
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April 28, 2014, 10:52:48 AM
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What is going on with helicopter carriers (two ships iirc) France was supposed to deliver to Russia, is the contract cancelled?

Yes. Cancelled.

http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/20140321-france-suspends-most-military-cooperation-russia
Now France must pay a penalty according to the contract and refund the advance payment. Cheesy

It's actually fine, because these helicopter carriers would be useless. They are useful only to frighten the natives in Somalia, such senseless contracts and were the reason why Serdyukov was removed from office.
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April 28, 2014, 11:00:39 AM
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Now France must pay a penalty according to the contract and refund the advance payment. Cheesy

It's actually fine, because these helicopter carriers would be useless. They are useful only to frighten the natives in Somalia, such senseless contracts and were the reason why Serdyukov was removed from office.

That will be good. May be some of the local manufacturers back at Russia could revive the contract and produce the helicopter carriers at a lower price. Anyway... this would mean thousands of lost jobs in France.
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April 28, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
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Anyway... this would mean thousands of lost jobs in France.
And more support for non-puppet parties instead of current pseudo-socialists.
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April 28, 2014, 11:35:26 AM
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And more support for non-puppet parties instead of current pseudo-socialists.

Hollande is facing all time low popularity figures and the only party which is gaining votes at the moment is Front National of Marine Le Penn. It is important to note that the FN supports Russia in the Ukraine crisis.
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