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May 23, 2020, 08:22:41 PM
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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.
Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.
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May 23, 2020, 08:30:59 PM
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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.
Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.

But currently many things going with IPL is going to played this year and Twenty/20 World cup is going to postponed for few months and now going to played in February/March because India is very powerful country in ICC so they can do this without any problem recently two cricket boards already give surprise announcements about World cup postponement like South Africa and New Zealand.
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May 23, 2020, 10:03:11 PM
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Since the Indian Govt has advised the People to learn to live with the Coronavirus, BCCI will try to find a window among the current schedule to host IPL with a minimum crowd. But considering the current scenario, I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.
I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity Undecided.
As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)
I don't think that the case, because no other foreign leagues take place during IPL season if I am not wrong. So BCCI doesn't have to worry about the loss of fans regarding IPL.   

Not exactly during the IPL, but if famous Indian players continue to join the other league the those league will get popularity, Just imagine Indian players in the big bash league.
And the another factor is lots of players used to play domestic league for their states but if they were allowed some player may take retirement quickly and  will join the foreign leagues which will be not good for Indian cricket.

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May 23, 2020, 10:09:11 PM
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Sourav Ganguly is a BCCI president first and I do not think he will vote for T20 World Cup when he knows how important it is for BCCI financially to conduct IPL. Therefore I doubt he will vote Worldcup over IPL.
As a player and captain who changed Indian cricket i expect Sourav Ganguly to give importance to the T20 World Cup than financially motivated IPL, he will not look for the business side but what is fair in a situation like this.

I am sure they will organise the IPL with out any spectators using local players and if foreign players want to come they will provide them with necessary safety measure. They will opconduct these matches in states where there are less cases as if now Kerala, Telengana, Himachal Pradesh and few others have shown a huge improvement.
I can assure that Kerala will not allow any sort of sporting events in the near future, their only aim is to bring back people who are stuck abroad and make a safe environment for everyone and more than four lakh people are expected to return from different countries. People safety first and then sports and that will be the motto Wink. And if everything returns to normal then it might allow sports to return, other than that the Kerala government will not allow a sporting event to hold up medical staff and other facilities for a sports to carry on while the common people needed it most.

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As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)
Since Sourav Ganguly is the president i expect him to think logically rather than tying up these players whose potential to earn as a sportsperson is very limited, my view is to get rid of all these obligations and restrictions, let these players earn from different leagues world wide.
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May 23, 2020, 10:40:38 PM
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But currently many things going with IPL is going to played this year and Twenty/20 World cup is going to postponed for few months and now going to played in February/March because India is very powerful country in ICC so they can do this without any problem recently two cricket boards already give surprise announcements about World cup postponement like South Africa and New Zealand.
We still have five more months as per the schedule to make a decision and by that time i expect the situation to be under control and even if the BCCI is powerful how can they change a tournament that is already scheduled unless the global situation is not allowing it to continue.

18 October to 15 November 2020 is the tournament date and i expect it to continue as scheduled.

And the another factor is lots of players used to play domestic league for their states but if they were allowed some player may take retirement quickly and  will join the foreign leagues which will be not good for Indian cricket.
Having an iron fist as a dictatorship should be removed, the players should have the ultimate freedom to choose their career than someone dictating it to them.
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May 23, 2020, 11:36:09 PM
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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.
Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.


I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.

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May 24, 2020, 12:13:46 AM
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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.
Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.


I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.

IPL is more important to BCCI than any other tournament, it is surely the highest revenue grossing event for it. A lot of national and international corporates are backing this event and that is one of the majors reason why BCCI wants this league to happen more than the T20 worldcup.

Remember most of these corporates are also the major sponsors of the T20 Worldcup.

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May 24, 2020, 12:56:50 AM
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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.
Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.


I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.
Even if we have IPL this year then it may not be profitable as previous years because people got affected economically in worse ways so its impossible to imagine them to spend their remaining money for entertainment events.And T20 is also much likely to get postponed if the virus spreads is not under complete control because players won't take risk on their life.
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May 24, 2020, 05:16:16 AM
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After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.
I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity Undecided.
As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)
I don't think that the case, because no other foreign leagues take place during IPL season if I am not wrong. So BCCI doesn't have to worry about the loss of fans regarding IPL.    
Bilateral cricket does happen, take ex of India's tour of Australia. BBL happens during same time, i find it weird that sometimes even premiere Australian players don't take part in BBL so why should we expect same from the Indian players?

Other reason is Demand and supply.

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Since Sourav Ganguly is the president i expect him to think logically rather than tying up these players whose potential to earn as a sportsperson is very limited, my view is to get rid of all these obligations and restrictions, let these players earn from different leagues world wide.
Sounds good if you want to see Indian players turning into mercenary cricketers.

IMO the best thing BCCI can do is

-Exclude any players who has national contract. (No NOC for them)
-Give NOC (1 foreign league) to retired or any players who are T-20 specialists only
-No T-20 foreign leagues for test players, keep them in IPL.
-I am against Younger players getting into foreign leagues, IPL is more than enough for them to show their talent and Keep them busy with the 4 day cricket strictly be in Ranji/counties/ Shield.
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May 24, 2020, 11:35:59 AM
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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.
Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.


I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.
Even if we have IPL this year then it may not be profitable as previous years because people got affected economically in worse ways so its impossible to imagine them to spend their remaining money for entertainment events.And T20 is also much likely to get postponed if the virus spreads is not under complete control because players won't take risk on their life.

Coronavirus has dent the profits in all the fields and sports is also effected by it. If IPL does take place this year, it will be a bonus for them and the management will happily conduct the tournament, even if they get less revenue.  Having a tournament is better than not having the series altogether.
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May 24, 2020, 12:10:55 PM
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-I am against Younger players getting into foreign leagues, IPL is more than enough for them to show their talent and Keep them busy with the 4 day cricket strictly be in Ranji/counties/ Shield.

I don't agree with this argument. We have 8 IPL teams, and 7 slots out of the total of 11 in the playing XI are reserved for Indian nationals. That means that on average, IPL gives opportunity to 50-60 Indian players. What about the others? There is a huge amount of competition for the available slots, and I have seen promising players missing out because of the dominance of senior players.
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May 24, 2020, 02:37:25 PM
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-I am against Younger players getting into foreign leagues, IPL is more than enough for them to show their talent and Keep them busy with the 4 day cricket strictly be in Ranji/counties/ Shield.

I don't agree with this argument. We have 8 IPL teams, and 7 slots out of the total of 11 in the playing XI are reserved for Indian nationals. That means that on average, IPL gives opportunity to 50-60 Indian players. What about the others? There is a huge amount of competition for the available slots, and I have seen promising players missing out because of the dominance of senior players.

In IPL its mandatory for every franchise to include at least 2 players from under 22 team in the squad, normally its 18-25 Men squad considering IPL runs for 2 full months. Franchise picks more than 2 younger players from the domestic circuit or Under 19, 21 and 22 all the time if players are worthy, they gets paid handsomely too. Its another discussion if they get pick for playing XI or not but it shouldn't be a much issue as they gets picked by franchise for grooming purpose, if someone is good enough then he might get chance sooner or later.

The way i see it 16-22 age is for grooming and every youngster gets into limelight only because of 4 days cricket or under 19 WC, this is basic rule for every test playing nation. So 4 days cricket should be more important at this stage, unless they decides to ditch Test cricket for good and want to become T-20 specialist.
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May 24, 2020, 03:55:46 PM
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18 October to 15 November 2020 is the tournament date and i expect it to continue as scheduled.
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I'm not sure if someone has shared it earlier, but ICC is planning to postpone the World cup T20 and these are 3 alternatives which is going to discussed as the article

1. Feb-March, 2021: The event could be held early next year but Cricket Australia is reportedly not too keen on the idea considering the Indian Premier League (IPL) will start right after. To have as many T20 matches for consecutive 3-4 months could lead to overkill. The dates also coincide with England's tour of England which is a big headache.
2. Postpone to 2022 and swap hosting rights: The idea of Cricket Australia hosting the 2021 edition of the T20 World Cup and India taking the rights for the 2022 edition has also surfaced but it has been reported that the BCCI is not too keen on the idea of this sort of a switch.
3. Australia to host 2022 T20 World Cup instead of 2020: Touted as the most feasible decision, this could see the 2020 edition being postponed by 2 years while Australia would retain the hosting rights.

So yeah ICC is also looking to put IPL before T20 World cup  Undecided
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May 25, 2020, 09:34:35 AM
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So yeah ICC is also looking to put IPL before T20 World cup  Undecided
Not sure what future holds for any local tournament such as IPL.

But about this statement -ICC favoring BCCI's interests- ; Ironically ICC threatening BCCI again with the Tax thingy and repeating their old rant -Will strip 2021-2023 World Cup host rights-

Ugly exchange of emails between ICC & BCCI over 'tax solutions'
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Some cricketers have started practicing in green zones with full protection and social distancing. Film and TV shoots also are going to start while they said no viewers will be allowed in stadiums. Will they still want to organize IPL? When old TV shows are getting such a high TRP, I don't think it's a bad idea to telecast IPL on TV only without live audience after 3-4 months. They would still earn.

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So yeah ICC is also looking to put IPL before T20 World cup  Undecided
Not sure what future holds for any local tournament such as IPL.

But about this statement -ICC favoring BCCI's interests- ; Ironically ICC threatening BCCI again with the Tax thingy and repeating their old rant -Will strip 2021-2023 World Cup host rights-

Ugly exchange of emails between ICC & BCCI over 'tax solutions'

I don't think that the ICC will get a tax exemption from the government, especially with the authorities facing an acute shortage of funds due to the COVID situation. In the previous occasions also, the ICC failed to get tax exemption, when the tournaments were conducted in India. They can try hard and badmouth as much as they want, but in the end they will be paying the taxes.
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^^ One of the key challenge Sourav Ganguly facing, it would be interesting to see how BCCI handle this situation under his leadership.

ICC knows that you "Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs." But sometimes i wonder what would happen if ICC actually kick India out from the international cricket.. 
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^^ One of the key challenge Sourav Ganguly facing, it would be interesting to see how BCCI handle this situation under his leadership.

ICC knows that you "Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs." But sometimes i wonder what would happen if ICC actually kick India out from the international cricket.. 

Both the sides make as much noise as they want, but I have a feeling that none of them want a direct confrontation. The IPL needs the participation of overseas players, and ICC need revenues from India. If BCCI was in favor of an all out confrontation, then it would have happened a long time back, when the ICC reduced the fund allocation to India by around 40%.
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^^ One of the key challenge Sourav Ganguly facing, it would be interesting to see how BCCI handle this situation under his leadership.

ICC knows that you "Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs." But sometimes i wonder what would happen if ICC actually kick India out from the international cricket..  

Both the sides make as much noise as they want, but I have a feeling that none of them want a direct confrontation. The IPL needs the participation of overseas players, and ICC need revenues from India. If BCCI was in favor of an all out confrontation, then it would have happened a long time back, when the ICC reduced the fund allocation to India by around 40%.
Agreed, I am sure even BCCI is in no mood to explore that road.

Having said that if i look at the history then i see a kerry packer example and he was just one guy, he was about to broke the chains. By going this standard if BCCI gets into corner completely then we can only imagine how much damage they can do to the world cricket considering majority of revenue comes from the India, All they have to do is contact any cricket board directly with bilateral series and once in a year offer double amount of money to foreign players for IPL, which BCCI can afford to do easily.
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Agreed, I am sure even BCCI is in no mood to explore that road.

Having said that if i look at the history then i see a kerry packer example and he was just one guy, he was about to broke the chains. By going this standard if BCCI gets into corner completely then we can only imagine how much damage they can do to the world cricket considering majority of revenue comes from the India, All they have to do is contact any cricket board directly with bilateral series and once in a year offer double amount of money to foreign players for IPL, which BCCI can afford to do easily.

The question is not whether the BCCI can afford that. The real question is whether the players from other countries would be willing to turn against their own national boards. Earlier, the ECB and CA were offering unconditional support to the BCCI. But their stance has changed recently, and they adopted an anti-BCCI position during the recent administrative changes. So I don't think that any of the boards would side with the BCCI. And I don't expect many defections from the players. In countries such as Australia, the players always put national duty over money. If such a situation arise, then I don't think that BCCI will find too many takers for their offer, outside countries such as West Indies and Pakistan.
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