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June 07, 2020, 03:59:39 AM
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Yeah the virus is taking its toll on the world economy however opening up now seems to be a bad decision as the cases are growing out of control now even worse now then when it started. Australia is starting to open up just when the winter season is starting so I don't know how this will go and if there is a second wave here then we could say goodbye to the T20 world cup being played this year.

There will be at least one major event this year. Either the IPL, or the T20 World Cup. Else many of the cricket boards will go bankrupt. So my guess is that the ICC will try its best to conduct the World Cup. Even if the Australian government demand 2 weeks of mandatory quarantine, I guess the cricket boards will agree to that. As a last resort, ICC may move the tournament to some other country in case they don't get the permission from the Australian government.

Well right now we would think it would be the T20 world cup with how the virus cases are low and continue to remain low in Australia compared to India where the cases are getting out of control with the daily cases rising. I was thinking that if the situation changes in Australia that maybe New Zealand could be the perfect place to host the T20 world cup as they are doing a great job at maintaining the virus cases.

NZ can only be safe place for T20 world cup if only the T20 WC is played between Australia and NewZealand. Since players and people all around the world will come to NZ/Aus to play the world cup, this will make it vulnerable to pandemic.
But I don't think we are going to New Zealand for twently/20 world as Australia is also doing hard work for this all and they will ready on time as now things are doing good for them and they have some good results just be positive for this all and wait for next call from officials.


What call you are taking about from the cricket officials ? I think they have already postponed the T20 World cup to 2022 and there is no chance that it can be arranged before that time.



No decision yet on World cup, they will take decision on next meeting. There is still chances we will have world cup. Otherwise this world cup will never happen because of tight schedule.

So when will this decision is going to take place ?  They still want the T20 worldcup to be played while ignoring the fact that covid 19 pandemic is not over yet. It look like lock down is over and things have opened up but the fact is that the infected patients are increasing every day. It will be a risk for the players if the world cup happens on time this year.
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June 07, 2020, 05:49:45 AM
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~I just hope that the situation in Australia remains the same with the virus as the T20 world cup could still go ahead if there isn't a second wave in Australia and New Zealand. The only problem then is other teams coming over to Australia and New Zealand as I would suspect they would under go tough screening for the virus so its safe for all players and teams involved. I'll be interested to see what the ICC decide in their next meeting.
It depends upon how the Australian government wants to view the situation and allow sporting events to continue. The rest of the countries who are planning to participate should take steps to test the players and how well the Australian government will view these is another complex situation. The ICC can take a decision only if the government is open for the tournament.

I do not think that the Australian government will not want such an event to happen. The problem will be the rest of the countries whether they will agree in being part of this event.

The government also has to prove that they are well prepared in conducting such an event and then only ICC can take the decision of organising this event. Looking at the present condition in Australia I do not think that will be an issue.

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June 07, 2020, 01:04:52 PM
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It would be good start if they conduct BPL when their premium players not playing any important series. Why would anyone watch BBL (except locals) when their own players playing in the high profile series at the same time (For ex : Australia VS India)

Normally that's what they do. The BBL is usually conducted during the December-January window, when normally the Australian team does not play any bilateral series. This year, however this may change. Limited time period may be available and there may be an overlap between the matches of the national team and the BBL season this year.
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June 07, 2020, 07:24:33 PM
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I do not think that the Australian government will not want such an event to happen. The problem will be the rest of the countries whether they will agree in being part of this event.

The government also has to prove that they are well prepared in conducting such an event and then only ICC can take the decision of organising this event. Looking at the present condition in Australia I do not think that will be an issue.
There is too much political involvement needed to conduct a tournament and majority of the time these politicians cannot agree to a simple same logic and with all these constraints involved it is not an easy job for the ICC to determine the best possible solution until every board takes the responsibility on getting the permission from their respective government and then deciding on when the tournament can take place. First the ICC can start with the Australian government about conducting the tournament.
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It would be good start if they conduct BPL when their premium players not playing any important series. Why would anyone watch BBL (except locals) when their own players playing in the high profile series at the same time (For ex : Australia VS India)

Normally that's what they do. The BBL is usually conducted during the December-January window, when normally the Australian team does not play any bilateral series. This year, however this may change. Limited time period may be available and there may be an overlap between the matches of the national team and the BBL season this year.

you know that one of the biggest events of the ICC is T20 world cup, but till now it is uncertain whether the world cup will be held this year due to coronavirus pandemic.  so, I don't think BBL could be held during this epidemic. If BBL will held exclusively, then it is almost sure that BBL will never be held during the "National Team's" series, because it will lose their business and no 'Domestic League' will want to take responsibility for a loss project.

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June 07, 2020, 10:44:46 PM
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There is too much political involvement needed to conduct a tournament and majority of the time these politicians cannot agree to a simple same logic and with all these constraints involved it is not an easy job for the ICC to determine the best possible solution until every board takes the responsibility on getting the permission from their respective government and then deciding on when the tournament can take place.
If the international travel resumes i do not think that we need a special permission form the government, i am not sure about the restrictions imposed in Australia and when they will be opening international flights and i do not think they will be closing everything down infinitely as it will have a huge impact on the economic structure and many companies will go bankrupt if they delay resuming business.

If there is a clarity when everything is set to resume then the ICC can resume with the tournament.
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June 07, 2020, 11:37:43 PM
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If there is a clarity when everything is set to resume then the ICC can resume with the tournament.
There are varied ideas and opinion about conducting the world cup from former players and these are situations that is really confusing and have no idea what is the idle solution for the problems we are facing in this world. The pandemic situation is getting better than we used to have and New Zealand and Australia are far better than the rest of the most affected areas and we might have a clarity in the coming months.
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June 08, 2020, 01:54:33 AM
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It would be good start if they conduct BPL when their premium players not playing any important series. Why would anyone watch BBL (except locals) when their own players playing in the high profile series at the same time (For ex : Australia VS India)

Normally that's what they do. The BBL is usually conducted during the December-January window, when normally the Australian team does not play any bilateral series. This year, however this may change. Limited time period may be available and there may be an overlap between the matches of the national team and the BBL season this year.

Oh well, i feel like i am repeating myself  Tongue. Yes BBL window is Dec-Jan but they always play international home series at the same time, no matter what, Don't forget about "Boxing Day Test" which is fixed for X-mas.

2016-17 South Africa tour of Australia (Oct-Nov-Dec-Jan)
2017-18 England tour of Australia (Nov-Jan)
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June 08, 2020, 04:53:38 AM
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If there is a clarity when everything is set to resume then the ICC can resume with the tournament.
There are varied ideas and opinion about conducting the world cup from former players and these are situations that is really confusing and have no idea what is the idle solution for the problems we are facing in this world. The pandemic situation is getting better than we used to have and New Zealand and Australia are far better than the rest of the most affected areas and we might have a clarity in the coming months.

@7788bitcoin according to Michael Holding who’s a former West Indies pacer, he has suggested that BCCI should be allowed to stage the IPL if ICC fails to organise the T20 World Cup. Also according to Dean Jones who’s a former Australian cricketer he has made a smart suggestion, i.e. to shift the T20 World Cup venue from Australia to New Zealand as New Zealand has almost won the battle against Covid. However at this stage we do not know whether we will be seeing IPL or we will be seeing the T20 World Cup, and till the ICC announces it’s final decision we can only continue to speculate about these events.

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https://www.essentiallysports.com/cricket-news-dean-jones-believes-icc-t20-world-cup-is-possible-if-venue-changes-from-australia-to-new-zealand/

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcricket/sports-news/ipl-2020-bcci-has-every-right-to-hold-tournament-if-t20-world-cup-is-postponed-says-michael-holding-8458391.html
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June 08, 2020, 10:29:58 AM
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The Floyd issue triggered certain Cricketers too and am surprised to see Sammy hurling allegations all of a sudden after so long about the IPL. He never expressed his resentment before since money probably kept his mouth shut.

Far worse incidents happened in comparison to what he experienced. This article talks about a couple of them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/when-racism-stumped-cricket/amp_articleshow/76253537.cms

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June 08, 2020, 04:56:20 PM
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Oh well, i feel like i am repeating myself  Tongue. Yes BBL window is Dec-Jan but they always play international home series at the same time, no matter what, Don't forget about "Boxing Day Test" which is fixed for X-mas.

2016-17 South Africa tour of Australia (Oct-Nov-Dec-Jan)
2017-18 England tour of Australia (Nov-Jan)
2018-19 India tour of Australia (Nov-Jan)
2019-20 NZ tour of Australia (Dec-Jan)
2020-21 Upcoming India tour of Australia ( Nov-Dec-Jan)

Well.. that's also true. BBL doesn't get the same importance from CA, as the IPL gets from the BCCI. The revenues are not that great, and that may be the reason. As far as I know, CA get a majority of their revenue from bilateral series and other matches involving the national team. The case is different with BCCI and the IPL. But this may be changing. BBL rights got auctioned for a very high amount in 2019.
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June 08, 2020, 05:21:30 PM
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Never take Holding's wisdom seriously when he talks about any T-20 league even if he's favoring any T-20 league because he's one of the key critics of the franchise cricket and according to him BCCI and IPL ruined the world cricket.

About jones statement on WC hosting in NZ... couple of days back one kiwi (hope he's kiwi Cheesy) user stop by here and gave his opinion.

Should New Zealand throw their hat for T-20 WC hosting? Seems they already lifting all the restrictions, all they have to do is follow quarantine idea at start for all teams/staff or whatever they decides?


https://twitter.com/cricbuzz/status/1268059843375648768
New Zealand could return to normal life as early as next week

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Wellington: New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on Wednesday she could lift all social distancing measures to return the country to normal life, bar the international border closure, as early as next week.

Ardern will decide on Monday whether the country is ready to shift to alert level 1, more than two months after she imposed a strict level 4 lockdown, shutting most businesses and forcing people to stay home, in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Lol no way! We managed to get out of this thing OK. We are not risking opening our borders for a long time!  Cheesy

May get an unexpected series between AU/NZ tho!

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June 08, 2020, 06:39:18 PM
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^^^^ New Zealand is a small country of 4 million people, and I am not sure whether they can host a massive tournament which involve 16 teams. Even if they have the necessary infrastructure in place, international travel is currently not allowed in to New Zealand. The government need to give an exemption to the World Cup, and I am not sure whether they will react positively to any such request.
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^^^^ New Zealand is a small country of 4 million people, and I am not sure whether they can host a massive tournament which involve 16 teams. Even if they have the necessary infrastructure in place, international travel is currently not allowed in to New Zealand. The government need to give an exemption to the World Cup, and I am not sure whether they will react positively to any such request.
This is not easy for them even they are good and able to do this because right now in most of countires situation is not good specially in sub-continent and they will not allow peoeples to rush and creat problems for them but still wait and watch is best for all of us hopefully we will able to have some more good news from Australia as well in near future.
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@7788bitcoin according to Michael Holding who’s a former West Indies pacer, he has suggested that BCCI should be allowed to stage the IPL if ICC fails to organise the T20 World Cup. Also according to Dean Jones who’s a former Australian cricketer he has made a smart suggestion, i.e. to shift the T20 World Cup venue from Australia to New Zealand as New Zealand has almost won the battle against Covid. However at this stage we do not know whether we will be seeing IPL or we will be seeing the T20 World Cup, and till the ICC announces it’s final decision we can only continue to speculate about these events.
The picture is clear, if the ICC fails to organise the T20 World Cup but Michael Holding and many others are certain that IPL could be conducted and that in a country where the health care system is not the best and the second most populated country Roll Eyes. From the statistics they were not able to control the curve and what happens if the second and third wave hits, but some are fine with the IPL is a hypocritical view and may be because they are getting paid really well to support them.
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June 09, 2020, 01:20:46 PM
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Why not organize IPL in countries declared virus free? NZ and many smaller countries are now virus-free so the players and the required staff can be tested first and then they can organize an event away from India. It's not necessary to organize it in India when the condition is now worse and doesn't seem to improve for months. They are already incurring losses so they need to think of more alternatives. This is only if it's possible and plausible.

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June 09, 2020, 01:48:15 PM
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If we had a normal year, we would have easily known by know the champion for 2020 in IPL. But things turned out to be different for now and not even sure what is going to happen in coming time. Will we even have the IPL or will it be cancelled is still the suspense and hopefully in coming couple of months we would have certain clarity on it.

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Okay ladies & Gents, ICC meeting is happening tomorrow (10th June) so calm your titties and keep fingers crossed for any good news.  Grin

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June 09, 2020, 04:06:37 PM
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Okay ladies & Gents, ICC meeting is happening tomorrow (10th June) so calm your titties and keep fingers crossed for any good news.  Grin

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We may get an idea about the next ICC chairman during the meeting tomorrow. The front runner is obviously Colin Graves of England and Wales Cricket Board, and IMO he is the worst possible candidate for that job. He is one of those money minded individuals who will do whatever it takes to prevent the globalization of the sport. There are rumors that Sourav Ganguly (BCCI) and Ehsan Mani (PCB) may also announce their candidature. The candidate needs 8 votes to win out of 17 (12 test nations, 3 Associates, and two independent voters - Indra Nooyi & Shashank Manohar).

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June 09, 2020, 05:23:11 PM
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Why not organize IPL in countries declared virus free? NZ and many smaller countries are now virus-free so the players and the required staff can be tested first and then they can organize an event away from India. It's not necessary to organize it in India when the condition is now worse and doesn't seem to improve for months. They are already incurring losses so they need to think of more alternatives. This is only if it's possible and plausible.
If the BCCI is planning to organize IPL, first the New Zealand government needs to approve conducting a global tournament and if that is possible then they can think about conducting the T20 World Cup.

The situation with IPL is that all the players are having a contract for the year 2020 to get paid and how the contract are signed if the tournament is cancelled is not known.
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