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March 04, 2023, 06:16:22 AM |
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Virtually no issue with the demerits points but again our batters played poorly as well, which inflated the idea of a bad pitch.
The match referee before submitting the pitch report to ICC did consult with both the captains. I think to an extent the pitch has to be blamed but the Indian batters cannot hide behind this report to justify their poor performance. All previous matches the top and middle order has failed to score. This time the lower order also failed and that is the reason why India lost. Next match will be played in Ahmedabad. If India want to qualify or test world cup they need to win that match. If not then all will depend on Srilanka. Even praying is not helping Virat Kohli.
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March 04, 2023, 06:55:49 AM |
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The wins against England were commendable, but South Africa and West Indies are not exactly top notch teams, at least in test format. Yeah.. I remember about the sandpaper gate. The ones who actually did the ball tampering got away with a warning, while Smith and Warner got suspended for a year. Anyway, although Smith lost one year of quality cricket, he came back in full force during the next Ashes series. But if he manages to get a 2-2 result in BGT, it will be hailed as one of his biggest achievements. And for that, he needs to score some runs in the 4th test. Although his captaincy tactics have been commendable, his contribution with the bat hasn't lived up to the expectations.
A good win for the visitors as now they have chance to end this series at level which is not easy and here as you mentioning batting in last three test matches no batsman able to perform as expectations which is surely the biggest concern for the both teams, but bowlers are surely having impressive time specially Jadeja and Lyon both are the top with Ashwin are also in good position with 18 wickets which is also good now how fourth test pitch will work this is also big question because as I read Indore pitch having 3 demerit points which is surely not good from my side ICC needs to be fair about their policies and decisions. Smith is surely on good leading position but still have no idea how things will work for him in future as now after this BGT they are heading for the Ashes in next few months which could be also a big test for them after this BGT series matches in India.
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March 04, 2023, 08:16:40 AM |
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I don't think Australia will win the final test though since I am expecting a draw or Indian win. Let's see what happens.
The result in the fourth test cannot be said for sure, but if the Indian team can use Ravichandran Ashwin and Jadeja properly then it will be great for the Indian team. But the Indian team and the Australian team have understood very well that the venues in India depend on the spinners. Ashwin, Jadeja, Lyon, Trodd Murphy, Kuhnemann these five spinners have performed brilliantly in the first, second and third Tests. So the fourth match will depend on these five bowlers. The team that performs best will win the fourth test. But the chances of a draw are very low.
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March 04, 2023, 09:40:56 AM |
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I don't think Australia will win the final test though since I am expecting a draw or Indian win. Let's see what happens.
The result in the fourth test cannot be said for sure, but if the Indian team can use Ravichandran Ashwin and Jadeja properly then it will be great for the Indian team. But the Indian team and the Australian team have understood very well that the venues in India depend on the spinners. Ashwin, Jadeja, Lyon, Trodd Murphy, Kuhnemann these five spinners have performed brilliantly in the first, second and third Tests. So the fourth match will depend on these five bowlers. The team that performs best will win the fourth test. But the chances of a draw are very low. Very difficult for Australia to win the last test , India after last test match will definitely come back stronger and will not repeat their mistake specially batting wise they'll try to make a good score .
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March 04, 2023, 11:49:31 AM |
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Australia took the early advantage in this test match against India. And that's what enabled them to win this match. It is going to be interesting to see if Australia is actually able to win the last test match. Because that is going to level the series.
India is surely determined to try to win the test match or at least stay on the safe side and go out with a draw. Because even a draw is sufficient to ensure that they are winning the test series. So it is going to be hard for Australia to win. Because it is very possible that India is destined to be on the defensive from the very start.
There was no advantage for the Australia in this pitch, but Indian batting is surely now biggest concern two innings and just 272 runs are surely not ideal situation while India is playing at home, and they have score board like this needs some good decisions for the improvement of the batting and having good test playing batsmen as well for the long run in this format. I have feeling most chances this series is going to be ended with the score of 3 - 1 but still this is good win for the Australia as they were consistently doing good in spin department and this works for them with Indian batting in presence of Rohit, Kohli and Pujara badly down and out of the way which is surely now looking for some aggressive decisions from the selectors for having improvement in this all.
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March 04, 2023, 02:19:56 PM |
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If Australia's top or middle order doesn't perform well, it's most probably game-over for them in my opinion.
Don't forget our own top-middle order lol They are not in good nick either. Rohit only played 1 match winning knock, Gill is a replacement but he needs to grab an opportunity with both hands. Pujara looked way too good in the last inning but he needs to repeat this in the next match. Kohli is just making Pikachu face, every time he gets out. Iyer also needs to take responsibility. The Indore pitch got 3 demerit points from ICC and was stated of poor quality which did not offer a good competition between bat and bowl. I think it's pretty much correct considering how short the match lasted it was too skewed for spinners ball not coming on the bat at all. I don't mind pitches favouring spinners or pacers but matches should alteast last till 4th day always on international level. That's the whole point of a test match. Pitch is first two matches was still fine as some or the other team managed to bat for some time atleast but this time both teams struggled badly. The third Test match between India and Australia has already been won by Australia.However, in this match both the teams were in extreme batting disaster.Neither of them batted well which resulted in them being bowled out for very few runs.Australia scored 197 runs for 10 wickets in the first innings. On the other hand, India were all out for 109 runs in the first innings.
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March 04, 2023, 02:53:35 PM |
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Don't forget our own top-middle order lol
They are not in good nick either. Rohit only played 1 match winning knock, Gill is a replacement but he needs to grab an opportunity with both hands. Pujara looked way too good in the last inning but he needs to repeat this in the next match. Kohli is just making Pikachu face, every time he gets out. Iyer also needs to take responsibility.
Lol. Virat's Pikachu face had me in splits. I actually checked his pikachu expressions in google and laughed a lot. Anyway, coming back to the topic, India does have consistent all-rounders like Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar in case their top and middle order fails. This is why this is a major weakness of Australia(Not India).
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March 04, 2023, 06:22:44 PM |
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Don't forget our own top-middle order lol They are not in good nick either. Rohit only played 1 match winning knock, Gill is a replacement but he needs to grab an opportunity with both hands. Pujara looked way too good in the last inning but he needs to repeat this in the next match. Kohli is just making Pikachu face, every time he gets out. Iyer also needs to take responsibility.
Lol. Virat's Pikachu face had me in splits. I actually checked his pikachu expressions in google and laughed a lot. Anyway, coming back to the topic, India does have consistent all-rounders like Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar in case their top and middle order fails. This is why this is a major weakness of Australia(Not India). Australia should be very careful. Because the last test match is going to be the decider. So Australia will have to be very careful. They have to be very cautious about their approach in the last test match. I personally do not think Australia has a better pool of all-rounders compared to India. But Australia has a proper batsman and bowler. I think the last test match is going to be very competitive between both of them. Of course, India is going to be on the defense and trying to at least draw the match if not win.
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March 04, 2023, 07:04:05 PM |
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Don't forget our own top-middle order lol
They are not in good nick either. Rohit only played 1 match winning knock, Gill is a replacement but he needs to grab an opportunity with both hands. Pujara looked way too good in the last inning but he needs to repeat this in the next match. Kohli is just making Pikachu face, every time he gets out. Iyer also needs to take responsibility.
The Indore pitch got 3 demerit points from ICC and was stated of poor quality which did not offer a good competition between bat and bowl. I think it's pretty much correct considering how short the match lasted it was too skewed for spinners ball not coming on the bat at all. I don't mind pitches favouring spinners or pacers but matches should alteast last till 4th day always on international level. That's the whole point of a test match. Pitch is first two matches was still fine as some or the other team managed to bat for some time atleast but this time both teams struggled badly. I guess it serves them well after botching the venue of Dharamshala and airdropping Indore into the mix out of nowhere. It showed how casual they were with their preparation despite knowing that the BGT series is a very prestige and money making affair. Virtually no issue with the demerits points but again our batters played poorly as well, which inflated the idea of a bad pitch. I think in a 4 match series you should atleast make sure you make a couple of pitches good for batting and couple of pitches good for bowling. Making all 4 pitches in the same pattern as favouring spinners looks itself a bizzare idea to me. I know batters played poorly to some extent but if you see ball was coming too low at often times and overturning as well at a few scenarios any good batsmen can fail to play such things.
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March 05, 2023, 12:05:22 AM |
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~ I know batters played poorly to some extent but if you see ball was coming too low at often times and overturning as well at a few scenarios any good batsmen can fail to play such things.
The pitches were terrible and the ball was keeping really low, some of the dismissals were because the players were not having solid defense. Rohit Sharma was stumped in the first innings, Pujara was out trying to play an extravagant cut as soon as he reached the crease which was a terrible shot and Shubman Gill was dismissed in the second innings charging down the track where he completely lost the line of the ball and gifted his wicket. Shreyas Iyer needs rest as they need to give some youngsters a chance.
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March 05, 2023, 05:13:58 AM |
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~ I know batters played poorly to some extent but if you see ball was coming too low at often times and overturning as well at a few scenarios any good batsmen can fail to play such things.
The pitches were terrible and the ball was keeping really low, some of the dismissals were because the players were not having solid defense. Rohit Sharma was stumped in the first innings, Pujara was out trying to play an extravagant cut as soon as he reached the crease which was a terrible shot and Shubman Gill was dismissed in the second innings charging down the track where he completely lost the line of the ball and gifted his wicket. Shreyas Iyer needs rest as they need to give some youngsters a chance. Such a disaster on one's home ground is somewhat worrying. But it is very clear that the pitch condition does not work in favor of the batsmen. Australian team also don't got too many runs either. However, Indian Test captain Rohit Sharma feels that the Indian batsmen should have done better. However, the lack of consistent performance of some players is the big reason for the defeat in the first Test. In the first innings Pujara, Ravindra Jadeja, Shreyas Iyer and Ashwin no one could do well. Again in the second innings a batting disaster of Shubman Gill, Ravindra Jadeja and Srikar Bharat failed to add more runs to the team's total score.
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March 05, 2023, 07:06:53 AM |
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Lol. Virat's Pikachu face had me in splits. I actually checked his pikachu expressions in google and laughed a lot. For some reason, he really thinks that he can't get out hence Pikachu face every time lol I guess it serves them well after botching the venue of Dharamshala and airdropping Indore into the mix out of nowhere. It showed how casual they were with their preparation despite knowing that the BGT series is a very prestige and money making affair.
Virtually no issue with the demerits points but again our batters played poorly as well, which inflated the idea of a bad pitch.
I think in a 4 match series you should atleast make sure you make a couple of pitches good for batting and couple of pitches good for bowling. Making all 4 pitches in the same pattern as favouring spinners looks itself a bizzare idea to me. I know batters played poorly to some extent but if you see ball was coming too low at often times and overturning as well at a few scenarios any good batsmen can fail to play such things. TBH not in favor of batting pitches where batters are stat padding all day long. For this, we have white ball cricket and red ball conditions should favor the bowlers and batters need to grind. May be 60-40 chances to Ball and Bat.
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March 05, 2023, 07:20:07 AM |
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Such a disaster on one's home ground is somewhat worrying. But it is very clear that the pitch condition does not work in favor of the batsmen. Australian team also don't got too many runs either. However, Indian Test captain Rohit Sharma feels that the Indian batsmen should have done better. However, the lack of consistent performance of some players is the big reason for the defeat in the first Test. In the first innings Pujara, Ravindra Jadeja, Shreyas Iyer and Ashwin no one could do well. Again in the second innings a batting disaster of Shubman Gill, Ravindra Jadeja and Srikar Bharat failed to add more runs to the team's total score.
India has won first two matches and so far the pitches are extremely tilted towards bowlers. The Third test almost took 2 days to finish while first 2 also were completed in 3 days only. Wickets falling all around. Hopefully we will see same action in forth and final test also. I wrote this after Australia lost first test match and this myth has once again proved to be true. Australia will not be able to win this series but can they be able to draw this series? Edit: I read this interesting fact on ABC sports Facebook page and thought it's worth sharing "The bad news continues, as Australia have never won a series after losing the first Test in anything other than five-Test series."
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I wrote this after Australia lost first test match and this myth has once again proved to be true. Australia will not be able to win this series but can they be able to draw this series?
The possibility of a draw is highly unlikely! India will win the next test match in Ahmedabad as they have hardly lost any test series in Indian for sometime now. Indore pitch was bad but Indian batters cannot hide behind it. I am pretty confident that the Indian batters like Rohit, Shubhman, Jadeja and Iyer will play sensible cricket in the next match. The bowling has been great so far. Umesh Yadav was able to take three wickets on a pitch that was helping spinners. So bowling is not a concer but batting is a big concern for now.
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March 05, 2023, 08:46:50 AM |
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I wrote this after Australia lost first test match and this myth has once again proved to be true. Australia will not be able to win this series but can they be able to draw this series?
The possibility of a draw is highly unlikely! India will win the next test match in Ahmedabad as they have hardly lost any test series in Indian for sometime now. Indore pitch was bad but Indian batters cannot hide behind it. I am pretty confident that the Indian batters like Rohit, Shubhman, Jadeja and Iyer will play sensible cricket in the next match. The bowling has been great so far. Umesh Yadav was able to take three wickets on a pitch that was helping spinners. So bowling is not a concer but batting is a big concern for now. Whoever will win or loose last match is going to be s tough and interesting one as both teams have to win the test match to gain points . India have higher chances of winning obviously as they have lost previous one and they will come back stronger and well prepared .
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March 05, 2023, 10:35:11 AM |
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The pitches were terrible and the ball was keeping really low, some of the dismissals were because the players were not having solid defense. Rohit Sharma was stumped in the first innings, Pujara was out trying to play an extravagant cut as soon as he reached the crease which was a terrible shot and Shubman Gill was dismissed in the second innings charging down the track where he completely lost the line of the ball and gifted his wicket. Shreyas Iyer needs rest as they need to give some youngsters a chance.
Right now, Indian selectors are working on new generation of batsmen which is never been easy to have their spots with veteran batsmen Rohit Sharma, Pujara and Kohli all are fail to deliver as well which is also concern so with this all playing against team like Australia has never been easy even they won first two test matches but keep one thing in mind Australians are quickest those learn from their mistakes and settled things quickly so this happening in this series as well and their spinners are also working on as their plan which is also good advantage for them. Now fourth test match is going to be interesting because after winning third test match at Indore Australians will try their best to level this series evens they will lose BGT but still this could be one of the best result for them in current conditions, and they can take good physiological advantage from India as well for the next series.
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March 05, 2023, 03:48:31 PM |
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The pitches were terrible and the ball was keeping really low, some of the dismissals were because the players were not having solid defense. Rohit Sharma was stumped in the first innings, Pujara was out trying to play an extravagant cut as soon as he reached the crease which was a terrible shot and Shubman Gill was dismissed in the second innings charging down the track where he completely lost the line of the ball and gifted his wicket. Shreyas Iyer needs rest as they need to give some youngsters a chance.
Right now, Indian selectors are working on new generation of batsmen which is never been easy to have their spots with veteran batsmen Rohit Sharma, Pujara and Kohli all are fail to deliver as well which is also concern so with this all playing against team like Australia has never been easy even they won first two test matches but keep one thing in mind Australians are quickest those learn from their mistakes and settled things quickly so this happening in this series as well and their spinners are also working on as their plan which is also good advantage for them. Now fourth test match is going to be interesting because after winning third test match at Indore Australians will try their best to level this series evens they will lose BGT but still this could be one of the best result for them in current conditions, and they can take good physiological advantage from India as well for the next series. In the 4th test match, Australia is going to have to play attacking cricket from the start. Because India is going to try and play a little defensively. India already has a lead in the series. So if India can only draw this test match India will be the series winner. Australia will have to try extra hard. India had a collapse in the first innings of the last match. And that was very beneficial for Australia. So India is going to be careful about that in the next match as well. Australia will have to have a good performance overall to win this match. Otherwise, I think this match is going to end up in a draw.
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It is not about the pitch. Just think of the performance coming from the Indian batters. Whatever the demerits, the home players should've the better understanding and perform well. Here everything took place in the opposite way with Australia playing well against the home team.
The pitch was too dry that the spin bowlers got advantages in it. You shouldn't blame Indian players for this. Australia was lucky as India had decided to bat first after winning the toss. Australia would have struggled in the same way if they batted first. Dharamshala was the venue for the 3rd test match, BCCI had changed the venue as the outfield of Dharamshala wasn't suitable for the match. But the pitch condition was pathetic at Indore venue. Pitch plays an important role in test cricket, you can't ignore it just like this.
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March 05, 2023, 07:55:16 PM Last edit: March 05, 2023, 08:06:15 PM by eaLiTy |
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~ Now fourth test match is going to be interesting because after winning third test match at Indore Australians will try their best to level this series evens they will lose BGT but still this could be one of the best result for them in current conditions, and they can take good physiological advantage from India as well for the next series. The only change Australia made after devastating losses in the first two matches is to make Steve Smith the captain and that changed the results and hopefully they will stick to Steve Smith rather than punishing him for the antics he did a few years back citing moral values. Australia needs an aggressive captain and Steve Smith fits the bill and the way in which he exploited a loophole in the DRS is just incredible and now the 4th Test became interesting when everyone predicted an Australian white wash after seeing the first two matches, which is incredible.
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March 05, 2023, 09:31:37 PM |
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~ Now fourth test match is going to be interesting because after winning third test match at Indore Australians will try their best to level this series evens they will lose BGT but still this could be one of the best result for them in current conditions, and they can take good physiological advantage from India as well for the next series. The only change Australia made after devastating losses in the first two matches is to make Steve Smith the captain and that changed the results and hopefully they will stick to Steve Smith rather than punishing him for the antics he did a few years back citing moral values. Australia needs an aggressive captain and Steve Smith fits the bill and the way in which he exploited a loophole in the DRS is just incredible and now the 4th Test became interesting when everyone predicted an Australian white wash after seeing the first two matches, which is incredible. Just saw a tweet from someone that sources claim 4th track is going to be a normal usual test wicket. Nothing like the previous 3 low bounce spin wickets. This seems interesting as now India might decide to play only with Ashwin and Jadeja and keep an extra paces instead of Axar but obviously that will hurt the batting to some extent but obviously Axar's main task isn't the batting. I am expecting Ishan Kishan to play the match instead of Bharat this time because Bharath hasn't so far proven anything and obviously Kishan might not get another chance for a long time after this. So technically makes sense as well. Other than this I hardly expect any change.
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