2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Vaculin]

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Nice suggestion, he will win but once he get caught, Dioceldo S. Sy will go straight up to the jail, PBA will not spare him anymore as that is a serious violating. That's what you called rigging sports and PBA is against that and made an announcement publicly, so maybe the players could also bet against themselves. lol.

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[chaser15]

Blackwater Elite trading Bobby Ray Parks Jr. is a good decision for me to make room for a large-cap. Blackwater can't afford to offer another big salary that might help Ray Parks Jr. building the team. So they will use it to either catch another superstar or relies on some role players and gambles for it. The problem here is the player why the team is not improving. And now that they have a large-cap space, they can market again some role players.

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Worst comment so far here lol.

It won't happened. It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

[freedomgo]

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Worst comment so far here lol.

It won't happened. It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

This is possible mate, he knows the team very well, so he can bet against his own team. It's illegal, we all know that but there are owners who are selling their team to loss to syndicate, haven't heard a news about that, it's just rumors but I believe on it.

It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

Only when they get caught.  

[jademaxsuy]

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Worst comment so far here lol.

It won't happened. It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

This is possible mate, he knows the team very well, so he can bet against his own team. It's illegal, we all know that but there are owners who are selling their team to loss to syndicate, haven't heard a news about that, it's just rumors but I believe on it.

It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

Only when they get caught.  

The question is why they let trading happen when they got good players? In the end it is still like damaging the black water company having an asset but allows it to trade to strong team. The team is just like a farm team for strong players for strong team. Pretty sure they cannot get a championship in the league for it is not their mindset to win but the team mindset is to lose. Higher chances they will bet on the other teams just for profit and really planning to get a championship.

[bisdak40]

The question is why they let trading happen when they got good players? In the end it is still like damaging the black water company having an asset but allows it to trade to strong team. The team is just like a farm team for strong players for strong team. Pretty sure they cannot get a championship in the league for it is not their mindset to win but the team mindset is to lose. Higher chances they will bet on the other teams just for profit and really planning to get a championship.

PBA is business and some teams are just there for some reason and not to really compete in the league. Blackwater is more of a farm team to MVP group of companies. Why the hell trade the likes of Erram and Parks if they really want to build a strong team in the future. If PBA wants to get their fans back, maybe they could make a rule prohibiting to trade a players from the draft for five years.

[Russlenat]

The question is why they let trading happen when they got good players? In the end it is still like damaging the black water company having an asset but allows it to trade to strong team. The team is just like a farm team for strong players for strong team. Pretty sure they cannot get a championship in the league for it is not their mindset to win but the team mindset is to lose. Higher chances they will bet on the other teams just for profit and really planning to get a championship.

PBA is business and some teams are just there for some reason and not to really compete in the league. Blackwater is more of a farm team to MVP group of companies. Why the hell trade the likes of Erram and Parks if they really want to build a strong team in the future. If PBA wants to get their fans back, maybe they could make a rule prohibiting to trade a players from the draft for five years.

I like that idea, this team will surely improve as they will get the best players in the draft.

You are right also that they become a farm for the TNT, damn, if they only get Erram and Parks, I think in the All Filipino cup, they can compete well too.

The team needs a local players that could step up, they trade a lot of good players already, but they are not getting good players in return, I don't know what they are thinking, it looks like they want to be the top team in the race for the worst team in the league.

[LogitechMouse]

The question is why they let trading happen when they got good players? In the end it is still like damaging the black water company having an asset but allows it to trade to strong team. The team is just like a farm team for strong players for strong team. Pretty sure they cannot get a championship in the league for it is not their mindset to win but the team mindset is to lose. Higher chances they will bet on the other teams just for profit and really planning to get a championship.

PBA is business and some teams are just there for some reason and not to really compete in the league. Blackwater is more of a farm team to MVP group of companies. Why the hell trade the likes of Erram and Parks if they really want to build a strong team in the future. If PBA wants to get their fans back, maybe they could make a rule prohibiting to trade a players from the draft for five years.

Business over competition. That is how PBA works right now.

I still remember the times when the Commissioner is very different and the level of competition at that time is at its highest level. If I'm not mistaken it is around 2010-2012 (correct me if I'm wrong) but at these years, the stadium is always full even though it isn't playoffs and the Champions at the conferences every year are always different unlike today where it is always SMB, GSM, TNT.

I totally agree with what you said too that Blackwater became a farming team when they are in the PBA. Their trades are totally not in their favor. They will trade a star player with other players which isn't equal to the player they will trade but anyway, that is business. That is also the reason why I don't watch anymore during eliminations and I only watch on playoffs (Semis and Finals in specific).

[Japinat]

The question is why they let trading happen when they got good players? In the end it is still like damaging the black water company having an asset but allows it to trade to strong team. The team is just like a farm team for strong players for strong team. Pretty sure they cannot get a championship in the league for it is not their mindset to win but the team mindset is to lose. Higher chances they will bet on the other teams just for profit and really planning to get a championship.

PBA is business and some teams are just there for some reason and not to really compete in the league. Blackwater is more of a farm team to MVP group of companies. Why the hell trade the likes of Erram and Parks if they really want to build a strong team in the future. If PBA wants to get their fans back, maybe they could make a rule prohibiting to trade a players from the draft for five years.

Business over competition. That is how PBA works right now.

I still remember the times when the Commissioner is very different and the level of competition at that time is at its highest level. If I'm not mistaken it is around 2010-2012 (correct me if I'm wrong) but at these years, the stadium is always full even though it isn't playoffs and the Champions at the conferences every year are always different unlike today where it is always SMB, GSM, TNT.

Alaska and Magnolia is also a good team, they also have a lot of fans I guess, especially with Magnolia or San Mig coffee when James was still big game james in the team. I never watch the game live but I can see it on live TV that arena is full to witness games especially on big games.

If I am not mistaken, I think SMB and GSM has the biggest number of fans this days.

I totally agree with what you said too that Blackwater became a farming team when they are in the PBA. Their trades are totally not in their favor. They will trade a star player with other players which isn't equal to the player they will trade but anyway, that is business. That is also the reason why I don't watch anymore during eliminations and I only watch on playoffs (Semis and Finals in specific).

Blackwater and Columbian team are the worst team in the PBA I guess, but when Perez was drafted, the team gets better.

[atamism]

The question is why they let trading happen when they got good players? In the end it is still like damaging the black water company having an asset but allows it to trade to strong team. The team is just like a farm team for strong players for strong team. Pretty sure they cannot get a championship in the league for it is not their mindset to win but the team mindset is to lose. Higher chances they will bet on the other teams just for profit and really planning to get a championship.

PBA is business and some teams are just there for some reason and not to really compete in the league. Blackwater is more of a farm team to MVP group of companies. Why the hell trade the likes of Erram and Parks if they really want to build a strong team in the future. If PBA wants to get their fans back, maybe they could make a rule prohibiting to trade a players from the draft for five years.

Business over competition. That is how PBA works right now.

I still remember the times when the Commissioner is very different and the level of competition at that time is at its highest level. If I'm not mistaken it is around 2010-2012 (correct me if I'm wrong) but at these years, the stadium is always full even though it isn't playoffs and the Champions at the conferences every year are always different unlike today where it is always SMB, GSM, TNT.

Alaska and Magnolia is also a good team, they also have a lot of fans I guess, especially with Magnolia or San Mig coffee when James was still big game james in the team. I never watch the game live but I can see it on live TV that arena is full to witness games especially on big games.

If I am not mistaken, I think SMB and GSM has the biggest number of fans this days.

I totally agree with what you said too that Blackwater became a farming team when they are in the PBA. Their trades are totally not in their favor. They will trade a star player with other players which isn't equal to the player they will trade but anyway, that is business. That is also the reason why I don't watch anymore during eliminations and I only watch on playoffs (Semis and Finals in specific).

Blackwater and Columbian team are the worst team in the PBA I guess, but when Perez was drafted, the team gets better.

CJ Perez is the real deal back when he was in college, he's the prodigy and potential player back to the days. Perez shows great this in his freshmen days. He hailed as the rookie of the year. Maybe CJ Perez deserve a better team so he will gain more knowledge about game play tho his game time in his current team is really good and the way they play the game. I just feel sorry for him. He deserve a champion ships. His skill and ability is superb.

[Russlenat]

CJ Perez is the real deal back when he was in college, he's the prodigy and potential player back to the days. Perez shows great this in his freshmen days. He hailed as the rookie of the year.

He is a special player in short, some players are good in college but does not step up in PBA, Perez is indeed a real deal that's why I'm lovin his team now though before this team was a shitty team.

Maybe CJ Perez deserve a better team so he will gain more knowledge about game play tho his game time in his current team is really good and the way they play the game. I just feel sorry for him. He deserve a champion ships. His skill and ability is superb.

You are recommending for the DYIP to be a worst team like the BlackWater, I think what we like to achieved is the balance so teams in the PBA will be competitive and not only dominated by the SMB and Pangilian group of companies.

[Vaculin]

Fresh update from the PBA. Just like the NBA, they will be playing with no fans when they resume.

Fans won't be allowed in PBA games until vaccine is developed

PROFESSIONAL sports in the Philippines will be played without a live audience until a vaccine for the coronavirus has been developed.

That was explicitly stated in the Joint Administrative Order (JAO) drafted by the Department of Health, Games and Amusements Board, and the Philippine Sports Commission that was released this week.

Under the JAO, professional basketball leagues such as the PBA as well as other sports may be held in areas under MGCQ under strict health protocols, but without any fans in the venue.

[LogitechMouse]

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Lols . Do you think that people will not see that thing if the team will do it. This will not happen and for sure the competition of the league will be more damaged. It has already damaged and then they will do it again by doing this thing?? I don't think that they will let the team do this.

I totally agree with what you said too that Blackwater became a farming team when they are in the PBA. Their trades are totally not in their favor. They will trade a star player with other players which isn't equal to the player they will trade but anyway, that is business. That is also the reason why I don't watch anymore during eliminations and I only watch on playoffs (Semis and Finals in specific).

Blackwater and Columbian team are the worst team in the PBA I guess, but when Perez was drafted, the team gets better.

Columbian (now Terra Firma Dyip) has improvement when they got Perez in the draft but still they are not enough to clinch to the playoffs even the 8th spot only. They need another star player that will help him. Right now the roster of the team can't compete against some teams like MAG or SMB.

Fortunately they got Roosevelt Adams but still can't play until 2023 but for sure lots of improvement will happen to him in that span of 3 years and he will be better when he comes to the PBA.

[Russlenat]

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Lols . Do you think that people will not see that thing if the team will do it. This will not happen and for sure the competition of the league will be more damaged. It has already damaged and then they will do it again by doing this thing?? I don't think that they will let the team do this.

I totally agree with what you said too that Blackwater became a farming team when they are in the PBA. Their trades are totally not in their favor. They will trade a star player with other players which isn't equal to the player they will trade but anyway, that is business. That is also the reason why I don't watch anymore during eliminations and I only watch on playoffs (Semis and Finals in specific).

Blackwater and Columbian team are the worst team in the PBA I guess, but when Perez was drafted, the team gets better.

Columbian (now Terra Firma Dyip) has improvement when they got Perez in the draft but still they are not enough to clinch to the playoffs even the 8th spot only. They need another star player that will help him. Right now the roster of the team can't compete against some teams like MAG or SMB.

Yes, that's really the sad reality, we like Perez to grow but he is playing in a shitty team now, hopefully he will either transfer if they can't get someone to help him so he can be a help for the other team which has a title shot like the Magnolia and the Alaska who are struggling now.

Fortunately they got Roosevelt Adams but still can't play until 2023 but for sure lots of improvement will happen to him in that span of 3 years and he will be better when he comes to the PBA.

That's too long to wait, we don't know what would happen 3 years from now, you know, injuries and unexpected trade, it could possibly happen.

[bisdak40]

Fortunately they got Roosevelt Adams but still can't play until 2023 but for sure lots of improvement will happen to him in that span of 3 years and he will be better when he comes to the PBA.

That's too long to wait, we don't know what would happen 3 years from now, you know, injuries and unexpected trade, it could possibly happen.

Roosevelt Adams could play in the PBA once the league resumes it's game because he is not part of the special draft. Maybe you mean Isaac Go who got picked by Columbian Dyip in the special draft that need three years to serve in the Nationals before he can play for his mother team in the PBA but it depends if Gilas still needs him, if not then he can play in the PBA even if he have not serve three years in the national team.

Adams and Perez tandem is interesting to watch and that is also what i am longing for. For sure the Dyip will improve next season with Adams on board.

[Japinat]

Fortunately they got Roosevelt Adams but still can't play until 2023 but for sure lots of improvement will happen to him in that span of 3 years and he will be better when he comes to the PBA.

That's too long to wait, we don't know what would happen 3 years from now, you know, injuries and unexpected trade, it could possibly happen.

Roosevelt Adams could play in the PBA once the league resumes it's game because he is not part of the special draft. Maybe you mean Isaac Go who got picked by Columbian Dyip in the special draft that need three years to serve in the Nationals before he can play for his mother team in the PBA but it depends if Gilas still needs him, if not then he can play in the PBA even if he have not serve three years in the national team.

Adams and Perez tandem is interesting to watch and that is also what i am longing for. For sure the Dyip will improve next season with Adams on board.

That remains to be seen though, Perez is proven a valuable player, but added with another great player, I guess they need a good teamwork, just like the Terrence Romeo and Stanley Pringle in Northport back then, they were ineffective together.

[Fredomago]

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That remains to be seen though, Perez is proven a valuable player, but added with another great player, I guess they need a good teamwork, just like the Terrence Romeo and Stanley Pringle in Northport back then, they were ineffective together.

Terrence and Stanley tandem didn't materialized due to the fact that they're not being back up that much, though they still getting good spots and trying to be present in each playoffs but without the effort from the managements they're still nothing compared to all star cast opponents.  Moving back to Adam and Perez we have to see first the chemistry and the impact that they'll going to bring to the team and start discussing about them.

[ultrloa]

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That remains to be seen though, Perez is proven a valuable player, but added with another great player, I guess they need a good teamwork, just like the Terrence Romeo and Stanley Pringle in Northport back then, they were ineffective together.

Terrence and Stanley tandem didn't materialized due to the fact that they're not being back up that much, though they still getting good spots and trying to be present in each playoffs but without the effort from the managements they're still nothing compared to all star cast opponents.  Moving back to Adam and Perez we have to see first the chemistry and the impact that they'll going to bring to the team and start discussing about them.

It's no use talking about them while we don't see them in action but what is interesting here is might they will have a great chemistry together its just how the coaching staff maximize them and show their potential since if they are just their and not been backed up nicely for sure they will be the same to the other big star tandem who flop since they compete to get more basket than cooperating to each other.

[bisdak40]

Fortunately they got Roosevelt Adams but still can't play until 2023 but for sure lots of improvement will happen to him in that span of 3 years and he will be better when he comes to the PBA.

That's too long to wait, we don't know what would happen 3 years from now, you know, injuries and unexpected trade, it could possibly happen.

Roosevelt Adams could play in the PBA once the league resumes it's game because he is not part of the special draft. Maybe you mean Isaac Go who got picked by Columbian Dyip in the special draft that need three years to serve in the Nationals before he can play for his mother team in the PBA but it depends if Gilas still needs him, if not then he can play in the PBA even if he have not serve three years in the national team.

Adams and Perez tandem is interesting to watch and that is also what i am longing for. For sure the Dyip will improve next season with Adams on board.

That remains to be seen though, Perez is proven a valuable player, but added with another great player, I guess they need a good teamwork, just like the Terrence Romeo and Stanley Pringle in Northport back then, they were ineffective together.

Yup, the tandem of Perez and Adams is not tested yet but i have read articles saying that those guys have great chemistry during practice, hope that it could be the same during actual games.

Romeo and Pringle tandem failed because the former have attitude problem i think. TR7 back then is not a willing passer, he always intend to score while having the ball not minding his team mates.

[Russlenat]

It's no use talking about them while we don't see them in action but what is interesting here is might they will have a great chemistry together its just how the coaching staff maximize them and show their potential since if they are just their and not been backed up nicely for sure they will be the same to the other big star tandem who flop since they compete to get more basket than cooperating to each other.

If they give both a chance to shine, it's not impossible for them to create a good chemistry, the team needs to improve to earn respect from other teams. All see are just popular teams playing in the Finals, maybe we need some surprises but my guess DYIP needs more time to improve and build that chemistry, even they have good young players but experience is really different and popular teams such as SMB, TNT, and GSM have that.

[Torbeks]

I believe we have a lot of gamblers in the forum who loves Philippines Basketball particularly PBA, that's why I'm bringing this outside the local.

Let's discuss the current events, news, and the games here. You may also share you bets here if you want to help fellow gamblers to win or ask some opinion from our fellow gamblers here.

The PBA has a short conference only but they also have short break, so if we are betting often in this games, we can easily familiarize the teams since there are only few teams compared to the NBA.

Hopefully we can make a good and helpful discussion in this thread.

Its good to allow betting in PBA in that case other people will be interested to watch because these day PBA they just watch their favourite teams and if the betting will be international its good and other poeple will have interest to watch other teams