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March 11, 2021, 11:32:21 AM
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Kiefer could possibly leave the PBA.

Guiao confirms Kiefer weighing 'really good offer' from Japan team

For me this is good so the PBA will wake up that they are not offering a competitive salary, if all our good players will play abroad then PBA would become boring, Kiefer should go for the benefit of the league.  Cheesy
This is also good for the other aspiring new PBA players, if someone like Kiefer will come out and will take offers abroad, this will open opportunity for the other players that are waiting to be drafted.

For me, the only downside here is the quality of PBA will decline because the best players are getting good offers abroad and for the sake of money they'll grab it. Let's take it for example, JMF, if he gets an equivalent of at least 1 million pesos monthly salary playing abroad, I think he will grab it if he choose money over the love of the league, these are just possibilities so it could happen.

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March 11, 2021, 11:44:33 AM
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Kiefer could possibly leave the PBA.

Guiao confirms Kiefer weighing 'really good offer' from Japan team

For me this is good so the PBA will wake up that they are not offering a competitive salary, if all our good players will play abroad then PBA would become boring, Kiefer should go for the benefit of the league.  Cheesy
This is also good for the other aspiring new PBA players, if someone like Kiefer will come out and will take offers abroad, this will open opportunity for the other players that are waiting to be drafted.

For me, the only downside here is the quality of PBA will decline because the best players are getting good offers abroad and for the sake of money they'll grab it. Let's take it for example, JMF, if he gets an equivalent of at least 1 million pesos monthly salary playing abroad, I think he will grab it if he choose money over the love of the league, these are just possibilities so it could happen.

Good point mate.

PBA will be drained of high-quality players if this situation won't be addressed. We just know for sure what's the agreement between Keifer and that Japan team on the number of years/months that he will play for them but if it's long-term then I think some players would follow Keifer.

But on the bright side, I think it could also open opportunities to some players to play in the PBA to fill the spot left by players leaving.

Let's see how the commissioner's office would react to this situation.
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March 11, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
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Kiefer could possibly leave the PBA.

Guiao confirms Kiefer weighing 'really good offer' from Japan team

For me this is good so the PBA will wake up that they are not offering a competitive salary, if all our good players will play abroad then PBA would become boring, Kiefer should go for the benefit of the league.  Cheesy
This is also good for the other aspiring new PBA players, if someone like Kiefer will come out and will take offers abroad, this will open opportunity for the other players that are waiting to be drafted.

For me, the only downside here is the quality of PBA will decline because the best players are getting good offers abroad and for the sake of money they'll grab it. Let's take it for example, JMF, if he gets an equivalent of at least 1 million pesos monthly salary playing abroad, I think he will grab it if he choose money over the love of the league, these are just possibilities so it could happen.
It's not only about the offer but also the exposure that they'll get. They might get better offers after they take those opportunities from different countries that are also scouting good players. They use that opportunity to get a better offer that they can work on which is what most of the PBA players are dreaming of. Not just also about the high salary but the benefits for sure are better than what PBA can offer.

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March 11, 2021, 12:09:15 PM
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Kiefer could possibly leave the PBA.

Guiao confirms Kiefer weighing 'really good offer' from Japan team

For me this is good so the PBA will wake up that they are not offering a competitive salary, if all our good players will play abroad then PBA would become boring, Kiefer should go for the benefit of the league.  Cheesy
This is also good for the other aspiring new PBA players, if someone like Kiefer will come out and will take offers abroad, this will open opportunity for the other players that are waiting to be drafted.

For me, the only downside here is the quality of PBA will decline because the best players are getting good offers abroad and for the sake of money they'll grab it. Let's take it for example, JMF, if he gets an equivalent of at least 1 million pesos monthly salary playing abroad, I think he will grab it if he choose money over the love of the league, these are just possibilities so it could happen.

Good point mate.

PBA will be drained of high-quality players if this situation won't be addressed. We just know for sure what's the agreement between Keifer and that Japan team on the number of years/months that he will play for them but if it's long-term then I think some players would follow Keifer.

But on the bright side, I think it could also open opportunities to some players to play in the PBA to fill the spot left by players leaving.

Let's see how the commissioner's office would react to this situation.

The only way to address this is to increase the salary of the PBA players especially the superstars. At the end of the day, it's just like an "employer/employee" relationship and if an employee is looking for a greener pasture, the employer can't stop him for trying to improve his lifer for a better opportunity.

This also tells us that the brand of basketball in the Philippines have already grown, we are now a world class.

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March 11, 2021, 02:34:40 PM
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Hopefully Don Trollano's career will be better under his original mentor.
NLEX needed a guy who work on both offense and defense with hard work, this is a great acquisition by the NLEX as they lack on defense.

Trollano embraces chance to work anew with primary mentor Guiao
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VETERAN guard Don Trollano feels like he’s starting all over again after being reunited with the mentor who gave him his break in the PBA.

The 29-year-old wingman welcomes his get-together with coach Yeng Guiao after being acquired by NLEX in a complex, three-team trade approved by the league on Thursday.

Trollano has improved tremendously through his first five seasons as a pro since being picked in the second round (No. 15 overall) by Rain or Shine in the 2015 draft.
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March 11, 2021, 02:45:24 PM
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Hopefully Don Trollano's career will be better under his original mentor.
NLEX needed a guy who work on both offense and defense with hard work, this is a great acquisition by the NLEX as they lack on defense.

Trollano embraces chance to work anew with primary mentor Guiao
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VETERAN guard Don Trollano feels like he’s starting all over again after being reunited with the mentor who gave him his break in the PBA.

The 29-year-old wingman welcomes his get-together with coach Yeng Guiao after being acquired by NLEX in a complex, three-team trade approved by the league on Thursday.

Trollano has improved tremendously through his first five seasons as a pro since being picked in the second round (No. 15 overall) by Rain or Shine in the 2015 draft.

That's an awesome news  for Trollano, this might be a good chance to work with his former mentor, it won't be hard for both of them to work again.

Coach Yeng knows how Trollano work and with a lots of improvements from this guy, the team will surely benefits from this trade.

His been given this new chance and for sure he won't disappoint he's new family!
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March 11, 2021, 10:00:44 PM
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Hopefully Don Trollano's career will be better under his original mentor.
NLEX needed a guy who work on both offense and defense with hard work, this is a great acquisition by the NLEX as they lack on defense.

Trollano embraces chance to work anew with primary mentor Guiao
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VETERAN guard Don Trollano feels like he’s starting all over again after being reunited with the mentor who gave him his break in the PBA.

The 29-year-old wingman welcomes his get-together with coach Yeng Guiao after being acquired by NLEX in a complex, three-team trade approved by the league on Thursday.

Trollano has improved tremendously through his first five seasons as a pro since being picked in the second round (No. 15 overall) by Rain or Shine in the 2015 draft.

That's an awesome news  for Trollano, this might be a good chance to work with his former mentor, it won't be hard for both of them to work again.

Coach Yeng knows how Trollano work and with a lots of improvements from this guy, the team will surely benefits from this trade.

His been given this new chance and for sure he won't disappoint he's new family!

He is now reunited with his old coach and he is in a team that has a chance to be in playoffs or even in a championship stage. I like this move, I thought Trollano's talent will just end up with the Blackwater which is not a good team.

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For me, the only downside here is the quality of PBA will decline because the best players are getting good offers abroad and for the sake of money they'll grab it.

In reality, only a few good players here are offered to play abroad so I think the quality of PBA won't be decline. Besides, the process isn't easy as there are also players from other countries who are receiving offers. There's competition regarding import players.

It's a gamble for a player whether he wants to target to play abroad or to be drafted in PBA as they will be under contract for years. They must choose wisely so there will be no wasted years.

And just a reference to your example, Fajardo claimed way back in 2018 that he's still not receiving any offer to play abroad yet since he is shown being interested in 2016. Not sure though the following years.

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March 12, 2021, 09:38:04 AM
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Thompson truly deserve a max contract.

Ginebra rewards Scottie Thompson with three-year maximum contract

There's nothing more the team could ask from this guy, he is improving every season and this season we've seen his consistency in 3 point shooting. I love the decision, he will surely work harder to impress the management and prove that they are not wrong for giving him a max contract.

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March 12, 2021, 10:04:45 AM
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Thompson truly deserve a max contract.

Ginebra rewards Scottie Thompson with three-year maximum contract

There's nothing more the team could ask from this guy, he is improving every season and this season we've seen his consistency in 3 point shooting. I love the decision, he will surely work harder to impress the management and prove that they are not wrong for giving him a max contract.

Another great news!

Wait, AFAIR, only Calvin and Thompson gets a max contract this season? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's a well deserved for him, I consider him as a superstar in PBA already, because he is an all around player and what I admire him so much is his Hussle on the floor and his exceptional rebounding skills. Congratulations to Scottie my man.

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March 12, 2021, 10:56:03 AM
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Thompson truly deserve a max contract.

Ginebra rewards Scottie Thompson with three-year maximum contract

There's nothing more the team could ask from this guy, he is improving every season and this season we've seen his consistency in 3 point shooting. I love the decision, he will surely work harder to impress the management and prove that they are not wrong for giving him a max contract.

Another great news!

Wait, AFAIR, only Calvin and Thompson gets a max contract this season? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's a well deserved for him, I consider him as a superstar in PBA already, because he is an all around player and what I admire him so much is his Hussle on the floor and his exceptional rebounding skills. Congratulations to Scottie my man.

I'm not surprise with this news, I will be surprise if they will not give Scottie a maximum contract when he was so effective during their championship run. I think all the Ginebra starters are getting a max contract, they are the best team as of now so they deserved a better salary.

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March 12, 2021, 08:08:42 PM
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Thompson truly deserve a max contract.

Ginebra rewards Scottie Thompson with three-year maximum contract

There's nothing more the team could ask from this guy, he is improving every season and this season we've seen his consistency in 3 point shooting. I love the decision, he will surely work harder to impress the management and prove that they are not wrong for giving him a max contract.

Another great news!

Wait, AFAIR, only Calvin and Thompson gets a max contract this season? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's a well deserved for him, I consider him as a superstar in PBA already, because he is an all around player and what I admire him so much is his Hussle on the floor and his exceptional rebounding skills. Congratulations to Scottie my man.

I'm not surprise with this news, I will be surprise if they will not give Scottie a maximum contract when he was so effective during their championship run. I think all the Ginebra starters are getting a max contract, they are the best team as of now so they deserved a better salary.
Yeah, he's like one of the best players in the league, and his team wouldn't allow him to just let go if he won't be getting a contract from them. Well, he has now the confidence within the three years of the contract. I wouldn't think of anything first until the contract ends.
And if they get another championship, they would really not hesitate to give him another one once it ends.

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March 12, 2021, 09:44:37 PM
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And if they get another championship, they would really not hesitate to give him another one once it ends.

They might get another championship again, they are already seasoned as a team and getting C. Stand is a huge help for that campaign. Thompson really excel in rebounding for a small guy and that also provide some energy for the team which makes them a better team.

This season to come (next month), I think Ginebra has a better chance of winning that championship again.

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March 12, 2021, 11:28:02 PM
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And if they get another championship, they would really not hesitate to give him another one once it ends.

They might get another championship again, they are already seasoned as a team and getting C. Stand is a huge help for that campaign. Thompson really excel in rebounding for a small guy and that also provide some energy for the team which makes them a better team.

This season to come (next month), I think Ginebra has a better chance of winning that championship again.

He also improved his long-range shots, a good quality of a player to keep improving from time to time. He deserve the Max contract as for sure aside from that legal one there's are other added benefits for him.The very reason most players wanted to play with SMC franchise as they truly value the player by providing very competitive contract. They know how to keep players who deserve to play with them.

Having C.Stand and with the blended selections of coach Tim, the chance for winning another title is very possible, they've got all covered from small to big men inside the court with also a good role players to back them up.

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Thompson truly deserve a max contract.

Ginebra rewards Scottie Thompson with three-year maximum contract

There's nothing more the team could ask from this guy, he is improving every season and this season we've seen his consistency in 3 point shooting. I love the decision, he will surely work harder to impress the management and prove that they are not wrong for giving him a max contract.
Too late but being late is better than never.

He is consistently improving throughout the years. From being a triple-double player years ago from a good defender and now he is improving in threes and in fact he made a buzzer beater in the Bubble last November of last year. He deserves this max contract.

Ginebra's roster in general is already considered a championship contender and even without Slaughter, they managed to get a championship last year. Now that they got CStan in their roster, their roster are way better than the other teams or even SMB team (at least for me). CStan, Aguilar, Devance/Thompson, Tenorio and Pringle as their starting line-up Cheesy. Can anybody match this line-up? Cheesy

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March 13, 2021, 10:59:34 AM
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Thompson truly deserve a max contract.

Ginebra rewards Scottie Thompson with three-year maximum contract

There's nothing more the team could ask from this guy, he is improving every season and this season we've seen his consistency in 3 point shooting. I love the decision, he will surely work harder to impress the management and prove that they are not wrong for giving him a max contract.
Too late but being late is better than never.

He is consistently improving throughout the years. From being a triple-double player years ago from a good defender and now he is improving in threes and in fact he made a buzzer beater in the Bubble last November of last year. He deserves this max contract.

Ginebra's roster in general is already considered a championship contender and even without Slaughter, they managed to get a championship last year. Now that they got CStan in their roster, their roster are way better than the other teams or even SMB team (at least for me). CStan, Aguilar, Devance/Thompson, Tenorio and Pringle as their starting line-up Cheesy. Can anybody match this line-up? Cheesy

I guess he is not a triple double kind of player, he is more consistent with double double as he can make at least 10 rebounds per game if he wants to. Thompson from his rookie yet up to now has never failed to amaze us, and what I like about him is he is very humble.

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March 13, 2021, 11:28:20 AM
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And if they get another championship, they would really not hesitate to give him another one once it ends.

They might get another championship again, they are already seasoned as a team and getting C. Stand is a huge help for that campaign. Thompson really excel in rebounding for a small guy and that also provide some energy for the team which makes them a better team.

This season to come (next month), I think Ginebra has a better chance of winning that championship again.

He also improved his long-range shots, a good quality of a player to keep improving from time to time. He deserve the Max contract as for sure aside from that legal one there's are other added benefits for him.The very reason most players wanted to play with SMC franchise as they truly value the player by providing very competitive contract. They know how to keep players who deserve to play with them.

Having C.Stand and with the blended selections of coach Tim, the chance for winning another title is very possible, they've got all covered from small to big men inside the court with also a good role players to back them up.

He made some winning shot during the bubble and that was during the playoffs IIRC.. He is really improving and I'm happy that he is healthy and playing consistent games with the Ginebra, maybe he learn some technique from LA Tenorio on how to stay healthy as you can always see Tenorio available on the floor.

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March 13, 2021, 04:32:59 PM
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He made some winning shot during the bubble and that was during the playoffs IIRC.. He is really improving and I'm happy that he is healthy and playing consistent games with the Ginebra, maybe he learn some technique from LA Tenorio on how to stay healthy as you can always see Tenorio available on the floor.

Yes indeed, that's really unforgettable making a shots when the team needed the most, he's confidence is really improving.

I saw some of his videos  and it seems that he's really taking care of his health, and likewise he might getting advice from his teammates in how he can stay in shape.

The next season is very interesting as trades has been done, the competitions might be more tougher than the last bubble.

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March 13, 2021, 07:25:15 PM
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And if they get another championship, they would really not hesitate to give him another one once it ends.

They might get another championship again, they are already seasoned as a team and getting C. Stand is a huge help for that campaign. Thompson really excel in rebounding for a small guy and that also provide some energy for the team which makes them a better team.

This season to come (next month), I think Ginebra has a better chance of winning that championship again.
Many of us think the same that they're going to be easy on this season. They really will possibly be getting into the championships again. And that's why they've improved their roster and got a change.
Well, if that happens again, fans will celebrate and the other fans who hate this team will again think that the management about changing roster is unfair only for Ginebra.

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March 13, 2021, 10:00:22 PM
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And if they get another championship, they would really not hesitate to give him another one once it ends.

They might get another championship again, they are already seasoned as a team and getting C. Stand is a huge help for that campaign. Thompson really excel in rebounding for a small guy and that also provide some energy for the team which makes them a better team.

This season to come (next month), I think Ginebra has a better chance of winning that championship again.
Many of us think the same that they're going to be easy on this season. They really will possibly be getting into the championships again. And that's why they've improved their roster and got a change.
Well, if that happens again, fans will celebrate and the other fans who hate this team will again think that the management about changing roster is unfair only for Ginebra.
They are likely to win a championship again but I'm glad that other teams (although their sister teams) have also improve their line up.

SMB got CJ Perez, and probably a healthy Fajardo and Magnolia already had Calvin Abueva.

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