2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Fredomago]

https://www.spin.ph/life/guide/rey-nambatac-girlfriend-get-death-threats-for-botched-ending-bet-a2442-20201113?ref=home_featured_1

^^ what a news. I just remember the last shot made by Herro on the championship series where it went in and many Las Vegas bettors are upset on him and even sending death threats.

Do you think that Nambatac is doing the right thing of throwing it up even though they don't any chance of winning that game?

Lot's of bettors lose their bet on that last shot, haha.. but it's a different story as there is a quotient system in the PBA now, it's done during the regular season so we can understand why Nambatac did that, some fans are just so stupid who don't know what a quotient system is and how it work in the PBA's current season.

In gambling industry, there's no rules that jurisdict those gamblers, what they've knew is the bets got burned after hitting that shot. We can't dictate what should they've understand, for Mambatac he knows the importance of that last shot they needed it to continue their
quest reaching the second round.

The bad thing now is those threats that both he and her gf are recieving, that's unacceptable. He's a pro and he shouldn't be bothered by anything, whatever he do inside the court is his right as long as he's not violating any rules from the league. Those people who re bitter after losing for sure will not just lose their money but also their reputaions.

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[Bttzed03]

I just found out in the Bitsler thread that it's the QF now. Sorry for my ignorance here but how does the twice-to-beat advantage works in a QF match? I saw it when I was browsing the PBA website. In Bolts vs SMB for example, Meralco needs to win one more to advance to the SF? I got used to the best of xx series.

[harizen]

In Bolts vs SMB for example, Meralco needs to win one more to advance to the SF? I got used to the best of xx series.

The top 4 teams will have a twice-to-beat advantage against the bottom 4 that managed to get in the Quarterfinals.

SMB (4) vs Meralco (5) - SMB will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Since Meralco won, it's now a do-or-die on both teams on their next game.
BGSM (1)  vs ROS ( - BGSM will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Since BGSM won, they will now enter the Semifinals and ROS will now bid goodbye to the bubble.

The best of X Series will be on SemiFinals (Best-of-5) and Finals (Best-of-7).

Back then, the Top 1 and 2 were automatically sent on the Semis.

[Russlenat]

ROS has to improved a lot especially in the 4th quarter, been seeing them so aggressive in the 1st to 3rd but 4th is usually their weakness as they allow a team to come back and beat them. They were able to give a good fight against Ginebra, but that crucial minutes in the 4th, they seemed to forget to maintain their composure, they were hesitating and it seems no one would like to take a shot, too much ball movement for them that they have to force shots sometimes, a low percentage shot.

[mirakal]

I will speculate like this:

If Phoenix will not win on Game 1, I'm seeing Magnolia will advance.

That's automatic since Phoenix only needs to win one game, lol.

If Phoenix will lose on Game 1, they still have a chance at Game 2. Where's the automatic for Magnolia lol.

What I meant there is, If Phoenix will not do their best on Game 1 and lose, Magnolia will surely take Game 2 as I mentioned, they are used to playing in a pressure game. Phoenix must put all their firepower in Game 1 as they just only need 1 win and sealed the series right there. I want them to win against Magnolia.

That's my bad,  I didn't see the "not", lol..

you are right though, Phoenix needs to win in game 1 so they will not feel too much pressure in a do or die game for them.
I think everyone here is backing on the Magnolia Hotshots to win, they are a slight favorite now, @1.70 ML when I checked last night.

[goinmerry]

ROS has to improved a lot especially in the 4th quarter, been seeing them so aggressive in the 1st to 3rd but 4th is usually their weakness as they allow a team to come back and beat them. They were able to give a good fight against Ginebra, but that crucial minutes in the 4th, they seemed to forget to maintain their composure, they were hesitating and it seems no one would like to take a shot, too much ball movement for them that they have to force shots sometimes, a low percentage shot.

I agree. ROS able to make the game closed at about 7 minutes to 2 minutes 4Q until they suddenly lose their focus and that gives Ginebra a chance to extend the lead slowly and the next thing happens is, they will now exit the PBA.

I thought it's Ginebra all the way without a competitive match but ROS able to get back in shape. The game becomes unpredictable during the 4th.

Better luck next time for ROS fans.

[Finestream]

ROS has to improved a lot especially in the 4th quarter, been seeing them so aggressive in the 1st to 3rd but 4th is usually their weakness as they allow a team to come back and beat them. They were able to give a good fight against Ginebra, but that crucial minutes in the 4th, they seemed to forget to maintain their composure, they were hesitating and it seems no one would like to take a shot, too much ball movement for them that they have to force shots sometimes, a low percentage shot.

I agree. ROS able to make the game closed at about 7 minutes to 2 minutes 4Q until they suddenly lose their focus and that gives Ginebra a chance to extend the lead slowly and the next thing happens is, they will now exit the PBA.

I thought it's Ginebra all the way without a competitive match but ROS able to get back in shape. The game becomes unpredictable during the 4th.

Better luck next time for ROS fans.

As per the commentator said, ROS has less chance of success when they are in a twice to beat disadvantage while Ginebra wins most of the time when they are in advantage. What I saw is that they are doing a great job on Pringle, but I don't why they allow Pringle to score consecutive baskets in few minutes before the end of the game, maybe they lose their focus, the young guns are not anymore doing what they are expected, they rely on James Yap a lot.

Pringle is really a good pick up by the Ginebra, when they need a points, you can rely on him.

[Maslate]

Lines for games today.

TNT Giga vs Alaska Aces _ +7.5

over/under 187.5

Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters vs Magnolia Hotshots _  -2.5

over/under 184.5


https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/matches/today


Choose your pick now before the line moves.

[chaser15]

.. but I don't why they allow Pringle to score consecutive baskets in few minutes before the end of the game,

It's not that ROS allow it but that consecutive shots by Pringle were a job well done. Some ROS players are exhausted maybe because of their pure effort on their rally to narrow the lead. After that consecutive shots by Pringle, it seems ROS already accepts the result of the game.

And Meralco seems on fire against SMB. They can shift at any phase, slow or fast place. Lots of shots were made thru open shot and even defended ones. Good thing that JuneMar is not playing. The game is well-balanced lol as if ever there's JuneMar, no one from Meralco can defend him. Surely a criticism for SMB if ever Meralco will able to upset them.

[goinmerry]

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/matches/today

Choose your pick now before the line moves.

Even with the twice to beat advantage, Magnolia is still the favorite to win the game.

Tempting to bet on Phoenix ML at 2.15 but because Magnolia is in do or die situation, they might be the one that is more dedicated to win the game as Phoenix might have a mindset that because in an event of loss, there is still have a chance for them.

Under 184.5 at 1.92 is tempting too. Hmmm..

[Maslate]

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/matches/today

Choose your pick now before the line moves.

Even with the twice to beat advantage, Magnolia is still the favorite to win the game.

Tempting to bet on Phoenix ML at 2.15 but because Magnolia is in do or die situation, they might be the one that is more dedicated to win the game as Phoenix might have a mindset that because in an event of loss, there is still have a chance for them.

Under 184.5 at 1.92 is tempting too. Hmmm..

Under is pretty much consistent in the quarter finals so far, the two games yesterday both went under, so it's nice to still bet on the under as we might see the same scenario again, no high scoring game at the moment due to fatigue factor and this is an elimination game.

[bisdak40]

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/matches/today

Choose your pick now before the line moves.

Even with the twice to beat advantage, Magnolia is still the favorite to win the game.

Tempting to bet on Phoenix ML at 2.15 but because Magnolia is in do or die situation, they might be the one that is more dedicated to win the game as Phoenix might have a mindset that because in an event of loss, there is still have a chance for them.

Under 184.5 at 1.92 is tempting too. Hmmm..

This match-up is bitter sweet for me as i'm rooting for Magnolia to win the championship but i am also want Phoenix to fight in the finals as this season is their best chance to be PBA champion.

Anyways, liike you said Phoenix might have a different mindset on today's game different from that of Magnolia as their backs are against the wall so with that my bet is Magnolia -3.5 1.93.

For the record, Magnolia is on twice-to-beat disadvantage, they need to win two games before proceeding to the semis.

[Maslate]

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/matches/today

Choose your pick now before the line moves.

Even with the twice to beat advantage, Magnolia is still the favorite to win the game.

Tempting to bet on Phoenix ML at 2.15 but because Magnolia is in do or die situation, they might be the one that is more dedicated to win the game as Phoenix might have a mindset that because in an event of loss, there is still have a chance for them.

Under 184.5 at 1.92 is tempting too. Hmmm..

This match-up is bitter sweet for me as i'm rooting for Magnolia to win the championship but i am also want Phoenix to fight in the finals as this season is their best chance to be PBA champion.

Anyways, liike you said Phoenix might have a different mindset on today's game different from that of Magnolia as their backs are against the wall so with that my bet is Magnolia -3.5 1.93.

For the record, Magnolia is on twice-to-beat disadvantage, they need to win two games before proceeding to the semis.

The under 184.5 won just by 0.5 point, it was a domination by the TNT Giga in the 2nd half and Alaska couldn't come back anymore. One team has been eliminated today, hopefully the next game will not have the same result, also rooting for Magnolia, I got it @ 1.957.

[Bttzed03]

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The top 4 teams will have a twice-to-beat advantage against the bottom 4 that managed to get in the Quarterfinals.

SMB (4) vs Meralco (5) - SMB will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Since Meralco won, it's now a do-or-die on both teams on their next game.
BGSM (1)  vs ROS ( - BGSM will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Since BGSM won, they will now enter the Semifinals and ROS will now bid goodbye to the bubble.

The best of X Series will be on SemiFinals (Best-of-5) and Finals (Best-of-7).

Back then, the Top 1 and 2 were automatically sent on the Semis.

Got it. I don't particularly like the format but I guess it's to encourage teams to finish as high as possible and get that advantage.


I have no idea about Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters vs Magnolia Hotshots. I read some predictions online that it's Magnolia because they have the momentum after six straight wins. Hmmmm I'm a Paul Lee fan but I'm just gonna place small bets on the underdog (Phoenix) at 2.33 and hope that Calvin Abueva explodes (in scoring not hitting players).

I'm still undecided on the scoreline. I like the line at under 184.5 but looking at the scoring average of these two teams, it's unlikely.

[Sanitough]

I'm still undecided on the scoreline. I like the line at under 184.5 but looking at the scoring average of these two teams, it's unlikely.

Of the 3 games that was already played, all of their total went under, you should not go with the flow, Magnolia is a low scoring team as they are focus on their defense, so if they will dictate the tempo, the game will end up a low scoring game, unless OT will happen.

[Bttzed03]

~ Magnolia is a low scoring team as they are focus on their defense,

Are they? Okay!

I waited for about five minutes for the line to go back up to at least 2 but it wasn't coming. Maybe a minute or two after I placed my bet, the line was at 2.1. This is why I prefer betting before the match starts. Thanks Bitsler 

[Russlenat]

~ Magnolia is a low scoring team as they are focus on their defense,

Are they? Okay!

I waited for about five minutes for the line to go back up to at least 2 but it wasn't coming. Maybe a minute or two after I placed my bet, the line was at 2.1. This is why I prefer betting before the match starts. Thanks Bitsler 

Though you are betting live, lucky for you that you still get the original line. We are seeing an intense game, a close game now but most likely the scoring will more slow down in the 2nd half as they will get tired due to their very aggressive defense against each other.

[Finestream]

~ Magnolia is a low scoring team as they are focus on their defense,

Are they? Okay!

I waited for about five minutes for the line to go back up to at least 2 but it wasn't coming. Maybe a minute or two after I placed my bet, the line was at 2.1. This is why I prefer betting before the match starts. Thanks Bitsler 

Though you are betting live, lucky for you that you still get the original line. We are seeing an intense game, a close game now but most likely the scoring will more slow down in the 2nd half as they will get tired due to their very aggressive defense against each other.

Your analysis is correct it's a low scoring game, it's magnolia pace that we are seeing now and they manage the reduce the scoring in the second quarter.
@Bttzed03, live betting for total score now is only 174.5, you already ahead by 10 points, if you'll hedge you are a sure win, lol..

1st quarter 24-21, 2nd quarter 13-18... if this trend continues, it might not even reach 150 points.

For live betting on point spread also, it's currently -4.5 for Magnolia Hotshots.

Bitsler line. https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/24430172-phoenix-pulse-fuel-masters-vs-magnolia-hotshots

[zhea]

~ Magnolia is a low scoring team as they are focus on their defense,

Are they? Okay!

I waited for about five minutes for the line to go back up to at least 2 but it wasn't coming. Maybe a minute or two after I placed my bet, the line was at 2.1. This is why I prefer betting before the match starts. Thanks Bitsler  

Though you are betting live, lucky for you that you still get the original line. We are seeing an intense game, a close game now but most likely the scoring will more slow down in the 2nd half as they will get tired due to their very aggressive defense against each other.

Your analysis is correct it's a low scoring game, it's magnolia pace that we are seeing now and they manage the reduce the scoring in the second quarter.
@Bttzed03, live betting for total score now is only 174.5, you already ahead by 10 points, if you'll hedge you are a sure win, lol..

1st quarter 24-21, 2nd quarter 13-18... if this trend continues, it might not even reach 150 points.

For live betting on point spread also, it's currently -4.5 for Magnolia Hotshots.

Bitsler line. https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/24430172-phoenix-pulse-fuel-masters-vs-magnolia-hotshots

Very close game and low scoring also, even if this game would go to overtime it won't reach 190 points.
For those people who love to bet "scores by quarter", you can check it out.
under/over 50.5 is very interesting odds for me, of course, I'm going for the under.

[Bttzed03]

^ Thanks for the update guys.

I had no intention of following the game and just wait for Bitsler to send me a notification that I won  
If the low scoring continues, at least my bet on the other line is already covered. My first time to bet on this particular cup and it would be nice to start with a W.