2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[blockman]

PBA should just push the bubble setup.

After this week's ECQ, I think it will be extended or if not, there's still a high restriction regarding sports events that may last up to a month.

Or PBA can still take a longer break to make good preparations and use the target date for Governors Cup instead which is around June or July.

I agree the covid cases aren't decreasing and it just keeps on increasing. It is very likely that the ECQ will be extended again for a week or maybe they will push it up to another month although most of us cannot cater to it anymore. If PBA don't want to move the schedule, they can also I think occupy the known courts like Araneta and have their own staff and players room there and just close the whole coliseum just for the sake of the bubble.

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[bisdak40]

Talking about Ray Parks, I've seen articles that he said that he's ready to stay away from basketball. After the issue about him, that seems to be a good move for him to avoid further criticism that he's getting lately.

Ray Parks, too proud and it would do nothing on his career. He said he is willing to step away from the game of basketball but i doubt that, he is just sour-graping.

If only he have good advisers, the good thing for him at the moment is not talk on social media and instead talk privately to MVP and there might be a chance to salvage his career just like what Greg Slaughter did.

[Fredomago]

PBA should just push the bubble setup.

After this week's ECQ, I think it will be extended or if not, there's still a high restriction regarding sports events that may last up to a month.

Or PBA can still take a longer break to make good preparations and use the target date for Governors Cup instead which is around June or July.

I agree the covid cases aren't decreasing and it just keeps on increasing. It is very likely that the ECQ will be extended again for a week or maybe they will push it up to another month although most of us cannot cater to it anymore. If PBA don't want to move the schedule, they can also I think occupy the known courts like Araneta and have their own staff and players room there and just close the whole coliseum just for the sake of the bubble.

Another bubble just to make sure that the league will proceed to this season, I agree that this pandemic is not going anywhere too soon. Wit a lots of numbers of new cases it will take much longer time.

The decision still reside with the governors as even fans wanted or aiming to see thier teams to play, risking the health of everyone is far important.
For sure as of this moment there are lots of talks behind, so many aspects to consider. Lets wait and see for the finalization and proper announcement coming from the boards.

[blockman]

PBA should just push the bubble setup.

After this week's ECQ, I think it will be extended or if not, there's still a high restriction regarding sports events that may last up to a month.

Or PBA can still take a longer break to make good preparations and use the target date for Governors Cup instead which is around June or July.

I agree the covid cases aren't decreasing and it just keeps on increasing. It is very likely that the ECQ will be extended again for a week or maybe they will push it up to another month although most of us cannot cater to it anymore. If PBA don't want to move the schedule, they can also I think occupy the known courts like Araneta and have their own staff and players room there and just close the whole coliseum just for the sake of the bubble.

Another bubble just to make sure that the league will proceed to this season, I agree that this pandemic is not going anywhere too soon. Wit a lots of numbers of new cases it will take much longer time.

The decision still reside with the governors as even fans wanted or aiming to see thier teams to play, risking the health of everyone is far important.
For sure as of this moment there are lots of talks behind, so many aspects to consider. Lets wait and see for the finalization and proper announcement coming from the boards.

It is to avoid the possible addition of new cases while the league starts this April. But if they don't like that setup anymore, they can have it on a daily routine to have a swab test or antigen test a few hours or a day before a game is about to start. That's just going to give them assurance that as the season starts, there's no worry on it.

[harizen]

Ray Parks, too proud and it would do nothing on his career. He said he is willing to step away from the game of basketball but i doubt that, he is just sour-graping.

And in the event wherein their top rookie, Mickey Williams explodes right at the start of the season, I doubt TNT will still push for Ray Parks service.

That rookie is expected to become one of TNT's best assets. Should be an NLEX pick but because of a 3-team trade deal, TNT got the hands of this top rookie.

But if they don't like that setup anymore, they can have it on a daily routine to have a swab test or antigen test a few hours or a day before a game is about to start. That's just going to give them assurance that as the season starts, there's no worry on it.

Regular testing is one of the main concerns back in planning to make a bubble setup for the first time. Other teams can't afford to do it on a regular basis as it was really expensive. If my memory serves me right, there are a total of 15-20 individuals per team allowed in the bubble (players, staff, coaches, etc) so just do the Math based on the average cost of testing. That's why COVID is really business as others says lol.

And not just that, another problem is, even they want a bubble setup, other players are allowed to opt-out if they don't want to play.

[chaser15]

Another bubble just to make sure that the league will proceed to this season, I agree that this pandemic is not going anywhere too soon. Wit a lots of numbers of new cases it will take much longer time.

You are right. Not a negative here but I see pandemic will still be here the whole year. No other choice but to do the bubble setup again.

Since even it won't be a bubble setup, audiences are still not allowed, no changes at all. The league already did this before so if there's a change or will be added, they can manage it properly without a problem. They can do it again on Clark.

[Finestream]

Another bubble just to make sure that the league will proceed to this season, I agree that this pandemic is not going anywhere too soon. Wit a lots of numbers of new cases it will take much longer time.

You are right. Not a negative here but I see pandemic will still be here the whole year. No other choice but to do the bubble setup again.

Since even it won't be a bubble setup, audiences are still not allowed, no changes at all. The league already did this before so if there's a change or will be added, they can manage it properly without a problem. They can do it again on Clark.

Of course they can set up the bubble again, but are they still profitable doing this?

I mean, this could be a whole season with different conference, and one year is long to be playing without audience, well, I hope I'm wrong with what I have in mind, and hopefully they can still survive and will continue to operate profitably despite of minimal revenue due using the bubble set up.

[blockman]

But if they don't like that setup anymore, they can have it on a daily routine to have a swab test or antigen test a few hours or a day before a game is about to start. That's just going to give them assurance that as the season starts, there's no worry on it.

Regular testing is one of the main concerns back in planning to make a bubble setup for the first time. Other teams can't afford to do it on a regular basis as it was really expensive. If my memory serves me right, there are a total of 15-20 individuals per team allowed in the bubble (players, staff, coaches, etc) so just do the Math based on the average cost of testing. That's why COVID is really business as others says lol.

And not just that, another problem is, even they want a bubble setup, other players are allowed to opt-out if they don't want to play.

It's a hard decision for them to make as the scheduled date is approaching for the start of this season. Yeah, it's expensive for them to do it regularly, I thought that they have a bigger budget on it but everyone really is struggling on this crisis even these huge companies and franchises that are part of it. Another solution is to them to import the vaccines for all of their staff and players because the government has allowed private institutions to import it.

[chaser15]

Of course they can set up the bubble again, but are they still profitable doing this?

I mean, this could be a whole season with different conference, and one year is long to be playing without audience, well, I hope I'm wrong with what I have in mind, and hopefully they can still survive and will continue to operate profitably despite of minimal revenue due using the bubble set up.

You missed the last part of my post. I already said that even it's a bubble or not, there's still no audience allowed. Therefore, profits are still expected to be minimal. The original plan of opening the PBA on Ynares doesn't allow any live audience.

I'm searching for a post that Marcial said before that they can sustain a bubble set up for 2 seasons because their goal is to bring enjoyment to all their fans as they understand to become stuck at home for long or something like that. And they just did a 1 conference last year instead of 3 conference so I think they can really sustain operations even with minimal profits on the next bubble setup.

[harizen]

Since we talked about expenses, I searched a bit. Based on reports, the league spends Php 65 Million last year, 2020, to cover all the expenses of the bubble operation within 2 months.

Last 2019, P435 million was their income. I can't find a source on how much they profit last year, maybe we can just do some speculation that maybe around half?

And according to them, live streams prior to the pandemic becomes hype as they gather up to 3 Million viewers last 2019. It means, even without an audience, they can still get a good number of people watching right from their home. Still on profits if they will be bubble again this year but not on their usual. Better than 0 revenue at all and there's no money coming in.

[Sanitough]

@harizen, I'm just curious how they make money from live stream, or how much they will make since live stream is free and they are only using a facebook platform. Was the amount enough to cover the expenses? I know there are some advertisers too, but in total, can they sustain the operation?

[harizen]

@harizen, I'm just curious how they make money from live stream, or how much they will make since live stream is free and they are only using a facebook platform. Was the amount enough to cover the expenses? I know there are some advertisers too, but in total, can they sustain the operation?

Honestly, I don't have much of that info but in terms of sustaining the operation, yes they can because of their big revenue way back a few years. It's now being used to cover future operations but we don't know how long it will last.

Prior pandemic, the league revenue is seen increasing year by year. It's just 1 conference that they operate in the bubble so I think it didn't fully harm yet the money on their reserves. Php 65M expenses last year should be just a piece of candy to them.

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

[blockman]

Since we talked about expenses, I searched a bit. Based on reports, the league spends Php 65 Million last year, 2020, to cover all the expenses of the bubble operation within 2 months.

Last 2019, P435 million was their income. I can't find a source on how much they profit last year, maybe we can just do some speculation that maybe around half?

And according to them, live streams prior to the pandemic becomes hype as they gather up to 3 Million viewers last 2019. It means, even without an audience, they can still get a good number of people watching right from their home. Still on profits if they will be bubble again this year but not on their usual. Better than 0 revenue at all and there's no money coming in.

As speculation, I think you can have it up to 1/4 of that total amount or even to 1/8 since the pandemic has occurred. As long as they will be able to cover the expenses and with a profit, they can do the setup.
But it's still one awaited decision if they'll go on a bubble again or it would be the normal setup again but without audiences.

[Russlenat]

Even some players understood that PBA will likely be into a bubble again.

Ahanmisi willing to go through 'mentally tough' PBA bubble again just to play

Actually I liked this guy, I hope he is not fully healthy and he can get back to his old self.

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

Huge target and I think that will be unrealistic if the set up is a bubble again.

[blockman]

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

Huge target and I think that will be unrealistic if the set up is a bubble again.

Their sponsors were also badly hit by the pandemic and also catching up with the same situation. Too bad but it's understandable that everybody is dealing with the hardship made by the pandemic. But soon this shall pass and everything is going to come back normal again.
I'm sure that when things go back to normal, they will definitely watch a live match if it's already allowed.

[Vaculin]

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

Huge target and I think that will be unrealistic if the set up is a bubble again.

Their sponsors were also badly hit by the pandemic and also catching up with the same situation. Too bad but it's understandable that everybody is dealing with the hardship made by the pandemic. But soon this shall pass and everything is going to come back normal again.
I'm sure that when things go back to normal, they will definitely watch a live match if it's already allowed.

I hope things will be normal this year, and hopefully they will fast track the release of vaccine so everyone will receive a vaccine and slowly we will get back to normal. Some country are already moving ahead of us, we were too complacent that's the rate is increasing but the vaccine is not coming faster than we expected.

[Fredomago]

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

Huge target and I think that will be unrealistic if the set up is a bubble again.

Their sponsors were also badly hit by the pandemic and also catching up with the same situation. Too bad but it's understandable that everybody is dealing with the hardship made by the pandemic. But soon this shall pass and everything is going to come back normal again.
I'm sure that when things go back to normal, they will definitely watch a live match if it's already allowed.

It will take time, knowing how bad the economy has been hit by this pandemic. The leauge unable to collect their target and yes, if this same setup (bubble type) it's unrealistic to cover that amount.

But there's no other option if they  push this season, they'll be forced to use the same as last season. Better
than nothing though, we are all hoping for the best and for the season to start whatever setup the boards will use.

[Hypnosis00]

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

Huge target and I think that will be unrealistic if the set up is a bubble again.

Their sponsors were also badly hit by the pandemic and also catching up with the same situation. Too bad but it's understandable that everybody is dealing with the hardship made by the pandemic. But soon this shall pass and everything is going to come back normal again.
I'm sure that when things go back to normal, they will definitely watch a live match if it's already allowed.

It will take time, knowing how bad the economy has been hit by this pandemic. The leauge unable to collect their target and yes, if this same setup (bubble type) it's unrealistic to cover that amount.

But there's no other option if they  push this season, they'll be forced to use the same as last season. Better
than nothing though, we are all hoping for the best and for the season to start whatever setup the boards will use.

Let's remain optimistic, let's hope that in the 2nd half of the year things will be normal again, though its unlikely but who knows maybe it will happen. Vaccine is available and ECQ are already in place again, so there's a big possibility that covid-19 cases will dropped as people are slowly getting the vaccine.

[Sanitough]

New NLEX player Trollano hopes to win another title with old coach, former teammates

Big dream! With the current line up of the NLEX, I doubt they will win a championship, oven reach the championship.
There best chance is only a conference with imports, not in the all Filipino cup.

[arwin100]

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

Huge target and I think that will be unrealistic if the set up is a bubble again.

Their sponsors were also badly hit by the pandemic and also catching up with the same situation. Too bad but it's understandable that everybody is dealing with the hardship made by the pandemic. But soon this shall pass and everything is going to come back normal again.
I'm sure that when things go back to normal, they will definitely watch a live match if it's already allowed.

It will take time, knowing how bad the economy has been hit by this pandemic. The leauge unable to collect their target and yes, if this same setup (bubble type) it's unrealistic to cover that amount.

But there's no other option if they  push this season, they'll be forced to use the same as last season. Better
than nothing though, we are all hoping for the best and for the season to start whatever setup the boards will use.

Let's remain optimistic, let's hope that in the 2nd half of the year things will be normal again, though its unlikely but who knows maybe it will happen. Vaccine is available and ECQ are already in place again, so there's a big possibility that covid-19 cases will dropped as people are slowly getting the vaccine.

If vaccine will successfully rolled out then provably the 2nd half target will come true but if not and the cases still will rise the new variant is now spreading fast in Philippines maybe we can see the league start on late months of this year. Lets just see if the cases will subside so that the new conference will open up.