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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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July 09, 2021, 05:25:32 PM
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I can't even read news regarding this, but there's a lot of speculation you can find on Facebook and some on youtube from our sports fans that has a youtube channel. We are just also speculating here, and we have discussed in the previous page that Greg is bad for SMB as they have JMF who is currently their best player, and with that, SMB will easily dominate the paint as these two rivals will now help each other to dominate.

If so.. With healthy two giants inside the paint plus energetic Perez and Romeo and a possiblities of having Bolic what kind of line up is that?
No assurance or any confirmation about this possible trades but if this will happened, SMB will take another dominance knowing that their role players are also fits to rest the starters and give some minutes to sit and relax.

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Have you heard about the new rules of PBA about those expires contract players who will choose to play outside the country? or outside PBA? not sure yet but the punishments will take 5 years of waiting and fees to comeback and play with the league. I don't have the source though just seen it from some post inside FB.

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July 09, 2021, 08:25:48 PM
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how true that Robert bolic is being recruited san, Miguel Beerman, I'm just curious about the trades that SMB corp is doing they want to be champions every season for the PBA? and what will be the team will receive in exchange for that player, I hope the PBA will change this kind of trade were in one team is stacking star players and the other team with bench players.

That's the rumors, actually, it's together with Greg, but we have no full info regarding that and who will be shifted to Northport in exchange for these 2 great players. SMB trying to form a super team again, I mean they are already a superteam but they still want to make the lineup better, I'm afraid they'll shift the old guards like Cabagnot and Ross.

I can't even read news regarding this, but there's a lot of speculation you can find on Facebook and some on youtube from our sports fans that has a youtube channel. We are just also speculating here, and we have discussed in the previous page that Greg is bad for SMB as they have JMF who is currently their best player, and with that, SMB will easily dominate the paint as these two rivals will now help each other to dominate.
Those are just rumors but there could be a basis and insider regarding that transfer. But as long as there's no actual post and announcement from that rumor, let it remain as a rumor.
But if that's for real and SMB really wants to take those two, then that won't be stopped if it's the management that has decided to take them on their roster.

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July 09, 2021, 08:38:27 PM
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Have you heard about the new rules of PBA about those expires contract players who will choose to play outside the country? or outside PBA? not sure yet but the punishments will take 5 years of waiting and fees to comeback and play with the league. I don't have the source though just seen it from some post inside FB.

If that is true then there's nothing we can do, but that is not good for the reputation of the league, why punished a  player for playing overseas when the purpose is just to get more compensation and have better competition? I think they should be proud of it instead if they really want to see our players develop their skills and achieve their dreams.
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July 09, 2021, 08:47:34 PM
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how true that Robert bolic is being recruited san, Miguel Beerman, I'm just curious about the trades that SMB corp is doing they want to be champions every season for the PBA? and what will be the team will receive in exchange for that player, I hope the PBA will change this kind of trade were in one team is stacking star players and the other team with bench players.

That's the rumors and the blockbuster trade starts with a rumor lol, so I believe that there is some truth on this.

Alex Cabagnot and Chris Ross in exchange for Greg Slaughter and Robert Bolick, is it fair? IMO, no it is not but NorthPort is always been the farm team of SMB Group of companies so I will not be surprised if one day I would wake up hearing this news.

Too many issues that the PBA is facing at the moment and it seems that they are dragging its feet underground and they don't seem to care about their supporters.
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how true that Robert bolic is being recruited san, Miguel Beerman, I'm just curious about the trades that SMB corp is doing they want to be champions every season for the PBA? and what will be the team will receive in exchange for that player, I hope the PBA will change this kind of trade were in one team is stacking star players and the other team with bench players.

That's the rumors and the blockbuster trade starts with a rumor lol, so I believe that there is some truth on this.

Alex Cabagnot and Chris Ross in exchange for Greg Slaughter and Robert Bolick, is it fair? IMO, no it is not but NorthPort is always been the farm team of SMB Group of companies so I will not be surprised if one day I would wake up hearing this news.

Too many issues that the PBA is facing at the moment and it seems that they are dragging its feet underground and they don't seem to care about their supporters.

Chris Ross (36 years old) and Alex Cabagnot (38 years old), that factor alone would tell that this trade is not fair, but as you said, since North Port is a farm team, this could happen anytime. They already sent C. stand to BGSM and now Greg to SMB, we know it's own by one company.

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July 09, 2021, 09:58:26 PM
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how true that Robert bolic is being recruited san, Miguel Beerman, I'm just curious about the trades that SMB corp is doing they want to be champions every season for the PBA? and what will be the team will receive in exchange for that player, I hope the PBA will change this kind of trade were in one team is stacking star players and the other team with bench players.

That's the rumors and the blockbuster trade starts with a rumor lol, so I believe that there is some truth on this.

Alex Cabagnot and Chris Ross in exchange for Greg Slaughter and Robert Bolick, is it fair? IMO, no it is not but NorthPort is always been the farm team of SMB Group of companies so I will not be surprised if one day I would wake up hearing this news.

Too many issues that the PBA is facing at the moment and it seems that they are dragging its feet underground and they don't seem to care about their supporters.

Chris Ross (36 years old) and Alex Cabagnot (38 years old), that factor alone would tell that this trade is not fair, but as you said, since North Port is a farm team, this could happen anytime. They already sent C. stand to BGSM and now Greg to SMB, we know it's own by one company.

I hope the SMB will give these two some respect and that is by letting them retire with SMB. With the big contribution they gave for SMB to win multiple championships, I think they deserved it, so I would not agree with this trade even if the rumor is true.



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July 09, 2021, 11:35:17 PM
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I hope the SMB will give these two some respect and that is by letting them retire with SMB. With the big contribution they gave for SMB to win multiple championships, I think they deserved it, so I would not agree with this trade even if the rumor is true.

Giving them respect can be done even they will trade these players.

If the trade rumor is true, SMB won't wait until these 2 players retire so right now, as both players currently still have some value, they will make a move to trade them for a young player.

And we know SMB can get their desire players if they want. It's not the first time. Even we disagree we should just go with the flow.
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July 09, 2021, 11:42:21 PM
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Reading some recent news revolving around the league, there are lots of positive news about the PBA re-opening. We can conclude now that there's no way it can be halted or delayed again so I can consider it now as official. There's a date now which is July 16, barely just less than a week now.

There's even a trailer for it: https://fb.watch/6EBQY7yLIA/

Since the vaccine rate within PBA players, families, and staff is one of the requirements, PBA mandates their players to get vaccinated. I just don't know how they able to encourage the other players that don't want to get vaccinated or maybe simply, they have no choice as they are paid to work, just like other employees.

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July 10, 2021, 12:09:26 AM
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I hope the SMB will give these two some respect and that is by letting them retire with SMB. With the big contribution they gave for SMB to win multiple championships, I think they deserved it, so I would not agree with this trade even if the rumor is true.

Giving them respect can be done even they will trade these players.

If the trade rumor is true, SMB won't wait until these 2 players retire so right now, as both players currently still have some value, they will make a move to trade them for a young player.

And we know SMB can get their desire players if they want. It's not the first time. Even we disagree we should just go with the flow.


Not sure about that thing, Respect ?  "Danny I" and "Dynamite Danny" both key players who really brings the very best out for this team, have they receive that respect?  Both key players retired their jersey playing outside SMB.

San Miguel always play with their money, so even this two pillars needs to trade out they don't have any options, money will speak for them.

And like what you have said, San Miguel always get whatever they wish, so if this rumors shown up only means that there's something behind that this team already cooking.

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how true that Robert bolic is being recruited san, Miguel Beerman, I'm just curious about the trades that SMB corp is doing they want to be champions every season for the PBA? and what will be the team will receive in exchange for that player, I hope the PBA will change this kind of trade were in one team is stacking star players and the other team with bench players.
I don't know exactly but I kinda believe that I've heard this rumor already months ago after the exclusive trade of CJ Perez.
After getting Perez, there are rumors that they want to get Bollick too but until now there are no signs that this will happen especially that Bollick is just coming back from his injury years ago.

I will not be surprised if this trade will happen though and it might "again" a controversial trade like what they did to CJ Perez. If this will happen, I'm thinking that they will do the same. Trading some bench players alongside draft picks just to get a future superstar which is we know, will never be equal.

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how true that Robert bolic is being recruited san, Miguel Beerman, I'm just curious about the trades that SMB corp is doing they want to be champions every season for the PBA? and what will be the team will receive in exchange for that player, I hope the PBA will change this kind of trade were in one team is stacking star players and the other team with bench players.
I don't know exactly but I kinda believe that I've heard this rumor already months ago after the exclusive trade of CJ Perez.
After getting Perez, there are rumors that they want to get Bollick too but until now there are no signs that this will happen especially that Bollick is just coming back from his injury years ago.

I will not be surprised if this trade will happen though and it might "again" a controversial trade like what they did to CJ Perez. If this will happen, I'm thinking that they will do the same. Trading some bench players alongside draft picks just to get a future superstar which is we know, will never be equal.

Northport would not agree to receive a bench player for these two players unless they are a farm team, they will not make it obvious, maybe SMB will send some of their veterans to Northport, I hope they'll send Arwind Santos, lol.

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PBA teams can once again make trades starting Monday

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PBA teams can still make trades before the 46th season begins on Friday.

Commissioner Willie Marcial said PBA squads can once again make trade deals beginning Monday, 12 noon – a few days before the 2021 season will be held at the Ynares Sports Arena in Pasig City.

This is it, we will soon know if the rumor is true about the big trade of the SMB team.

The names on the rumors are Bollick, Greg, Cabagnot, and Ross, we will find it out soon, just keep follow the PBA news.
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PBA teams can still make trades before the 46th season begins on Friday.

Commissioner Willie Marcial said PBA squads can once again make trade deals beginning Monday, 12 noon – a few days before the 2021 season will be held at the Ynares Sports Arena in Pasig City.

This is it, we will soon know if the rumor is true about the big trade of the SMB team.

The names on the rumors are Bollick, Greg, Cabagnot, and Ross, we will find it out soon, just keep follow the PBA news.

Let see if they will reveal this rumors and if this kind of deals will materialized, knowing how SMB influences this league the chance is really high

if they are serious in taking this trade.

Globalport as a farm franchise, it's easy for this team to let go of their assets, they are no longer aiming for improvement, unlike before when they still have Romeo and Pringle.
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PBA teams can still make trades before the 46th season begins on Friday.

Commissioner Willie Marcial said PBA squads can once again make trade deals beginning Monday, 12 noon – a few days before the 2021 season will be held at the Ynares Sports Arena in Pasig City.

This is it, we will soon know if the rumor is true about the big trade of the SMB team.

The names on the rumors are Bollick, Greg, Cabagnot, and Ross, we will find it out soon, just keep follow the PBA news.

Let see if they will reveal this rumors and if this kind of deals will materialized, knowing how SMB influences this league the chance is really high

if they are serious in taking this trade.

Globalport as a farm franchise, it's easy for this team to let go of their assets, they are no longer aiming for improvement, unlike before when they still have Romeo and Pringle.

They could have traded those two easily but Romeo and Pringle stay with the Northport for a while until they got traded.
Romeo's journey is quite interesting as he was traded with TNT but eventually got traded to SMB, while on Pringle, he was directly traded to BGSM.

Hard to tell as these "farm thing" are just rumors but what's happening is pointing out that rumors could be true.

The question now is, will SMB still a beatable team if they have a healthy Bollic and Greg  Slaughter?
If the answer is not, then PBA is not interesting anymore.
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The question now is, will SMB still a beatable team if they have a healthy Bollic and Greg  Slaughter?
If the answer is not, then PBA is not interesting anymore.

Of course, because they are just humans, they make mistakes as well and I think it always boils down to the chemistry of the team. Even if they form a super team but without chemistry, they'll not succeed with it, we've seen a lot in the NBA and it's not guaranteed.

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The question now is, will SMB still a beatable team if they have a healthy Bollic and Greg  Slaughter?
If the answer is not, then PBA is not interesting anymore.

Of course, because they are just humans, they make mistakes as well and I think it always boils down to the chemistry of the team. Even if they form a super team but without chemistry, they'll not succeed with it, we've seen a lot in the NBA and it's not guaranteed.

I agree, even though they are a strong team on papers but still they are humans and having that kind of lineup still has problems.

Just like when CStand went to SMB, many of us think that SMB will be the automatic champion as they are a very strong team on papers but it doesn't translate on the court because of chemistry issues.

But the good thing about this Fajardo-Slaughter tandem in the future is that they knew each other very well and they will set aside their ego and just play hard to win championships, unlike CStand that demanded a longer playing time.
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PBA teams can still make trades before the 46th season begins on Friday.

Commissioner Willie Marcial said PBA squads can once again make trade deals beginning Monday, 12 noon – a few days before the 2021 season will be held at the Ynares Sports Arena in Pasig City.

This is it, we will soon know if the rumor is true about the big trade of the SMB team.

The names on the rumors are Bollick, Greg, Cabagnot, and Ross, we will find it out soon, just keep follow the PBA news.
Interesting trades will happen again and the super teams will get their best players to collaborate with each other again. And one thing that's being anticipated and that is to have those best players on one boat and that's likely to happen again. That's what we see most of the time from conference to conference. If the rumor is true then I'll start to believe with 50% with good rumors in the future because it seems that these rumors are really coming from an accurate source. I won't say an official source but that's likely.

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Hard to tell as these "farm thing" are just rumors but what's happening is pointing out that rumors could be true.

It will remain a rumor forever as obviously, there's no way a farm team can be determined. The negotiations are always under the table and that's what part of PBA politics. Lots of questionable trades since then with SMB franchises as the most who takes an advantage.

Anyhow, it doesn't mean that these farm teams will intentionally not be aggressive in their bid to take the title. It's just that, players from these farm teams are not improving to have a stand in the competition.

The question now is, will SMB still a beatable team if they have a healthy Bollic and Greg  Slaughter?
If the answer is not, then PBA is not interesting anymore.

Of course, they are still a beatable team. Upset happened.

It's just that SMB will surely hard to handle.

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Teams can start negotiating for a trade tomorrow as what is said in the article below. Will the Slaughter-Bolick and Ross-Cabagnot trade will be tackle on Monday? That remain to be seen but one for sure, Jio Jalalon will be traded i think with his latest caper of playing a game outside of the PBA without the knowledge of his mother team.


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Jalalon will be traded? To what team?

I think he is very useful to Magnolia as he brings a lot of energy on the floor, with him playing with Calvin Abueva, this team will be better.
If that is part of the sanction by the management of Magnolia, then there's nothing to do as attitude is very important and they could decide anything they think that is best for the team.

Teams can start negotiating for a trade tomorrow as what is said in the article below. Will the Slaughter-Bolick and Ross-Cabagnot trade will be tackle on Monday? That remain to be seen but one for sure, Jio Jalalon will be traded i think with his latest caper of playing a game outside of the PBA without the knowledge of his mother team.


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