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March 28, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
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It's killing our excitement.

PBA opening shrouded in uncertainty as teams stop practice under ECQ

Luzon now is under ECQ, back to the previous situation, maybe if PBA would really push through, they might again create a bubble set up.

What do you think about this update? Is there a chance PBA will open its new season next month?

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March 28, 2021, 11:51:04 AM
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It's killing our excitement.

PBA opening shrouded in uncertainty as teams stop practice under ECQ

Luzon now is under ECQ, back to the previous situation, maybe if PBA would really push through, they might again create a bubble set up.

What do you think about this update? Is there a chance PBA will open its new season next month?

Sad to see this as the cases are now continuously rising so expect that they will suspend this since NCR is so badly hit by new strains so I expect that this will take long time as the vaccine is not rolling out to the citizen. Hopefully the cases will lower down so that we can see our usual games rolling on its right place.

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March 28, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
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It's killing our excitement.

PBA opening shrouded in uncertainty as teams stop practice under ECQ

Luzon now is under ECQ, back to the previous situation, maybe if PBA would really push through, they might again create a bubble set up.

What do you think about this update? Is there a chance PBA will open its new season next month?

Sad to see this as the cases are now continuously rising so expect that they will suspend this since NCR is so badly hit by new strains so I expect that this will take long time as the vaccine is not rolling out to the citizen. Hopefully the cases will lower down so that we can see our usual games rolling on its right place.
Let's hope for that as we are anticipating the return of the PBA next month. The timing was really bad, but we have to understand that the government are making everything to at least minimize the rate per day which is rising badly. If it will be in bubble, so bet it, and I hope PBA has the funds to run it successfully as no gate entrance means less revenue.

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March 28, 2021, 12:59:02 PM
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It's killing our excitement.

PBA opening shrouded in uncertainty as teams stop practice under ECQ

Luzon now is under ECQ, back to the previous situation, maybe if PBA would really push through, they might again create a bubble set up.

What do you think about this update? Is there a chance PBA will open its new season next month?
With the vaccines coming into our country, people are becoming more complacent and overconfident that they are forgetting the protocols that are being imposed.

Now the PBA restart has been postponed because of the ECQ and if this will continue even after this one week ECQ, there is a possibility that the start of the PBA season this year will be postponed again and the worst case scenario is that they will not push through this year.

Regarding the chances if they will open new season this month?? I don't think so knowing that the cases is increasing (steady 9,000 for 3 straight days I think). In the next few months possible if the cases will go down.

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March 28, 2021, 01:11:41 PM
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I calculated and divided monthly, the result is Paras is getting 125k pesos per month, I guess not too big based on his financial status now.

He don't need that money in terms of financial as even he won't work he can get that from his dad's allowance. Sir Benjie have 100's of millions in his pocket having few kids to inherit those money that amount is nothing.

Andre only needs to have exposure and maybe inside him the call of loving this sport is really pumping. Roll Eyes




It's killing our excitement.

PBA opening shrouded in uncertainty as teams stop practice under ECQ

Luzon now is under ECQ, back to the previous situation, maybe if PBA would really push through, they might again create a bubble set up.

What do you think about this update? Is there a chance PBA will open its new season next month?

No other option, if this lockdown continue the attempt of having new normal setup won't work, they'll be force to proceed and create new bubble set up just to cotinue this league.

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March 28, 2021, 10:16:07 PM
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I calculated and divided monthly, the result is Paras is getting 125k pesos per month, I guess not too big based on his financial status now.

He don't need that money in terms of financial as even he won't work he can get that from his dad's allowance. Sir Benjie have 100's of millions in his pocket having few kids to inherit those money that amount is nothing.

Andre only needs to have exposure and maybe inside him the call of loving this sport is really pumping. Roll Eyes


I'm sure they also have businesses too and Andre has also made millions being an actor.

Hopefully we will see that love of sports in Black Water as this team really need to start winning if they don't want to be continuously criticize.

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And for Andre Paras, P3M for 2 year was already a good deal for him. It could be more than what he's earning in showbiz but overtime it will grow if he performs well.

Yeah right, it depends from how he will perform and what would be the fate of his team, there's always opportunities if he and

the whole squad perform well, maybe additional bonuses will applies to everyone.
As for individual performance, I think that he is going to do good.
Additional bonuses are given when they are performing good and that is common for known good teams but I do not know how it is going for BlackWater.

Blackwater might have some bonus system as well but compared to the bigger names in the PBA like the SMB and TNT, I guess Blackwater bonuses are too small, also, this team is not a championship material, they have not improve and they don't compete very well against the championship team.

In short, they are like a decoy in the PBA, they play for fun and without a goal to be in the championship.

Prove me wrong!
There's nothing to prove to you that you're wrong, chill. It's very known that Blackwater isn't a champion-caliber and likely adopting aspiring superstars and hone them to be more competitive in the future.
As I've said, that it's usual for teams to give bonuses if the player had played and probably if they've seen improved.

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I calculated and divided monthly, the result is Paras is getting 125k pesos per month, I guess not too big based on his financial status now.

He don't need that money in terms of financial as even he won't work he can get that from his dad's allowance. Sir Benjie have 100's of millions in his pocket having few kids to inherit those money that amount is nothing.

Andre only needs to have exposure and maybe inside him the call of loving this sport is really pumping. Roll Eyes


I'm sure they also have businesses too and Andre has also made millions being an actor.

Hopefully we will see that love of sports in Black Water as this team really need to start winning if they don't want to be continuously criticize.
Passion lead Andre to join the draft pick this year and luckily he got by the Blackwater. Money isn't the main reason why he joined but his love into the game that lead him Smiley. A win-win situation for both Andre and the management. Andre got into the PBA and the Management has him as an advertiser of their product too.

He maybe love the game in general but it doesn't change the fact that Blackwater has been used by other big companies as a farming team. I still can't forget how the hell they traded Ray Parks into some players that aren't comparable with his performance. They still aren't a championship caliber at least for now but if they will continue to make trades like that then they will never be a championship contender at all.

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March 29, 2021, 01:12:41 PM
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I calculated and divided monthly, the result is Paras is getting 125k pesos per month, I guess not too big based on his financial status now.

He don't need that money in terms of financial as even he won't work he can get that from his dad's allowance. Sir Benjie have 100's of millions in his pocket having few kids to inherit those money that amount is nothing.

Andre only needs to have exposure and maybe inside him the call of loving this sport is really pumping. Roll Eyes


I'm sure they also have businesses too and Andre has also made millions being an actor.

Hopefully we will see that love of sports in Black Water as this team really need to start winning if they don't want to be continuously criticize.
Passion lead Andre to join the draft pick this year and luckily he got by the Blackwater. Money isn't the main reason why he joined but his love into the game that lead him Smiley. A win-win situation for both Andre and the management. Andre got into the PBA and the Management has him as an advertiser of their product too.

He maybe love the game in general but it doesn't change the fact that Blackwater has been used by other big companies as a farming team. I still can't forget how the hell they traded Ray Parks into some players that aren't comparable with his performance. They still aren't a championship caliber at least for now but if they will continue to make trades like that then they will never be a championship contender at all.

Yes, Ray Parks has made the team interesting to watch, but look what happened, they shift him to TNT and there he was contributing as their main scorer. I don't know if they can still get a player like Ray Parks, maybe if they'll go after him again since TNT seem to be dumping him.

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March 29, 2021, 02:58:18 PM
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Yes, Ray Parks has made the team interesting to watch, but look what happened, they shift him to TNT and there he was contributing as their main scorer. I don't know if they can still get a player like Ray Parks, maybe if they'll go after him again since TNT seem to be dumping him.

If that possible maybe that's a good addition to them, though Ray Parks issue might be to personal and it's tough since nto just
TNT but the PBA itself are the one that concern with his concern.

They are not paying attention or they are not willing to allocate that budget to bring someone who can lift them up the same
way Parks did.

He bring it up but the team sent him to TNT.

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Talking about Ray Parks, I've seen articles that he said that he's ready to stay away from basketball. After the issue about him, that seems to be a good move for him to avoid further criticism that he's getting lately.

Passion lead Andre to join the draft pick this year and luckily he got by the Blackwater. Money isn't the main reason why he joined but his love into the game that lead him Smiley. A win-win situation for both Andre and the management. Andre got into the PBA and the Management has him as an advertiser of their product too.
Yeah right, two roles for him as they acquired him.

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Talking about Ray Parks, I've seen articles that he said that he's ready to stay away from basketball. After the issue about him, that seems to be a good move for him to avoid further criticism that he's getting lately.

He better do so, maybe try his luck to other places as he got the talent and he's still young.

This place might be no longer open for him as there are lots of controversial and lots of politics where for sure he won't be able to overcome.





Passion lead Andre to join the draft pick this year and luckily he got by the Blackwater. Money isn't the main reason why he joined but his love into the game that lead him Smiley. A win-win situation for both Andre and the management. Andre got into the PBA and the Management has him as an advertiser of their product too.
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Yeah right, two roles for him as they acquired him.

Absolutely! free advertisement while he's carrying the franchise name,. For sure they'll use this also to bring him in their TV ads.
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Talking about Ray Parks, I've seen articles that he said that he's ready to stay away from basketball. After the issue about him, that seems to be a good move for him to avoid further criticism that he's getting lately.

He better do so, maybe try his luck to other places as he got the talent and he's still young.

This place might be no longer open for him as there are lots of controversial and lots of politics where for sure he won't be able to overcome.
Yeah, no doubt about it. He still has a long way to go for his basketball career but we're just waiting on what would be the next move towards him or if there will be a twist and he'll just go back, we don't know.
Politics is sure everywhere and included in the league. I remember some of the players that have voiced it out and then silenced later by the management but wishing him well wherever he's going.

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Luzon now is under ECQ, back to the previous situation, maybe if PBA would really push through, they might again create a bubble set up.

What do you think about this update? Is there a chance PBA will open its new season next month?

Just a bit correction, it's not Luzon but only on a few provinces including the Metro Manila, wherein now become a hotspot. Yes, there's always a chance that PBA will commence next month but that would be held at those regions with light restrictions.

But as far as my own observation is concerned, PBA won't push through next month if they will stick to their plan of doing it within the NRC PLUS. Hard to imagine a sudden decline of the confirmed cases within just a month.

And not just the restrictions but as per the article, there are numbers of players that tested positive with the virus resulting in some delays.

Talking about Ray Parks, I've seen articles that he said that he's ready to stay away from basketball. After the issue about him, that seems to be a good move for him to avoid further criticism that he's getting lately.

Fewer talks, fewer mistakes.

Good decision to shut his mouth amid criticism.

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March 29, 2021, 10:28:47 PM
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And not just the restrictions but as per the article, there are numbers of players that tested positive with the virus resulting in some delays.

I guess its alright at least they know it before they start the new season.

USA has been hard by the corona virus and yet they still resume the NBA, maybe if they can follow the same set up then they can open the new season next month, a bubble would be the last option but an NB like set up is way better, PBA can even minimize the risk against the virus since they don't travel much  like  the NBA players.

I think they should carefully plan this one, because if not, the season might be pause again due to the covid...

They were successful in the bubble, so definitely they know already what to do and the pandemic is already more than a year now so its expected we learn a lot from it and how to handle it.

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They were successful in the bubble, so definitely they know already what to do and the pandemic is already more than a year now so its expected we learn a lot from it and how to handle it.

Agree. And they don't have to wait for Metro Manila or Rizal (since they planned to use Ynares) to become less restricted or shifted into MGCQ if they planned to open next month but instead, take again the option of doing a bubble setup on the province.

Inside the bubble, if they can do it early, teams will still have time to do the practice which is now halted because it's not allowed now to do so in the Metro. For revenue, then no choice again but to accept that it won't be that much.

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I just remembered a few days ago as I have seen in the news that Phoenix is really struggling financially due to the pandemic as the main reason. They are now at the point of selling their other assets to manage their debts.

I think we can relate it to what happened in their PBA team, Phoenix Fuel Masters wherein after successfully signing Calvin Abueva into a max contract of PhP15M Salary and now a done deal over a month ago, it's a big surprise that they traded him. Cost-cutting indeed.

But the good news is, they assured everyone that they won't leave PBA. So unfortunate as I really eyeing for a non-SMC team to be one of the contenders in the All-Filipino Cup. We see how they explode even without Abueva during the bubble.

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March 29, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
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Talking about Ray Parks, I've seen articles that he said that he's ready to stay away from basketball. After the issue about him, that seems to be a good move for him to avoid further criticism that he's getting lately.

Fewer talks, fewer mistakes.

Good decision to shut his mouth amid criticism.
True. If ever he's going to come out with an official statement, he should do it but he has to take his time for it so that every word he say will have some sense or if he's ever feeling sorry, he should express it with remorse.

I think we can relate it to what happened in their PBA team, Phoenix Fuel Masters wherein after successfully signing Calvin Abueva into a max contract of $15M Salary and now a done deal over a month ago, it's a big surprise that they traded him. Cost-cutting indeed.
That's a dollar sign mate.  Tongue
But yeah, this pandemic has made them struggle and they need to cut the cost so that they can still move forward with their franchise.

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PBA should just push the bubble setup.

After this week's ECQ, I think it will be extended or if not, there's still a high restriction regarding sports events that may last up to a month.

Or PBA can still take a longer break to make good preparations and use the target date for Governors Cup instead which is around June or July.
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Bad news for Ray Parks I believe.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/sadly-rayray-parks-is-at-the-mercy-of-tnt-and-the-pba-a2244-20210324?ref=feed_1_section

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During the SPIN.ph Rumor or Fact livecast two days ago, word leaked that TNT will keep the disgruntled star's rights with little or no intention of letting him play in the MVP Group or elsewhere.

In other words, Ray Ray won't be dribbling the official PBA ball - Molten - anytime soon. He will be left on the sidelines agonizing over this alleged blackballing.

Looks like MVP and the PBA is giving him a serious management, they doesn't like what Ray Parks did, so is it good Ray Parks in the PBA?
This is almost the same as the Jericho Cruz issue back years ago when he is still in TNT too and since Ray Parks has a contract with the team, he will suffer the consequences for his wrongdoings.

A very talented player but very unprofessional. He is playing in a professional league so he must play professionally too but his attitudes killed his career. Although its too early to say for that but the fact that MVP doesn't want him to play elsewhere or the PBA ball is a proof that his career might be affected with this.

PBA should just push the bubble setup.

After this week's ECQ, I think it will be extended or if not, there's still a high restriction regarding sports events that may last up to a month.

Or PBA can still take a longer break to make good preparations and use the target date for Governors Cup instead which is around June or July.
Although this is possible, in the end it will depend on the Board of Directors of the league and Comm. Marcial himself.

TBH, it will be risky for the league if they will push to start the season at least for now that the cases are surging. They might do what they did last year that it will just be a one season year so that at least they can finish one conference for this year. On the other hand, if there will be signs of case decrease in the next months they might push through it and start the season immediately.

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