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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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July 15, 2021, 11:14:56 PM
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That's a fact. Actually, I posted that too before that prior pandemic, PBA audience is not that great except when BGSM is on the playoffs to Finals or any teams at the Finals. However, it's not that games will always be boring, like for example it's not always NorthPort vs DYIP or BlackWater vs NLEX lol, so expect that there will still some people who will watch the game live.

And for the record, last 2019, I able to watch 6 games live at the venue, even watching those farms teams, since like I mentioned, I was nearby Ynares and Smart-Araneta in Cubao. It's only on MOA Area that I'm not able to watch live because I don't want to travel there during rush hour. About 25-30 minutes travel time from our home on usual traffic. Yes, the crowd is sometimes few especially on 1st game even it's Ginebra.  And sometimes free tickets are given to us (one of my friends is working in....) so take the opportunity, always at Upper B for free tickets but a good spot already for a good view. Smiley
Although the coliseum is accessible on my end and I can travel, I just don't want to be a warrior in the middle of the traffic, that's really common on the roads near to Smart Araneta but that's a good experience of you. I've got a friend too before that has offered free tickets because he's working for a certain company that gives out those tickets, maybe that's an incentive but sadly it wasn't pushed. I think I've watched games before, live but I can't remember those particular games because I was still young but I remember that I saw coach Tim Cone personally.

So with all you guys are saying, PBA is not that so popular now that people really want to watch and pay for the ticket. I guess they'll only make big sales during the playoffs or the PBA Finals, especially if the teams that are playing are big teams like Ginebra, SMB, Magnolia and TNT, let's include Meralco.
I'm not saying that it's not popular. It's still popular and I'm satisfied unlike the others that have said it, they feel that it's boring this time and that's what they feel. Usually, that's what is happening when the conference is about to end and it's like the semis or playoffs, that's really getting the attention of the fans. We mostly are skipping those usual games just like in NBA but there's a huge difference if we're going to compare it to them as their people are really supporting the teams and games.

Can't blame other to say PBA is boring since honestly they are not doing a good for  the past couple of years there are so many issues like a company recruiting and building super team without any interference and other issues towards the league and actually we can see  that number of fans are slowly decreasing so they must really address that before this PBA will collapsed. I know this is far to happen but if they continue to act unfair to other teams well most provably this bad thoughts will provably happen.

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July 15, 2021, 11:48:18 PM
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I miss those days where the big crowds are allowed. In other countries, they have already allowed a large audience to the venue. I'm sure not all people there are vaccinated and they still have lots of confirmed cases everyday makes me think that virus treats as a business Cheesy It's more tolerable compare to before and seems like ordinary flu.

I'm expecting the PBA will run smoothly since last year, even in a strict bubble setup, some people inside still got contracted with the virus.
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I've now found the answer to my small question, there will be no audience at the venue. The PBA doesn't like to follow yet the other countries doings even with a limited capacity. They will just consider it once the situation in Metro Manila improves so in my own view, that will be next year. They are also discouraged by the IATF to not allow spectators on the game even with a limited capacity.
 
But Marcial hinted that who knows in the playoffs of the second conference, they will now allow small spectators. It means after the All-Filipino Cup, there might be a chance to continue to the second conference since looking at the game schedule, it will end on August 27. If we will estimate it, the All-Filipino Cup will end in September.

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July 16, 2021, 02:19:25 AM
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I've now found the answer to my small question, there will be no audience at the venue. The PBA doesn't like to follow yet the other countries doings even with a limited capacity. They will just consider it once the situation in Metro Manila improves so in my own view, that will be next year. They are also discouraged by the IATF to not allow spectators on the game even with a limited capacity.
 
But Marcial hinted that who knows in the playoffs of the second conference, they will now allow small spectators. It means after the All-Filipino Cup, there might be a chance to continue to the second conference since looking at the game schedule, it will end on August 27. If we will estimate it, the All-Filipino Cup will end in September.
The IATF are too strict and remember the PBA is having a hard time to get the permit so I don't think live audience is really possible now even on the next conference, but hopefully we can achieve the herd immunity this year we might have a chance if ever. The Volleyball game will also begin this weekend without live audience, PBA also have to do the same and follow all the IATF protocols, still good to see them back in action.

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July 16, 2021, 04:35:26 AM
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The first game will start soon.

I'm looking for free live streaming, hopefully, Onesport facebook account will give live streaming for this game.
have you placed your bets already? I'm a bit late and I didn't see the special odds anymore, I got the first game under 186.5, and blackwater winning the game.

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July 16, 2021, 05:25:15 AM
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The first game will start soon.

I'm looking for free live streaming, hopefully, Onesport facebook account will give live streaming for this game.
have you placed your bets already? I'm a bit late and I didn't see the special odds anymore, I got the first game under 186.5, and blackwater winning the game.

Unfortunately, there's no live streaming in this game, I think they prefer not to show it so we will just watch on our TV, and that advertisers will benefit more. I don't know really, this is the first time after many seasons that PBA has no live streaming.

First, they took out the youtube live stream, now they took away facebook live.
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The first game will start soon.

I'm looking for free live streaming, hopefully, Onesport facebook account will give live streaming for this game.
have you placed your bets already? I'm a bit late and I didn't see the special odds anymore, I got the first game under 186.5, and blackwater winning the game.

Unfortunately, there's no live streaming in this game, I think they prefer not to show it so we will just watch on our TV, and that advertisers will benefit more. I don't know really, this is the first time after many seasons that PBA has no live streaming.

First, they took out the youtube live stream, now they took away facebook live.
I agree with this. The revenue of the league has already affected because of this pandemic and they will not like that their revenues from advertisements will be decreased too because of live streams.
Well, its good that we fixed our television days before the start of the league so.. yeah I can watch some games still Smiley.

First game is over and the Aces won against the BlackWater Bossing 103-77. A one sided match indeed. I don't know if I'm the only one who thought about it but the roster of the BW Bossing isn't a championship caliber. Like see their roster, no superstar, just all average players that is why when I saw this roster on FB I already saw some comments telling that this team will be in the last spot on the eliminations. I'm not belittling them still but just seeing their roster, I don't know if they will be able to enter at least to the playoffs. Any takeaways??

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First game is over and the Aces won against the BlackWater Bossing 103-77. A one sided match indeed. I don't know if I'm the only one who thought about it but the roster of the BW Bossing isn't a championship caliber. Like see their roster, no superstar, just all average players that is why when I saw this roster on FB I already saw some comments telling that this team will be in the last spot on the eliminations. I'm not belittling them still but just seeing their roster, I don't know if they will be able to enter at least to the playoffs. Any takeaways??

I expect Alaska would win but I didn't expect it will be a blowout win by the Alaska Aces. Blackwater is not a championship team, it's okay to belittle them anyway as rumors said they are just a farm team, so they don't have a superstar. This team was only fun to watch when Ray Parks was still playing, but now he's gone in this team, and in the PBA, they are now a boring team.

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The first game will start soon.

I'm looking for free live streaming, hopefully, Onesport facebook account will give live streaming for this game.
have you placed your bets already? I'm a bit late and I didn't see the special odds anymore, I got the first game under 186.5, and blackwater winning the game.

Unfortunately, there's no live streaming in this game, I think they prefer not to show it so we will just watch on our TV, and that advertisers will benefit more. I don't know really, this is the first time after many seasons that PBA has no live streaming.

First, they took out the youtube live stream, now they took away facebook live.
I agree with this. The revenue of the league has already affected because of this pandemic and they will not like that their revenues from advertisements will be decreased too because of live streams.
Well, its good that we fixed our television days before the start of the league so.. yeah I can watch some games still Smiley.


I did not subscribe to cable TV anymore as my kids are just using youtube and Netflix whenever they watch shows on our TV. For me, I'm comfortable with just watching through my PC as I also have some online jobs, so that free live streaming is very useful to me. I guess if they have a premium for online streaming, I would be willing to pay just to watch it and be comfortable at the same time.
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^^ Odds for tomorrow's game between Magnolia and NorthPorth.

Just like to share because for me this is very attractive if you bet for the Hotshots. Batang Pier was totally dominated by the Bolts and they must be playing tired tomorrow because of this back-to-back game. Clearly, the Batang Pier missed the service of Greg Slaughter but I think he won't be playing for a while for them as he is currently in the US for his vaccination (what a lame excuse lol).

Who's with me on betting for the Hotshots, -3.5 HC is not too high and if Magnolia wins they sure will cover this.
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July 16, 2021, 01:31:13 PM
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Who's with me on betting for the Hotshots, -3.5 HC is not too high and if Magnolia wins they sure will cover this.

I'm with you as I love to see Calvin Abueva winning his first game in hotshots uniform.

We only have 2 games tomorrow, the first game should be boring as I think TNT will have an easy win here.

Magnolia vs Phoenix should be a great one and since I believe Magnolia is the better team, they should cover and win.

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July 16, 2021, 01:53:28 PM
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Who's with me on betting for the Hotshots, -3.5 HC is not too high and if Magnolia wins they sure will cover this.

I'm with you as I love to see Calvin Abueva winning his first game in hotshots uniform.

We only have 2 games tomorrow, the first game should be boring as I think TNT will have an easy win here.

Magnolia vs Phoenix should be a great one and since I believe Magnolia is the better team, they should cover and win.

Phoenix may not have Calvin anymore but they have two big guys who can dominate the paint, let us not forget that they have Vic Manuel already and this guy is still playing well, he is called the muscle man in the PBA, he will muscle his way in while Wright keeps his shooting stable.

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July 16, 2021, 02:06:15 PM
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Welcome to the PBA, 1st day is successfully complicated but unfortunately, I was not able to watch the game live on my TV since I got a busy day.
I read that there's no live streaming anymore, that's very disappointing as most of us are looking for a live stream especially if we are busy at our office.

It's nice that the odds are available early.

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July 16, 2021, 02:50:22 PM
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It's nice that the odds are available early.
Because the games are early, odds are early as well, we have a lot of time analyzing the game and we can bet early if we want, yes, it's a nice thing.

1st game
Tropang Giga -7.5 against DYIP
I'll take the TNT here, DYIP does not have their star player already, CJ Perez shifted to SMB, so I doubt they can compete with the TNT.

2nd game
Magnolia -3.5 against Phoenix

Magnolia spread is very attractive, they are a strong team and with Calvin, they'll get better.

I like the under as well as both teams will certainly play good defense against each other.
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July 16, 2021, 04:47:42 PM
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Magnolia spread is very attractive, they are a strong team and with Calvin, they'll get better.

I like the under as well as both teams will certainly play good defense against each other.

Agree with you, Abueva's departure to this team may have a big impact, while with the Phoenix where Wright is unsure to perform with the same level that he have from the bubble.

That handicap is very possible being covered, though it's just the first game and knowing PBA and those rumors behind  Roll Eyes Grin who knows favorite might suffer  losses in their first games.

Good luck PBA fans! Wink

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July 16, 2021, 05:36:54 PM
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I've now found the answer to my small question, there will be no audience at the venue. The PBA doesn't like to follow yet the other countries doings even with a limited capacity. They will just consider it once the situation in Metro Manila improves so in my own view, that will be next year. They are also discouraged by the IATF to not allow spectators on the game even with a limited capacity.
 
But Marcial hinted that who knows in the playoffs of the second conference, they will now allow small spectators. It means after the All-Filipino Cup, there might be a chance to continue to the second conference since looking at the game schedule, it will end on August 27. If we will estimate it, the All-Filipino Cup will end in September.
That was actually a good decision since there's the news that it's now inside our country the new and more contagious variant, the delta variant. As long as we get to watch the upcoming games even with no live audience, that would already be a win for us, fans to see the league back.
It's only Rain or Shine and Nlex Road Warriors that got a close game. Well, at least we've seen some starting games and this only shows that the long wait is over and more games to come.  Cool

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Unfortunately, there's no live streaming in this game, I think they prefer not to show it so we will just watch on our TV, and that advertisers will benefit more. I don't know really, this is the first time after many seasons that PBA has no live streaming.

The PBA live coverage on Facebook will be broadcasted on these pages:

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https://www.facebook.com/pusopilipinas

For TV5 during Wednesday and Friday games, they will only broadcast the 2nd and 3rd games due to conflict of schedule on the first game and their noontime show, Launch Out Loud. The same goes for Sunday games as the first game will again conflict with their noontime show, ASAP Natin to!.

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July 16, 2021, 07:19:45 PM
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Unfortunately, there's no live streaming in this game, I think they prefer not to show it so we will just watch on our TV, and that advertisers will benefit more. I don't know really, this is the first time after many seasons that PBA has no live streaming.

The PBA live coverage on Facebook will be broadcasted on these pages:

https://www.facebook.com/SMARTSportsPhilippines
https://www.facebook.com/pusopilipinas

For TV5 during Wednesday and Friday games, they will only broadcast the 2nd and 3rd games due to conflict of schedule on the first game and their noontime show, Launch Out Loud. The same goes for Sunday games as the first game will again conflict with their noontime show, ASAP Natin to!.

Glad to know that there's still online broadcast for those available games, Don't have much time to watch it from the TV as I mostly use my laptop to watch online while working.

I'll use those links and watch the games if I have some free time, very well with how bookies are bringing the odds this early for sure there
are many gamblers who are done placing their bets now, some might love watching live before placing their bets, observing how the teams are playing. Good Luck!

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July 16, 2021, 09:15:37 PM
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Unfortunately, there's no live streaming in this game, I think they prefer not to show it so we will just watch on our TV, and that advertisers will benefit more. I don't know really, this is the first time after many seasons that PBA has no live streaming.

The PBA live coverage on Facebook will be broadcasted on these pages:

https://www.facebook.com/SMARTSportsPhilippines
https://www.facebook.com/pusopilipinas

For TV5 during Wednesday and Friday games, they will only broadcast the 2nd and 3rd games due to conflict of schedule on the first game and their noontime show, Launch Out Loud. The same goes for Sunday games as the first game will again conflict with their noontime show, ASAP Natin to!.

Glad to know that there's still online broadcast for those available games, Don't have much time to watch it from the TV as I mostly use my laptop to watch online while working.

I'll use those links and watch the games if I have some free time, very well with how bookies are bringing the odds this early for sure there
are many gamblers who are done placing their bets now, some might love watching live before placing their bets, observing how the teams are playing. Good Luck!

I will bookmark this link, I thought we will not be able to watch these games live on our PC or laptop, but @harizen, you are a hero, thank you for sharing, we don't have to watch TV just to watch the game, now we can still enjoy even in front of our PC. 

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July 16, 2021, 11:07:36 PM
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I will bookmark this link, I thought we will not be able to watch these games live on our PC or laptop, but @harizen, you are a hero, thank you for sharing, we don't have to watch TV just to watch the game, now we can still enjoy even in front of our PC. 

The good thing with this coverage on Facebook is we still can watch the replay if we miss the live broadcast of those games. I'm not watching PBA games on TV5 anymore as it usually conflicts with my work schedule so I just go to Facebook and see those pages that broadcast them live. FB live has a lot of usage for us today especially those busy ones like me  Smiley.

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