2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Fredomago]

New NLEX player Trollano hopes to win another title with old coach, former teammates

Big dream! With the current line up of the NLEX, I doubt they will win a championship, oven reach the championship.
There best chance is only a conference with imports, not in the all Filipino cup.

The current lineup is not yet blended well, against those heavy favorites, BGSM,SMB, TNT and now Purefoods after acquiring Abueva.
NLEX needs more firepower though who knows with the possible bubble setup we can't conclude which team will dominate.

With Trollano, maybe he can bring some good sparks knowing how he's former coach works he can easily adjust.

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[blockman]

It's unfortunate that they are expecting a target of Php 640M last year but a pandemic happened:
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/02/01/1989554/pba-projects-income-p640-million

Huge target and I think that will be unrealistic if the set up is a bubble again.

Their sponsors were also badly hit by the pandemic and also catching up with the same situation. Too bad but it's understandable that everybody is dealing with the hardship made by the pandemic. But soon this shall pass and everything is going to come back normal again.
I'm sure that when things go back to normal, they will definitely watch a live match if it's already allowed.

It will take time, knowing how bad the economy has been hit by this pandemic. The leauge unable to collect their target and yes, if this same setup (bubble type) it's unrealistic to cover that amount.

But there's no other option if they  push this season, they'll be forced to use the same as last season. Better
than nothing though, we are all hoping for the best and for the season to start whatever setup the boards will use.

They also have the option to move the opening but that's probably not going to happen. They can always change their decision and put the best that they can.
If it's not possible, then they only have to tell and everyone will understand it. But I think, things have been set and we just have to wait what shall be the setup.

[Maslate]

New NLEX player Trollano hopes to win another title with old coach, former teammates

Big dream! With the current line up of the NLEX, I doubt they will win a championship, oven reach the championship.
There best chance is only a conference with imports, not in the all Filipino cup.

The current lineup is not yet blended well, against those heavy favorites, BGSM,SMB, TNT and now Purefoods after acquiring Abueva.
NLEX needs more firepower though who knows with the possible bubble setup we can't conclude which team will dominate.

With Trollano, maybe he can bring some good sparks knowing how he's former coach works he can easily adjust.

Trollana always play well regardless of what team he is playing, let's give him a chance, he maybe is hungry for a championship as I believe he does has not won any. Trollona is a hard working guy, he played with good defense and can also contribute to the team in offense, and Coach Yeng would not get him sign if he does not think he can help the team on their campaign to win a championship.

[Russlenat]

Count on Vic Manuel to attempt more three-pointers at Phoenix

If this will be successful, it's going ot be a more improve Vic Manuel.

I believe they are trying to make him like Justin Chua, a big man who can shoot 3s but haven't really seen Manuel making a lot of 3 points shots in his old team.

[Vaculin]

Count on Vic Manuel to attempt more three-pointers at Phoenix

If this will be successful, it's going ot be a more improve Vic Manuel.

I believe they are trying to make him like Justin Chua, a big man who can shoot 3s but haven't really seen Manuel making a lot of 3 points shots in his old team.

This would not be easy and I really think that Manuel's strength is inside so I guess he should take more shots inside than outside. if they want to be unpredictable, they should have a good players inside and outside, Perkins himself can shoot 3s and can play the inside but Manuel is different, he is just a veteran could can muscle his way inside to generate a points, that's why he is called the muscle man.

[LogitechMouse]

Count on Vic Manuel to attempt more three-pointers at Phoenix

If this will be successful, it's going ot be a more improve Vic Manuel.

I believe they are trying to make him like Justin Chua, a big man who can shoot 3s but haven't really seen Manuel making a lot of 3 points shots in his old team.

A player that is very strong at the paint and at the same time, a good three point shooter? Hello Giannis or Hello AD .

Well, this will be a big improvement for him if he will try to pull this one out in the league. We already know that despite of his height disadvantage over other bigs in the league, he is a great player inside the paint that is why he is "Muscle Man".

As per my opinion, the roster of Phoenix has already bigs that can shoot threes such as Perkins, Chua and Manuel if he will be. Like @vaculin said, he can just stay at the paint and just generate points out there and shooting threes for him isn't necessary since we saw him dominating the paint many times already all throughout his career but can't blame if the team wants him to shoot threes then so be it. Lets just see if this will be a success or a fail.

[Russlenat]

Count on Vic Manuel to attempt more three-pointers at Phoenix

If this will be successful, it's going ot be a more improve Vic Manuel.

I believe they are trying to make him like Justin Chua, a big man who can shoot 3s but haven't really seen Manuel making a lot of 3 points shots in his old team.

A player that is very strong at the paint and at the same time, a good three point shooter? Hello Giannis or Hello AD .

Well, this will be a big improvement for him if he will try to pull this one out in the league. We already know that despite of his height disadvantage over other bigs in the league, he is a great player inside the paint that is why he is "Muscle Man".

As per my opinion, the roster of Phoenix has already bigs that can shoot threes such as Perkins, Chua and Manuel if he will be. Like @vaculin said, he can just stay at the paint and just generate points out there and shooting threes for him isn't necessary since we saw him dominating the paint many times already all throughout his career but can't blame if the team wants him to shoot threes then so be it. Lets just see if this will be a success or a fail.

Probably the training for the Phoenix is for everyone, no exemption, every big man has to learn how to shoot 3s consistently so they are more dangerous, wat I admire most on the team is their defense, they have improve it already and I hope there will be more improvement in the season to come, if it will not be postponed due to the lockdown in some areas.

[blockman]

Count on Vic Manuel to attempt more three-pointers at Phoenix

If this will be successful, it's going ot be a more improve Vic Manuel.

I believe they are trying to make him like Justin Chua, a big man who can shoot 3s but haven't really seen Manuel making a lot of 3 points shots in his old team.

I think that it's going to be a good style if they'll improve Manuel's 3 point shooting. It's not enough if big guys are only under the ring but also if they can do outside shooting.

Probably the training for the Phoenix is for everyone, no exemption, every big man has to learn how to shoot 3s consistently so they are more dangerous, wat I admire most on the team is their defense, they have improve it already and I hope there will be more improvement in the season to come, if it will not be postponed due to the lockdown in some areas.

Let's all be positive that it will still going to continue despite the lockdown, seems that they have no choice to get into a bubble again. The cases are a lot reported today.

[Vaculin]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Barangay Ginebra also took interest in Andre Paras

Farm team mold players to prepare them and ship to a bigger team, and Paras father's dream is for him to be part of the popular ball club in the PBA, so this makes sense.

The 25-year-old Paras landing at Ginebra could have been the culmination of the long-time dream of Andre’s father, Benjie Paras, to be part of the family of the country’s most popular ballclub.

[blockman]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Yeah, that was already discussed, and verified that he's going to go with Blackwater Elite as his starting team after the team has drafted the team. And he's given a two-year contract on that team.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/blackwater-signs-paras-torralba-to-two-year-deals-acuno-to-one-season/204310)

[Maslate]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Yeah, that was already discussed, and verified that he's going to go with Blackwater Elite as his starting team after the team has drafted the team. And he's given a two-year contract on that team.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/blackwater-signs-paras-torralba-to-two-year-deals-acuno-to-one-season/204310)

I'm afraid if Ginebra is really intersted on him, he might be traded before the contract expires, and Andre is also eager to play with Ginebra as that was the dream. Hmmmm.... we are seeing this kind of trend, but let's just wait first and see how he will play, it's important that he will impress everyone and stay healthy to maintain his good value.

[blockman]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Yeah, that was already discussed, and verified that he's going to go with Blackwater Elite as his starting team after the team has drafted the team. And he's given a two-year contract on that team.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/blackwater-signs-paras-torralba-to-two-year-deals-acuno-to-one-season/204310)

I'm afraid if Ginebra is really intersted on him, he might be traded before the contract expires, and Andre is also eager to play with Ginebra as that was the dream. Hmmmm.... we are seeing this kind of trend, but let's just wait first and see how he will play, it's important that he will impress everyone and stay healthy to maintain his good value.

Yeah, that's possible. Blackwater will trade/sell him for a higher deal on Ginebra but that's okay. He's just starting out and he can enjoy wherever he is right now.
Everyone heard of the news about extended ECQ for a week? this will really affect the start of the season which should about to happen next week.

[Maslate]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Yeah, that was already discussed, and verified that he's going to go with Blackwater Elite as his starting team after the team has drafted the team. And he's given a two-year contract on that team.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/blackwater-signs-paras-torralba-to-two-year-deals-acuno-to-one-season/204310)

I'm afraid if Ginebra is really intersted on him, he might be traded before the contract expires, and Andre is also eager to play with Ginebra as that was the dream. Hmmmm.... we are seeing this kind of trend, but let's just wait first and see how he will play, it's important that he will impress everyone and stay healthy to maintain his good value.

Yeah, that's possible. Blackwater will trade/sell him for a higher deal on Ginebra but that's okay. He's just starting out and he can enjoy wherever he is right now.
Everyone heard of the news about extended ECQ for a week? this will really affect the start of the season which should about to happen next week.

That's how it is, the government are looking at the entire situation and there is a need for a strict measures, we should see some update from the PBA about this matter but as far as I read before, there's an article saying that the start of the PBA season is doubtful due to the ECQ. However, if they will really like to follow the schedule, they need to get back to the bubble set up.

[mirakal]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Yeah, that was already discussed, and verified that he's going to go with Blackwater Elite as his starting team after the team has drafted the team. And he's given a two-year contract on that team.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/blackwater-signs-paras-torralba-to-two-year-deals-acuno-to-one-season/204310)

I'm afraid if Ginebra is really intersted on him, he might be traded before the contract expires, and Andre is also eager to play with Ginebra as that was the dream. Hmmmm.... we are seeing this kind of trend, but let's just wait first and see how he will play, it's important that he will impress everyone and stay healthy to maintain his good value.

Yeah, that's possible. Blackwater will trade/sell him for a higher deal on Ginebra but that's okay. He's just starting out and he can enjoy wherever he is right now.
Everyone heard of the news about extended ECQ for a week? this will really affect the start of the season which should about to happen next week.

That's how it is, the government are looking at the entire situation and there is a need for a strict measures, we should see some update from the PBA about this matter but as far as I read before, there's an article saying that the start of the PBA season is doubtful due to the ECQ. However, if they will really like to follow the schedule, they need to get back to the bubble set up.

It's just strange that there's less updates now that the season is about to start, probably it will not push based on schedule as they might not have anticipated that the ECQ will be implemented. Maybe next week we will see some updates about the start, but let's not expect some good news, let's be realistic and understand the current situation.

[blockman]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Yeah, that was already discussed, and verified that he's going to go with Blackwater Elite as his starting team after the team has drafted the team. And he's given a two-year contract on that team.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/blackwater-signs-paras-torralba-to-two-year-deals-acuno-to-one-season/204310)

I'm afraid if Ginebra is really intersted on him, he might be traded before the contract expires, and Andre is also eager to play with Ginebra as that was the dream. Hmmmm.... we are seeing this kind of trend, but let's just wait first and see how he will play, it's important that he will impress everyone and stay healthy to maintain his good value.

Yeah, that's possible. Blackwater will trade/sell him for a higher deal on Ginebra but that's okay. He's just starting out and he can enjoy wherever he is right now.
Everyone heard of the news about extended ECQ for a week? this will really affect the start of the season which should about to happen next week.

That's how it is, the government are looking at the entire situation and there is a need for a strict measures, we should see some update from the PBA about this matter but as far as I read before, there's an article saying that the start of the PBA season is doubtful due to the ECQ. However, if they will really like to follow the schedule, they need to get back to the bubble set up.

Yeah, it's now doubtful because of the situation and more cases are always being reported which is hard to believe though. But that's it, the league's purpose won't come by this opening schedule, IMHO.
But we will see if they're going to have an alternative or they'll just simply move the opening.

[Fredomago]

Looks like we already have a hint when Andre will go after the Blackwater Elite.

Yeah, that was already discussed, and verified that he's going to go with Blackwater Elite as his starting team after the team has drafted the team. And he's given a two-year contract on that team.
(https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/blackwater-signs-paras-torralba-to-two-year-deals-acuno-to-one-season/204310)

I'm afraid if Ginebra is really intersted on him, he might be traded before the contract expires, and Andre is also eager to play with Ginebra as that was the dream. Hmmmm.... we are seeing this kind of trend, but let's just wait first and see how he will play, it's important that he will impress everyone and stay healthy to maintain his good value.

Maybe Ginebra is eyeing to have another vinz the prince type player! hahaha.. Kidding aside, it's his father dream but money is more
bigger than anything.

Shell offer him a franchise a contract that assures you for a lifetime business, from his era(Benjie Paras) that's really something
that you can't just ignore, maybe if Andre show something that triggered Ginebra's interest maybe this might happen, who knows
maybe he have that talent right?

[goinmerry]

If this will be successful, it's going ot be a more improve Vic Manuel.

I believe they are trying to make him like Justin Chua, a big man who can shoot 3s but haven't really seen Manuel making a lot of 3 points shots in his old team.

Not a good idea for me. Manuel is already on the veteran age and then this is just time to practice threes?

Practicing on three? For what? Why not just let him work on his main role where he is dominant. Again as I said, he's already past his prime so adjusting to a different position, where he is not used to be for several years, will be a difficult role for him.

Phoenix, not just being bankrupt, becomes out of nowhere of thinking.

[Russlenat]

If this will be successful, it's going ot be a more improve Vic Manuel.

I believe they are trying to make him like Justin Chua, a big man who can shoot 3s but haven't really seen Manuel making a lot of 3 points shots in his old team.

Not a good idea for me. Manuel is already on the veteran age and then this is just time to practice threes?

Practicing on three? For what? Why not just let him work on his main role where he is dominant. Again as I said, he's already past his prime so adjusting to a different position, where he is not used to be for several years, will be a difficult role for him.

It's even better if he would master a 3 point shoot because that would help him when he will not be as dominant as he was in the inside. There are big mans who can shoot 3s, maybe that's what the Phoenix are trying to achieve here, they want their big man to be versatile so they can contribute inside and outside. Manuel is known for his inside presence, but he is in a new team with different culture so he has to adjust.

Phoenix, not just being bankrupt, becomes out of nowhere of thinking.

Let's give them a chance to prove this year, maybe we are wrong then.

[mirakal]

Alex Mallari, Jay-R Reyes now free agents after Phoenix exit

We have free agents here, I don't know about Jay-R Reyes impact in a team but I guess Alex Mallari still has something to give in a team. Maybe some team could acquire him in free agency, he can be a good help especially in defense.

[blockman]

Alex Mallari, Jay-R Reyes now free agents after Phoenix exit

We have free agents here, I don't know about Jay-R Reyes impact in a team but I guess Alex Mallari still has something to give in a team. Maybe some team could acquire him in free agency, he can be a good help especially in defense.

I think many teams will go for Alex Mallari but whoever goes first or whoever goes with the best deal and contract, he's going to be there. But it's a higher chance that he's still going to be with a team after being a free agent.