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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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December 13, 2020, 08:20:08 AM
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Just the way I expected, it seems like Stanley Pringle will win the best player of the conference, his been a big factor of the team, a go to guy that is reliable, that's why I want to see him win the best player in the bubble, I think it's his first time to win in all Filipino cup as the best player of the conference.

Good for him, all the nominees for the best player of the conference are lucky not to have Fajardo in the all Filipino Cup, but once Fajardo comes back, and he is still the same player, he will again dominate and will the best player awards, especially in the All Filipino Cup.
I like to agree with this. He will again dominate once he comes back but his team (SMB) needs reshuffling for the upcoming season therefor his performance might get affected as well and worst case is he will not be as dominate as he was because of his past injury. The starting 5 age average of SMB is around 30+ years and they are going older and older. I'm an SMB fan but the team needs to get some young players from different teams for their future too.

The age is one of the big factor but let's see for one conference that they will play with a complete line up, I hope they won't depreciate. The thing is, their life is easy with Fajardo as he always dominate the rebounding department so shooters from SMB can shoot 3 points with high confidence, and the ball movement is just simple, inside out and vice versa until they can find an open man.

I don't agree with that, this is the first time that I saw the SMB struggles, and that is not because of the age but because they don't have Fajardo, they missed their star player so they struggled. Have you remembered last 2016 when they are in the Finals and they were down 1-3? That was because Fajardo was injured but when he came back, they have a big run and win the championship.

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Therefore, that is my basis, it's not the age, it's only an excuse of an awful performance but they will come back.

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December 13, 2020, 09:32:57 AM
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Let's stop this debate, we will see what would happen when PBA will start a new conference.

I'm not so familiar with the list of conferences but I believe only one conference where there's no import and that was the recently concluded conference, so what conference will be next, what its called and where there will be imports already? are they allowed to travel already?

Searching information from these sites (https://pba.ph/ and https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba?ref=nav_link), but could not find any information.
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December 13, 2020, 12:12:13 PM
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December 13, 2020, 01:33:20 PM
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Let's stop this debate, we will see what would happen when PBA will start a new conference.

I'm not so familiar with the list of conferences but I believe only one conference where there's no import and that was the recently concluded conference, so what conference will be next, what its called and where there will be imports already? are they allowed to travel already?

Searching information from these sites (https://pba.ph/ and https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba?ref=nav_link), but could not find any information.

Good question, what might be the setup for this conference as we expect that import will be reinforcing each teams inside, are they allowed to travel now? possible if though as they can just follow those preventive protocols before joining the practice. In terms of which team will dominate it's too early for that.

There are lots of teams who also improved, waiting for good opportunities and show up in this following
conference, we can't tell it yet as everything depends from how the teams comes up during the games.

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December 13, 2020, 11:09:30 PM
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Let's stop this debate, we will see what would happen when PBA will start a new conference.

I'm not so familiar with the list of conferences but I believe only one conference where there's no import and that was the recently concluded conference, so what conference will be next, what its called and where there will be imports already? are they allowed to travel already?

Searching information from these sites (https://pba.ph/ and https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba?ref=nav_link), but could not find any information.

Good question, what might be the setup for this conference as we expect that import will be reinforcing each teams inside, are they allowed to travel now? possible if though as they can just follow those preventive protocols before joining the practice. In terms of which team will dominate it's too early for that.
I can't read the exact rules by the IATF regarding this but I believe they are already allowed to travel by following the protocol, so i guess we will see some updates soon regarding the next conference.


There are lots of teams who also improved, waiting for good opportunities and show up in this following
conference, we can't tell it yet as everything depends from how the teams comes up during the games.
The only team I saw that has improved was the Phoenix, and that is because of Calvin Abueva and the new coach maybe, TNT is already a usual customer in the q-finals, s-finals, and the Finals.

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December 13, 2020, 11:58:44 PM
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I'm not so familiar with the list of conferences but I believe only one conference where there's no import and that was the recently concluded conference, so what conference will be next, what its called and where there will be imports already? are they allowed to travel already.

All-Filipino Conference is the starting conference every year so no need to think about those imports for now. It was a yearly reset. That's why Yeng Guaio considered Ginebra a GrandSlam (winning all 3 conference titles a season) this year after winning the championship.

What we need to wait for is, what will be the set up next conference. Will they create their own bubble again or it's now allowed to held games in their usual venue but still without an audience.

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December 14, 2020, 02:08:56 AM
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I'm not so familiar with the list of conferences but I believe only one conference where there's no import and that was the recently concluded conference, so what conference will be next, what its called and where there will be imports already? are they allowed to travel already.

All-Filipino Conference is the starting conference every year so no need to think about those imports for now. It was a yearly reset. That's why Yeng Guaio considered Ginebra a GrandSlam (winning all 3 conference titles a season) this year after winning the championship.

What we need to wait for is, what will be the set up next conference. Will they create their own bubble again or it's now allowed to held games in their usual venue but still without an audience.

I think it will be the same setup with all-Filipino, since there are still places in the Philippines where there are still covid, the only downside of this is that is the PBA willing to continue the same format, or maybe they will be allowed to travel but with strict protocol and less audience will be implemented, covid really changes everything especially contact sports.

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December 14, 2020, 05:59:14 AM
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What we need to wait for is, what will be the set up next conference. Will they create their own bubble again or it's now allowed to held games in their usual venue but still without an audience.

A very chance that it may happen if there's no changes coming from the government rules, if the same setup still exist with the government there's  a big chance that bubble may take place to allow the league to continue, it's a big money to lose if they'll going to go ahead playing in different arena without audiences.

Still unknown as PBA managements needs to consider both government rules and the beneficial side
if they'll going to try and start the new conference.

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December 14, 2020, 09:49:27 AM
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What we need to wait for is, what will be the set up next conference. Will they create their own bubble again or it's now allowed to held games in their usual venue but still without an audience.

A very chance that it may happen if there's no changes coming from the government rules, if the same setup still exist with the government there's  a big chance that bubble may take place to allow the league to continue, it's a big money to lose if they'll going to go ahead playing in different arena without audiences.

Still unknown as PBA managements needs to consider both government rules and the beneficial side
if they'll going to try and start the new conference.

We will see the next conference, government would not stop that, now we are more matured and we know how to fight covid-19, so it's easy to get an approval. The PBA has been following the NBA in terms of set up, so maybe they'll follow the current set up of the PBA, unfortunately, PBA doesn't have a home court but maybe they can travel in other places to play.

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December 14, 2020, 09:56:26 AM
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What we need to wait for is, what will be the set up next conference. Will they create their own bubble again or it's now allowed to held games in their usual venue but still without an audience.

A very chance that it may happen if there's no changes coming from the government rules, if the same setup still exist with the government there's  a big chance that bubble may take place to allow the league to continue, it's a big money to lose if they'll going to go ahead playing in different arena without audiences.

Still unknown as PBA managements needs to consider both government rules and the beneficial side
if they'll going to try and start the new conference.

We will see the next conference, government would not stop that, now we are more matured and we know how to fight covid-19, so it's easy to get an approval. The PBA has been following the NBA in terms of set up, so maybe they'll follow the current set up of the PBA, unfortunately, PBA doesn't have a home court but maybe they can travel in other places to play.

Maybe yes, they can play now with the same regular setup more likely how NBA was doing during this preseason, the question now

if fans are willing to take part and take the risk watching each games. Knowing that Covid still exist and vaccines is yet not been proven.

Following the moves of NBA, there are big difference in terms of budgeting and attracting fans to support each games. Money is far important than entertainment as we know how people are trying to survive during this pandemic.

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December 14, 2020, 10:03:22 AM
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What we need to wait for is, what will be the set up next conference. Will they create their own bubble again or it's now allowed to held games in their usual venue but still without an audience.

A very chance that it may happen if there's no changes coming from the government rules, if the same setup still exist with the government there's  a big chance that bubble may take place to allow the league to continue, it's a big money to lose if they'll going to go ahead playing in different arena without audiences.

Still unknown as PBA managements needs to consider both government rules and the beneficial side
if they'll going to try and start the new conference.

We will see the next conference, government would not stop that, now we are more matured and we know how to fight covid-19, so it's easy to get an approval. The PBA has been following the NBA in terms of set up, so maybe they'll follow the current set up of the PBA, unfortunately, PBA doesn't have a home court but maybe they can travel in other places to play.

Maybe yes, they can play now with the same regular setup more likely how NBA was doing during this preseason, the question now

if fans are willing to take part and take the risk watching each games. Knowing that Covid still exist and vaccines is yet not been proven.

Following the moves of NBA, there are big difference in terms of budgeting and attracting fans to support each games. Money is far important than entertainment as we know how people are trying to survive during this pandemic.

I guess it's not the problem, fans are well protected compared to the players that will be playing without a mask. Some of the cock fighting house are already open now, so I guess the government are not so strict already, they just need to ensure that people are strictly following the safety protocols and it's doable in PBA since this is a big league.

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December 14, 2020, 10:34:40 AM
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Confirming as well that I received my winning. Thanks bisdak40

I just want to confirm that I have already receive my winning on my bet with @bisdak40  in the PBA Finals.
trans: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/0b5cd6ad32455f018850ead1ba8579257c99fb983344f3507f484b30ddab742c

@Finestream and mirakal be ready to send me your btc addy  Grin.

Thank you so much bro, until next time.

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December 14, 2020, 11:24:10 AM
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Confirming as well that I received my winning. Thanks bisdak40

I just want to confirm that I have already receive my winning on my bet with @bisdak40  in the PBA Finals.
trans: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/0b5cd6ad32455f018850ead1ba8579257c99fb983344f3507f484b30ddab742c

@Finestream and mirakal be ready to send me your btc addy  Grin.

Thank you so much bro, until next time.

You are very welcome brothers  Grin, that's the price i have to pay for hating the Ginebra Kings lol. Kidding aside, if only Castro and Parks were not injured, that series could be more interesting and it might went to a do or die game 7. Anyways, injury is all part of the game and it's just unfortunate on my side that TNT Tropang Giga caught all of it hehe.

One thing i like about this season is that they don't give award for MVP and JMF15's streak is not yet broken and there is a very high chance that he will be crown MVP next season.
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December 14, 2020, 11:31:04 AM
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One thing i like about this season is that they don't give award for MVP and JMF15's streak is not yet broken and there is a very high chance that he will be crown MVP next season.
Most probably because he will be coming back strong next conference, he was already starting to practice, so that means he can already play with physical contact and I expect him to be the same June Mar which we called the Kraken, SMB will dominate again or they are already taken over by the Ginebra?

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December 14, 2020, 09:54:39 PM
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Most probably because he will be coming back strong next conference, he was already starting to practice, so that means he can already play with physical contact and I expect him to be the same June Mar which we called the Kraken, SMB will dominate again or they are already taken over by the Ginebra?

I'm not expecting JuneMar to go fully in his 100% once he returned. His injury is serious that it needs a whole conference as a resting period.

And besides, SMB should just maintain to be in playoffs contention so that JuneMar is not forced to play at his best. Reserving his energy to the playoffs instead.

And when the times that it's now on playoffs, JuneMar can now push to his 100%.

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December 14, 2020, 09:56:30 PM
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Most probably because he will be coming back strong next conference, he was already starting to practice, so that means he can already play with physical contact and I expect him to be the same June Mar which we called the Kraken, SMB will dominate again or they are already taken over by the Ginebra?

I'm not expecting JuneMar to go fully in his 100% once he returned. His injury is serious that it needs a whole conference as a resting period.

And besides, SMB should just maintain to be in playoffs contention so that JuneMar is not forced to play at his best. Reserving his energy to the playoffs instead.

And when the times that it's now on playoffs, JuneMar can now push to his 100%.

It might take time but we know JuneMar is a tough guy, he can still make the team better even if he will not really score his usual, as long as he is in the inside, the entire team's confidence will be back again. I'm looking forward to that, just like me, people also expect a lot of the consistent MVP in the league.

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December 14, 2020, 10:19:51 PM
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If the Gin Kings will be crowned champion, my vote for the Final's MVP goes to LA Tenorio.
I'm also shipping for LA to be the finals MVP but still that's not for us to decide. But if he does, then that will make us proud who shipped for him to receive the title for this PBAs first bubble conference.
Later, we'll see if it's the final game or there will be a followed up game or it will end 4-1 for the Gin Kings. Who's eyeing for a 3-2?
Well then, the series has ended and congratulations to the Gin Kings, and this eyeing for LA Tenorio as the finals MVP has happened.  Smiley
(https://sports.inquirer.net/410529/la-tenorio-says-pba-finals-mvp-award-a-bonus)
(https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/30494509/la-tenorio-first-philippine-cup-title-completes-career)

It's been announced that he was the Finals MVP and its his first win in the all Filipino Cup.
At 36 years old, still playing at its best, we can still expect more from him and him being the PG of the Ginebra Gins is making the team better.

Still no news for what's next on this successful bubble?
He never gets old and truly deserve. I'm still in the sense of appreciating that he got the finals MVP though but moving on this time.  Smiley

It might take time but we know JuneMar is a tough guy, he can still make the team better even if he will not really score his usual, as long as he is in the inside, the entire team's confidence will be back again. I'm looking forward to that, just like me, people also expect a lot of the consistent MVP in the league.
I agree. Having a big guy like Junemar inside the perimeter will still make him able to do. As long as he's inside/under the ring, he can consistently contribute through defense.

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December 14, 2020, 10:30:29 PM
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It might take time but we know JuneMar is a tough guy, he can still make the team better even if he will not really score his usual, as long as he is in the inside, the entire team's confidence will be back again. I'm looking forward to that, just like me, people also expect a lot of the consistent MVP in the league.
I agree. Having a big guy like Junemar inside the perimeter will still make him able to do. As long as he's inside/under the ring, he can consistently contribute through defense.
We've seen him many times and still he is a beast inside. Actually it's not the first time that he was injured but he was still able to come back, with his height, he can use that to intimidate those who like to drive inside and even grab easy rebounds, that's why people believe in him.

His humbleness also makes him a better player and a better person, he follows his coaches without complains so I'm confident he will be back, maybe the injury would affect him in the beginning but in the long run we will be able to see the same JMF.

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December 14, 2020, 10:49:52 PM
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Do you guys agree with what SMB Coach Leo Austria said in his recent interview?
https://cnnphilippines.com/sports/2020/12/14/June-Mar-Fajardo-Leo-Austria-ready-PBA-next-season-San-Miguel.html?fb

"Every tournament, every season, every conference, all teams are preparing to beat us but that's noticeable and I know the management will help us and find ways to improve our lineup."

First of all, obviously teams are preparing for any opponent, not just SMB. The goal is to win championship whoever the dominant team.

Second, they have so far the best lineup in the league during the past conferences. And he even said that, some of his players aren't 100% ready in the bubble.

What I'm trying to picture out here? Hehe, should be obvious.

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December 15, 2020, 12:43:23 AM
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The next conference will start in April, ETA.

JuneMar needs at least a whole season or 12 months to recover as per his Doctor. It will be in February next year for the whole year.

We have seen him doing shooting practice last October so we can assume that on that 12 months period, it includes soft physical workouts. And with 4 1/2 months before the conference start, JuneMar will be physically fit to play in that season. Terrence Romeo's injust needs 6 to 8 weeks so by April, he is now again ready to play and will make SMB a team to beat again.
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