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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 23, 2020, 08:10:39 AM
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Game 4 if there's no adjustments it will be an easy final trip for the Gin kings, again Meralco needs to find ways to counter every run that BGSM have, it's the only way to keep them close and got the higher chance to win in the last minutes of the game.

Bolts will adjust, and if that work, it's still hard for them to beat the Ginebra, probably it could be a close game but still Ginebra would win, that's my prediction and I'm ready to bet on them even at -6.5 maximum.
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November 23, 2020, 09:04:08 AM
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Not a close game again, in game 3, Ginebra is the one dictating the game and I don't want to see Ginebra winning by double digit again. Maybe 1-5 points, that would be nice, I'll be happy with that as I bet on that odds, lol.. hopefully it will hit, please.......4th quarter now.

Ginebra won by just a single digit mate but it's a seven-point lead, hope you hit your bet. Ginebra is just too much for Meralco in this series and we might see Bolt's exit next game.

Ginebra vs Phoenix in the Finals is not bad at all and just can't help speculate that the arena would be full again if it is open to the public.

Yeah, I lose that bet, the odds was 5+, I was watching the game closely and the close score Meralco had against Ginebra was just 6 points, I would just say it's almost, lol... better luck next time, there's still more games after this, but unfortunately, my bankroll was already empty.

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That' really close after Newsome hits the last 3 point but Bolts did not attempt that much to try stealing the ball, BGSM dictates the game
in the first period making it hard for bolts to comes up and try to snatch, even they''ve shown a good response coming the 2nd half but
that lead from the first 2 quarters is well enough to keep the win for the BGSM.

Game 4 if there's no adjustments it will be an easy final trip for the Gin kings, again Meralco needs to find ways to counter every run that BGSM have, it's the only way to keep them close and got the higher chance to win in the last minutes of the game.

It's close but it's still a lose. Grin

Anyway, I have already move on to that, there's still plenty of opportunity to come back, I would still bet on the 1-5 range next game, how knows  it will again him, as always, I would bet on the underdog, and hopefully Phoenix will still remain as the underdog in game 4.

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November 23, 2020, 08:49:43 PM
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Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

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November 23, 2020, 09:31:08 PM
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Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

Skills and experienced wise, BGSM have a bigger advantages from this game. I hear you, there's no need for the ref to help them as they can win this one with clean and pure talents. Bolts do try to fight back but they are short since BGSM maintain the tempo, in every attempt
rallied from Bolts there's  good answer from BGSM.

Game of coaches this coming game 4, BGSM can take it from here and have an extra rest if TNT will try to win their series against Phoenix.
Both semis are enticing as rivalries really fought well and both are not easily giving up..

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November 23, 2020, 09:44:19 PM
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Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

That "luto" thing is just unfair to the Ginebra team because for me they played well in that game and no matter what the Meralco Bolts did, the Kings have an answer so I don't think that referee's call has something to do with that. Referre's are human too and they can make mistakes and this thing also happens in the NBA.
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November 23, 2020, 10:32:52 PM
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Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

That "luto" thing is just unfair to the Ginebra team because for me they played well in that game and no matter what the Meralco Bolts did, the Kings have an answer so I don't think that referee's call has something to do with that. Referre's are human too and they can make mistakes and this thing also happens in the NBA.

Even outside the PBA, you can still hear this kind of accusation, I think that's normal for players too to make this kind of stupid accusation maybe due to frustration but they should learn not to do it again because they are professionals, the good thing is, they are accusing the ref not the league itself.
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November 24, 2020, 08:16:16 AM
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Ginebra vs Meralco on Game 3, The Kings did a great job to control the game in the early quarter. Meralco on the other hand can't find a way how to respond to Ginebra's offensive boards. While they are trying to shorten the lead, Ginebra will eventually extend it.

That "LUTO", to whoever player from Meralco called it, is just a fine action. Try to review replays and we will not see any hard physical contact with those 2 consecutive calls and surprisingly another call was made. Maybe it happened several times already where players called out that towards to ref but we can't just hear it live because of live audience. Ginebra will take this series, no need for refs. Cheesy

That "luto" thing is just unfair to the Ginebra team because for me they played well in that game and no matter what the Meralco Bolts did, the Kings have an answer so I don't think that referee's call has something to do with that. Referre's are human too and they can make mistakes and this thing also happens in the NBA.

Even outside the PBA, you can still hear this kind of accusation, I think that's normal for players too to make this kind of stupid accusation maybe due to frustration but they should learn not to do it again because they are professionals, the good thing is, they are accusing the ref not the league itself.

Common reaction from those who are really eager to beat this team, in fairness to them as they really improved from this bubble we continue to see how they rotate the ball and how they really trying to find the right man to bring the bucket. Those allegations are not appropriate as fans witness how the game being played.

Anything can happened, Bolts still have the series it's just a win away from BGSM they can chase this win and have the do or die game
series. They can use that frustration to be their inspiration to win the game.


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November 24, 2020, 10:00:29 AM
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Anything can happened, Bolts still have the series it's just a win away from BGSM they can chase this win and have the do or die game
series. They can use that frustration to be their inspiration to win the game.



Bolts will have to win to force a game 5 but I don't like their chances here, PBA now is better with Ginebra is playing as they have a lot of fans, so maybe that's the reason why Hugnatan was frustrated and said "luto"... They say Ginebra is the best team in the PBA, so peopel would watch the PBA because of Ginebra and I can tell in the viewers they are getting during live betting.

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November 24, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
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Lucky for those who shouted luto, no one was able to pinpoint the culprit so no penalty is given, but it should be a warning to the one who did that. I'm sure he is already laughing now as he escape on this one, whoever that person is in the Meralco squad.

'Luto' heckler escapes penalty as PBA admits no solid evidence

I like to guess, was it Maliksi because I remember.

Allein Maliksi comes clean, admits 'cooking' gesture not meant for Star teammates

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November 24, 2020, 03:45:28 PM
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Moving forward from the "LUTO", what are your thoughts for game four? Close out games can get tricky because no teams are ready to be eliminated yet. GSM is understandably the favorite but I'm not sure why Phoenix is coming off as an underdog. Are bookies thinking of Matthew Wright's ankle issue here? Regardless, I hope they don't collapse from the TNT pressure.
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Moving forward from the "LUTO", what are your thoughts for game four? Close out games can get tricky because no teams are ready to be eliminated yet. GSM is understandably the favorite but I'm not sure why Phoenix is coming off as an underdog. Are bookies thinking of Matthew Wright's ankle issue here? Regardless, I hope they don't collapse from the TNT pressure.

I'm also thinking about that, TNT being the favorite but then again as bettors we should exploit that as Phoenix have the momentum on game 4 (the way i see it). The three days rest have helped Matthew Wright with his injury and i think online bookies don't have researchers as they still put Phoenix the underdog  Grin.

On a five game series, those who have a chance to close out will do their best because failure to do so will just putting their selves into a lot of pressure the next game because of momentum shift.

Ginebra being an experienced team will do the job of sending the Bolts out of the bubble after game 4.
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November 24, 2020, 10:05:23 PM
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Moving forward from the "LUTO", what are your thoughts for game four? Close out games can get tricky because no teams are ready to be eliminated yet. GSM is understandably the favorite but I'm not sure why Phoenix is coming off as an underdog. Are bookies thinking of Matthew Wright's ankle issue here? Regardless, I hope they don't collapse from the TNT pressure.

I'm also thinking about that, TNT being the favorite but then again as bettors we should exploit that as Phoenix have the momentum on game 4 (the way i see it). The three days rest have helped Matthew Wright with his injury and i think online bookies don't have researchers as they still put Phoenix the underdog  Grin.

On a five game series, those who have a chance to close out will do their best because failure to do so will just putting their selves into a lot of pressure the next game because of momentum shift.



The odds usually don't change, TNT started as Favorites in the the series so they will remain the favorites in even game because they only lose to a close game against Phoenix, actually it's worth a shot, I think TNT would have a good start but Phoenix is the one who will be victorious in the end.


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Possibly because on the two games they loss against Ginebra, they loss by a bad margin.

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November 25, 2020, 06:02:48 AM
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I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?
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November 25, 2020, 07:16:17 AM
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I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?

I'm also surprise with the odds, who would thought that Phoenix is +5.5 after it beat TNT in 2 straight games. With this uncertainty of mind, I think I will go with the total points, and since it's a do or die game for the TNT, they will put their defense here, hence it's gonna end up a low scoring game.

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November 25, 2020, 10:03:28 PM
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I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?

I'm also surprise with the odds, who would thought that Phoenix is +5.5 after it beat TNT in 2 straight games. With this uncertainty of mind, I think I will go with the total points, and since it's a do or die game for the TNT, they will put their defense here, hence it's gonna end up a low scoring game.

TNT won the game but it doesn't covered the handicap, lucky to those Phoenix fans who bet with this huge handicap. Most of the time being wise is better than to allow your emotion as a fan, it's all about money and you don't need to risk if you do see advantages from the bookmakers grab and enjoy.

Both series have their own do or die version, TNT and Bolts force this one up in both close matches. Time for the fans now to use their reserve funds to allocate with this semi final games. BGSM and TNT both shares the favorites but who knows if what adjustment both Bolts and Phoenix will do trying to win it over and reached the finals.

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November 25, 2020, 11:02:27 PM
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I'm surprised with the TNT vs Phoenix odds, Phoenix is currently at +5.5.. I don't like it, it looks like a trap and we might see some "luto" in this game.
TNT will win and we will see a game 5, what do you think?

I'm also surprise with the odds, who would thought that Phoenix is +5.5 after it beat TNT in 2 straight games. With this uncertainty of mind, I think I will go with the total points, and since it's a do or die game for the TNT, they will put their defense here, hence it's gonna end up a low scoring game.

TNT won the game but it doesn't covered the handicap, lucky to those Phoenix fans who bet with this huge handicap. Most of the time being wise is better than to allow your emotion as a fan, it's all about money and you don't need to risk if you do see advantages from the bookmakers grab and enjoy.

Both series have their own do or die version, TNT and Bolts force this one up in both close matches. Time for the fans now to use their reserve funds to allocate with this semi final games. BGSM and TNT both shares the favorites but who knows if what adjustment both Bolts and Phoenix will do trying to win it over and reached the finals.

It was suppose to be a good comeback by the Phoenix but Wright struggled in the 4th quarter, still nice game for both, both series will go game 5 and that double header will be seen in Saturday, I think people think that it was rigged for the PBA to make more money, hmmmm...
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November 25, 2020, 11:28:17 PM
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I think people think that it was rigged for the PBA to make more money, hmmmm...

All Teams are doing their best. We can see that they are fair. It's just that these referees sometimes should be liable for these missed, sensitive, and wrong calls as just what they did to a referee before during the elimination. People maybe think now that the PBA just wants to maximize the potential earnings now that they are playing without the audience and only rely on advertisements.

Both series are now in a win or go home state. What's your bet guys? I'm hoping it will be Meralco vs Phoenix for a change.

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November 26, 2020, 08:08:26 AM
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Both series are now in a win or go home state. What's your bet guys? I'm hoping it will be Meralco vs Phoenix for a change.

I think Meralco will lose though they have the momentum now, I believe the Finals will be between the Ginebra Gin kings and the Phoenix Fuel Masters.
It's a good series IMO, Abueva will still be unstoppable and I like the Phoenix chances against the popular team Gin kings in the Finals.

Betting on the teams I've mentioned, Ginebra (favorites), Phoenix (underdog), I think I'll put a parlay too .

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November 26, 2020, 10:43:06 AM
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Both series are now in a win or go home state. What's your bet guys? I'm hoping it will be Meralco vs Phoenix for a change.

I think Meralco will lose though they have the momentum now, I believe the Finals will be between the Ginebra Gin kings and the Phoenix Fuel Masters.
It's a good series IMO, Abueva will still be unstoppable and I like the Phoenix chances against the popular team Gin kings in the Finals.

Betting on the teams I've mentioned, Ginebra (favorites), Phoenix (underdog), I think I'll put a parlay too .

Good luck on that bud, it seems like the series was so unpredictable, we though Ginebra would end the series but Meralco became the better team in that game, and it's always a domination by them at the beginning. I don't know which team will win but sticking to Ginebra is the right thing to do because they "NEVER SAY DIE".

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November 26, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
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Line is up early today, you can place your bet now.

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Good luck to whatever team you guys think you'll bet, may it be on the underdog or the favorites.
One thing I believe, since this is a do or die game, it will be a low scoring ball game.
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