2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[blockman]

This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much.  

They should be suspended. If there's strong evidence that they're playing the game as if they're throwing it, they have to accept the consequences.
Former Senator Jinggoy Estrada even gave his opinion that they should be banned and out of the league for life. If you'll watch some footage, those free throws are obviously thrown and intended to be missed. They're amateur in becoming professional or most of them are already professionals then they'll have that kind of free throw? they were missing those throws intentionally.

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[harizen]

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much. 

Read that in the news and since there's a video, YES it's true. Several PBA players voiced their concerns about that issue.

But I'm disappointed with the aftermath. Should be penalized all players and coaches of both teams. And guess what, the reason of that guy missing intentionally his free throw is, he is just frustrated that's why his shot turned into the worst. A big lol to him. Short-term suspension isn't enough. Should be years or kicked them out of the league.

[Kelvinid]

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much. 

Read that in the news and since there's a video, YES it's true. Several PBA players voiced their concerns about that issue.

But I'm disappointed with the aftermath. Should be penalized all players and coaches of both teams. And guess what, the reason of that guy missing intentionally his free throw is, he is just frustrated that's why his shot turned into the worst. A big lol to him. Short-term suspension isn't enough. Should be years or kicked them out of the league.

I guess that's the best punishment for this kind of offense, it's not only destroying the team but the league in general, there should be no room for this kind of criminal act, they should protec the sport and our reputation. We don't want to be called that our basketball in the league is corrupt because we are already called as a corrupt country, so that would not help at all.

[LogitechMouse]

This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much.  

They must be very ashamed of themselves after what they did.

I will just cite some scenarios that happened which is very obvious that this is fix game.
1. Free Throws of one team is just hitting the board and not the ring. Its also obvious that they aren't really have the intention to shoot it.
2. One team is just wasting their time when they are holding the ball. Whenever they have the ball, they are just wasting it and in the end the opposing team will steal it causing a turnover.
3. There are also times that the one team is free and it is a fastbreak but he can't shoot it. He is free but he can't shoot it?? Sounds obvious. There is also one instance where a player is free to shoot and he made a hook shot from about 5 ft away from the ring but the ending?? It is an airball and take note the defender did nothing on it but stand but it ended up still as an airball.

These 3 are just a few of the obvious reasons that the game was fixed probably because of this online bets. Do I believe on this. Its obvious so yes and in fact one team has been banned and the other is just suspended and both of them are fined 1 Million each.

PBA players also reacted with this. They really are just ruining the sport that they loved, that we are love to play. Its the first time to have a league like this in VisMin but they did this. Shame on these people.

[Kasabus]

Now from the MPBL.

DOJ to file criminal raps against 17 in MPBL game-fixing case

Fittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.

Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu.

This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation.

[bisdak40]

This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much.  

They must be very ashamed of themselves after what they did.

I will just cite some scenarios that happened which is very obvious that this is fix game.
1. Free Throws of one team is just hitting the board and not the ring. Its also obvious that they aren't really have the intention to shoot it.
2. One team is just wasting their time when they are holding the ball. Whenever they have the ball, they are just wasting it and in the end the opposing team will steal it causing a turnover.
3. There are also times that the one team is free and it is a fastbreak but he can't shoot it. He is free but he can't shoot it?? Sounds obvious. There is also one instance where a player is free to shoot and he made a hook shot from about 5 ft away from the ring but the ending?? It is an airball and take note the defender did nothing on it but stand but it ended up still as an airball.

These 3 are just a few of the obvious reasons that the game was fixed probably because of this online bets. Do I believe on this. Its obvious so yes and in fact one team has been banned and the other is just suspended and both of them are fined 1 Million each.

PBA players also reacted with this. They really are just ruining the sport that they loved, that we are love to play. Its the first time to have a league like this in VisMin but they did this. Shame on these people.

TBH, i didn't watched the video though i saw some clips but i don't want to see the whole thing they do to disgrace the game.

Just my analysis, i believed that players/coaching staff from the Siquijor team knows that the game was rigged while players from Lapu-lapu team didn't because of the things that they do were so obvious. It you intentionally missed free throws, you know that people would noticed that and that's not a good acting in a rigged game.

Nevertheless, it is still a very bad game to watch and it's just fitting that GAB ordered an investigation and punished those people behind this.

[Fredomago]

Now from the MPBL.

DOJ to file criminal raps against 17 in MPBL game-fixing case

Fittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.

Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu.

This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation.

Good move! It will served as warning to everyone that law will hunt them once they'll find evidence of game fixing. Hopefully it will also serve as beginning of many possible tracing of those people behind this kind of activities.

Those players deserved what is happening to them right now. There are lots of inspiring youngsters who wanted to have the same opportunities, but those people who did messed it up.

Obvious things won't escape from the eyes of those who understand the game, better not to follow this kind of act or else
you'll suffer the same.

[Maslate]

Nevertheless, it is still a very bad game to watch and it's just fitting that GAB ordered an investigation and punished those people behind this.

If they are betting against themselves, then they should already had made money on this.

The question is, if the fine is just monetary, it would be easy for them to get away if they bet millions on that game.
What bookies are actually accepting bets on this particular league in the Philippines?

I'm just curious as I haven't bet on this game yet.

[bisdak40]

Nevertheless, it is still a very bad game to watch and it's just fitting that GAB ordered an investigation and punished those people behind this.

If they are betting against themselves, then they should already had made money on this.

Maybe they were doing this kind of activity for so long and already made some money out of it.

The question is, if the fine is just monetary, it would be easy for them to get away if they bet millions on that game.
What bookies are actually accepting bets on this particular league in the Philippines?

I'm just curious as I haven't bet on this game yet.

I looked through Sportbet as they cover some games in the MPBL but i didn't saw they cover the Vis-Min Cup so i think if they were betting online, it's just a local online bookies. I have not tried betting on local bookies as i think they need KYC so i didn't bother to try.

I'm very disappointed/frustrated about this issue because aside from the fact that this is a disgrace to the game we love, i have a relative playing for Lapu-Lapu team which could affect his personal life after basketball.

This is already for investigation and i hope he will come out clean.

[blockman]

Now from the MPBL.

DOJ to file criminal raps against 17 in MPBL game-fixing case

Fittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.

Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu.

This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation.

They're taking this seriously and this serves also as a warning if there are still some of them that are involved with such.
If they are taking care of their career while being part of a team and the league itself, they should take care of their reputation and won't agree to be part of such a dirty game which many of us don't like.

[mirakal]

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

[Maslate]

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

Bookies will never get affected, they are in control of the line and they can always minimiz the risk by balancing both sides. It's the bettors who loss on the losing team will sacrifice but bookies will continue to make money. Also, they can limit the market of this bet if they found it unreliable, but would not totally remove it from betting market.

[LogitechMouse]

Now from the MPBL.

DOJ to file criminal raps against 17 in MPBL game-fixing case

Fittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.

Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu.

This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation.

Well, that is the only thing that they can do right now but I'm pretty sure that more of these will happening in the future.

I'm not pretty sure if game-fixing is already happening for quite some time already but that game is very obvious. Charging them, expulsing them and banning them are the punishments that they can gave to the player or the whole team but the damage has been done. The reputation of the sport has been damaged.

I don't know if this is true though but those players are just being ordered by the higher authorities because they have bets on it. This is just a theory but I think that these players are just being used here. We don't know who these "higher authorities" are though. Still a disappointment for me that game-fixing is happening in different basketball leagues in our country. 

[Hypnosis00]

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

Bookies will never get affected, they are in control of the line and they can always minimiz the risk by balancing both sides. It's the bettors who loss on the losing team will sacrifice but bookies will continue to make money. Also, they can limit the market of this bet if they found it unreliable, but would not totally remove it from betting market.

Maybe, they are always in business to offer us a chance to gamble no matter what the reputation of the game, as long as the public is betting and the action can be balance, bookies will take this as an opportunity, nice explanation mate, these people really are clever, more clever than those who are rigging sports.

[Maslate]

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

Bookies will never get affected, they are in control of the line and they can always minimiz the risk by balancing both sides. It's the bettors who loss on the losing team will sacrifice but bookies will continue to make money. Also, they can limit the market of this bet if they found it unreliable, but would not totally remove it from betting market.

Maybe, they are always in business to offer us a chance to gamble no matter what the reputation of the game, as long as the public is betting and the action can be balance, bookies will take this as an opportunity, nice explanation mate, these people really are clever, more clever than those who are rigging sports.

Indeed, that's why we don't have to worry on betting but worry on the reputation of our sports only.

Meanwhile, as Cone is excited on the new tandem, I'm sure the fans are more than excited.

Cone excited to roll out new Standhardinger-Aguilar combination

Imagine how they can dominate the inside. 

[blockman]

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

They might be but if another thing happens, I'm sure that will be the time that they will start to consider removing most of them or those teams that have an ugly history.
And if that time comes for sure many will be disappointed not unless the sportsbooks doesn't care about this kind of anomaly.

[Russlenat]

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

They might be but if another thing happens, I'm sure that will be the time that they will start to consider removing most of them or those teams that have an ugly history.
And if that time comes for sure many will be disappointed not unless the sportsbooks doesn't care about this kind of anomaly.

Sportsbook are separate, they can do their thing while the management has to discipline teams and players involve in rigging, it's a big job of cleaning the league but once it's clean, people would trust them again. Corruption is rampant in our country but we should act on this, a corrupt sport will never survive because no fans would love to watch them.

[Yamifoud]

Good news.

Crucial PBA board meeting to decide season format, new opening date

THE PBA 46th season hopefully will get more's clarity by Monday.

The league's board of governors convenes in a crucial meeting that will determine how it will go about the new season.

Chairman Ricky Vargas and Commissioner Willie Marcial will take turns in assessing the situation and giving out possible scenarios as the PBA sees another delay in its season opener for the second straight year due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Among the top matters in the league agenda is the current finances of the team since it will play a major role in two important undertakings the PBA needs moving forward – vaccine and bubble play.

Maybe soon we will know when and what format will be this coming new season, this is the update that we are all waiting for, maybe this week we will see the decision.

[blockman]

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

They might be but if another thing happens, I'm sure that will be the time that they will start to consider removing most of them or those teams that have an ugly history.
And if that time comes for sure many will be disappointed not unless the sportsbooks doesn't care about this kind of anomaly.

Sportsbook are separate, they can do their thing while the management has to discipline teams and players involve in rigging, it's a big job of cleaning the league but once it's clean, people would trust them again. Corruption is rampant in our country but we should act on this, a corrupt sport will never survive because no fans would love to watch them.

That's true, once it gets more corrupted, no one will ever trust and watch them again. Good-bye to supporters, goodbye to sponsors too that makes the league continuously running.
Because if it's not for them, there will be no monetary value that will come to the league.

Maybe soon we will know when and what format will be this coming new season, this is the update that we are all waiting for, maybe this week we will see the decision.

This is good news, now, we only have to wait for them announce the final decision that they've agreed together.

[LogitechMouse]

Good news.
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Maybe soon we will know when and what format will be this coming new season, this is the update that we are all waiting for, maybe this week we will see the decision.

Well at least we are seeing the BOD doing some things just to push the season amid the pandemic.
One season at least for the year would be good already but pushing it into 2 seasons would be better although it would cost them more money.

they can do their thing while the management has to discipline teams and players involve in rigging, it's a big job of cleaning the league but once it's clean, people would trust them again. Corruption is rampant in our country but we should act on this, a corrupt sport will never survive because no fans would love to watch them.

The best action that the management can do just to discipline them is to just expel them or ban them and for me, that is a good decision because they can destroy the reputation of the sport.
Will the game-fixing will be cleaned?? As much as I believe it will, I don't think knowing that they don't know which game are fixed and which are not. Its just that this controversial game consists of players who don't know how to act thus, its obvious that they are game fixing .