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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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April 26, 2021, 09:45:12 PM
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I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA. Correct me if I'm wrong, I just writing based on the result of my research. Maybe Coach Yeng cannot replicate the success he had during his time with the ROS, and comparing ROS to his team now, I guess NLEX is a bigger team, and yet he is less successful here compared to handling the ROS as a head coach before.

Though NLEX belong to the MVP group of companies, still they have to get into a normal process of getting more talented players and i think what frustrate coach Yeng is that TNT is the priority of the three MVP teams and NLEX is somewhat a farm team at the moment. I won't be surprised if K. Ravena would be traded to TNT in case Mikey Williams can't fulfill the duty that is expected of him.

They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation. If they want this league to be more successful, then they should start thinking of a change, it doesn't look good now to be honest, people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.
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April 27, 2021, 01:31:23 AM
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What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.
If you will see the roster of each team only, you will see the that line up of Ginebra San Miguel is the best so I will choose them as the best PBA team for this year.
There is a video created regarding the Power Rankings of each team. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_nFQUVGMU

Overall, acquiring CStand in Ginebra is a big addition to their firepower already. We already saw that they won a championship without him and now they got a reliable big. I'm a SMB fan but with JMF still not 100% healthy, I don't think that they have a chance in winning a title.

On the other hand though, I don't want to expect too much on Ginebra because after all the ball is round. We've seen different teams that have a good roster but ending up disappointing their fans.

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April 27, 2021, 06:05:57 AM
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They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation. If they want this league to be more successful, then they should start thinking of a change, it doesn't look good now to be honest, people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.

It's not as simple as you think. The market in PBA is so big that it can reach lots of people for the advertisement so a big money is needed before being allowed to be part of the PBA team (in case of expansion). And those organizations should prove that they can shoulder the cost of managing a team.

In 2019, Alaska owner says the cost of maintaining a PBA team is around P85 million and that’s just the basic operating expenses of a team that isn’t performing well. That cost is built around salaries of players, the coaching staff, and members of the support team: Practice players, ball boys, medical personnel, therapists and statisticians. Then there are the other yearly expenses like team uniforms for games and practices, training equipment, scouting equipment, rental of gyms for practices, allowances for out-of-town trips, food before and after every game and practice and other things that may crop up like medical emergencies. link

That's the reason why before being allowed in the league, a company or organization should have at least prove their financial capability.

It's different from MPBL.
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April 27, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
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They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation. If they want this league to be more successful, then they should start thinking of a change, it doesn't look good now to be honest, people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.
Very easy to say that they should add more teams, I think this has been a discussion and issue before but it's hard to get to that point. That's why teams are called franchise before the process of being on it is hard.
And as you notice, the remaining franchises are also coming from the top companies in the country. I agree to goinmerry that maintaining a team is very expensive and it's not that PBA don't like to add other teams but team owners find it expensive to get in.

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April 27, 2021, 08:50:47 PM
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They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation.

We can compare it to the difference between GMA and ABS-CBN in advertisement placing. ABS-CBN has a larger market compared to GMA that's why they charged more if some companies want to air a commercial on this station. In GMA, the cost is much lesser but on their primetime hits like Eat Bulaga, the cost will be different.

Back to PBA, they successfully built their reputation and gained a big audience over time. Being listed as a PBA team, the brand will be popular and advertised more. That's why a new team should have to pay a big listing fee as the brand will be exposed to PBA's big audience. Better than being only on a 30 secs duration of commercial at TV stations.

people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.

But even with that, the PBA rating is so far still good even in Pandemic. That's because of the loyalty of some viewers and there is money flowing thru gambling that even non-PBA viewers putting bets to gamble.
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April 27, 2021, 09:26:28 PM
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Looks like Mikey Willams is already a certain TNT player now.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/rookie-mikey-williams-lays-down-what-tnt-fans-can-expect-from-him-a795-20210427?ref=feed_1_section

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MIKEY Williams is glad to get the weeks-long negotiations out of the way and begin what he promises to be a fruitful partnership with TnT Tropang GIGA.ss.

“I’m excited. I’m just ready to get started and get the season underway,” said the 28-year old Fil-American guard just a day after signing a two-year maximum rookie deal with the flagship franchise of the MVP Group.

“I know it’s going to be an eventful season. Looking forward to getting back to the Philippines, be with the team, getting chemistry, and getting everything down so we can make a run at the championship."

let's see how he can help the TNT this season, will he be better than Ray Parks on contribution, or he is he just a regular guy?
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Pressed with own deadline, PBA to have dialogue with Malacañang

PBA is now making a move, to convince IATF to give the PBA the go-signal to proceed. That will be today, Wednesday, PH time, and according to PBA Chief, after the dialogue, we can expect an update after 1-2 days. One thing for sure here, it will be a bubble setup. And if the league can't start in June or July, it will be a single conference again.

And as confirmed in the report, "PBA already bought a vaccine" and just waiting for the arrival of it either next month or June.

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April 27, 2021, 11:12:24 PM
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Pressed with own deadline, PBA to have dialogue with Malacañang

PBA is now making a move, to convince IATF to give the PBA the go-signal to proceed. That will be today, Wednesday, PH time, and according to PBA Chief, after the dialogue, we can expect an update after 1-2 years. One thing for sure here, it will be a bubble setup. And if the league can't start in June or July, it will be a single conference again.

And as confirmed in the report, "PBA already bought a vaccine" and just waiting for the arrival of it either next month or June.
I think they'll be allowed by the IATF. Gilas has been given permission to get back into their practice in Calam-bubble(Calamba).
It will be an assured thing for PBA and they have a high chance to get back soon and if it's going to be a bubble, we'll going to see more games most often.
Wait mate, is it a typo, 1-2 years? instead of 1-2 days?

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April 28, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
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Pressed with own deadline, PBA to have dialogue with Malacañang

PBA is now making a move, to convince IATF to give the PBA the go-signal to proceed. That will be today, Wednesday, PH time, and according to PBA Chief, after the dialogue, we can expect an update after 1-2 years. One thing for sure here, it will be a bubble setup. And if the league can't start in June or July, it will be a single conference again.

And as confirmed in the report, "PBA already bought a vaccine" and just waiting for the arrival of it either next month or June.
I think they'll be allowed by the IATF. Gilas has been given permission to get back into their practice in Calam-bubble(Calamba).
It will be an assured thing for PBA and they have a high chance to get back soon and if it's going to be a bubble, we'll going to see more games most often.
Wait mate, is it a typo, 1-2 years? instead of 1-2 days?

The development is good, with this news, we will soon see the PBA resume and most probably they will have at least 2 conference this year, better than the last year and more players now will participate as they have already healed from injury.

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April 28, 2021, 08:44:15 AM
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Looks like Mikey Willams is already a certain TNT player now.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/rookie-mikey-williams-lays-down-what-tnt-fans-can-expect-from-him-a795-20210427?ref=feed_1_section

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MIKEY Williams is glad to get the weeks-long negotiations out of the way and begin what he promises to be a fruitful partnership with TnT Tropang GIGA.ss.

“I’m excited. I’m just ready to get started and get the season underway,” said the 28-year old Fil-American guard just a day after signing a two-year maximum rookie deal with the flagship franchise of the MVP Group.

“I know it’s going to be an eventful season. Looking forward to getting back to the Philippines, be with the team, getting chemistry, and getting everything down so we can make a run at the championship."

let's see how he can help the TNT this season, will he be better than Ray Parks on contribution, or he is he just a regular guy?

He already is a TNT Katropa as of this writing. The good thing about this, is that he realized that there is a limitation in the PBA and admits that he has to prove his worth first before demanding anything above standard.

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"I understand the limitations of the salary cap and I know I have to prove my worth first before I can put myself in a position to command a higher salary when this fresh contract expires."

Is he better than Parks? I think no because if he is then he should be the number one pick overall or at least number two. They were already scouted and if he is that good then i think Dyip would have drafted him instead of Munson, just me saying  Grin.
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April 28, 2021, 11:36:16 AM
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Pressed with own deadline, PBA to have dialogue with Malacañang

PBA is now making a move, to convince IATF to give the PBA the go-signal to proceed. That will be today, Wednesday, PH time, and according to PBA Chief, after the dialogue, we can expect an update after 1-2 years. One thing for sure here, it will be a bubble setup. And if the league can't start in June or July, it will be a single conference again.

And as confirmed in the report, "PBA already bought a vaccine" and just waiting for the arrival of it either next month or June.
I think they'll be allowed by the IATF. Gilas has been given permission to get back into their practice in Calam-bubble(Calamba).
It will be an assured thing for PBA and they have a high chance to get back soon and if it's going to be a bubble, we'll going to see more games most often.
Wait mate, is it a typo, 1-2 years? instead of 1-2 days?

The development is good, with this news, we will soon see the PBA resume and most probably they will have at least 2 conference this year, better than the last year and more players now will participate as they have already healed from injury.
I'm excited to see them play with their new rosters. With all of those drafts, I think that we're going to see another rising star from those picks.
That news confirms that it's just a matter of time and we're going to see them again in action.

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April 28, 2021, 11:53:33 AM
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I'm excited to see them play with their new rosters. With all of those drafts, I think that we're going to see another rising star from those picks.
That news confirms that it's just a matter of time and we're going to see them again in action.

Same here, but unfortunately I can only be excited with few teams, namely the following teams.

1. SMB ( with Perez)
2. Magnolia ( with Calvin)
3. Ginebra (with C. Stand)
4. Meralco ( with Mark Belo)

And of course, lastly the TNT with a good rookie being added.
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April 28, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
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Pressed with own deadline, PBA to have dialogue with Malacañang

PBA is now making a move, to convince IATF to give the PBA the go-signal to proceed. That will be today, Wednesday, PH time, and according to PBA Chief, after the dialogue, we can expect an update after 1-2 years. One thing for sure here, it will be a bubble setup. And if the league can't start in June or July, it will be a single conference again.

And as confirmed in the report, "PBA already bought a vaccine" and just waiting for the arrival of it either next month or June.
I think they'll be allowed by the IATF. Gilas has been given permission to get back into their practice in Calam-bubble(Calamba).
It will be an assured thing for PBA and they have a high chance to get back soon and if it's going to be a bubble, we'll going to see more games most often.
Wait mate, is it a typo, 1-2 years? instead of 1-2 days?

The development is good, with this news, we will soon see the PBA resume and most probably they will have at least 2 conference this year, better than the last year and more players now will participate as they have already healed from injury.

Luckily for players who got injured when pandemic is happening they don't get any pressure to returb back immediately they have long time rest to heal. Its more exciting indeed the season opening since its interesting to see how rookie perform on their first official gameplay in PBA.

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April 28, 2021, 04:17:37 PM
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They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation. If they want this league to be more successful, then they should start thinking of a change, it doesn't look good now to be honest, people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.
It is already obvious right?? Cheesy

I'm already thinking it too that this league is just a competition between SMC and MVP because in the past years, if you will see the teams who are fighting in the Finals are either coming from MVP or SMC or worse both of the teams are coming from one team. TBH, this destroys the competition of the league and this is also the reason why there aren't that much audience watching anymore. On the other hand, I don't want to compare PBA with MPBL though. People are smarter and they know what's going on probably but when there is money, there is no smarter Smiley.

That's the reason why before being allowed in the league, a company or organization should have at least prove their financial capability.
I have watched a video regarding this and there are some companies who are interested to join in the PBA. I can enumerate some. SM, Cebuana Lhullier and other more. Should SM prove their financial capability still?? The reason why the PBA don't want to add a team is because of advertisements. Again its all about money Smiley.

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April 28, 2021, 05:32:36 PM
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I'm excited to see them play with their new rosters. With all of those drafts, I think that we're going to see another rising star from those picks.
That news confirms that it's just a matter of time and we're going to see them again in action.

Same here, but unfortunately I can only be excited with few teams, namely the following teams.

1. SMB ( with Perez)
2. Magnolia ( with Calvin)
3. Ginebra (with C. Stand)
4. Meralco ( with Mark Belo)

And of course, lastly the TNT with a good rookie being added.
That's ok if that's your preference, mine is to look after the first few games of those rookies. But I think that there's nothing much to expect from them but still, I'd love to see them how to play.
Adapting the new league that they have been and knowing that it's like a dream come true for most of them. Well, many teams are really exciting to watch this season.

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April 28, 2021, 09:57:32 PM
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Should SM prove their financial capability still?? The reason why the PBA don't want to add a team is because of advertisements. Again its all about money Smiley.

PBA has shareholders that supporting the league till now. Of course, it's an obvious "money".

Even SM as an example does have a financial capability, in accordance with the law, having an extension team is not an action that can be granted right away. It has due process. There are also considerations before doing that as the whole schedule will be revised. PBA is running a 3 conference per year and adjustments will be very big even a new single team will join.
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April 28, 2021, 10:11:45 PM
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Should SM prove their financial capability still?? The reason why the PBA don't want to add a team is because of advertisements. Again its all about money Smiley.

PBA has shareholders that supporting the league till now. Of course, it's an obvious "money".

Even SM as an example does have a financial capability, in accordance with the law, having an extension team is not an action that can be granted right away. It has due process. There are also considerations before doing that as the whole schedule will be revised. PBA is running a 3 conference per year and adjustments will be very big even a new single team will join.
Money will always be part of the League and that’s why PBA keeps on pushing for another bubble season because they’ll make a lot of money from here and recently, they go to Malacanang to propose a possibly bubble season again. SM is a huge company they are capable of supporting and making other teams, though of course they must go on the process.
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April 28, 2021, 10:28:45 PM
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Should SM prove their financial capability still?? The reason why the PBA don't want to add a team is because of advertisements. Again its all about money Smiley.

PBA has shareholders that supporting the league till now. Of course, it's an obvious "money".

Even SM as an example does have a financial capability, in accordance with the law, having an extension team is not an action that can be granted right away. It has due process. There are also considerations before doing that as the whole schedule will be revised. PBA is running a 3 conference per year and adjustments will be very big even a new single team will join.
Money will always be part of the League and that’s why PBA keeps on pushing for another bubble season because they’ll make a lot of money from here and recently, they go to Malacanang to propose a possibly bubble season again. SM is a huge company they are capable of supporting and making other teams, though of course they must go on the process.
Not a lot of money actually since bubble does not allow a crowd which is the major contributor of their income. They just want to have a new season despite the situation because they want to provide entertainment and it doesn't matter if they'll operate in a little loss or break even as long as PBA stays.

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April 28, 2021, 11:57:00 PM
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Should SM prove their financial capability still?? The reason why the PBA don't want to add a team is because of advertisements. Again its all about money Smiley.

PBA has shareholders that supporting the league till now. Of course, it's an obvious "money".

Even SM as an example does have a financial capability, in accordance with the law, having an extension team is not an action that can be granted right away. It has due process. There are also considerations before doing that as the whole schedule will be revised. PBA is running a 3 conference per year and adjustments will be very big even a new single team will join.
Money will always be part of the League and that’s why PBA keeps on pushing for another bubble season because they’ll make a lot of money from here and recently, they go to Malacanang to propose a possibly bubble season again. SM is a huge company they are capable of supporting and making other teams, though of course they must go on the process.
Not a lot of money actually since bubble does not allow a crowd which is the major contributor of their income. They just want to have a new season despite the situation because they want to provide entertainment and it doesn't matter if they'll operate in a little loss or break even as long as PBA stays.
Exactly, they just want to remain active so Pinoys wont forget that PBA exist. Though of course there’s still money involve especially if they are partnering with TV channels where supporters can watch live, and that’s where money will come to them thru that advertisement. Anyway, I’m a basketball fan and I’d love to see them back on court again.

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April 29, 2021, 02:31:54 AM
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Should SM prove their financial capability still?? The reason why the PBA don't want to add a team is because of advertisements. Again its all about money Smiley.

PBA has shareholders that supporting the league till now. Of course, it's an obvious "money".

Even SM as an example does have a financial capability, in accordance with the law, having an extension team is not an action that can be granted right away. It has due process. There are also considerations before doing that as the whole schedule will be revised. PBA is running a 3 conference per year and adjustments will be very big even a new single team will join.
Yes PBA has shareholders that are supporting I agree with what you said and they are the ones who are preventing other companies to join the league Smiley.
With regards to schedule, I think that they can do something to adjust that thing. The only problem that I'm seeing why they aren't other new teams is the fact that these "shareholders" are preventing it.

Exactly, they just want to remain active so Pinoys wont forget that PBA exist. Though of course there’s still money involve especially if they are partnering with TV channels where supporters can watch live, and that’s where money will come to them thru that advertisement. Anyway, I’m a basketball fan and I’d love to see them back on court again.
We're all excited with PBA coming back and I've seen a post on Facebook regarding the BOD planning regarding the resume of the season this year. That is the start Smiley.

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