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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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July 19, 2021, 11:56:24 PM
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They can still win a championship even if they end up in the last standing, that's how good the SMB is, they might struggle at the start but they'll when they start winning, that will be consistent. JMF playing some limited minutes is okay because it will take time to get back his confidence and dominate inside again, remember, he is not the best player in the PBA for nothing, his records and achievement already proved it.

If they end up last on the standing, they will be eliminated mate together with the other one on the bottom. Cheesy

But seriously, too early to speculate what will happen. Those low-tier teams impressively got their first win against these monsters.

I like that honestly and I hope their winning streak will continue so that we can see new faces in the playoffs (although I doubt that will be the case till the end).

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July 20, 2021, 06:13:58 PM
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They can still win a championship even if they end up in the last standing, that's how good the SMB is, they might struggle at the start but they'll when they start winning, that will be consistent. JMF playing some limited minutes is okay because it will take time to get back his confidence and dominate inside again, remember, he is not the best player in the PBA for nothing, his records and achievement already proved it.

If they end up last on the standing, they will be eliminated mate together with the other one on the bottom. Cheesy

But seriously, too early to speculate what will happen. Those low-tier teams impressively got their first win against these monsters.

I like that honestly and I hope their winning streak will continue so that we can see new faces in the playoffs (although I doubt that will be the case till the end).

Hahaha Grin Tongue but kidding aside we all knew how capable SMB was, they are just warming up and they can always bounce back and
win a title.

Same as you bro, too early for that and with how those other teams are performing we can't say what will happened to this new season, what matters most is new major injuries and players and fans will enjoy the rest of the games.

SMB franchise or Pangilinan group of campanies Hahaaha Cool Roll Eyes

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July 20, 2021, 09:14:00 PM
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They can still win a championship even if they end up in the last standing, that's how good the SMB is, they might struggle at the start but they'll when they start winning, that will be consistent. JMF playing some limited minutes is okay because it will take time to get back his confidence and dominate inside again, remember, he is not the best player in the PBA for nothing, his records and achievement already proved it.

If they end up last on the standing, they will be eliminated mate together with the other one on the bottom. Cheesy

But seriously, too early to speculate what will happen. Those low-tier teams impressively got their first win against these monsters.

I like that honestly and I hope their winning streak will continue so that we can see new faces in the playoffs (although I doubt that will be the case till the end).

Hahaha Grin Tongue but kidding aside we all knew how capable SMB was, they are just warming up and they can always bounce back and
win a title.

Same as you bro, too early for that and with how those other teams are performing we can't say what will happened to this new season, what matters most is new major injuries and players and fans will enjoy the rest of the games.

SMB franchise or Pangilinan group of campanies Hahaaha Cool Roll Eyes

What if Magnolia would win the championship this conference, or the Meralco Bolts who is playing very well in the past 2 games, I guess it will surprise the fans as the fan favorites are the SMB and BGSM. IMO, as long as Fajardo will not be back to his old stats, SMB will not win a championship this conference.

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July 20, 2021, 09:23:49 PM
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They can still win a championship even if they end up in the last standing, that's how good the SMB is, they might struggle at the start but they'll when they start winning, that will be consistent. JMF playing some limited minutes is okay because it will take time to get back his confidence and dominate inside again, remember, he is not the best player in the PBA for nothing, his records and achievement already proved it.

If they end up last on the standing, they will be eliminated mate together with the other one on the bottom. Cheesy

But seriously, too early to speculate what will happen. Those low-tier teams impressively got their first win against these monsters.

I like that honestly and I hope their winning streak will continue so that we can see new faces in the playoffs (although I doubt that will be the case till the end).

Hahaha Grin Tongue but kidding aside we all knew how capable SMB was, they are just warming up and they can always bounce back and
win a title.

Same as you bro, too early for that and with how those other teams are performing we can't say what will happened to this new season, what matters most is new major injuries and players and fans will enjoy the rest of the games.

SMB franchise or Pangilinan group of campanies Hahaaha Cool Roll Eyes

What if Magnolia would win the championship this conference, or the Meralco Bolts who is playing very well in the past 2 games, I guess it will surprise the fans as the fan favorites are the SMB and BGSM. IMO, as long as Fajardo will not be back to his old stats, SMB will not win a championship this conference.

We are still in the 1st week of the competition, it's too early to conclude, based on what I noticed in the past, good teams don't actually start well but they always end up well to qualify in the elimination game. SMB, BGSM, TNT, MAGNOLIA, and PHOENIX, I think one of these teams had good potential in winning the championship.
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July 21, 2021, 09:31:30 AM
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The next games will resume on Wednesday, July 21, 2021.

https://pba.ph/schedule

DYIP vs Alaska
Phoenix vs Northport

TNT vs Magnolia. .. This is the game that I like to watch and bet, it should be a close game as both teams are good.

Putting my bet on Magnolia again, hopefully, they are the underdog here.
I don't know if there is a last minute update in the schedule but in their website, the match for this day is going to be Alaska Vs. Magnolia.

Either way, if I will bet on this game I will go for the Magnolia but I don't want to underestimate Alaska because they too are strong and it looks like they like their rookie RK Ilagan on how he is playing last time where he got 8 points on 3/3 shooting in a short amount of time.

CJ Perez also has to step up his game, though it's different from his previous team I'm sure he can adjust.
I don't know if there is any recent update with the injury of Chris Ross but it seems like Romeo's injury isn't that serious therefore he might be coming back into the court within the next days to weeks.
With regards to Perez stepping up to his game, that will happen but with the team loaded with superstars it will be hard or it might be the other way around and now that Ross got injured they might put Perez as his substitute and that might be the time for him.

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July 21, 2021, 11:58:57 AM
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What if Magnolia would win the championship this conference, or the Meralco Bolts who is playing very well in the past 2 games, I guess it will surprise the fans as the fan favorites are the SMB and BGSM. IMO, as long as Fajardo will not be back to his old stats, SMB will not win a championship this conference.
It won't be a surprise if Magnolia or Bolts will win the championship. We're going to see that during the semis whoever stays and will go to the finals. Well, the crowd favorites would always be the two sister teams and that won't change as it's been in the tradition for so many years and it's hard to see that there will be a few fans for those teams. But the guarantee is that there will always be more fans that will always count the two teams or any of them to reach the finals and gets the trophy.

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What if Magnolia would win the championship this conference, or the Meralco Bolts who is playing very well in the past 2 games, I guess it will surprise the fans as the fan favorites are the SMB and BGSM. IMO, as long as Fajardo will not be back to his old stats, SMB will not win a championship this conference.
It won't be a surprise if Magnolia or Bolts will win the championship. We're going to see that during the semis whoever stays and will go to the finals. Well, the crowd favorites would always be the two sister teams and that won't change as it's been in the tradition for so many years and it's hard to see that there will be a few fans for those teams. But the guarantee is that there will always be more fans that will always count the two teams or any of them to reach the finals and gets the trophy.

No longer from the time where there are lots of competitions, I used to remember Cheering for Shell and Alaska, I love the tandem of Magsanoc and Paras, then the triangle of alaska way back with Jolas, Flying A and Hawkins.

Moving back, we can't assume who will win yet, it's still far from that,  but like what you just said whoever went up to the semis and stay winning will have the best shot to win the title.

We will see more actions and we will have that conclusion after the regular season ends up,.

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July 21, 2021, 01:24:26 PM
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So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

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July 21, 2021, 08:31:49 PM
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So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.
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July 21, 2021, 08:46:39 PM
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What happened to the Phoenix Fuel Super LPG?

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July 21, 2021, 09:03:26 PM
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So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.

I agree with that, but if you really know it's corrupt and you are still watching it, then you should put some bet and take advantage of it. The thing is, you would not love watching the game if you don't put a bet because it will not anymore excite you, so no sense in wasting your time.

Actually, it's not only PBA that is corrupt, even NBA, there are a lot of theories that fix games are happening, so PBA is not different.
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July 21, 2021, 09:26:04 PM
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So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.

I agree with that, but if you really know it's corrupt and you are still watching it, then you should put some bet and take advantage of it. The thing is, you would not love watching the game if you don't put a bet because it will not anymore excite you, so no sense in wasting your time.

Actually, it's not only PBA that is corrupt, even NBA, there are a lot of theories that fix games are happening, so PBA is not different.

This story of game-fixing is not new to us and to prove that indeed there are rigged games is very hard. IMO, I think that it's just a coincidence that everything turned out that way and the PBA has nothing to do with it. Who will benefit if they will intend to lose their game and with today's technology, it is easier to spot a rigged game than before, and being honest and fair is profitable nowadays so I give them the benefit of the doubt that it's only pure coincidence.
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July 21, 2021, 09:37:06 PM
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So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.

I agree with that, but if you really know it's corrupt and you are still watching it, then you should put some bet and take advantage of it. The thing is, you would not love watching the game if you don't put a bet because it will not anymore excite you, so no sense in wasting your time.

Actually, it's not only PBA that is corrupt, even NBA, there are a lot of theories that fix games are happening, so PBA is not different.

This story of game-fixing is not new to us and to prove that indeed there are rigged games is very hard. IMO, I think that it's just a coincidence that everything turned out that way and the PBA has nothing to do with it. Who will benefit if they will intend to lose their game and with today's technology, it is easier to spot a rigged game than before, and being honest and fair is profitable nowadays so I give them the benefit of the doubt that it's only pure coincidence.

We have different theories, and personally, I believe that PBA could be rigged, however, I still love to watch this game as PBA is still the most popular basketball in the league, so we have no choice. About how they benefit, we don't know, but we millions of money being wagered in a game, a million per game income for fixing the game could already make the team owner richer as that's easy money.

Back to the actual game now, the next schedule will be on Friday.

We got Ginebra vs Bossing and Beermen vs NLEX, both SMB teams had loss on their opening game.


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July 21, 2021, 09:56:42 PM
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What if Magnolia would win the championship this conference, or the Meralco Bolts who is playing very well in the past 2 games, I guess it will surprise the fans as the fan favorites are the SMB and BGSM. IMO, as long as Fajardo will not be back to his old stats, SMB will not win a championship this conference.
It won't be a surprise if Magnolia or Bolts will win the championship. We're going to see that during the semis whoever stays and will go to the finals. Well, the crowd favorites would always be the two sister teams and that won't change as it's been in the tradition for so many years and it's hard to see that there will be a few fans for those teams. But the guarantee is that there will always be more fans that will always count the two teams or any of them to reach the finals and gets the trophy.

No longer from the time where there are lots of competitions, I used to remember Cheering for Shell and Alaska, I love the tandem of Magsanoc and Paras, then the triangle of alaska way back with Jolas, Flying A and Hawkins.

Moving back, we can't assume who will win yet, it's still far from that,  but like what you just said whoever went up to the semis and stay winning will have the best shot to win the title.

We will see more actions and we will have that conclusion after the regular season ends up,.
Woah, Shell. I remember that when I was still a kid. Nostalgic when my father watches their game and I wanted to switch the channel and getting the remote from him.
As for the result, there's always the rival, the crowd's favorite, the dark horse, and other improving teams. Let's all just enjoy what has been given to us and this is the most awaited time that we've been discussing in here. We've got our own teams to cheer and by the way, Berto is back!

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July 21, 2021, 11:37:28 PM
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So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.
I thought I'm the only one who observed this rigged and fixed games but it seems like there are some who did too.

There are no evidences but as a watcher of PBA games for the past years, you can see the changes especially with the competitiveness of the league. No evidences so we can't say directly that the league is completely rigged and they are doing some game fixings. I agree though that as a bettor, you must maximize this but still its hard to predict which team will win. I can't say that the league is a real shame though because after all, it provides entertainment to us. Its just like the competitiveness of the league is slowly disappearing. I might bet for some games too for some fun while watching Cheesy.

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Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.

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July 22, 2021, 12:06:50 PM
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Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.

Both for me is a big issue, games should be fair and not rigged as they will lose fans if they'll consistently do it. When it comes to betting, it's very important to understand the real situation in the PBA, I mean if there is rigging happening, then we should be on the team that we think will win.

Still for me is hard to guess, unless we have an inside information.

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July 22, 2021, 01:49:59 PM
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Odds are now available.

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I like to bet on the SMB teams to win but the handicap is so high, are you guys think that they can cover the spread easily?
I know that they'll bounce back, but knowing the PBA, their opponent would likely cover.
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July 22, 2021, 03:12:05 PM
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Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.

So do I, that kind of twist with those unexpected rotations of trade, those so-called 3-way trades that's very annoying,

end outcome always favor big franchise resulting to a much deeper bench.

If you are old enough you can just simply say that it's part of the business, and this league is more on the business side and no longer about heavy competitions but more on money matters, players and teams are more concerns with paychecks and not with the entertainment where fans are aiming and spending their money.

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Rigged is not new in the league. But as a regular viewer, we can somehow judge a game if there is something sh*t happening between sister teams or different franchises. There are games especially in the playoffs that we can see a team is really competitive so salute to those clean games and it happened a lot more compare to a questionable one.

"Bigayan" really happened but I'm more concerned about questionable trades compare to those possible rigged games.
Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match but I guess it became now an open secret when there are games that are quite confusing and obvious with such results and performances. As for the trades, we're again going to see those powerful trades from teams to teams and players roster shift. There's a big money involve with the usual trades and that's why we see those heavily invested teams are making their roster stronger because they know that they'll get ROI with those players once they trade/buy them.

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