2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[agustina2]

Hey kabarangay's out there, too early to say that the Kings will not reached even the semifinals. Standing is just a standing. If they can make even at least on the last spot to enter the next round, that's all good and win loss record will be reset. The only advantage of standing is the post-elimination spot. Knowing Gin Kings, they are shown at their best when they are in a do-or-die situation so just relax.

Time Cone is making CStand ripe on his system that's why even the chemistry is still not there, he will just continue with his usual rotation until that chemistry now finally blends.

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[chaser15]

How about mini gambling guys if Blackwater will have a single win or not this conference.

Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.

I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record.

That's interesting, but if we can make a rule like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204905.0, then maybe we will see some bettors interested in putting their bet on Blackwater. Personally I don't think Meralco would have a single win this conference, but if the odds are attractive, then I might put a bet on that.

Only few games left in the eliminations so I think there's no time to make awareness out of it.

Just a straight friendly bet here, I will place $30 that Blackwater will set a record of no wins in this conference. I think I'm at disadvantage and officiating might involved on the next games of Blackwater as odds for that team is high (magic hokus pokus lol). Their moneyline odds is always attractive but risky to bet.


By accident due to some typos in Google search I made, I encounter this site:

https://pbarecap.ph/

Don't worry the site is safe. I don't know if it was managed related by PBA but the site is more clean and simple compare to the official website lol.

[blockman]

Hey kabarangay's out there, too early to say that the Kings will not reached even the semifinals. Standing is just a standing. If they can make even at least on the last spot to enter the next round, that's all good and win loss record will be reset. The only advantage of standing is the post-elimination spot. Knowing Gin Kings, they are shown at their best when they are in a do-or-die situation so just relax.

Time Cone is making CStand ripe on his system that's why even the chemistry is still not there, he will just continue with his usual rotation until that chemistry now finally blends.

I also have that mentality but with a bad standing, that makes everyone think of how they'll be ending with. But if there are still games remaining for them, they have to be the best of them for those matches because if they keep ending with a bad standing and more lose, then we all agree that it's going to be what will be their fate for this season. But we have our trust and have seen how Gin Kings always gets up and we just have to wait for their next matches if there's an improvement.

[Viscore]

Hey kabarangay's out there, too early to say that the Kings will not reached even the semifinals. Standing is just a standing. If they can make even at least on the last spot to enter the next round, that's all good and win loss record will be reset. The only advantage of standing is the post-elimination spot. Knowing Gin Kings, they are shown at their best when they are in a do-or-die situation so just relax.

Time Cone is making CStand ripe on his system that's why even the chemistry is still not there, he will just continue with his usual rotation until that chemistry now finally blends.

I also have that mentality but with a bad standing, that makes everyone think of how they'll be ending with. But if there are still games remaining for them, they have to be the best of them for those matches because if they keep ending with a bad standing and more lose, then we all agree that it's going to be what will be their fate for this season.

If they won't do good this conference, there's still the next conference that they might be successful. Tim Cone will be a legend in the PBA, and he will do everything to make Ginebra a championship again, let's just give other teams to improve so we will not see them in the Finals all the time.

But we have our trust and have seen how Gin Kings always gets up and we just have to wait for their next matches if there's an improvement.

Slowly but surely maybe.

[goinmerry]

There are still 4-5 games remaining for Ginebra to secure a spot in the next round after eliminations. I doubt they will end up not winning at those 5. Alaska seems not that ready and competitive enough to enter the quarterfinals.

The same goes for BlackWater that I also think will not have any winning record.

Low chance for Ginebra to be eliminated based on the current standings.

[Kelvinid]

There are still 4-5 games remaining for Ginebra to secure a spot in the next round after eliminations. I doubt they will end up not winning at those 5. Alaska seems not that ready and competitive enough to enter the quarterfinals.

The same goes for BlackWater that I also think will not have any winning record.

No worries for Ginebra fans out there. Low chance for them to be eliminated based on the current standings.

I agree with that, but since they are the champion last bubble, we are expecting them to play better this conference, but it's not what we are seeing, so as a fan, I am a bit worried that they might not be able to defend their title and they will be eliminated in the quarter-finals or the semis.

[blockman]

Hey kabarangay's out there, too early to say that the Kings will not reached even the semifinals. Standing is just a standing. If they can make even at least on the last spot to enter the next round, that's all good and win loss record will be reset. The only advantage of standing is the post-elimination spot. Knowing Gin Kings, they are shown at their best when they are in a do-or-die situation so just relax.

Time Cone is making CStand ripe on his system that's why even the chemistry is still not there, he will just continue with his usual rotation until that chemistry now finally blends.

I also have that mentality but with a bad standing, that makes everyone think of how they'll be ending with. But if there are still games remaining for them, they have to be the best of them for those matches because if they keep ending with a bad standing and more lose, then we all agree that it's going to be what will be their fate for this season.

If they won't do good this conference, there's still the next conference that they might be successful. Tim Cone will be a legend in the PBA, and he will do everything to make Ginebra a championship again, let's just give other teams to improve so we will not see them in the Finals all the time.

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

But we have our trust and have seen how Gin Kings always gets up and we just have to wait for their next matches if there's an improvement.

Slowly but surely maybe.

For the Gin Kings, we'll see and we only have to wait, watch and enjoy.

[Distinctin]

There are still 4-5 games remaining for Ginebra to secure a spot in the next round after eliminations. I doubt they will end up not winning at those 5. Alaska seems not that ready and competitive enough to enter the quarterfinals.

The same goes for BlackWater that I also think will not have any winning record.

No worries for Ginebra fans out there. Low chance for them to be eliminated based on the current standings.

I agree with that, but since they are the champion last bubble, we are expecting them to play better this conference, but it's not what we are seeing, so as a fan, I am a bit worried that they might not be able to defend their title and they will be eliminated in the quarter-finals or the semis.

We can't also say that they will not reach the PBA Finals because elimination games and best of 5 or 7 series are quite different compared to regular games. Coach Tim Cone is good on adjustments and he could still make this team the never say die team win against any team they will face.

The top performers now when the conference resume are the TNT, North Port and SMB, so let's see if they'll do the same during the playoffs.

[Shamm]

They are on the top but it's still early to assume that, it will be depend if who's team they'll going to meet if by chance they will move to the finals.

SMC Corp. Still the big nemesis by Pangilinan Group, whoever from SMB, BGSM and Magnolia are all competitive
and not easily can be beaten up.

Talking about winning the title, coach Chot is not new to that but the players that he's handling right now, that's still
questionable. Let us enjoy first this bubble and talk about it when we already see them in the finals.

  Yes you've got a point that it will depend on who will win both of the team and let's wait who got move for the final round and it would be the awaiting moment to see who will win.

  And all the team you've mentioned was very competitive and it's hard to judge both team cause they are both good in the game.

    Can't wait to see the final game and congratulate to those team who got win in the final round.

[Yamifoud]

There are still 4-5 games remaining for Ginebra to secure a spot in the next round after eliminations. I doubt they will end up not winning at those 5. Alaska seems not that ready and competitive enough to enter the quarterfinals.

The same goes for BlackWater that I also think will not have any winning record.

No worries for Ginebra fans out there. Low chance for them to be eliminated based on the current standings.

I agree with that, but since they are the champion last bubble, we are expecting them to play better this conference, but it's not what we are seeing, so as a fan, I am a bit worried that they might not be able to defend their title and they will be eliminated in the quarter-finals or the semis.

We can't also say that they will not reach the PBA Finals because elimination games and best of 5 or 7 series are quite different compared to regular games. Coach Tim Cone is good on adjustments and he could still make this team the never say die team win against any team they will face.

The top performers now when the conference resume are the TNT, North Port and SMB, so let's see if they'll do the same during the playoffs.

Ginebra fans will always be loyal, they have proven that they are a good team, and adding C. Stand should make them better, maybe their struggle will be over soon, and maybe as long as they win in the elimination, Coach Tim Cone will use another strategy to beat their opponent. I trust them, so I don't want to judge them now as they are still in the ranking and they still have a chance.

[bisdak40]

Ginebra fans will always be loyal, they have proven that they are a good team, and adding C. Stand should make them better, maybe their struggle will be over soon, and maybe as long as they win in the elimination, Coach Tim Cone will use another strategy to beat their opponent. I trust them, so I don't want to judge them now as they are still in the ranking and they still have a chance.

I admire the ability and brilliance of coach Tim Cone but the point is Ginebra won last year's all Filipino cup even without Greg Slaughter and people/PBA fans just expected that they will be stronger now that Christian Standhardinger has come to them.

IMO, it's not the coach who got the problem here, it is CStand because of the chemistry and him not fitting to the current system of Ginebra just like back then when he was not also fit to play alongside JMF.

You just can't limit the playing of this guy because he is vocal when it comes to that issue.

I think Cstand's style of play will fit on the Japan B-league.

[arwin100]

Ginebra fans will always be loyal, they have proven that they are a good team, and adding C. Stand should make them better, maybe their struggle will be over soon, and maybe as long as they win in the elimination, Coach Tim Cone will use another strategy to beat their opponent. I trust them, so I don't want to judge them now as they are still in the ranking and they still have a chance.

I admire the ability and brilliance of coach Tim Cone but the point is Ginebra won last year's all Filipino cup even without Greg Slaughter and people/PBA fans just expected that they will be stronger now that Christian Standhardinger has come to them.

IMO, it's not the coach who got the problem here, it is CStand because of the chemistry and him not fitting to the current system of Ginebra just like back then when he was not also fit to play alongside JMF.

You just can't limit the playing of this guy because he is vocal when it comes to that issue.

I think Cstand's style of play will fit on the Japan B-league.

Maybe he doesn't have confidence yet since he is in new environment so maybe coaching staff should work so that he can release his potential we know how good and hardworking Cstan is but he really need to get involve on their plays so that we can see a strong Ginebra team this season. But looks like this is tough job for them since they are almost at the bottom of standings so maybe they should find new strategy to see if which of their current piece will work together so that they will not get eliminated early.

[goinmerry]

IMO, it's not the coach who got the problem here, it is CStand because of the chemistry and him not fitting to the current system of Ginebra just like back then when he was not also fit to play alongside JMF.

You just can't limit the playing of this guy because he is vocal when it comes to that issue.

I think Cstand's style of play will fit on the Japan B-league.

If CStand is like that then better trade that player lol.

But overall, it's not just about CStand but their other players as well. It's impossible that all are affected just because of one added new player in the rotation. If their performance degrades just because of CStand then that's a big problem for Ginebra. It's really hard to form chemistry in a new team where games are always interrupted because of lockdowns or any related events due to pandemic.

[Hypnosis00]

IMO, it's not the coach who got the problem here, it is CStand because of the chemistry and him not fitting to the current system of Ginebra just like back then when he was not also fit to play alongside JMF.

You just can't limit the playing of this guy because he is vocal when it comes to that issue.

I think Cstand's style of play will fit on the Japan B-league.

If CStand is like that then better trade that player lol.

But overall, it's not just about CStand but their other players as well. It's impossible that all are affected just because of one added new player in the rotation. If their performance degrades just because of CStand then that's a big problem for Ginebra. It's really hard to form chemistry in a new team where games are always interrupted because of lockdowns or any related events due to pandemic.

The fans were so excited when he got drafted by the SMB, I still remember, he played in the FIBA that time and when he played with the SMB, he already produces good numbers in the first game. SMB already have a big man, so that's why he got traded, but after he got traded, that's the start of his struggle, he played with the NP, fans were not so impressed with his performance and it's understandable because the team is weak, but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

[chaser15]

but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

I also don't take the reason that Christian Standhardinger is new to the team, or lack of practice, because there are other players too on other teams that also new to their teammates but chemistry is not a problem. But I'm not disappointed.  It's time now for other teams to step up.

As I checked CStand's stats this conference, it's fair and good. Should we really blame him for the Ginebra's continous losses? Let's see where they will end up this conference before judging them. Still a long way before the eliminations ends.

[Finestream]

but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

I also don't take the reason that Christian Standhardinger is new to the team, or lack of practice, because there are other players too on other teams that also new to their teammates but chemistry is not a problem. But I'm not disappointed.  It's time now for other teams to step up.

As I checked CStand's stats this conference, it's fair and good. Should we really blame him for the Ginebra's continous losses? Let's see where they will end up this conference before judging them. Still a long way before the eliminations ends.

It's not Cstand's fault, Ginebra gave up Greg on a trade for CStand, so the management know that CStand is better and would fit on the team, the problem here is the coaching staff, they did not make an adjustment and they still continue with the system that is not working for everyone anymore like before.

[Viscore]

Hey kabarangay's out there, too early to say that the Kings will not reached even the semifinals. Standing is just a standing. If they can make even at least on the last spot to enter the next round, that's all good and win loss record will be reset. The only advantage of standing is the post-elimination spot. Knowing Gin Kings, they are shown at their best when they are in a do-or-die situation so just relax.

Time Cone is making CStand ripe on his system that's why even the chemistry is still not there, he will just continue with his usual rotation until that chemistry now finally blends.

I also have that mentality but with a bad standing, that makes everyone think of how they'll be ending with. But if there are still games remaining for them, they have to be the best of them for those matches because if they keep ending with a bad standing and more lose, then we all agree that it's going to be what will be their fate for this season.

If they won't do good this conference, there's still the next conference that they might be successful. Tim Cone will be a legend in the PBA, and he will do everything to make Ginebra a championship again, let's just give other teams to improve so we will not see them in the Finals all the time.

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

But we have our trust and have seen how Gin Kings always gets up and we just have to wait for their next matches if there's an improvement.

Slowly but surely maybe.

For the Gin Kings, we'll see and we only have to wait, watch and enjoy.

Agree, but I'm not enjoying if my team is struggling anyway. 

[Fredomago]

but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

I also don't take the reason that Christian Standhardinger is new to the team, or lack of practice, because there are other players too on other teams that also new to their teammates but chemistry is not a problem. But I'm not disappointed.  It's time now for other teams to step up.

As I checked CStand's stats this conference, it's fair and good. Should we really blame him for the Ginebra's continous losses? Let's see where they will end up this conference before judging them. Still a long way before the eliminations ends.

It's not Cstand's fault, Ginebra gave up Greg on a trade for CStand, so the management know that CStand is better and would fit on the team, the problem here is the coaching staff, they did not make an adjustment and they still continue with the system that is not working for everyone anymore like before.

It's the coaching staff that needs to adjust here. CStan is giving what Ginebra expects from him, like with the post above the stats still the same, he still the same type of player way back from both SMB and Northport.

The system needs to adjust the same way Northport maximizes Gregg after the trade. I still believe that coach Tim will work it out and if Ginebra will manage to move forward to the next round, they still a team to beat, whether a twice to beat advantage against whoever in the list.

Ginebra is Ginebra and knowing how coach Tim from all those achievements that he has. We will see what he's cooking behind this trade. Maybe a good surprise will happen. 

[mirakal]

How about mini gambling guys if Blackwater will have a single win or not this conference.

Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.

I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record.

That's interesting, but if we can make a rule like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204905.0, then maybe we will see some bettors interested in putting their bet on Blackwater. Personally I don't think Meralco would have a single win this conference, but if the odds are attractive, then I might put a bet on that.

Only few games left in the eliminations so I think there's no time to make awareness out of it.

Just a straight friendly bet here, I will place $30 that Blackwater will set a record of no wins in this conference. I think I'm at disadvantage and officiating might involved on the next games of Blackwater as odds for that team is high (magic hokus pokus lol). Their moneyline odds is always attractive but risky to bet.

I see your point but I think I'm gonna pass, Blackwater is not convincing that they like to win, maybe they'll make a record tha they will be "0" for the entire conference, so it's a waste of time and money betting on them. I believe in fixed game but not on this team. lol.

[blockman]

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

For the Gin Kings, we'll see and we only have to wait, watch and enjoy.

Agree, but I'm not enjoying if my team is struggling anyway. 

We can't do anything with that and that's really happening.