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September 13, 2021, 09:13:28 PM
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That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.
The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.
Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?

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September 13, 2021, 10:13:23 PM
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That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.
The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.
Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?
The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

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September 13, 2021, 11:04:13 PM
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That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.
The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.
Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?
The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

Until many believes that vaccine is a poison for them we will not get the herd immunity which is target by the government hopefully people will realize that vaccine is really safe as this technology is not new many vaccine is already created to battle against those past virus which create a pandemic so its really not good to listen those hoax spreading over the net so that we can experience to get back if not at normal state at minimal risk.

But I don't  think PBA will implement that no vaccine no entry for fans since it will cost a lot of money for them to ignore ticket buyers with no vaccine so maybe we can't see those things happening, the main key here is hopefully all will trust science,the experts,governments and the person who already experience the virus then recommend the vaccine so that we can see those upcoming games to roll out without problem or any other not related to this.

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September 13, 2021, 11:11:00 PM
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That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.
The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.
Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?

Really hard to make that decision, I mean not just the PBA but all other businesses in the Philippines are losing money if there will be a total lock down again.

And as the our cases continue to skyrocket every day, most likely PBA are in the dilemma again, hopefully safety protocols are going to be implemented, but the number of being infected are rising.

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And as the our cases continue to skyrocket every day, most likely PBA are in the dilemma again, hopefully safety protocols are going to be implemented, but the number of being infected are rising.

As long as not in Pampanga, PBA is safe from temporary break. Here in Manila, there's no chance for PBA to come back. They will finished the conference or probably the whole season in Pampanga.

I hope only few cases will record in that province so PBA will allow to operate freely without distractions.

According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

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September 14, 2021, 01:06:04 AM
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As long as not in Pampanga, PBA is safe from temporary break. Here in Manila, there's no chance for PBA to come back. They will finished the conference or probably the whole season in Pampanga.
Hopefully Pampangga or the venue won't have that much cases, PBA games are still secure just need to make a much strict
implementations of all those safety protocols,.

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I hope only few cases will record in that province so PBA will allow to operate freely without distractions.
Since the set up still a bubble type, without any infected person inside they are still safe. PBA needs to work more harder on this.

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According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

Pampanga’s active COVID-19 cases stay above 5,000-mark]

Oh well, lets all hope for the best, we already seen great actions and most of us are really enjoying the games.

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According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

Pampanga’s active COVID-19 cases stay above 5,000-mark]

Oh well, lets all hope for the best, we already seen great actions and most of us are really enjoying the games.

They have to go full bubble, this is scary, there's a big possibility that one of the players will get infected and they have announced before IIRC that if 5 players in different teams will get infected, they will cancel or stop the conference, I hope that would not happen and let's enjoy and finish this conference.

I don't know if there's still a next PBA conference but hopefully, they can still end the current conference successfully.

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According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

Pampanga’s active COVID-19 cases stay above 5,000-mark]

Oh well, lets all hope for the best, we already seen great actions and most of us are really enjoying the games.

They have to go full bubble, this is scary, there's a big possibility that one of the players will get infected and they have announced before IIRC that if 5 players in different teams will get infected, they will cancel or stop the conference, I hope that would not happen and let's enjoy and finish this conference.

I don't know if there's still a next PBA conference but hopefully, they can still end the current conference successfully.

Let's be positive friends, let's hope that PBA will not be interrupted as it was already interrupted once and I don't know if PBA will be able to resume again once it stops due to covid-19 case problems. Our country has a big problem on covid-19, the cases keep increasing and if we get affected by this, then probably we have to stop for a while as well, the economy will struggle and people will be hungry.
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The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

Until many believes that vaccine is a poison for them we will not get the herd immunity which is target by the government hopefully people will realize that vaccine is really safe as this technology is not new many vaccine is already created to battle against those past virus which create a pandemic so its really not good to listen those hoax spreading over the net so that we can experience to get back if not at normal state at minimal risk.

But I don't  think PBA will implement that no vaccine no entry for fans since it will cost a lot of money for them to ignore ticket buyers with no vaccine so maybe we can't see those things happening, the main key here is hopefully all will trust science,the experts,governments and the person who already experience the virus then recommend the vaccine so that we can see those upcoming games to roll out without problem or any other not related to this.
Those that are believing about that with the vaccine, they're the ones that won't move on because they'll not be able to go everywhere. But it seems that there's no really strict rule about vaccinated and non-vaccinated folks as long as they're inside the region.
And for the PBA, we will never know if they won't implement that rule since it's being talked about establishments that they should only allowed vaccinated people. Although, there's some human rights lawyer that it violates a person's right.

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September 14, 2021, 01:05:29 PM
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Let's be positive friends, let's hope that PBA will not be interrupted as it was already interrupted once and I don't know if PBA will be able to resume again once it stops due to covid-19 case problems.
Indeed! if this season announce another interruptions  due to any covid related cases,

We might not see any possibilities of resumptions in the near future, the new variant is more stronger than the first
virus that we have, the spread is more wider and quicker, so just one case from anyone inside the bubble can trigger
a widespread transfer.

Players and all the staff needs to be extra careful not to interact to anyone and make sure to follow all the safety protocols.

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Our country has a big problem on covid-19, the cases keep increasing and if we get affected by this, then probably we have to stop for a while as well, the economy will struggle and people will be hungry.

The case keeps on increasing as we don't know and we can't see where the virus are and how the virus being transferred.

The only thing that we can do now is keep complying with what the government is asking us in terms
of safety protocols then add more extra precautions and added vitamins to enhance our immune system.
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September 14, 2021, 01:44:25 PM
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Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view  Grin.

TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.
 
My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.
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September 14, 2021, 05:09:46 PM
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Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view  Grin.

TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.
 
My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.


Good to see that the game already resume back, hopefully there's no bad news that may cause any interruptions and all the game will paly smoothly.

You've got another interesting pick, the odds right now is more smaller after checking it inside Stake TNT now is only @ 1.35 while Ginebra is only @ 1.49. seems that the adjustments for TNT indicates the possibilities that Greg might not play, is there any updated news about it?

Good luck! And thanks for sharing, I may ride tomorrow during live games.


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September 14, 2021, 08:53:45 PM
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Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view  Grin.

TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.
 
My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.


Good to see that the game already resume back, hopefully there's no bad news that may cause any interruptions and all the game will paly smoothly.

You've got another interesting pick, the odds right now is more smaller after checking it inside Stake TNT now is only @ 1.35 while Ginebra is only @ 1.49. seems that the adjustments for TNT indicates the possibilities that Greg might not play, is there any updated news about it?

Good luck! And thanks for sharing, I may ride tomorrow during live games.



Good parlay if you bet on the Ginebra and TNT to win, that would be "2.0115"... Great odds. However, bisdak40 has a point for not picking Ginebra because his team is still currently struggling, so the logic here is, we ride on their success while we can also ride on their struggle. Good luck!

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September 14, 2021, 10:20:25 PM
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The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

Until many believes that vaccine is a poison for them we will not get the herd immunity which is target by the government hopefully people will realize that vaccine is really safe as this technology is not new many vaccine is already created to battle against those past virus which create a pandemic so its really not good to listen those hoax spreading over the net so that we can experience to get back if not at normal state at minimal risk.

But I don't  think PBA will implement that no vaccine no entry for fans since it will cost a lot of money for them to ignore ticket buyers with no vaccine so maybe we can't see those things happening, the main key here is hopefully all will trust science,the experts,governments and the person who already experience the virus then recommend the vaccine so that we can see those upcoming games to roll out without problem or any other not related to this.
Those that are believing about that with the vaccine, they're the ones that won't move on because they'll not be able to go everywhere. But it seems that there's no really strict rule about vaccinated and non-vaccinated folks as long as they're inside the region.
And for the PBA, we will never know if they won't implement that rule since it's being talked about establishments that they should only allowed vaccinated people. Although, there's some human rights lawyer that it violates a person's right.

No strict rule implemented to those non vaccinated individuals its because some organizations condone the government if they want to put some sanction or violation of human rights if they force people to get vaccinated that's why many still doubting about getting their jabs especially fake news are everywhere so for sure we will get a hard time to get the target and we cannot easily get back to normal since many still in denial about good benefits of getting vaccinated.

Also hopefully PBA could implement that No vaccine no entry policy so that other fans will think about get their vaccine just to watch their favorite teams live although this is small reason but somehow it can contribute to the decision of the people about get a vaccine.

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September 15, 2021, 12:33:55 PM
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Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view  Grin.

TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.
 
My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.


Good to see that the game already resume back, hopefully there's no bad news that may cause any interruptions and all the game will paly smoothly.

You've got another interesting pick, the odds right now is more smaller after checking it inside Stake TNT now is only @ 1.35 while Ginebra is only @ 1.49. seems that the adjustments for TNT indicates the possibilities that Greg might not play, is there any updated news about it?

Good luck! And thanks for sharing, I may ride tomorrow during live games.



Good parlay if you bet on the Ginebra and TNT to win, that would be "2.0115"... Great odds. However, bisdak40 has a point for not picking Ginebra because his team is still currently struggling, so the logic here is, we ride on their success while we can also ride on their struggle. Good luck!

Bad idea if he did a parlay because Phoenix loss the game, they have a good start with 33-16 score, but they allow the Ginebra to rally in the 2nd half and they made a good 4th quarter as well. In the other game, TNT won by 10 points, and Mikey Williams again with 29 points lead the team, TNT also lucky Greg Slaughter did not play.

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September 15, 2021, 06:46:49 PM
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Good parlay if you bet on the Ginebra and TNT to win, that would be "2.0115"... Great odds. However, bisdak40 has a point for not picking Ginebra because his team is still currently struggling, so the logic here is, we ride on their success while we can also ride on their struggle. Good luck!

The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time  Grin bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22  1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

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September 15, 2021, 09:08:56 PM
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The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time  Grin bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22  1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.

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September 15, 2021, 09:36:15 PM
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The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time  Grin bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22  1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.



Blackwater seems to be a team that has no chance of winning but that -12.5 is quite scary to take for me. Well, anyway good luck to you mate, you are brave enough to back on NLEX with that high spread, I think if Blackwater would lose, it would not be that high as they are desperate to win.

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September 15, 2021, 09:41:45 PM
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The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time  Grin bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22  1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.



Blackwater seems to be a team that has no chance of winning but that -12.5 is quite scary to take for me. Well, anyway good luck to you mate, you are brave enough to back on NLEX with that high spread, I think if Blackwater would lose, it would not be that high as they are desperate to win.

Yeah, that is also what I'm thinking but looking back on their previous games they lost almost on a two digit lead and i have lost betting on them also when the spread was +10 plus.

Anyway, it's just me and it's gambling, you may win or lose but the important thing is we enjoy what we are doing and we know what we are doing also.
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September 15, 2021, 09:44:42 PM
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The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time  Grin bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22  1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.



Blackwater seems to be a team that has no chance of winning but that -12.5 is quite scary to take for me. Well, anyway good luck to you mate, you are brave enough to back on NLEX with that high spread, I think if Blackwater would lose, it would not be that high as they are desperate to win.

Yeah, that is also what I'm thinking but looking back on their previous games they lost almost on a two digit lead and i have lost betting on them also when the spread was +10 plus.

Anyway, it's just me and it's gambling, you may win or lose but the important thing is we enjoy what we are doing and we know what we are doing also.

I agree with you @bisdak40, this is gambling and we don't know the outcome of the game, we have to follow our own instinct, and IMO, since Blackwater has been losing in the previous games with a wide margin, I don't expect them to win against a good team like NLEX, or even cover the spread.

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